• Researchers 3D print components for a portable mass spectrometer

    From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 5 04:30:49 2024
    Researchers 3D print components for a portable mass spectrometer
    MIT news:
    https://news.mit.edu/2024/researchers-3d-print-components-portable-mass-spectrometer-0104

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Fri Jan 5 13:29:45 2024
    On 1/5/24 05:30, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Researchers 3D print components for a portable mass spectrometer
    MIT news:
    https://news.mit.edu/2024/researchers-3d-print-components-portable-mass-spectrometer-0104


    So they 3D-print the electrodes and their supports from
    some glass-ceramic-resin composite and then use electroless
    metal deposition on the surfaces that are to become the
    electrodes. Metallizing just the electrodes while avoiding
    the support structure might be fiddly.

    I think the traditional rod electrodes weren't the hardest
    part in a mass spectrometer anyway. The vacuum system and a
    reliable sample input port are what makes it expensive.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Fri Jan 5 14:47:59 2024
    On a sunny day (Fri, 5 Jan 2024 13:29:45 +0100) it happened Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <un8smg$59o4$1@dont-email.me>:

    On 1/5/24 05:30, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Researchers 3D print components for a portable mass spectrometer
    MIT news:
    https://news.mit.edu/2024/researchers-3d-print-components-portable-mass-spectrometer-0104


    So they 3D-print the electrodes and their supports from
    some glass-ceramic-resin composite and then use electroless
    metal deposition on the surfaces that are to become the
    electrodes. Metallizing just the electrodes while avoiding
    the support structure might be fiddly.

    I think the traditional rod electrodes weren't the hardest
    part in a mass spectrometer anyway. The vacuum system and a
    reliable sample input port are what makes it expensive.

    Much hight tech stuff is 3D printed these days, take for example Relativity Space:
    https://www.nasa.gov/centers-and-facilities/marshall/3d-printed-rocket-launched-using-innovative-nasa-alloy/

    I have been considering buying some 3D printing system myself
    but do not really have the safe space for it here, some of that stuff
    needs a polluted air sucking system to get rid of the vapors, maybe garden shed, but its full of garden tools
    and no electricity and no heating..

    I worked in a large university hospital for a while where part of my job was to keep their mass spectrometer running,
    was also used to do criminal research, so I did get some sort of intro on how it worked...
    Did not break down then though :-)

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to Jeroen Belleman on Sat Jan 6 10:31:52 2024
    On 05/01/2024 12:29, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
    On 1/5/24 05:30, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Researchers 3D print components for a portable mass spectrometer
    MIT news:

    https://news.mit.edu/2024/researchers-3d-print-components-portable-mass-spectrometer-0104

    So they 3D-print the electrodes and their supports from
    some glass-ceramic-resin composite and then use electroless
    metal deposition on the surfaces that are to become the
    electrodes. Metallizing just the electrodes while avoiding
    the support structure might be fiddly.

    I'd be surprised if it didn't outgas essentially forever using that manufacturing technique. Lost wax casting might stand more chance...

    I think the traditional rod electrodes weren't the hardest
    part in a mass spectrometer anyway. The vacuum system and a
    reliable sample input port are what makes it expensive.

    Particularly for the precision hard vacuum of magnetic sector mass specs
    which are typically baked to 150C to get the last traces of water off
    the internal surfaces as a part of commissioning. It was bad news if
    someone left a screwdriver inside at that stage (and it did happen).

    When I was involved in that game only a handful of plastics could handle
    that sort of abuse PTFE and the engineering plastic PEEK.

    Quadrupoles will tolerate a much worse vacuum - I can't recall by how
    much but ICPMS effectively works with a pinhole facing a 8000K plasma at
    1ATM and some Faraday cup and turbo pump based ones could survive
    without interlocks. The main difficulty was keeping the sampling orifice
    from melting! Classic ones with oil diffusion pumps you had a very big
    cleaning job to do if the vacuum protection system interlocks failed.

    The high end ones with ion counting sensors in needed a decent vacuum
    all the time and a photon stop to avoid the sensor seeing the plasma
    flame. They had sophisticated interlocks to prevent various forms of catastrophic failures like meltdown, fire, flood and other mayhem.

    --
    Martin Brown

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  • From Glen Walpert@21:1/5 to Martin Brown on Sat Jan 6 14:20:40 2024
    On Sat, 6 Jan 2024 10:31:52 +0000, Martin Brown wrote:

    On 05/01/2024 12:29, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
    On 1/5/24 05:30, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Researchers 3D print components for a portable mass spectrometer MIT
    news:

    https://news.mit.edu/2024/researchers-3d-print-components-portable- mass-spectrometer-0104

    So they 3D-print the electrodes and their supports from some
    glass-ceramic-resin composite and then use electroless metal deposition
    on the surfaces that are to become the electrodes. Metallizing just the
    electrodes while avoiding the support structure might be fiddly.

    I'd be surprised if it didn't outgas essentially forever using that manufacturing technique. Lost wax casting might stand more chance...

    I think that the 800C rating of the glass-ceramic material should be
    adequate for bake-out, and as you point out below ultra-high vacuum is not required for quadrapole MS. The study was funded by a company in the
    medical MS business, probably not out of kindness.

    Likely suspect for the 3D printing system:

    <https://3dprintingindustry.com/news/breakthrough-ceramic-glass-material- for-3d-printing-launched-by-lithoz-and-glassomer-221583/>

    <https://lithoz.com/en/lithoz-and-glassomer-launch-innovation-partnership- presenting-lithaglass-powered-by-glassomer-a-3d-printable-quartz-glass- for-high-performance-applications/>

    "LithaGlass ... a composite slurry with a base of quartz glass ...
    The design freedom of 3D printing combines with the desirable properties
    of high-performance fused silica glass – such as mechanical stability and high thermal and chemical resistance, as well as low thermal expansion and
    a resulting high thermal shock resistance. With LithaGlass being closer to
    a ceramic than standard glasses like soda lime glass, it also has the
    desirable material properties of fused silica glass including a low
    thermal expansion and high thermal shock resistance."

    Sparse on details, but likely any resin used as binder is baked out in the process of heating to particle fusing temperature, although post-printing processing is not discussed. If they have a resin that can withstand the
    800C working temp of the finished product that would be rather
    impressive. Perhaps they are using some non-polymer binder with no post processing required, they have not identified any component of the slurry except for silica.

    I think the traditional rod electrodes weren't the hardest part in a
    mass spectrometer anyway. The vacuum system and a reliable sample input
    port are what makes it expensive.

    Particularly for the precision hard vacuum of magnetic sector mass specs which are typically baked to 150C to get the last traces of water off
    the internal surfaces as a part of commissioning. It was bad news if
    someone left a screwdriver inside at that stage (and it did happen).

    When I was involved in that game only a handful of plastics could handle
    that sort of abuse PTFE and the engineering plastic PEEK.

    Quadrupoles will tolerate a much worse vacuum - I can't recall by how
    much but ICPMS effectively works with a pinhole facing a 8000K plasma at
    1ATM and some Faraday cup and turbo pump based ones could survive
    without interlocks. The main difficulty was keeping the sampling orifice
    from melting! Classic ones with oil diffusion pumps you had a very big cleaning job to do if the vacuum protection system interlocks failed.

    The high end ones with ion counting sensors in needed a decent vacuum
    all the time and a photon stop to avoid the sensor seeing the plasma
    flame. They had sophisticated interlocks to prevent various forms of catastrophic failures like meltdown, fire, flood and other mayhem.

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