• Re: Statement from President Joe Biden on Decision to Pause Pending App

    From john larkin@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Fri Jan 26 10:57:14 2024
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 10:11:43 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    'My Administration is announcing today a temporary pause on pending decisions of Liquefied Natural Gas exports – with the exception of unanticipated and immediate national security emergencies. During this period, we will take a hard look at the impacts
    of LNG exports on energy costs, America’s energy security, and our environment. This pause on new LNG approvals sees the climate crisis for what it is: the existential threat of our time.

    While MAGA Republicans willfully deny the urgency of the climate crisis, condemning the American people to a dangerous future, my Administration will not be complacent. We will not cede to special interests.'

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/01/26/statement-from-president-joe-biden-on-decision-to-pause-pending-approvals-of-liquefied-natural-gas-exports/

    The world will get energy from coal if they can't get NG.

    But we can leave our gas in the ground for our future use. Let Japan
    and China and India and Germany burn coal. Lots of coal.

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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to john larkin on Mon Jan 29 11:40:39 2024
    On 2024-01-26, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 10:11:43 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
    [...]
    The world will get energy from coal if they can't get NG.

    But we can leave our gas in the ground for our future use. Let Japan
    and China and India and Germany burn coal. Lots of coal.

    And "we" (the monkeys with computers) need to really figure this energy
    mess out, especially if "we" want to stick about.

    It's somewhat disheartening that the kids associate "Christmas" with
    "rainy"... (noting that as a kid, it was pretty much guaranteed to be
    snowy from Thanksgiving to April).


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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 29 06:10:10 2024
    On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 11:40:39 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
    wrote:

    On 2024-01-26, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 10:11:43 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
    [...]
    The world will get energy from coal if they can't get NG.

    But we can leave our gas in the ground for our future use. Let Japan
    and China and India and Germany burn coal. Lots of coal.

    And "we" (the monkeys with computers) need to really figure this energy
    mess out, especially if "we" want to stick about.

    So many people are convinced that a little CO2 will kill all life on
    earth, in their short bleak lifetimes. It's a new mass neurosis. If
    the heat doesn't kill you, the polar vortex will. Weird.


    It's somewhat disheartening that the kids associate "Christmas" with >"rainy"... (noting that as a kid, it was pretty much guaranteed to be
    snowy from Thanksgiving to April).

    Where's that? The NE USA and Canada recently had snow-copalis. There's
    still lots on the ground.

    The ski season started slow in Truckee but is pretty good now, with
    more predicted. It's snowing pretty hard this instant.

    https://hdontap.com/index.php/video/stream/downtown-truckee-california

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Mon Jan 29 06:16:23 2024
    On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 05:09:18 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 6:40:46?AM UTC-5, Dan Purgert wrote:
    On 2024-01-26, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 10:11:43 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
    [...]
    The world will get energy from coal if they can't get NG.

    But we can leave our gas in the ground for our future use. Let Japan
    and China and India and Germany burn coal. Lots of coal.
    And "we" (the monkeys with computers) need to really figure this energy
    mess out, especially if "we" want to stick about.

    It's somewhat disheartening that the kids associate "Christmas" with
    "rainy"... (noting that as a kid, it was pretty much guaranteed to be
    snowy from Thanksgiving to April).

    You can always move to Japan. Their mountainous east side abutting the Sea of Japan, regularly gets 5 meters of snow yearly.


    In a good year, Sugar Bowl gets 80 feet up top. The base is only 77"
    right now, packed down.

    In the last few years, a new glacier has formed near The Deadly Resort
    Formerly Known As Squaw Valley. They recently buried a bunch of
    skiiers under an avalanche.

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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Tue Jan 30 14:44:47 2024
    On 2024-01-29, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 11:40:39 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
    wrote:

    On 2024-01-26, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 10:11:43 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
    [...]
    The world will get energy from coal if they can't get NG.

    But we can leave our gas in the ground for our future use. Let Japan
    and China and India and Germany burn coal. Lots of coal.

    And "we" (the monkeys with computers) need to really figure this energy >>mess out, especially if "we" want to stick about.

