• Re: OT: mRNA Vaccines & Cancer Link Becomes Clearer

    From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 27 20:10:54 2023
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    <https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/>

    I've had all COVID shots and boosters, plus RSV, and am none the worse
    for it. I have had COVID recently, but it was basically a 4-day cold.

    As for the terrible risks from mRNA vaccines, I just read the
    definitive study of the relative efficacy and risks of traditional
    egg-based Flu vaccines versus a new mRNA Flu vaccine, which study has
    almost three million patients, half getting one and half getting the
    other. The mRNA vaccine is about 10% better than traditional, with
    lower numbers of adverse reactions.

    So mRNA vaccines will not be banned anytime soon. Instead, mRNA (and
    DNA) vaccines will replace all others for these kinds of viruses.

    Joe Gwinn

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 28 00:54:57 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

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  • From Paul@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Wed Dec 27 20:56:10 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 12/27/2023 7:54 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/


    What I find interesting, is a Google search on the guys name,
    allows 19 pages of results to come back. I'm never allowed
    19 pages of results in the year 2023. Some days, I get one page
    of results and that is it.

    In the 19 pages, I see absolutely no rebuttal. It appears
    no one is interested in writing a rebuttal. Or, for some
    reason, the Google result does not include rebuttals.

    I have to do one of these. It only went to 10 pages. No snopes
    results came back.

    snopes Angus Dalgleish

    One of the problems with making anecdotal claims, is without
    a submitted paper to comment on, there's no real interest
    in just yacking. No one wants to Gish Gallop with the guy.

    Once you write a paper, that is accepted into a journal, then...
    you get feedback. First there is peer review. Then... there
    is anecdotal commentary and media feedback, once you produce
    a result of note.

    You can write papers which are meta-studies, and use the
    selected results of a lot of other research, to draw conclusions.
    Valuable science can be done that way. No soap box needed.

    *******

    This is an example of an animal study. Notice, that the experimenter
    does not "jump to any conclusions" nor "run down the street with hair on fire". There are some offhand comments about previous (non-mRNA) vaccines
    also having interesting side effects.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10183601/

    Now, that's how you do science. And that particular item, is effectively
    a call to others, to do their own well-designed animal study. The
    experimenter in that paper, does not have a proposed mechanism. And that's
    why they did the post-mortem workup, to collect as many useful
    observations as possible. Others will build on that work (one way
    or another).

    Paul

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Thu Dec 28 03:19:26 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 00:54, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    I already had one
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    It is irrelevant.

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Oh dear oh dear.


    --
    "Fanaticism consists in redoubling your effort when you have
    forgotten your aim."

    George Santayana

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to cd@notformail.com on Thu Dec 28 06:39:42 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000) it happened Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote in <0khpoipdasq1i45i0cvpcfkmt72t83tc5s@4ax.com>:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Yes, it is the US Medical Industrial Complex
    making dangerous stuff in far from their bed locations (other countries)
    to increase sales of dangerous snake oil vaccines.
    It is _capitalism_ at its worst,
    just like the US Military Industrial Complex is creating wars in many far from their bed locations
    to increase weapon sales.
    For the true capitalist human lives are irrelevant and only dollars count.
    Pity dollars are no longer coupled to gold and they are still making a loss
    and is kept going by taxing the poor so the poor have to live on the streets CIA pawn nethanyahoo had as task to provoke Hamas so more war would start
    and more US weapons could be sold.
    US demon-crates have used and played the masses even as cannon food, all through history.
    FREE yourself, revolt!!!

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  • From Steve@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Thu Dec 28 08:21:37 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to Steve on Thu Dec 28 11:09:09 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.


    I got as far as this:

    "First the ‘vaccine’ did not stay at the site of injection as promised
    but travelled throughout the body and were found at post-mortems to be everywhere. "

    Nobody promised that the vaccines would stay at the point of injection.
    How could they work if they did that?

    If that is the standard of this guy's pseudo-scientific work, you can
    see why nobody reputable would publish his 2020 paper, which he claims
    was suppressed.

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Steve on Thu Dec 28 11:04:56 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy -
    most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their salaries,
    most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, because they
    know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what
    position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan
    sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she listens to the BBC and
    reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making money,
    and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not right wing.
    It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who used to be
    in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from within
    by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain with
    Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the Guardian
    for all that. They are however lying to you about climate change,
    immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in general
    anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will
    fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what reason
    would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...



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    to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

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  • From Colin Bignell@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Dec 28 13:03:49 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:

    'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.'

    I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports
    right wing views.


    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy -
    most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their salaries,
    most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, because they
    know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what
    position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan
    sister remark 'on which websites you read'  (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making money,
    and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not right wing.
    It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who used to be
    in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from within
    by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the Guardian
    for all that. They are however lying to you about climate change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will
    fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*,  what reason
    would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...




    --
    Colin Bignell

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  • From SteveW@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Dec 28 12:55:57 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy -
    most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their salaries,
    most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, because they
    know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what
    position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan
    sister remark 'on which websites you read'  (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making money,
    and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not right wing.
    It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who used to be
    in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from within
    by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the Guardian
    for all that. They are however lying to you about climate change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will
    fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*,  what reason
    would they have to exist any more?

