• Palestinians abused, forced to chant anti-Hamas slogans in ‘safe corrid

    From NefeshBarYochai@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 9 20:49:04 2024
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    By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
    February 6, 2024

    For several weeks, the city of Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip
    has witnessed intense Israeli bombardment by ground and air, as well
    as fierce clashes between Israeli forces and Hamas fighters. Israeli
    Defense Minister Yoav Gallant announced last week that the army had successfully dismantled Hamas’ capabilities in the city — a claim
    Israel made earlier about Gaza City in the north, only to be proven
    wrong. But in Khan Younis, as in the rest of Gaza, it is we civilians
    who are bearing the brunt of the violence.

    Israeli tanks have besieged two of the most important hospitals still
    partially functioning in southern Gaza: Nasser and Al-Amal. Both are
    located in the western part of Khan Younis, and have been overwhelmed
    since the war began not only with the influx of patients but also with
    families seeking shelter after having been displaced from the northern
    parts of the Strip. Israeli forces opened fire at the more than 8,000
    displaced people sheltering in the vicinity of Nasser Hospital, and
    bulldozed graves in the adjacent cemetery — one of at least 16
    cemeteries that Israel has desecrated during its operation in Gaza.

    Israeli tanks also penetrated the vicinity of Al-Aqsa University at
    the western edge of the city, near the previously designated “safe
    zone” of Al-Mawasi; targeted the UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA)
    Training Center, one of the largest shelters in all of Gaza which had
    been accommodating up to 40,000 displaced people; and completely
    surrounded the western part of Khan Younis refugee camp.

    The Israeli army dropped leaflets ordering residents to evacuate Khan
    Younis, and in recent days some 120,000 Palestinians have fled the
    city through a supposedly “safe corridor” spanning from the west of
    the refugee camp to the area of Al-Mawasi near Al-Aqsa University. The
    passage through this corridor, however, which is made up of three
    Israeli military checkpoints, has for many Palestinians been one of
    the most harrowing ordeals since the war began.

    According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey,
    including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were
    forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings
    confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while,
    thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their
    shelters out of fear of being shot on the streets.

    <continue reading>

    https://www.972mag.com/khan-younis-safe-corridor-abuse/

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to void@invalid.noy on Sat Feb 10 07:04:30 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>:

    By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
    February 6, 2024
    According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey, >including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were
    forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings
    confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and >subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while, >thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their
    shelters out of fear of being shot on the streets.

    <continue reading>

    https://www.972mag.com/khan-younis-safe-corridor-abuse/

    Israel with theie fanatic war criminal leader really makes me wonder
    if Hitler had a point and if the Egyptian Faraos that kicked them out
    had a point.
    This behavior is unacceptable and US support for their war crimes make
    the US complicit.
    If US REALLY had a heart and guts it would eliminate the israely 'government' take control and create a 2 state solution
    I see no difference between that jewish fanatic group and any other fanatic group.
    May the best one win.
    Darwin Evolution
    WW3
    Half senile demonrat biden as puppet of the US military complex creating wars and unrest all over the world
    using the CIA to be able to sell weapons and burn their own people
    financed by the poor US taxpayers.
    He then claims more jobs created!!!
    What a shame, what a rotten system, so much out of control.
    Wars have a purpose.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 10 09:46:46 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai ><void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>:

    By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
    February 6, 2024
    According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey, >>including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were >>forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings >>confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and >>subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while, >>thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their
    shelters out of fear of being shot on the streets.

    <continue reading>

    https://www.972mag.com/khan-younis-safe-corridor-abuse/

    Israel with theie fanatic war criminal leader really makes me wonder
    if Hitler had a point and if the Egyptian Faraos that kicked them out
    had a point.
    This behavior is unacceptable and US support for their war crimes make
    the US complicit.
    If US REALLY had a heart and guts it would eliminate the israely 'government' >take control and create a 2 state solution
    I see no difference between that jewish fanatic group and any other fanatic group.
    May the best one win.
    Darwin Evolution
    WW3
    Half senile demonrat biden as puppet of the US military complex creating wars and unrest all over the world
    using the CIA to be able to sell weapons and burn their own people
    financed by the poor US taxpayers.
    He then claims more jobs created!!!
    What a shame, what a rotten system, so much out of control.
    Wars have a purpose.



