• Re: Evidence of Weather Modification Testing ?

    From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to Skybuck Flying on Mon Jan 22 19:08:20 2024
    On 1/22/24 18:41, Skybuck Flying wrote:
    Now that time has passed, who knows... maybe I have captured evidence of "Weather Modification" Testing...

    https://youtu.be/Pj4E6sW5QoA?si=68OGIPGIZkLNQ78_

    Nobody ever asked the question:

    Did Stalin modify the weather to freeze Hitler's army to death ?!

    Stalin and his people sure modified the shit out of the ground/earth, who knows what they did to the air.................

    Let this be a warning to Nato.

    Perhaps Russia has top secret weather modification chemicals !

    You've been warned !

    Bye for now,
    Skybuck.

    I remember from history lessons in primary school how the
    Russians dealt with invasions on their territory by scorched
    earth tactics. I did not, at the time, realize what this
    must have meant for the populations of those territories.

    Anyway, those tactics no longer work. Drones and ICBMs don't
    care about scorched earth, nor for the weather, for that matter.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Wed Jan 24 21:00:26 2024
    On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 19:08:20 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/22/24 18:41, Skybuck Flying wrote:
    Now that time has passed, who knows... maybe I have captured evidence of "Weather Modification" Testing...

    https://youtu.be/Pj4E6sW5QoA?si=68OGIPGIZkLNQ78_

    Nobody ever asked the question:

    Did Stalin modify the weather to freeze Hitler's army to death ?!

    Stalin and his people sure modified the shit out of the ground/earth, who knows what they did to the air.................

    Let this be a warning to Nato.

    Perhaps Russia has top secret weather modification chemicals !

    You've been warned !

    Bye for now,
    Skybuck.

    I remember from history lessons in primary school how the
    Russians dealt with invasions on their territory by scorched
    earth tactics. I did not, at the time, realize what this
    must have meant for the populations of those territories.

    That's just the way Russia's always been. Extreme brutality seems to
    be a national character trait. If you're going to pick a fight with
    Russia, you can't afford to lose or there'll be *hell* to pay.




    Anyway, those tactics no longer work. Drones and ICBMs don't
    care about scorched earth, nor for the weather, for that matter.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bill.sloman@ieee.org on Fri Jan 26 19:07:29 2024
    On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:03:52 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 8:00:35?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 19:08:20 +0100, Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
    On 1/22/24 18:41, Skybuck Flying wrote:

    <snip>

    I remember from history lessons in primary school how the
    Russians dealt with invasions on their territory by scorched
    earth tactics. I did not, at the time, realize what this
    must have meant for the populations of those territories.

    That's just the way Russia's always been. Extreme brutality seems to
    be a national character trait. If you're going to pick a fight with
    Russia, you can't afford to lose or there'll be *hell* to pay.

    There is no such thing as "a national character trait".

    Stuff and nonsense, Bill. Everyone with any sense knows there's some
    substance to national stereotypes. I'll grant you there are always
    exceptions, but as a rule, you'll find the Irish are drunks, Armenians
    are dishonest, Australians are ignorant and rude, Germans are
    hard-working but ill-tempered, the French are haughty and conceited,
    the English are kind-hearted and generous, Africans are savages,
    Canadians are desperately dull, the Swiss are punctual and meticulous;
    the Chinese are beastly towards animals. It's only the blinkered
    hoards of woke Lefties that deny these differences and constantly
    insist that everyone's the same. All the same! What a preposterous
    notion!
    So I'll stick by my analysis of the Russians - and you would agree if
    you'd ever read anything by the likes of Chekhov, Solzhenitsyn ,
    Turgenev or Dostoyevski - which clearly you haven't. Do yourself a
    favour and pick up a book some time and you just might learn something
    of the world.

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  • From none) (albert@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Sat Jan 27 13:39:07 2024
    In article <27e28553-ff12-4b85-a02c-f15c06626c8dn@googlegroups.com>,
    Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 12:41:28 PM UTC-5, Skybuck Flying wrote:
    Now that time has passed, who knows... maybe I have captured evidence
    of "Weather Modification" Testing...

    https://youtu.be/Pj4E6sW5QoA?si=68OGIPGIZkLNQ78_

    Nobody ever asked the question:

    Did Stalin modify the weather to freeze Hitler's army to death ?!