    If they demonstrated competence in solving the problem, then they'd have demonstrated that they would likely be competent to solve other problems
    and therefore be eminently re-electable. The trouble is none of the
    parties shows any competence and even where they do start to work on a
    problem, the end point is so far down the line that the next government
    cancels the work on it or takes the credit for the result.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk on Thu Dec 28 14:10:27 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell
    <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:

    'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day >problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.'

    I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports >right wing views.

    What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
    concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
    dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
    time later.




    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
    qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy -
    most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their salaries,
    most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, because they
    know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what
    position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan
    sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she listens to the BBC and
    reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making money,
    and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not right wing.
    It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who used to be
    in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from within
    by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain with
    Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the Guardian
    for all that. They are however lying to you about climate change,
    immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in general
    anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will
    fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what reason
    would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...




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  • From Steve@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Thu Dec 28 14:08:50 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their
    salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing,
    because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their
    salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid
    leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she
    listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can be well
    misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
    money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not
    right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people
    who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from
    within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain
    with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the
    Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate
    change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in
    general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we
    will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what
    reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...



    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Thu Dec 28 16:32:40 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 12/28/23 15:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:

    'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
    problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.' >>
    I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports
    right wing views.

    What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
    concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
    dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
    time later.

    Post hoc, ergo propter hoc. One of the better known errors
    of reasoning.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From Colin Bignell@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Thu Dec 28 16:02:06 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 14:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:

    'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
    problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.' >>
    I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports
    right wing views.

    What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
    concerned about the vaccines. ...

    I agree that there are nutters everywhere, but the point being discussed
    was political leanings of that particular site.

    --
    Colin Bignell

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Steve on Thu Dec 28 16:49:04 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
    qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their
    salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing,
    because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their
    salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid
    leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she
    listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can be well
    misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
    money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not
    right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people
    who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from
    within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain
    with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the
    Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate
    change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in
    general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we
    will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what
    reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...



    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?

    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )






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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Thu Dec 28 16:51:10 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 14:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    There are people on the Left who are equally
    concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
    dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
    time later.

    Is plowcunt dead? I had him killfiled so I never noticed. And how did
    you know what he died of?



    --
    “Ideas are inherently conservative. They yield not to the attack of
    other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

    - John K Galbraith

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to SteveW on Thu Dec 28 16:45:51 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 12:55, SteveW wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
    qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their
    salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing,
    because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their
    salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid
    leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you read'  (she
    listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can be well
    misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
    money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not right
    wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who
    used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from
    within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain
    with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the
    Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate
    change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in
    general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will
    fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*,  what reason
    would they have to exist any more?

    If they demonstrated competence in solving the problem, then they'd have demonstrated that they would likely be competent to solve other problems
    and therefore be eminently re-electable. The trouble is none of the
    parties shows any competence and even where they do start to work on a problem, the end point is so far down the line that the next government cancels the work on it or takes the credit for the result.


    Amen to all that.

    Which is why the hidden secret state of corrupt Whitehall and Brussels mandarins got all the power and the politicians merely were allowed to
    sell what *they* decided to do as best they could.

    The best government is the least government that can maintain law and order. Today's government is the most government the taxpayer can stand without
    riots in the streets, and fuck law and order.


    --
    Truth welcomes investigation because truth knows investigation will lead
    to converts. It is deception that uses all the other techniques.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com on Thu Dec 28 17:13:00 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 04:02:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 01:10:27 +1100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell
    <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:

    'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
    problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our
    liberty.'

    I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports >>> right wing views.

    What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
    concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
    dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
    time later.

    It was the prostate cancer that killed him, not the vaccination.

    Wrong as ever, my antipodean friend. Bowel cancer actually - which had
    been successfully treated until he had his covid jab. Flared up again
    shortly after. Poor bastard.


    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
    qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy - >>>> most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their salaries, >>>> most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, because they
    know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what
    position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan >>>> sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she listens to the BBC and >>>> reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
    money,
    and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not right wing.
    It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who used to be >>>> in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from within >>>> by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain
    with
    Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the Guardian >>>> for all that. They are however lying to you about climate change,
    immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in general
    anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will >>>> fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what reason
    would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...



    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk on Thu Dec 28 17:15:21 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:02:06 +0000, Colin Bignell
    <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell
    <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:

    'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
    problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.'

    I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports >>> right wing views.

    What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
    concerned about the vaccines. ...

    I agree that there are nutters everywhere, but the point being discussed
    was political leanings of that particular site.

    Er, no. What was being discussed was the emerging link between mRNA
    vaccines and cancer (see the subject line!) It was you and "Steve" who
    as usual were attempting your usual Marxist tactic of diverting the
    thread into something completely different.

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  • From GB@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Thu Dec 28 17:19:40 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 17:13, Cursitor Doom wrote:


    Wrong as ever, my antipodean friend. Bowel cancer actually - which had
    been successfully treated until he had his covid jab. Flared up again
    shortly after. Poor bastard.