    That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign entanglements and realized that war is usually avoidable and a
    terrible burden on taxpayers when entered into too freely. He'd have
    thrown Ukraine under the bus where it belongs and concentrated solely
    on America's *legitimate* interests. Funny how the true peacemakers
    are always vilified, though.

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 10 05:51:16 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai ><void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>:

    By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
    February 6, 2024
    According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey, >>including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were >>forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings >>confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and >>subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while, >>thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their
    shelters out of fear of being shot on the streets.

    <continue reading>

    https://www.972mag.com/khan-younis-safe-corridor-abuse/

    Israel with theie fanatic war criminal leader really makes me wonder
    if Hitler had a point and if the Egyptian Faraos that kicked them out
    had a point.

    What an astounding statement. If you had been around in WWII, you
    would have turned in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
    camps.

    What was Hitler's point? That Jews tended to be smarter than him? Is
    that your complaint?

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 10 06:01:11 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 09:46:46 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai >><void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>:

    By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
    February 6, 2024
    According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey, >>>including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were >>>forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings >>>confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and >>>subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while, >>>thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their >>>shelters out of fear of being shot on the streets.

    <continue reading>

    https://www.972mag.com/khan-younis-safe-corridor-abuse/

    Israel with theie fanatic war criminal leader really makes me wonder
    if Hitler had a point and if the Egyptian Faraos that kicked them out
    had a point.
    This behavior is unacceptable and US support for their war crimes make
    the US complicit.
    If US REALLY had a heart and guts it would eliminate the israely 'government' >>take control and create a 2 state solution
    I see no difference between that jewish fanatic group and any other fanatic group.
    May the best one win.
    Darwin Evolution
    WW3
    Half senile demonrat biden as puppet of the US military complex creating wars and unrest all over the world
    using the CIA to be able to sell weapons and burn their own people
    financed by the poor US taxpayers.
    He then claims more jobs created!!!
    What a shame, what a rotten system, so much out of control.
    Wars have a purpose.



    That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign >entanglements and realized that war is usually avoidable and a
    terrible burden on taxpayers when entered into too freely. He'd have
    thrown Ukraine under the bus where it belongs and concentrated solely
    on America's *legitimate* interests. Funny how the true peacemakers
    are always vilified, though.

    DT gets along with Jews just fine, as any rational person does.

    The world slowly advances towards civility and science and wealth and
    peace. Our progress started with the 10 Commandments, Jesus'
    teachings, Martin Luther, The Enlightment, British common law, and the
    US Constitution as amended.

    Some day people will stop killing one another in volume.

    Some Muslim said the Christianity is the religon of life, and Islam is
    the religion of death.

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Feb 11 01:17:56 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On 10/02/2024 8:46 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invali wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>:

    <snip>

    That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign entanglements and realized that war is usually avoidable and a
    terrible burden on taxpayers when entered into too freely.

    Not as a matter of principle - Trump is totally unprincipled - but
    because his approach was to keep his life maximally simple.

    He'd have thrown Ukraine under the bus where it belongs and concentrated solely
    on America's *legitimate* interests. Funny how the true peacemakers are always
    vilified, though.

    As if Trump was a "true peacemaker".

    Throwing the Ukraine under the bus would encourage Putin to attempt even
    more land grabs. That approach didn't work too well when Chamberlain
    tried it 1938. You weren't around then, but better educated people have
    heard about it.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 10 14:29:35 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:51:16 -0800, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai >><void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>:

    By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
    February 6, 2024
    According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey, >>>including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were >>>forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings >>>confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and >>>subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while, >>>thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their >>>shelters out of fear of being shot on the streets.

    <continue reading>

    https://www.972mag.com/khan-younis-safe-corridor-abuse/

    Israel with theie fanatic war criminal leader really makes me wonder
    if Hitler had a point and if the Egyptian Faraos that kicked them out
    had a point.

    What an astounding statement. If you had been around in WWII, you
    would have turned in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
    camps.

    That's exactly what George Soros did - and he was (and remains) Jewish
    himself!