    So many people are convinced that a little CO2 will kill all life on
    earth, in their short bleak lifetimes. It's a new mass neurosis. If
    the heat doesn't kill you, the polar vortex will. Weird.


    It's somewhat disheartening that the kids associate "Christmas" with >>"rainy"... (noting that as a kid, it was pretty much guaranteed to be >>snowy from Thanksgiving to April).

    Where's that? The NE USA and Canada recently had snow-copalis. There's
    still lots on the ground.

    Just off Lake Erie here. Sure we had a few days of wicked cold and
    snow, but it's once again green. Been like this easily the last 4-5
    years, if not longer.

    Know a couple of people who do maple sugaring, and they've been saying
    the warm spells are messing with the trees nowadays too ...

    I'm certainly not a climate scientist, so maybe this is actually a bit
    of a "normal" spell the planet goes through. But we've had more than a
    few "environmental crises" since I was a kid:

    - acid rain (industry cleaned up, and it's been somewhat solved?)
    - ozone layer (stopped using CFCs, and it's been somewhat solved?)
    - climate change (ehhh ... )



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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 30 08:13:39 2024
    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 00:28:57 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Monday, January 29, 2024 at 6:11:41?AM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:
    So many people are convinced that a little CO2 will kill all life on
    earth, in their short bleak lifetimes. It's a new mass neurosis. If
    the heat doesn't kill you, the polar vortex will. Weird.

    You're conflating climate change with the life-on-earth
    issue of species extinctions. Or, do you think that climate change is
    a principal causation?

    I think that extreme climate change is a social pathology.


    The big human problem that will hurt us soonest, is the unreliability of >traditional water sources. Things like the Ganges running dry for a few summer
    months, and of course the ever-popular unprecedented floods.

    Is any of that new?


    Lots of early settlements, and familiar place names, are derived from a
    water source (lake, river, springfield...) because those were the best
    sites for survival. Delaware, for instance, isn't named after the lord
    de la Warre, but after the Delaware River (bearing the name of that >expedition-of-discovery sponsor from pre-settlement years).

    Water is key. Flush toilets are the technology that makes our cities possible.

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 30 08:14:50 2024
    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 14:44:47 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
    wrote:

    On 2024-01-29, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 11:40:39 -0000 (UTC), Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net>
    wrote:

    On 2024-01-26, john larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 10:11:43 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
    [...]
    The world will get energy from coal if they can't get NG.

    But we can leave our gas in the ground for our future use. Let Japan
    and China and India and Germany burn coal. Lots of coal.

    And "we" (the monkeys with computers) need to really figure this energy >>>mess out, especially if "we" want to stick about.

    So many people are convinced that a little CO2 will kill all life on
    earth, in their short bleak lifetimes. It's a new mass neurosis. If
    the heat doesn't kill you, the polar vortex will. Weird.


    It's somewhat disheartening that the kids associate "Christmas" with >>>"rainy"... (noting that as a kid, it was pretty much guaranteed to be >>>snowy from Thanksgiving to April).

    Where's that? The NE USA and Canada recently had snow-copalis. There's
    still lots on the ground.

    Just off Lake Erie here. Sure we had a few days of wicked cold and
    snow, but it's once again green. Been like this easily the last 4-5
    years, if not longer.

    Know a couple of people who do maple sugaring, and they've been saying
    the warm spells are messing with the trees nowadays too ...

    I'm certainly not a climate scientist, so maybe this is actually a bit
    of a "normal" spell the planet goes through. But we've had more than a
    few "environmental crises" since I was a kid:

    - acid rain (industry cleaned up, and it's been somewhat solved?)
    - ozone layer (stopped using CFCs, and it's been somewhat solved?)
    - climate change (ehhh ... )

    Be as afraid as you enjoy.

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  • From jim whitby@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Wed Jan 31 17:04:36 2024
    Pardon me if this a dupe.

    On Tue, 30 Jan 2024 08:13:39 -0800, John Larkin wrote:
    <snip>

    Is any of that new?



    Of course it's all new (money ), just ask Al Gore....




    --
    Jim Whitby


    I smell a RANCID CORN DOG!
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