    I can well understand that people with cancer unfortunately die. The
    time of their dying may coincide with other things. Christmas, for
    example. Some people with cancer die soon after Christmas, but only an
    utter lunatic would claim that Christmas causes cancer to flare up.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From GB@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Thu Dec 28 17:26:25 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 17:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Er, no. What was being discussed was the emerging link between mRNA
    vaccines and cancer

    There's no emerging link, just a fringe article in a non-scientific
    magazine. When you have some worthwhile evidence, there'll be something
    to discuss.

    The medical and scientific professions are happy to keep an open mind
    about mRNA vaccines, but they need evidence to work on. How about you
    also keeping an open mind?

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to All on Thu Dec 28 17:44:11 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 17:19, GB wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 17:13, Cursitor Doom wrote:


    Wrong as ever, my antipodean friend. Bowel cancer actually - which had
    been successfully treated until he had his covid jab. Flared up again
    shortly after. Poor bastard.


    I can well understand that people with cancer unfortunately die. The
    time of their dying may coincide with other things. Christmas, for
    example. Some people with cancer die soon after Christmas, but only an
    utter lunatic would claim that Christmas causes cancer to flare up.


    I think you could probably get a government grant to investigate that, especially if you linked it to 'climate change'.



    --
    "First, find out who are the people you can not criticise. They are your oppressors."
    - George Orwell

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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Thu Dec 28 17:42:27 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 17:13, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 04:02:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 29 Dec 2023 01:10:27 +1100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
    concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
    dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
    time later.

    It was the prostate cancer that killed him, not the vaccination.

    Wrong as ever, my antipodean friend. Bowel cancer actually - which had
    been successfully treated until he had his covid jab. Flared up again
    shortly after. Poor bastard.

    My friend died of bowel cancer in 2017 but that was before Covid.

    Another friend died of it back in 2013.

    I think you are the only fruitcake who has ever claimed a link between
    Covid vaccinations and bowel cancer recurrence.

    You will be telling me there is a link between CO2 emissions and
    climate, next,

    --
    Any fool can believe in principles - and most of them do!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Colin Bignell@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Thu Dec 28 17:45:22 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 17:15, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:02:06 +0000, Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell
    <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:

    'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day >>>> problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.'

    I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports >>>> right wing views.

    What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
    concerned about the vaccines. ...

    I agree that there are nutters everywhere, but the point being discussed
    was political leanings of that particular site.

    Er, no. What was being discussed was the emerging link between mRNA
    vaccines and cancer (see the subject line!) It was you and "Steve" who
    as usual were attempting your usual Marxist tactic of diverting the
    thread into something completely different.

    The reality of Usenet is that threads diverge into other areas,
    particularly, as in this case, they start with total rubbish.


    --
    Colin Bignell

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bill.sloman@ieee.org on Thu Dec 28 20:06:21 2023
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 06:04:48 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 10:05:03?PM UTC+11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, the
    qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from conspiracy -
    most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their salaries,
    most career scientists and technologists are right wing, because they
    know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what
    position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan
    sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she listens to the BBC and
    reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed).

    This is typical rightard nonsense. The difference between left wingers and right-winger is that left-wingers think that society can changed to make it work better, and right-wingers think that most change is for the worse, so they prefer as little as
    they can get away with.

    Academics are aware of how much society has changed, mostly for the better, while career scientists and technologists concentrate on the stuff they can change, and don't want to have to pay attention to anything they don't have under their control.

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making money,
    and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement.

    Only in the rightard propganda rags.

    It's not right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the people who used to be in the Communist party.

    Anybody who "used to be be in the Communist Party" is so old now that most of them are dead. I know one survivor, and he's neither anti-science or anti-vax. He's actually a reader at Edinburgh University, and perfectly sensible.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from within
    by telling tales about its government.

    Rightards do a lot of that. Donald trump is a prime example

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.

    But taken out of context.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain with
    Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the Guardian
    for all that. They are however lying to you about climate change,
    immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and in general
    anything they take a political stance on.

    Not that I've noticed. Rightards don't seem to understand the scientific basis of climate change, and are qullible suckers for the lyig propaganda that claims that it is happening (and the people making money out of digging up fossil carbon and selling
    it as fuel can keep on making money that way).
    The same people tell that you that burning fossil carbon delivers cheaper energy that renewable sources, though this stopped being ture more than a decade ago.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we will
    fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what reason
    would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...

    UKIP was an attention-getting device use by Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson to get them the column inches they craved.

    Nobody should have taken either of those clowns seriously, and the consequences have been pretty horrible. The UK was in a customs union with it's major trading partners and now it isn't. Silly move.

    The UK was in an undemocratic political union submerged with 26 other
    countries and now it isn't. Good move.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Fri Dec 29 00:51:30 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 12/28/2023 9:10 AM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:

    'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
    problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.' >>
    I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports
    right wing views.

    What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
    concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
    dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
    time later.

    The US right seems to have appropriated some areas that were largely
    leftist territory 30 years ago.

    The US left has appropriated (more like re-engaged) with some ideas
    about threats to liberty i.e. that police opening fire on citizens on
    the regular isn't great for their liberty.

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Dec 29 09:08:03 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    In article <kv7fmmF94e5U2@mid.individual.net>,
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Cursitor Doom wrote:

    I recall Dave Plowman being equally dismissive and contemptuous
    before the clot-shot killed him a short time later.