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Sun Feb 11 01:35:10 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On 11/02/2024 1:01 am, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 09:46:46 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid wrote >>> On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai >>> <void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>:

    <snip>


    DT gets along with Jews just fine, as any rational person does.

    Donald Trump isn't any kind of rational person.If he were he'd have
    realised that he lost the 2020 presidential election, and that there was
    very little voter fraud (no more than usual) and nowhere near enough to
    suggest that it lost him the election

    The world slowly advances towards civility and science and wealth and
    peace. Our progress started with the 10 Commandments, Jesus'
    teachings, Martin Luther, The Enlightment, British common law, and the
    US Constitution as amended.

    There are more progressive constitutional documents than the US
    constitution, as currently amended and the places that rely on them have
    things like universal health care, which hasn't made to the US yet.

    Some day people will stop killing one another in volume.

    Perhaps. As long as there are creeps like Putin around, it's going to
    keep on happening. Better gun control in the US would save a few lives.

    Some Muslim said the Christianity is the religon of life, and Islam is
    the religion of death.

    But you can't name the Muslim, and you are probably misrepresenting what
    was being said.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jl@997PotHill.com on Sat Feb 10 15:35:31 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On a sunny day (Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:51:16 -0800) it happened John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <cgvesip0mirru5geje6ukhn3jq7fre4v1l@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai >><void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>:

    By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
    February 6, 2024
    According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey, >>>including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were >>>forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings >>>confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and >>>subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while, >>>thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their >>>shelters out of fear of being shot on the streets.

    <continue reading>

    https://www.972mag.com/khan-younis-safe-corridor-abuse/

    Israel with theie fanatic war criminal leader really makes me wonder
    if Hitler had a point and if the Egyptian Faraos that kicked them out
    had a point.

    What an astounding statement. If you had been around in WWII, you
    would have turned in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
    camps.

    My father was a journalist not jewish ,, the Germans put him in a camp because he wrote
    against the Germans, he was in the resistance too here.
    He was freed by the Russians.
    He was actually a real commie, fought with the left against franco in Spain too,
    wrote for a left oriented newspaper.
    My experience with jews is very negative.
    Like I said, just an other bunch of fanatics.


    What was Hitler's point? That Jews tended to be smarter than him? Is
    that your complaint?
    google
    https://www.ushmm.org/teach/fundamentals/holocaust-questions

    Smarter?
    Looks like they cannot even run their own country.
    Just a bunch of fanatics, now attacking and doing genocide on the Palestinians who reacted to their nutcase leader's provoking grab of more of their land on Oct 7 I think it was
    Palestine has been cut of from the world for a long time via sea and land barriers.

    You still support that biden war monger for mony?

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jl@997PotHill.com on Sat Feb 10 15:44:07 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On a sunny day (Sat, 10 Feb 2024 06:01:11 -0800) it happened John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote in <1svesit4kiqce9f5e0vfr2u1cta3gl5scl@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 09:46:46 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai >>><void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>: >>>
    By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
    February 6, 2024
    According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey, >>>>including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were >>>>forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings >>>>confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and >>>>subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while, >>>>thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their >>>>shelters out of fear of being shot on the streets.

    <continue reading>

    https://www.972mag.com/khan-younis-safe-corridor-abuse/

    Israel with theie fanatic war criminal leader really makes me wonder
    if Hitler had a point and if the Egyptian Faraos that kicked them out
    had a point.
    This behavior is unacceptable and US support for their war crimes make >>>the US complicit.
    If US REALLY had a heart and guts it would eliminate the israely 'government'
    take control and create a 2 state solution
    I see no difference between that jewish fanatic group and any other fanatic group.
    May the best one win.
    Darwin Evolution
    WW3
    Half senile demonrat biden as puppet of the US military complex creating wars and unrest all over the world
    using the CIA to be able to sell weapons and burn their own people >>>financed by the poor US taxpayers.
    He then claims more jobs created!!!
    What a shame, what a rotten system, so much out of control.
    Wars have a purpose.



    That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign >>entanglements and realized that war is usually avoidable and a
    terrible burden on taxpayers when entered into too freely. He'd have
    thrown Ukraine under the bus where it belongs and concentrated solely
    on America's *legitimate* interests. Funny how the true peacemakers
    are always vilified, though.