    Hitler's Army (Paulus) froze to death because their supply lines were >interdicted. Other than that, they could have handled the cold quite
    well.

    There is more to it. The German army was not trained for this
    circumstances. Compare this with the Kozaks, arriving from Siberia.
    Sniping at -40C is something special.
    The main problem Paulus had, was the discussion at the main staff with
    Hitler, where they dare not speak of realistic problems with supplies.
    The rest is history.


    Stalin and his people sure modified the shit out of the ground/earth,
    who knows what they did to the air.................

    Let this be a warning to Nato.

    Perhaps Russia has top secret weather modification chemicals !

    You've been warned !

    Hitler had sufficently self-inflicted problems that we don't need
    to go for this explanation.



    Bye for now,
    Skybuck.

    Groetjes Albert
    --
    Don't praise the day before the evening. One swallow doesn't make spring.
    You must not say "hey" before you have crossed the bridge. Don't sell the
    hide of the bear until you shot it. Better one bird in the hand than ten in
    the air. First gain is a cat purring. - the Wise from Antrim -

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 27 05:56:07 2024
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:39:07 +0100, albert@cherry.(none) (albert)
    wrote:

    In article <27e28553-ff12-4b85-a02c-f15c06626c8dn@googlegroups.com>,
    Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 12:41:28 PM UTC-5, Skybuck Flying wrote:
    Now that time has passed, who knows... maybe I have captured evidence
    of "Weather Modification" Testing...

    https://youtu.be/Pj4E6sW5QoA?si=68OGIPGIZkLNQ78_

    Nobody ever asked the question:

    Did Stalin modify the weather to freeze Hitler's army to death ?!

    Hitler's Army (Paulus) froze to death because their supply lines were >>interdicted. Other than that, they could have handled the cold quite
    well.

    There is more to it. The German army was not trained for this
    circumstances. Compare this with the Kozaks, arriving from Siberia.
    Sniping at -40C is something special.
    The main problem Paulus had, was the discussion at the main staff with >Hitler, where they dare not speak of realistic problems with supplies.
    The rest is history.


    They still used a lot of horses, too.

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Sat Jan 27 07:25:46 2024
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:30:18 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 8:57:35?AM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:39:07 +0100, albert@cherry.(none) (albert)
    wrote:
    In article <27e28553-ff12-4b85...@googlegroups.com>,
    Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 12:41:28?PM UTC-5, Skybuck Flying wrote:
    Now that time has passed, who knows... maybe I have captured evidence
    of "Weather Modification" Testing...

    https://youtu.be/Pj4E6sW5QoA?si=68OGIPGIZkLNQ78_

    Nobody ever asked the question:

    Did Stalin modify the weather to freeze Hitler's army to death ?!

    Hitler's Army (Paulus) froze to death because their supply lines were
    interdicted. Other than that, they could have handled the cold quite
    well.

    There is more to it. The German army was not trained for this
    circumstances. Compare this with the Kozaks, arriving from Siberia.
    Sniping at -40C is something special.
    The main problem Paulus had, was the discussion at the main staff with
    Hitler, where they dare not speak of realistic problems with supplies.
    The rest is history.

    They still used a lot of horses, too.

    Damned idiot had 600,000 infantry troops walking into Russia on foot. Germany didn't have enough transport for them all, despite stealing hundreds of thousands of vehicles from their earlier conquests in France and the Sudetenland, and the low countries.
    The disadvantage there was his army couldn't maneuver fast enough to completely encircle the Russians, which was an idiot strategy anyway.

    One small resource-limited country, attacking all its neighbors in all directions, isn't very bright, although that had been standard
    practice in europe for some millenia. Sort of still is.