    Is plowcunt dead?

    No I don't think so; I realised he'd not posted here since the start of
    May, and I've never noticed him post in any other groups I use, but when
    I mentioned it here, someone else said that they'd spoken to him
    elsewhere online (a car or broadcast forum perhaps?)

    I had him killfiled so I never noticed. And how did
    you know what he died of?

    I had an email from him timed at 00.26 this morning.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Fri Dec 29 08:52:38 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    The Natural Philosopher wrote:

    Cursitor Doom wrote:

    I recall Dave Plowman being equally dismissive and contemptuous
    before the clot-shot killed him a short time later.

    Is plowcunt dead?

    No I don't think so; I realised he'd not posted here since the start of
    May, and I've never noticed him post in any other groups I use, but when
    I mentioned it here, someone else said that they'd spoken to him
    elsewhere online (a car or broadcast forum perhaps?)

    I had him killfiled so I never noticed. And how did
    you know what he died of?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tim Streater@21:1/5 to bitrex on Fri Dec 29 10:16:10 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 29 Dec 2023 at 05:51:30 GMT, "bitrex" <user@example.net> wrote:

    The US left has appropriated (more like re-engaged) with some ideas
    about threats to liberty i.e. that police opening fire on citizens on
    the regular isn't great for their liberty.

    You mean "e.g.", not "i.e."

    The problem the Yanks have is the number of separate police departments. In this country we have 43 oe E&W, one for NI, one for the Scots. So a total of 45. Yank population is five times ours so you might expect them to have say 250. The actual number is well over 15,000.

    This is because any tuppeny-ha'penny jurisdiction is allowed to "incorporate" (whatever that may mean), call itself a "city", have a mayor and police chief, etc. So Mr Hiram Q Globetrotter, who fancies himself as law-n-order
    specialist, gets elected as Sheriff on the same political ticket as the Mayor, hires a couple of hayseeds as deppities, and whoopee! He can now have anyone shot who is "trying to escape". Not bad, eh?

    --
    "Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do." -- Bigby Wolf

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  • From Andrew@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Fri Dec 29 18:00:55 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 28/12/2023 14:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:

    'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
    problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.' >>
    I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports
    right wing views.

    What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
    concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
    dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
    time later.



    Did it ?. I wondered what happened to him.

    He did actually have prostate cancer, and quite advanced
    from what I remember, so I think it is more likely that that
    was his real medical problem.

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to Andrew on Fri Dec 29 18:30:10 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    In article <umn1gm$tqm0$1@dont-email.me>,
    Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 14:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:

    'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day
    problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.'

    I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports >> right wing views.

    What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
    time later.



    Did it ?. I wondered what happened to him.

    he's still alive. I exchanged emails withnhim in the last 24 hours.

    He did actually have prostate cancer, and quite advanced
    from what I remember, so I think it is more likely that that
    was his real medical problem.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Tim Streater@21:1/5 to charles on Fri Dec 29 18:48:44 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 29 Dec 2023 at 18:30:10 GMT, "charles" <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

    In article <umn1gm$tqm0$1@dont-email.me>,
    Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 14:10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 13:03:49 +0000, Colin Bignell
    <cpb@bignellREMOVETHIS.me.uk> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 11:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    Google Conservative Woman and this description of the site pops up:

    'We advocate for conservatism, the only rational response to modern day >>>> problems; we challenge leftism wherever it lurks and threatens our liberty.'

    I think most people would see that as a statement that the site supports >>>> right wing views.

    What does that matter? There are people on the Left who are equally
    concerned about the vaccines. I recall Dave Plowman being equally
    dismissive and contemptuous before the clot-shot killed him a short
    time later.



    Did it ?. I wondered what happened to him.

    he's still alive. I exchanged emails withnhim in the last 24 hours.

    So the reports of his death are greatly exaggerated. Good.

    --
    "Hard" and "Soft" Brexit are code words for Leaving or Staying in the EU, rather than for the terms of our departure.

    Jacob Rees-Mogg MP

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bill.sloman@ieee.org on Fri Dec 29 19:21:37 2023
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 19:22:30 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 7:06:28?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 06:04:48 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman
    <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 10:05:03?PM UTC+11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com> wrote:

    <snip>

    Look at UKIP...

    UKIP was an attention-getting device use by Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson to get them the column inches they craved.

    Nobody should have taken either of those clowns seriously, and the consequences have been pretty horrible. The UK was in a customs union with it's major trading partners and now it isn't. Silly move.

    The UK was in an undemocratic political union submerged with 26 other countries and now it isn't. Good move.

    The UK was in a customs union with most of its major trading partners and now it isn't. A disastrous economic error.

    The European Union has an ambition to become a democratically run political union, but while it has a democratically elected parliament that sits in Strasbourg, that hasn't got any power at all, and it all works by negotiation between nation states.
    The UK wasn't as submerged as it should have been - it still thought that it had. an empire.

