• nuclear battery

    From jim whitby@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jan 14 09:20:13 2024
    From Tomshardware site

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/chinese-developed-nuclear-battery-has-a-50-year-lifespan>

    IF this isn't BS...

    Somebody in the free world needs to get off their asses!

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to jim whitby on Sun Jan 14 16:48:54 2024
    On 1/14/24 15:20, jim whitby wrote:
    From Tomshardware site

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/chinese-developed-nuclear-battery-has-a-50-year-lifespan>

    IF this isn't BS...

    Somebody in the free world needs to get off their asses!

    Beta batteries are nothing new, but they find only few applications.
    If you have a device that needs very little power but needs to run
    for many years untended, it may be a good option.

    The Ni63 that powers it probably doesn't come cheap, so you need a
    really good reason to use one.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to jim whitby on Sun Jan 14 16:02:58 2024
    On 14/01/2024 14:20, jim whitby wrote:
    From Tomshardware site

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/chinese-developed-nuclear-battery-has-a-50-year-lifespan>

    IF this isn't BS...

    Somebody in the free world needs to get off their asses!

    It is largely clueless marketing hype. Whilst the thing can generate a miniscule current for an incredibly long time it is a toy - and nothing
    more. Zamboni piles do much the same thing without any radioactivity.

    There has been one ringing a bell in Oxford for nearly 200 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboni_pile


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    Martin Brown

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  • From jim whitby@21:1/5 to Martin Brown on Sun Jan 14 11:32:58 2024
    On 1/14/24 11:02, Martin Brown wrote:
    On 14/01/2024 14:20, jim whitby wrote:
     From Tomshardware site

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/chinese-developed-nuclear-battery-has-a-50-year-lifespan>

    IF this isn't BS...

    Somebody in the free world needs to get off their asses!

    It is largely clueless marketing hype. Whilst the thing can generate a miniscule current for an incredibly long time it is a toy - and nothing
    more. Zamboni piles do much the same thing without any radioactivity.

    There has been one ringing a bell in Oxford for nearly 200 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboni_pile



    Thank both of you. I suspected it was bs, but coming from Tomshardware,
    I wasn't sure.

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to jim whitby on Sun Jan 14 16:56:11 2024
    On 14/01/2024 16:32, jim whitby wrote:
    On 1/14/24 11:02, Martin Brown wrote:
    On 14/01/2024 14:20, jim whitby wrote:
     From Tomshardware site

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/chinese-developed-nuclear-battery-has-a-50-year-lifespan>

    IF this isn't BS...

    Somebody in the free world needs to get off their asses!

    It is largely clueless marketing hype. Whilst the thing can generate a
    miniscule current for an incredibly long time it is a toy - and
    nothing more. Zamboni piles do much the same thing without any
    radioactivity.

    There has been one ringing a bell in Oxford for nearly 200 years.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zamboni_pile



    Thank both of you. I suspected it was bs, but coming from Tomshardware,
    I wasn't sure.

    The diamond nuclear battery has been popping up a lot recently, maybe
    it's like solar roadways where companies take an old idea, spin it so it
    sounds amazing, and use this to get huge amounts of funding for research
    while, one presumes, knowing full well that they will fail to develop
    anything useful.

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Mon Jan 15 07:42:56 2024
    On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 16:48:54 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/14/24 15:20, jim whitby wrote:
    From Tomshardware site

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/chinese-developed-nuclear-battery-has-a-50-year-lifespan>

    IF this isn't BS...

    Somebody in the free world needs to get off their asses!

    Beta batteries are nothing new, but they find only few applications.
    If you have a device that needs very little power but needs to run
    for many years untended, it may be a good option.

    The Ni63 that powers it probably doesn't come cheap, so you need a
    really good reason to use one.

    Jeroen Belleman

    One problem with beta batteries is that they make a small current at
    hundreds of kilovolts. There have been various exotic dc/dc converters
    for them, but none have been practical so far.

    A lithium primary cell is usually a better deal. The Tadiran parts
    claim over 35 year lifetime.

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Mon Jan 15 20:54:27 2024
    On 1/15/24 16:42, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 16:48:54 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

    On 1/14/24 15:20, jim whitby wrote:
    From Tomshardware site

    <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/power-supplies/chinese-developed-nuclear-battery-has-a-50-year-lifespan>

    IF this isn't BS...

    Somebody in the free world needs to get off their asses!

    Beta batteries are nothing new, but they find only few applications.
    If you have a device that needs very little power but needs to run
    for many years untended, it may be a good option.

    The Ni63 that powers it probably doesn't come cheap, so you need a
    really good reason to use one.

    Jeroen Belleman

    One problem with beta batteries is that they make a small current at
    hundreds of kilovolts. There have been various exotic dc/dc converters
    for them, but none have been practical so far.

    A lithium primary cell is usually a better deal. The Tadiran parts
    claim over 35 year lifetime.

    I gather the usual way to convert betas into usable voltage and
    current is to let them pass through a stack of large bandgap
    photo diodes. Still, you are correct that a lithium primary cell
    is easier.

    Jeroen Belleman

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