    Stealing French motor vehicles wasn't too swift either.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 27 20:44:09 2024
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 07:25:46 -0800, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 06:30:18 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs ><bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 8:57:35?AM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 13:39:07 +0100, albert@cherry.(none) (albert)
    wrote:
    In article <27e28553-ff12-4b85...@googlegroups.com>,
    Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, January 22, 2024 at 12:41:28?PM UTC-5, Skybuck Flying wrote: >>> >>> Now that time has passed, who knows... maybe I have captured evidence >>> >>of "Weather Modification" Testing...

    https://youtu.be/Pj4E6sW5QoA?si=68OGIPGIZkLNQ78_

    Nobody ever asked the question:

    Did Stalin modify the weather to freeze Hitler's army to death ?!

    Hitler's Army (Paulus) froze to death because their supply lines were
    interdicted. Other than that, they could have handled the cold quite
    well.

    There is more to it. The German army was not trained for this
    circumstances. Compare this with the Kozaks, arriving from Siberia.
    Sniping at -40C is something special.
    The main problem Paulus had, was the discussion at the main staff with
    Hitler, where they dare not speak of realistic problems with supplies.
    The rest is history.

    They still used a lot of horses, too.

    Damned idiot had 600,000 infantry troops walking into Russia on foot. Germany didn't have enough transport for them all, despite stealing hundreds of thousands of vehicles from their earlier conquests in France and the Sudetenland, and the low
    countries. The disadvantage there was his army couldn't maneuver fast enough to completely encircle the Russians, which was an idiot strategy anyway.

    One small resource-limited country, attacking all its neighbors in all >directions, isn't very bright, although that had been standard
    practice in europe for some millenia. Sort of still is.

    Stealing French motor vehicles wasn't too swift either.

    As a military commander, Hitler was hopeless. He had one of the finest
    armies in the world ever and just squandered it with a succession of
    poor judgements.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bill.sloman@ieee.org on Sat Jan 27 20:41:12 2024
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:23:38 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 6:07:37?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:03:52 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman
    <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 8:00:35?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 19:08:20 +0100, Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
    On 1/22/24 18:41, Skybuck Flying wrote:

    <snip>

    I remember from history lessons in primary school how the
    Russians dealt with invasions on their territory by scorched
    earth tactics. I did not, at the time, realize what this
    must have meant for the populations of those territories.

    That's just the way Russia's always been. Extreme brutality seems to
    be a national character trait. If you're going to pick a fight with
    Russia, you can't afford to lose or there'll be *hell* to pay.

    There is no such thing as "a national character trait".

    Stuff and nonsense, Bill. Everyone with any sense knows there's some
    substance to national stereotypes. I'll grant you there are always
    exceptions, but as a rule, you'll find the Irish are drunks, Armenians
    are dishonest, Australians are ignorant and rude, Germans are
    hard-working but ill-tempered, the French are haughty and conceited,
    the English are kind-hearted and generous, Africans are savages,
    Canadians are desperately dull, the Swiss are punctual and meticulous;
    the Chinese are beastly towards animals. It's only the blinkered
    hoards of woke Lefties that deny these differences and constantly
    insist that everyone's the same. All the same! What a preposterous
    notion!

    That really is stuff and nonsense. Nobody with any sense insists that "people are all the same".
    The actual formulation is that everybody is different, and that every nation has a similar proportion of drunks, crooks, rude people, ignorant people and so forth.
    The variation within nationalities is much larger than the variation - if any - between nationalities.
    All of those platitudes are self-serving nonsense. Nobody who has ever lived in England would catagorise the English as kind-hearted or generous - quite a few of them are, but no more that in any other place I've lived. What I noticed was that a lot of
    them were remarkably class-conscious - more than I'd run into Australia (which definitely does have social classes, but encourages people to act as of it didn't.)

    So I'll stick by my analysis of the Russians - and you would agree if
    you'd ever read anything by the likes of Chekhov, Solzhenitsyn ,
    Turgenev or Dostoyevski - which clearly you haven't.

    I've limited my Russian reading to Tolstoy and the Stugatski brothers (who wrote some interesting science fiction). Chekov is more famous for his plays. Sokzhenitskin got picked up by the Americans and I found Dostoyevski hopelessly tedious

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkady_and_Boris_Strugatsky

    I've only read them in translation - I did science Russian at university and eventually passed, but the aim was to get me to the point where I could translate Russian scientific papers, and the Americans took to doing it on a large scale and I never had
    to bother.