    Nonsense, Bill. Economic growth is currently higher in the UK than in
    Germany - even with the worst government Britain's had in the last 50
    years, the country's still doing better than Germany.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Dec 31 15:34:04 2023
    On 30/12/2023 6:21 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 19:22:30 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 7:06:28?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 06:04:48 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman
    <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 10:05:03?PM UTC+11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com> wrote:

    <snip>

    Look at UKIP...

    UKIP was an attention-getting device use by Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson to get them the column inches they craved.

    Nobody should have taken either of those clowns seriously, and the consequences have been pretty horrible. The UK was in a customs union with it's major trading partners and now it isn't. Silly move.

    The UK was in an undemocratic political union submerged with 26 other countries and now it isn't. Good move.

    The UK was in a customs union with most of its major trading partners and now it isn't. A disastrous economic error.

    The European Union has an ambition to become a democratically run political union, but while it has a democratically elected parliament that sits in Strasbourg, that hasn't got any power at all, and it all works by negotiation between nation states.
    The UK wasn't as submerged as it should have been - it still thought that it had. an empire.

    Nonsense, Bill. Economic growth is currently higher in the UK than in
    Germany - even with the worst government Britain's had in the last 50
    years, the country's still doing better than Germany.

    With the conservative party in charge of the department that publishes
    the statistics, you can expect them to be saying that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage

    The average monthly wage in the UK is 3138 euro.
    In Germany it is 4625 euro.

    The UK may be catching up - at the moment - but it is a long way behind.

    Germany has been investing more per worker for a very long time. Back
    when Thatcher was being rude about the productivity of UK workers,
    somebody checked out productivity as function of capital investment per worker,and the UK workers backed up by German levels of capital
    investment were more productive than their German counterparts - but
    there weren't many of them. UK capitalist didn't like investing money in
    making their workers more productive and only did it when there was a
    lot of money to be made.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Steve@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Sun Dec 31 16:21:44 2023
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth,
    the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from
    conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their
    salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing,
    because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their
    salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid
    leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you
    read' (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can
    be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
    money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not
    right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the
    people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from
    within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain
    with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the
    Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate
    change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and
    in general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we
    will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what
    reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...



    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?

    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Dec 31 17:46:58 2023
    On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 15:34:04 +1100, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
    wrote:

    On 30/12/2023 6:21 am, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 19:22:30 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman
    <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On Friday, December 29, 2023 at 7:06:28?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>>> On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 06:04:48 -0800 (PST), Anthony William Sloman
    <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Thursday, December 28, 2023 at 10:05:03?PM UTC+11, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com> wrote:

    <snip>

    Look at UKIP...

    UKIP was an attention-getting device use by Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson to get them the column inches they craved.

    Nobody should have taken either of those clowns seriously, and the consequences have been pretty horrible. The UK was in a customs union with it's major trading partners and now it isn't. Silly move.

    The UK was in an undemocratic political union submerged with 26 other countries and now it isn't. Good move.

    The UK was in a customs union with most of its major trading partners and now it isn't. A disastrous economic error.

    The European Union has an ambition to become a democratically run political union, but while it has a democratically elected parliament that sits in Strasbourg, that hasn't got any power at all, and it all works by negotiation between nation states.
    The UK wasn't as submerged as it should have been - it still thought that it had. an empire.

    Nonsense, Bill. Economic growth is currently higher in the UK than in
    Germany - even with the worst government Britain's had in the last 50
    years, the country's still doing better than Germany.

    With the conservative party in charge of the department that publishes
    the statistics, you can expect them to be saying that.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_average_wage

    The average monthly wage in the UK is 3138 euro.
    In Germany it is 4625 euro.

    Good grief, Bill, you're not even quoting your source correctly. And
    your source (the usual suspect) has nonsense figures anyway!

    The UK may be catching up - at the moment - but it is a long way behind.

    Germany has been investing more per worker for a very long time. Back
    when Thatcher was being rude about the productivity of UK workers,
    somebody checked out productivity as function of capital investment per >worker,and the UK workers backed up by German levels of capital
    investment were more productive than their German counterparts - but
    there weren't many of them. UK capitalist didn't like investing money in
    making their workers more productive and only did it when there was a
    lot of money to be made.

    I'll grant you that. There was some terrible management around in the
    70s and 80s in the UK. They'd spend most of the working day in the pub
    drinking astronomical amounts of alcohol. I think that's no longer the
    case, thankfully.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Steve on Mon Jan 1 12:48:01 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth,
    the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from
    conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their
    salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing,
    because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their
    salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid
    leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you
    read' (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can
    be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
    money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not
    right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the
    people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from
    within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain
    with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the
    Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate
    change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and
    in general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we
    will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what
    reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...



    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?

    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't interested
    in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and faux logic.

    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?






    --
    “A leader is best When people barely know he exists. Of a good leader,
    who talks little,When his work is done, his aim fulfilled,They will say,
    “We did this ourselves.”

    ― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Steve@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Mon Jan 1 16:29:44 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 12:48:01 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth,
    the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from
    conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their
    salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right
    wing, because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay
    their salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely
    so candid leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites
    you read' (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she
    can be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
    money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not
    right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the
    people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from
    within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact
    *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your
    brain with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC
    and the Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you
    about climate change, immigration, economics, renewable energy
    and net zero, and in general anything they take a political
    stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we
    will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*,
    what reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...