    DT gets along with Jews just fine, as any rational person does.

    The world slowly advances towards civility and science and wealth and
    peace. Our progress started with the 10 Commandments, Jesus'
    teachings, Martin Luther, The Enlightment, British common law, and the
    US Constitution as amended.

    Some day people will stop killing one another in volume.

    Some Muslim said the Christianity is the religon of life, and Islam is
    the religion of death.

    Your US country is prcticing the religion of death, killing everywhere at home and globally
    Just to create jobs
    Make a decent product for a cheap price if you want to help humanity, like China does.
    Ever since the moonlandings US IQ has gone down, if a professor measures that he gets fired. what a crap science.
    Homelessnes, poverty, gun violence, drug death, racism, crime. US is WAY over the hill.
    Add some glow-ball worming and its all over.
    Yu wars for no reasonm otehr than suck your own people for taxes
    Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, so many.
    What a sad bunch of (fire) ants you are!!!!!




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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Feb 11 03:08:52 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On 11/02/2024 1:29 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:51:16 -0800, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote: >>> On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai >>> <void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>:

    What an astounding statement. If you had been around in WWII, you
    would have you would have turned in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
    camps.

    That's exactly what George Soros did - and he was (and remains) Jewish himself!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

    That's a lie. George Soros was born on the August 12, 1930 so he was
    just 14 when the war in Europe ended.

    Soros was 13 years old in March 1944 when Nazi Germany occupied Hungary.
    Later that year at age 14, Soros posed as the Christian godson of an
    official of the collaborationist Hungarian government's Ministry of Agriculture, who himself had a Jewish wife in hiding. On one occasion,
    rather than leave the 14-year-old alone, the official took Soros with
    him while completing an inventory of a Jewish family's confiscated estate.

    This isn't "turning in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
    camps." It's getting dragged along on an unpleasant errand.

    As revolting libels go, this is hard to beat. I hope it bankrupts you.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 10 19:44:59 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 03:08:52 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 11/02/2024 1:29 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:51:16 -0800, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote: >>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai >>>> <void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>:

    What an astounding statement. If you had been around in WWII, you
    would have you would have turned in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
    camps.

    That's exactly what George Soros did - and he was (and remains) Jewish
    himself!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

    That's a lie. George Soros was born on the August 12, 1930 so he was
    just 14 when the war in Europe ended.

    Soros was 13 years old in March 1944 when Nazi Germany occupied Hungary. >Later that year at age 14, Soros posed as the Christian godson of an
    official of the collaborationist Hungarian government's Ministry of >Agriculture, who himself had a Jewish wife in hiding. On one occasion,
    rather than leave the 14-year-old alone, the official took Soros with
    him while completing an inventory of a Jewish family's confiscated estate.

    This isn't "turning in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death >camps." It's getting dragged along on an unpleasant errand.

    As revolting libels go, this is hard to beat. I hope it bankrupts you.

    Libel, eh? A rather unwise accusation. Very well, you are clearly
    blind to the Truth, but others here may find this admission from the
    Great Soros rather revealing:

    https://banned.video/watch?id=64650419bd0cc4cd68f6e938

    I'm happy to disabuse you of your ignorance once again, Bill.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Sat Feb 10 23:24:38 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On 2/10/2024 8:51 AM, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai
    <void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>:

    By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
    February 6, 2024
    According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey,
    including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were
    forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings
    confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and
    subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while,
    thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their
    shelters out of fear of being shot on the streets.

    <continue reading>

    https://www.972mag.com/khan-younis-safe-corridor-abuse/

    Israel with theie fanatic war criminal leader really makes me wonder
    if Hitler had a point and if the Egyptian Faraos that kicked them out
    had a point.

    What an astounding statement. If you had been around in WWII, you
    would have turned in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
    camps.

    What was Hitler's point? That Jews tended to be smarter than him? Is
    that your complaint?




    The Jewish population in Germany prior to WWII was in large part very "well-assimilated" to the European Gentile culture of Germany. Aside
    from attending synagogue instead of church they dressed like Germans,
    spoke German, worked and lived with native Germans, drank German beer
    and ate German food, etc.