    Do yourself a favour and pick up a book some time and you just might learn something of the world.

    I've been a voracious reader all my life. I once caught John Woodgate trying to pass off a Thomas Love Peacock satire as ancient Welsh. I'm not silly enough to think that novels tell you all that much about the world, They tell you quite a bit about the
    author's environment, but not the whole story by any means.

    You seem to imagine that you know something of the world, but you post enough fatuous nonsense to make it blindingly obvious that you don't.

    You do love to argue, even when you're making yourself look daft by
    citing some pulp Sci-Fi authors. Most of us grew out of SF by the time
    we discovered what our dicks were for. Seems you didn't!

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to Sloman on Sun Jan 28 12:04:57 2024
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 19:33:04 -0800 (PST), Anthony William "Last Word"
    Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 7:41:25?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:23:38 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman
    <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 6:07:37?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:03:52 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman
    <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 8:00:35?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 19:08:20 +0100, Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
    On 1/22/24 18:41, Skybuck Flying wrote:

    <snip>

    So I'll stick by my analysis of the Russians - and you would agree if
    you'd ever read anything by the likes of Chekhov, Solzhenitsyn ,
    Turgenev or Dostoyevski - which clearly you haven't.

    I've limited my Russian reading to Tolstoy and the Stugatski brothers (who wrote some interesting science fiction). Chekov is more famous for his plays. Sokzhenitskin got picked up by the Americans and I found Dostoyevski hopelessly tedious

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkady_and_Boris_Strugatsky

    I've only read them in translation - I did science Russian at university and eventually passed, but the aim was to get me to the point where I could translate Russian scientific papers, and the Americans took to doing it on a large scale and I never
    had to bother.

    Do yourself a favour and pick up a book some time and you just might learn something of the world.

    I've been a voracious reader all my life. I once caught John Woodgate trying to pass off a Thomas Love Peacock satire as ancient Welsh. I'm not silly enough to think that novels tell you all that much about the world, They tell you quite a bit about
    the author's environment, but not the whole story by any means.

    You seem to imagine that you know something of the world, but you post enough fatuous nonsense to make it blindingly obvious that you don't.

    You do love to argue, even when you're making yourself look daft by
    citing some pulp Sci-Fi authors.

    The Strugatsky brothers didn't write "pulp science fiction" - they were more in the Larry Niven, Arthur C Clarke and Neal Stephenson league.

    Most of us grew out of SF by the time we discovered what our dicks were for. Seems you didn't!

    A lot of science fiction is written for adolescents - I never though much of the stuff that was written for that market.

    One of the other Russian science fiction authors I've read is

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yevgeny_Zamyatin

    who exemplifies the satirical aspect of the genre, which you don't seem to be aware of.

    One of the enduring aspects of the human psyche is the endless drive
    to set other people beneath you; to try to gain some sort of status
    advantage by any number of ingenious means. The noted anthropologist
    Desmond Morris wrote about it at some length in his 1977 book
    Manwatching. Here's an excerpt from page 124 as he goes on to describe
    the methods by which those of the lower social strata differentiate
    themselves for this purpose:
    ".....There is also the Joker, another low-status type who manages to
    increase his dominance slightly by entertaining his companions. By
    amusing them, he puts himself in demand. Unable to gain their serious
    respect, he gains it by humoring them, in both senses of the word.
    Then there is the Talker: the man who never stops talking and thereby
    manages to hold the centre of attention for much more than his share
    of any social encounter. And finally, there is the Arguer, who prowls
    the social [media] scene wanting to pick a verbal fight. By disrupting
    the smooth flow of social intercourse, he too draws attention to
    himself and slightly increases his standing in the process." That last
    one's you to a tee, isn't it, Bill? Except that despite your best
    efforts, you only earn the disdain of others through your
    indefatigable efforts.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bill.sloman@ieee.org on Sun Jan 28 18:13:35 2024
    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 05:32:36 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 11:05:07?PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 19:33:04 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 7:41:25?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:23:38 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 6:07:37?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:03:52 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 8:00:35?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 19:08:20 +0100, Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
    On 1/22/24 18:41, Skybuck Flying wrote:

    <snip>

    One of the enduring aspects of the human psyche is the endless drive
    to set other people beneath you; to try to gain some sort of status
    advantage by any number of ingenious means.