    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?

    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't
    interested in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and
    faux logic.

    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?


    Ooooh, a tetchy turnip.

    I'll take that as an emphatic no.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tim Streater@21:1/5 to Fredxx on Mon Jan 1 16:39:07 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 01 Jan 2024 at 16:33:21 GMT, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:

    On 01/01/2024 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.
    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth,
    the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from
    conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their
    salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, >>>>>> because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their
    salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid >>>>>> leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you
    read' (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can
    be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
    money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not
    right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the
    people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from
    within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*. >>>>>>
    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain >>>>>> with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the >>>>>> Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate >>>>>> change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and >>>>>> in general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we
    will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what >>>>>> reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...


    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?
    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't interested
    in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and faux logic.

    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?

    Is that a 'no'?

    You block everyone who can put together a cohesive argument that
    counters yours.

    coherent is probably the word you are looking for.

    --
    Lady Astor: "If you were my husband I'd give you poison."
    Churchill: "If you were my wife, I'd drink it."

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Mon Jan 1 16:33:21 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 01/01/2024 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.
    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth,
    the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from
    conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their
    salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing,
    because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their
    salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid
    leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you
    read'  (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can
    be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
    money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not
    right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the
    people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from
    within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain
    with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the
    Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate
    change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and
    in general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we
    will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*,  what
    reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...


    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?
    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't interested
    in debate, to learn -  only to win through sophistry and faux logic.

    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?

    Is that a 'no'?

    You block everyone who can put together a cohesive argument that
    counters yours.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Tim Streater on Mon Jan 1 18:45:08 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 01/01/2024 16:39, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 01 Jan 2024 at 16:33:21 GMT, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:

    On 01/01/2024 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.
    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, >>>>>>> the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from
    conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their
    salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, >>>>>>> because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their >>>>>>> salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid >>>>>>> leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you
    read' (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can >>>>>>> be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making >>>>>>> money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not >>>>>>> right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the
    people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from >>>>>>> within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*. >>>>>>>
    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain >>>>>>> with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the >>>>>>> Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate >>>>>>> change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and >>>>>>> in general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we >>>>>>> will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what >>>>>>> reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...


    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?
    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't interested >>> in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and faux logic.

    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?

    Is that a 'no'?

    You block everyone who can put together a cohesive argument that
    counters yours.

    coherent is probably the word you are looking for.


    Left wing arseholes are traditionally ill educated.

    --
    “The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to
    fill the world with fools.”

    Herbert Spencer

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to Steve on Mon Jan 1 18:44:01 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 01/01/2024 16:29, Steve wrote:
    On Mon, 1 Jan 2024 12:48:01 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.

    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth,
    the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from
    conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their
    salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right
    wing, because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay
    their salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely
    so candid leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites
    you read' (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she
    can be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making
    money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not
    right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the
    people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from
    within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact
    *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your
    brain with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC
    and the Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you
    about climate change, immigration, economics, renewable energy
    and net zero, and in general anything they take a political
    stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we
    will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*,
    what reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...



    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?

    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't
    interested in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and
    faux logic.

    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?


    Ooooh, a tetchy turnip.

    I'll take that as an emphatic no.


    I'll take that as a yes, then
    Disgusting


    --
    “The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to
    fill the world with fools.”

    Herbert Spencer

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From charles@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Mon Jan 1 21:08:17 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    In article <umv17k$2a28c$2@dont-email.me>,
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 01/01/2024 16:39, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 01 Jan 2024 at 16:33:21 GMT, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:

    On 01/01/2024 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.
    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, >>>>>>> the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from >>>>>>> conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their >>>>>>> salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, >>>>>>> because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their >>>>>>> salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid >>>>>>> leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you
    read' (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can >>>>>>> be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making >>>>>>> money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not >>>>>>> right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the
    people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from >>>>>>> within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*. >>>>>>>
    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain >>>>>>> with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the >>>>>>> Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate >>>>>>> change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and >>>>>>> in general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we >>>>>>> will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what >>>>>>> reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...


    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?
    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't interested >>> in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and faux logic.

    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?

    Is that a 'no'?

    You block everyone who can put together a cohesive argument that
    counters yours.

    coherent is probably the word you are looking for.


    Left wing arseholes are traditionally ill educated.

    Tam Dalyell went Eton and then Cambridge.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com on Mon Jan 1 15:11:06 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 09:27:08 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 03:39:07 +1100, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk>
    wrote:

    On 01 Jan 2024 at 16:33:21 GMT, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:

    On 01/01/2024 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.
    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, >>>>>>>> the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from >>>>>>>> conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their >>>>>>>> salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, >>>>>>>> because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their >>>>>>>> salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid >>>>>>>> leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you
    read' (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can >>>>>>>> be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making >>>>>>>> money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not >>>>>>>> right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the
    people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from >>>>>>>> within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*. >>>>>>>>
    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain >>>>>>>> with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the >>>>>>>> Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate >>>>>>>> change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and >>>>>>>> in general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we >>>>>>>> will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what >>>>>>>> reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...


    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?
    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't
    interested
    in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and faux logic.

    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?

    Is that a 'no'?