    An outsider to both German and Jewish cultures might say that most
    German Jews seemed 90% German. Unfortunately that 90% did them no great
    favors under Nazi rule, there is likely an "uncanny valley" effect in
    bigotry that can sometimes counterintuitively intensify it under
    conditions of "very similar to us, but not one of us"

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncanny_valley>

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 11 10:09:15 2024
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid>
    wrote:> >On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai
    <vo...@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785i...@4ax.com>:

    By Ruwaida Kamal Amer and Ibtisam Mahdi
    February 6, 2024
    According to testimonies from Palestinians who have made the journey,
    including one of the authors, those passing through the corridor were
    forced to chant slogans against Hamas; many had their belongings
    confiscated; and men were separated from their families, stripped, and
    subjected to hours of physical abuse and deprivation. All the while,
    thousands remain trapped inside Khan Younis, unable to leave their

    Wars have a purpose.

    That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
    entanglements...

    How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
    situation, though? He further complicated the situation
    by declaring a terrorist organization and then
    declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).

    That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
    It's also undiplomatic.

    What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,
    NATO, WHO, NAFTA, etc.) that were win-win beneficial, he apparently only wanted to win if someone else lost.
    Ditching those isn't quite a declaration of war, but it was certainly a tangled mess.

    Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Feb 11 21:28:44 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On 11/02/2024 6:44 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 03:08:52 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 11/02/2024 1:29 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:51:16 -0800, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote: >>>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai >>>>> <void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>: >>
    What an astounding statement. If you had been around in WWII, you
    would have you would have turned in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
    camps.

    That's exactly what George Soros did - and he was (and remains) Jewish
    himself!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

    That's a lie. George Soros was born on the August 12, 1930 so he was
    just 14 when the war in Europe ended.

    Soros was 13 years old in March 1944 when Nazi Germany occupied Hungary.
    Later that year at age 14, Soros posed as the Christian godson of an
    official of the collaborationist Hungarian government's Ministry of
    Agriculture, who himself had a Jewish wife in hiding. On one occasion,
    rather than leave the 14-year-old alone, the official took Soros with
    him while completing an inventory of a Jewish family's confiscated estate. >>
    This isn't "turning in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
    camps." It's getting dragged along on an unpleasant errand.

    As revolting libels go, this is hard to beat. I hope it bankrupts you.

    Libel, eh? A rather unwise accusation. Very well, you are clearly
    blind to the Truth, but others here may find this admission from the
    Great Soros rather revealing:

    https://banned.video/watch?id=64650419bd0cc4cd68f6e938

    You do have a strange idea of what constitutes "evidence". The fact that
    you can misunderstand the facts to means what you'd like then to mean
    doesn't mean that you are telling the truth - it just means that you
    can't think straight.

    I'm happy to disabuse you of your ignorance once again, Bill.

    The ignorance is all yours, coupled with some remarkably psychopathic misconceptions.

    You need psychiatric care, probably of the kind that involves locking
    you in a padded cell and throwing away the key.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Feb 11 21:36:29 2024
    On 11/02/2024 9:09 pm, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid>
    wrote:> >On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai <vo...@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785i...@4ax.com>:

    <snip>

    That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
    entanglements...

    How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
    situation, though? He further complicated the situation
    by declaring a terrorist organization and then
    declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).

    That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
    It's also undiplomatic.

    What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,
    NATO, WHO, NAFTA, etc.) that were win-win beneficial, he apparently only wanted to win if someone else lost.
    Ditching those isn't quite a declaration of war, but it was certainly a tangled mess.

    Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?

    Nobody sane likes Trump. He lies just as much as you do. His lies are marginally more plausible - plausible enough to fool quite a few people,
    which makes him more dangerous than you are, but no less unsavoury.


    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 11 18:11:00 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 21:28:44 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 11/02/2024 6:44 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 03:08:52 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 11/02/2024 1:29 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:51:16 -0800, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com> wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 07:04:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 09 Feb 24 20:49:04 UTC) it happened NefeshBarYochai >>>>>> <void@invalid.noy> wrote in <253dsit7fhd0g785igdlk4dh6mq4hs85in@4ax.com>:

    What an astounding statement. If you had been around in WWII, you
    would have you would have turned in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
    camps.

