• Re: US counties are blocking the future of renewable energy

    From John Larkin@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Sun Feb 4 08:17:54 2024
    On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 05:23:28 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    This isn't going to work as things now stand. The federal government needs to step in and put these monstrously ignorant and mentally unstable types in their place.

    The riffraff deniers in UK are a good example. Their complaint was solar would take all their arable land out of production. Turns out even the most ambitious solar development would consume less land than now used for golf courses.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2024/02/04/us-renewable-energy-grid-maps-graphics/72042529007/


    That piece ignores the two giant elephants at the table: energy
    storage and transmission.

    Both solar and wind have bad economics lately, too, even if you solve
    the storage and transmission problems.

    Are you among the hydrocarbon-burning riffraff, or do you have a solar
    array on your roof and a Powerwall in your garage to run your
    all-electric house and charge your ev's?

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Sun Feb 4 10:20:44 2024
    On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 09:57:39 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, February 4, 2024 at 11:19:23?AM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 05:23:28 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
    <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    This isn't going to work as things now stand. The federal government needs to step in and put these monstrously ignorant and mentally unstable types in their place.

    The riffraff deniers in UK are a good example. Their complaint was solar would take all their arable land out of production. Turns out even the most ambitious solar development would consume less land than now used for golf courses.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/graphics/2024/02/04/us-renewable-energy-grid-maps-graphics/72042529007/
    That piece ignores the two giant elephants at the table: energy
    storage and transmission.

    Both solar and wind have bad economics lately, too, even if you solve
    the storage and transmission problems.

    The same idiots are obstructing the transmission too. Wasn't that big project in New Mexico, with a transmission line running into Arizona and from there to southern California, 10 years in the making? There was a lot of opposition to that line.

    Maybe extreme, but may eventually happen, the government can declare a state of emergency, which will make any and all opposition impossible to enforce. They're already using an energy independence national security authorization to force through HV
    transmission line rights of way and land taking. Something similar will unfold in citing the big renewable projects.


    Are you among the hydrocarbon-burning riffraff, or do you have a solar
    array on your roof and a Powerwall in your garage to run your
    all-electric house and charge your ev's?

    All my energy consumption is nuclear electric.

    Car too? Barbeque? Air travel? Amazon deliveries?

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