    You block everyone who can put together a cohesive argument that
    counters yours.

    coherent is probably the word you are looking for.

    Not if its a shit of an argument


    Children! Behave yourselves!

    If you want to squabble, see who can design the best electronics.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to charles on Mon Jan 1 23:28:56 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 01/01/2024 21:08, charles wrote:
    In article <umv17k$2a28c$2@dont-email.me>,
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 01/01/2024 16:39, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 01 Jan 2024 at 16:33:21 GMT, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:

    On 01/01/2024 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.
    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, >>>>>>>>> the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from >>>>>>>>> conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their >>>>>>>>> salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right wing, >>>>>>>>> because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their >>>>>>>>> salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so candid >>>>>>>>> leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you
    read' (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can >>>>>>>>> be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making >>>>>>>>> money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not >>>>>>>>> right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the >>>>>>>>> people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from >>>>>>>>> within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact *true*. >>>>>>>>>
    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your brain >>>>>>>>> with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and the >>>>>>>>> Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about climate >>>>>>>>> change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, and >>>>>>>>> in general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we >>>>>>>>> will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, what >>>>>>>>> reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...


    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?
    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't interested >>>>> in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and faux logic. >>>>>
    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?

    Is that a 'no'?

    You block everyone who can put together a cohesive argument that
    counters yours.

    coherent is probably the word you are looking for.


    Left wing arseholes are traditionally ill educated.

    Tam Dalyell went Eton and then Cambridge.

    Shame he never learnt from the experience. He was, in my direct
    experience, a total shit.

    --
    “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false face for the
    urge to rule it.”
    – H. L. Mencken

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Tue Jan 2 14:26:18 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 2/01/2024 10:11 am, John Larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 09:27:08 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 03:39:07 +1100, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk>
    wrote:

    On 01 Jan 2024 at 16:33:21 GMT, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:

    On 01/01/2024 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:

    <snip>

    Children! Behave yourselves!

    If you want to squabble, see who can design the best electronics.

    Not a competition that John Larkin would take part in, unless he was
    convinced that he would win it, and he'd do a Trump if he didn't.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com on Mon Jan 1 19:19:03 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 12:12:40 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 10:11:06 +1100, John Larkin <jl@997pothill.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 09:27:08 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 03:39:07 +1100, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk>
    wrote:

    On 01 Jan 2024 at 16:33:21 GMT, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:

    On 01/01/2024 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.
    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some depth, >>>>>>>>>> the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from >>>>>>>>>> conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their >>>>>>>>>> salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right >>>>>>>>>> wing,
    because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay their >>>>>>>>>> salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so >>>>>>>>>> candid
    leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you
    read' (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she can >>>>>>>>>> be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists making >>>>>>>>>> money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's not >>>>>>>>>> right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the >>>>>>>>>> people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy from >>>>>>>>>> within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact >>>>>>>>>> *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your >>>>>>>>>> brain
    with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and >>>>>>>>>> the
    Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about >>>>>>>>>> climate
    change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, >>>>>>>>>> and
    in general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and we >>>>>>>>>> will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, >>>>>>>>>> what
    reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...


    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?
    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't
    interested
    in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and faux logic. >>>>>>
    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?

    Is that a 'no'?

    You block everyone who can put together a cohesive argument that
    counters yours.

    coherent is probably the word you are looking for.

    Not if its a shit of an argument


    Children! Behave yourselves!

    If you want to squabble, see who can design the best electronics.

    Go and fuck yourself, again.

    Gosh, you can't even design original insults. Electronics is way out
    of your league.

    There is about a 100% negative correlation between electronic design
    talent and foul, crude behavior. That makes perfect sense.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From charles@21:1/5 to tnp@invalid.invalid on Tue Jan 2 08:00:11 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    In article <umvhro$2c854$1@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 01/01/2024 21:08, charles wrote:
    In article <umv17k$2a28c$2@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
    <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 01/01/2024 16:39, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 01 Jan 2024 at 16:33:21 GMT, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:

    On 01/01/2024 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000 The Natural Philosopher
    <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000 The Natural Philosopher
    <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000 Cursitor Doom
    <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab? Anyone still >>>>>>>>>>> convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.
    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some >>>>>>>>> depth, the qualifications to distinguish reasonable
    explanations from conspiracy - most academics are left wing, >>>>>>>>> because the gummint pays their salaries, most career scientists >>>>>>>>> and technologosts are right wing, because they know what works >>>>>>>>> - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what position >>>>>>>>> you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan >>>>>>>>> sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she listens to the >>>>>>>>> BBC and reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed). >>>>>>>>>
    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists >>>>>>>>> making money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. >>>>>>>>> It's not right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring >>>>>>>>> by the people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy >>>>>>>>> from within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact >>>>>>>>> *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your >>>>>>>>> brain with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the >>>>>>>>> BBC and the Guardian for all that. They are however lying to >>>>>>>>> you about climate change, immigration, economics, renewable >>>>>>>>> energy and net zero, and in general anything they take a
    political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and >>>>>>>>> we will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, >>>>>>>>> what reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...


    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?
    I don't answer leading questions. When did you stop fucking your >>>>>>> pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't
    interested in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and >>>>> faux logic.