    I can't say I've noticed this. Insecure people do tend to rabbit on about the status they think they have got, but that's mainly self-reassurance.

    The noted anthropologist Desmond Morris wrote about it at some length in his 1977 book Manwatching.

    He wasn't any kind of "noted anthroplogist". He was just one more popular science author, though his publishers did try to talk up his academic status a bit.
    Noe of the anthropologists I know ever talked about him.

    Here's an excerpt from page 124 as he goes on to describe
    the methods by which those of the lower social strata differentiate
    themselves for this purpose:

    <snip>

    " And finally, there is the Arguer, who prowls the social [media] scene wanting to pick a verbal fight. By disrupting
    the smooth flow of social intercourse, he too draws attention to himself and slightly increases his standing in the process."

    That last one's you to a tee, isn't it, Bill?

    Not exactly. I go after people who post nonsense. I was doing long before there was a sci.electronics.design

    If you look me up on scholar.google you will find I've published about half-a-dozen critical comments inf places like the review of Scientific Instruments - where critical comments are peer-reviewed just like any other item. It's not a status-seeking
    thing - you don't get any status from correcting errors.

    Except that despite your best efforts, you only earn the disdain of others through your indefatigable efforts.

    People who post a lot of nonsense - like you and John Larkin - don't like me much. You may want to dignify your resentment by calling it "disdain" but it's purely irritation at being rumbled. At your level in the pecking order you lack the status to be
    disdainful.

    Well, as far as this group is concerned, when it comes to electronics,
    I admit I'm towards the bottom of the pecking order. I'm just a
    hobbyist and have never claimed to be anything more. I'm in the thrall
    of people like John Larkin and Phil Hobbs whose level of expertise in
    the subject I could never hope to equal. However, when it comes to
    just about any *other* subject, I'm very much higher up - and can
    certainly kick your arse with consummate ease. Sorry for the bad
    language and no offence intended. You'll never admit it, but outside
    of electronics, I'm the Big Dawg here - and you know it.

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 28 19:41:52 2024
    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 18:13:35 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 05:32:36 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman ><bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 11:05:07?PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 19:33:04 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 7:41:25?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:23:38 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 6:07:37?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:03:52 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 8:00:35?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 19:08:20 +0100, Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
    On 1/22/24 18:41, Skybuck Flying wrote:

    <snip>

    One of the enduring aspects of the human psyche is the endless drive
    to set other people beneath you; to try to gain some sort of status
    advantage by any number of ingenious means.

    I can't say I've noticed this. Insecure people do tend to rabbit on about the status they think they have got, but that's mainly self-reassurance.

    The noted anthropologist Desmond Morris wrote about it at some length in his 1977 book Manwatching.

    He wasn't any kind of "noted anthroplogist". He was just one more popular science author, though his publishers did try to talk up his academic status a bit.
    Noe of the anthropologists I know ever talked about him.

    Here's an excerpt from page 124 as he goes on to describe
    the methods by which those of the lower social strata differentiate
    themselves for this purpose:

    <snip>

    " And finally, there is the Arguer, who prowls the social [media] scene wanting to pick a verbal fight. By disrupting
    the smooth flow of social intercourse, he too draws attention to himself and slightly increases his standing in the process."

    That last one's you to a tee, isn't it, Bill?

    Not exactly. I go after people who post nonsense. I was doing long before there was a sci.electronics.design

    If you look me up on scholar.google you will find I've published about half-a-dozen critical comments inf places like the review of Scientific Instruments - where critical comments are peer-reviewed just like any other item. It's not a status-seeking
    thing - you don't get any status from correcting errors.