    That's exactly what George Soros did - and he was (and remains) Jewish >>>> himself!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Soros

    That's a lie. George Soros was born on the August 12, 1930 so he was
    just 14 when the war in Europe ended.

    Soros was 13 years old in March 1944 when Nazi Germany occupied Hungary. >>> Later that year at age 14, Soros posed as the Christian godson of an
    official of the collaborationist Hungarian government's Ministry of
    Agriculture, who himself had a Jewish wife in hiding. On one occasion,
    rather than leave the 14-year-old alone, the official took Soros with
    him while completing an inventory of a Jewish family's confiscated estate. >>>
    This isn't "turning in your Jewish neighbors, to send them to the death
    camps." It's getting dragged along on an unpleasant errand.

    As revolting libels go, this is hard to beat. I hope it bankrupts you.

    Libel, eh? A rather unwise accusation. Very well, you are clearly
    blind to the Truth, but others here may find this admission from the
    Great Soros rather revealing:

    https://banned.video/watch?id=64650419bd0cc4cd68f6e938

    You do have a strange idea of what constitutes "evidence". The fact that
    you can misunderstand the facts to means what you'd like then to mean
    doesn't mean that you are telling the truth - it just means that you
    can't think straight.

    Then by all means give us the benefit of your enviable sagacity and
    tell me where I went wrong, then. Which particular fact did I
    misunderstand, Bill?

    I'm happy to disabuse you of your ignorance once again, Bill.

    The ignorance is all yours, coupled with some remarkably psychopathic >misconceptions.

    The psychopathy is all yours, dear boy.

    You need psychiatric care, probably of the kind that involves locking
    you in a padded cell and throwing away the key.

    I have a hunch that a poll of s.e.d readers would take the opportunity
    to do that to you rather than me, if the chance arose. You are by far
    the most conspicuous and irritating troll on these newsgroups and have
    been for many years now.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Feb 11 18:36:03 2024
    XPost: talk.politics.misc, us.politics

    On 2/10/2024 4:46 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign entanglements and realized that war is usually avoidable and a
    terrible burden on taxpayers when entered into too freely. He'd have
    thrown Ukraine under the bus where it belongs and concentrated solely
    on America's *legitimate* interests. Funny how the true peacemakers
    are always vilified, though.

    That Trump seemed to realize it just means there's a low bar to entry on
    that particular realization about war; it hardly takes a philosophical
    genius to notice that it's the wealthy and privileged who almost always
    reap the highest rewards, and the young, innocent and/or who poor pay
    the highest costs.

    Trump is certainly wealthy and privileged but is somewhat unusual among
    the wealthy and privileged in that he has not much to gain from the kind
    of foreign entanglements the US is currently sinking deeper into.

    But other varieties of wealthy and privileged have definitely been of
    the opinion for some time that some people are fit to rule, and others
    are fit only to be ruled.

    Hamas was foolish to give the Israeli government a "golden opportunity"
    to push their own ideas about who should rule/be ruled to the maximum
    extent. But it's likely that in time Israel will be shown to be foolish
    to have taken them up on the offer. And it may not be long at all before
    the Biden administration is shown to have been foolish to throw its
    support behind the slaughter.

    "And Britannia's huns, with their long range guns, sailed in through the
    foggy dew."

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 11 23:54:58 2024
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 12:40:11 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 2:09:21?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign
    entanglements...

    How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
    situation, though? He further complicated the situation
    by declaring a terrorist organization and then
    declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).

    That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
    It's also undiplomatic.

    What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,

    Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?

    If by 'like him' meaning that I'd vote for him to lead US foreign relations for a few years,
    then no, I don't. That was pretty clear in my mind when he fired our Ukraine ambassador
    citing... no reason whatever, and got his first impeachment. Why, what did >you think on that issue?

    The impeachment was clearly politically-motivated and therefore
    baseless and worthy of only contempt. As for sacking the Ukrainian
    ambassador, whether Trump gave a reason or not, I'm sure he had a damn
    good one for doing it.
    Roll on November!

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 11 23:58:12 2024
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 11:31:58 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 10:11:09?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 21:28:44 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill....@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    You do have a strange idea of what constitutes "evidence".

    Then by all means give us the benefit of your enviable sagacity and
    tell me where I went wrong, then. Which particular fact did I
    misunderstand...

    When the cited 'evidence' as input yields a conclusion as output,
    there is a mechanism in-between that connects those.
    Usually that's a logical argument.

    From Cursitor Doom, we get conclusions with no connection
    to the input. A logical chain must connect, or it doesn't
    hold. So, why should we expect understanding of a single fact to be
    the missing link? There could be facts missing, or links: we can't
    see any connection in the conclusion to any facts.

    The question I posed can only be answered (or avoided) by Bill Sloman,
    so unless you are a BS sock-puppet (whiich wouldn't surprise me) you
    can't assist here, I'm afraid.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to cd@notformail.com on Mon Feb 12 06:22:26 2024
    On a sunny day (Sun, 11 Feb 2024 23:54:58 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote in <genisitkakmmqr2h7ahovvn27j9e773ntv@4ax.com>:

    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 12:40:11 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday, February 11, 2024 at 2:09:21?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 20:38:00 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 1:46:55?AM UTC-8, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>
    That was one of the things I admired about Trump. He eschewed foreign >>> >> entanglements...

    How did his early ditching of the Iran peace deal help the
    situation, though? He further complicated the situation
    by declaring a terrorist organization and then
    declaring Soleimani a terrorist (before assassinating him).

    That's foreign, and that's entanglement.
    It's also undiplomatic.

    What Trump didn't want, was to honor the US agreements (Iran deal, 2015 Paris accords,

    Come on. Admit it: you just don't like him, do you?

    If by 'like him' meaning that I'd vote for him to lead US foreign relations for a few years,
    then no, I don't. That was pretty clear in my mind when he fired our Ukraine ambassador
    citing... no reason whatever, and got his first impeachment. Why, what did >>you think on that issue?

    The impeachment was clearly politically-motivated and therefore
    baseless and worthy of only contempt. As for sacking the Ukrainian >ambassador, whether Trump gave a reason or not, I'm sure he had a damn
    good one for doing it.
    Roll on November!

    Long ago I liked Reagan, no war, just common sense, some bluff (star-wars)..

    As to Trump, he is jewish I think, and like that idiot israeli genocide committing war monger
    the trumpo seems to think he can do anything he likes, violating any rule or law.
    He has now been on trial or convicted for so many crimes
    false value of properties, raping a women, keeping secret documents, encouraging storming Capitol Hill etc etc
    the list is long.
    And I see a correlation between Trump's presidency and COVID
    Trump started sanctioning China
    Quite possible that Dr Faulty I think his name was
    went to Trump after the DOD had marked his experiments with Bat viruses as too dangerous,
    talked trump into having it done in China, to hurt China basically.
    That backfired in a huge way.
    And Faulty was made a star under trump's reign.
    He should be sentenced to death by nitrogen or whatever they use these days.

    De Santis is out, I do not like his stand on abortion..
    Now Nicky Hailstorm, who has a jewish husband may well be the one to become president
    in case trump is locked up for example.
    Many years ago I heard her speaking at a UN meeting.
    My thought, in that second, was "Here is WW3".

    So and that republican party, its members teach kids earth was created 4000 years ago,
    more shit, proposed Pi is 4 once, and deny any life outside earth
    The Christian dogma religions, little kid abusers
    was a product of the Roman empire to control people and has cost millions of lives in wars it created and people it
    pursued as witches, so much anti-science crap
    Life outside earth was detected by Dr Levin's experiment on the NASA Viking mission:
    http://www.gillevin.com/
    but what a challenge for them poor brainwashed Christian kids and their leaders who live on their pockets.
    So NASA partly controlled by Repugblicans will never admit to life on other planets.,
    And the jews worshipping Einstein's photon particle of light while even a blind man can see that is not correct.
    Anti science club republicans are.

    So where does that leave US?
    An other Biden -> more war mongering, nuclear attack on Kiev perhaps escalation..
    Trump, now babbling about countries not paying enough for US weapons having them attacked by Russia,
    Nicky Hailstorm who is very very dangerous in what she says
    Last decent president was Obama.
    I cannot vote in the US.. so...
    Better join the preppers.
    :-)

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