    Except that despite your best efforts, you only earn the disdain of others through your indefatigable efforts.

    People who post a lot of nonsense - like you and John Larkin - don't like me much. You may want to dignify your resentment by calling it "disdain" but it's purely irritation at being rumbled. At your level in the pecking order you lack the status to be
    disdainful.

    Well, as far as this group is concerned, when it comes to electronics,
    I admit I'm towards the bottom of the pecking order. I'm just a
    hobbyist and have never claimed to be anything more. I'm in the thrall
    of people like John Larkin and Phil Hobbs whose level of expertise in
    the subject I could never hope to equal. However, when it comes to
    just about any *other* subject, I'm very much higher up - and can
    certainly kick your arse with consummate ease. Sorry for the bad
    language and no offence intended. You'll never admit it, but outside
    of electronics, I'm the Big Dawg here - and you know it.

    We don't need a heirarchy. Everybody can discuss stuff and help one
    another.

    Some people only want to be nasty. Ignore them.

    Do you cook? Ski? Saw? Read books? There must be some other way I can
    kick your arse. But if you don't mind, I know what a dawg is, but what
    what is an arse?

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 29 16:41:43 2024
    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 19:41:52 -0800, John Larkin <jl@997PotHill.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 18:13:35 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 05:32:36 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman >><bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 11:05:07?PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 19:33:04 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 7:41:25?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>>> >> On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 18:23:38 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 6:07:37?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Wed, 24 Jan 2024 17:03:52 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Thursday, January 25, 2024 at 8:00:35?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 19:08:20 +0100, Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
    On 1/22/24 18:41, Skybuck Flying wrote:

    <snip>

    One of the enduring aspects of the human psyche is the endless drive
    to set other people beneath you; to try to gain some sort of status
    advantage by any number of ingenious means.

    I can't say I've noticed this. Insecure people do tend to rabbit on about the status they think they have got, but that's mainly self-reassurance.

    The noted anthropologist Desmond Morris wrote about it at some length in his 1977 book Manwatching.

    He wasn't any kind of "noted anthroplogist". He was just one more popular science author, though his publishers did try to talk up his academic status a bit.
    Noe of the anthropologists I know ever talked about him.

    Here's an excerpt from page 124 as he goes on to describe
    the methods by which those of the lower social strata differentiate
    themselves for this purpose:

    <snip>

    " And finally, there is the Arguer, who prowls the social [media] scene wanting to pick a verbal fight. By disrupting
    the smooth flow of social intercourse, he too draws attention to himself and slightly increases his standing in the process."

    That last one's you to a tee, isn't it, Bill?

    Not exactly. I go after people who post nonsense. I was doing long before there was a sci.electronics.design

    If you look me up on scholar.google you will find I've published about half-a-dozen critical comments inf places like the review of Scientific Instruments - where critical comments are peer-reviewed just like any other item. It's not a status-seeking
    thing - you don't get any status from correcting errors.

    Except that despite your best efforts, you only earn the disdain of others through your indefatigable efforts.

    People who post a lot of nonsense - like you and John Larkin - don't like me much. You may want to dignify your resentment by calling it "disdain" but it's purely irritation at being rumbled. At your level in the pecking order you lack the status to
    be disdainful.

    Well, as far as this group is concerned, when it comes to electronics,
    I admit I'm towards the bottom of the pecking order. I'm just a
    hobbyist and have never claimed to be anything more. I'm in the thrall
    of people like John Larkin and Phil Hobbs whose level of expertise in
    the subject I could never hope to equal. However, when it comes to
    just about any *other* subject, I'm very much higher up - and can
    certainly kick your arse with consummate ease. Sorry for the bad
    language and no offence intended. You'll never admit it, but outside
    of electronics, I'm the Big Dawg here - and you know it.

    We don't need a heirarchy. Everybody can discuss stuff and help one
    another.

    Some people only want to be nasty. Ignore them.

    Do you cook? Ski? Saw? Read books? There must be some other way I can
    kick your arse. But if you don't mind, I know what a dawg is, but what
    what is an arse?

    Bill Sloman! :D

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