    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?

    Is that a 'no'?

    You block everyone who can put together a cohesive argument that
    counters yours.

    coherent is probably the word you are looking for.


    Left wing arseholes are traditionally ill educated.

    Tam Dalyell went Eton and then Cambridge.

    Shame he never learnt from the experience. He was, in my direct
    experience, a total shit.

    so, you actually met him?

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From charles@21:1/5 to The Natural Philosopher on Tue Jan 2 11:00:10 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    In article <un0p3c$2kn1n$1@dont-email.me>,
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 02/01/2024 08:00, charles wrote:
    In article <umvhro$2c854$1@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 01/01/2024 21:08, charles wrote:
    In article <umv17k$2a28c$2@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
    <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 01/01/2024 16:39, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 01 Jan 2024 at 16:33:21 GMT, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>
    On 01/01/2024 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000 The Natural Philosopher
    <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000 The Natural Philosopher >>>>>>>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000 Cursitor Doom
    <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab? Anyone still >>>>>>>>>>>>> convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.
    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some >>>>>>>>>>> depth, the qualifications to distinguish reasonable
    explanations from conspiracy - most academics are left wing, >>>>>>>>>>> because the gummint pays their salaries, most career scientists >>>>>>>>>>> and technologosts are right wing, because they know what works >>>>>>>>>>> - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what position >>>>>>>>>>> you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan >>>>>>>>>>> sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she listens to the >>>>>>>>>>> BBC and reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed). >>>>>>>>>>>
    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists >>>>>>>>>>> making money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. >>>>>>>>>>> It's not right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring >>>>>>>>>>> by the people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy >>>>>>>>>>> from within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact >>>>>>>>>>> *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your >>>>>>>>>>> brain with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the >>>>>>>>>>> BBC and the Guardian for all that. They are however lying to >>>>>>>>>>> you about climate change, immigration, economics, renewable >>>>>>>>>>> energy and net zero, and in general anything they take a >>>>>>>>>>> political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and >>>>>>>>>>> we will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, >>>>>>>>>>> what reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...


    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?
    I don't answer leading questions. When did you stop fucking your >>>>>>>>> pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't
    interested in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and >>>>>>> faux logic.

    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?

    Is that a 'no'?

    You block everyone who can put together a cohesive argument that >>>>>> counters yours.

    coherent is probably the word you are looking for.


    Left wing arseholes are traditionally ill educated.

    Tam Dalyell went Eton and then Cambridge.

    Shame he never learnt from the experience. He was, in my direct
    experience, a total shit.

    so, you actually met him?

    Not me. friend had extensive dealings with him. Tam encouraged him to
    blow the whistle on his employers, which information Tam used to enhance
    his career,

    Did Tam ever rise above being a back-bench MP?

    whilst my friend got the sack and was made unemployable.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England - sent from my RISC OS 4t
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From The Natural Philosopher@21:1/5 to charles on Tue Jan 2 10:38:36 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 02/01/2024 08:00, charles wrote:
    In article <umvhro$2c854$1@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 01/01/2024 21:08, charles wrote:
    In article <umv17k$2a28c$2@dont-email.me>, The Natural Philosopher
    <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 01/01/2024 16:39, Tim Streater wrote:
    On 01 Jan 2024 at 16:33:21 GMT, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>
    On 01/01/2024 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000 The Natural Philosopher
    <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000 The Natural Philosopher >>>>>>>>>> <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000 Cursitor Doom
    <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab? Anyone still >>>>>>>>>>>>> convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.
    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some >>>>>>>>>>> depth, the qualifications to distinguish reasonable
    explanations from conspiracy - most academics are left wing, >>>>>>>>>>> because the gummint pays their salaries, most career scientists >>>>>>>>>>> and technologosts are right wing, because they know what works >>>>>>>>>>> - and the gummint doesn't pay their salaries - what position >>>>>>>>>>> you take depends ( as my rarely so candid leftard green vegan >>>>>>>>>>> sister remark 'on which websites you read' (she listens to the >>>>>>>>>>> BBC and reads the Guardian so she can be well misinformed). >>>>>>>>>>>
    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists >>>>>>>>>>> making money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. >>>>>>>>>>> It's not right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring >>>>>>>>>>> by the people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy >>>>>>>>>>> from within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact >>>>>>>>>>> *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your >>>>>>>>>>> brain with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the >>>>>>>>>>> BBC and the Guardian for all that. They are however lying to >>>>>>>>>>> you about climate change, immigration, economics, renewable >>>>>>>>>>> energy and net zero, and in general anything they take a >>>>>>>>>>> political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and >>>>>>>>>>> we will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, >>>>>>>>>>> what reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...


    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?
    I don't answer leading questions. When did you stop fucking your >>>>>>>>> pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't
    interested in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and >>>>>>> faux logic.

    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?

    Is that a 'no'?

    You block everyone who can put together a cohesive argument that
    counters yours.

    coherent is probably the word you are looking for.


    Left wing arseholes are traditionally ill educated.

    Tam Dalyell went Eton and then Cambridge.

    Shame he never learnt from the experience. He was, in my direct
    experience, a total shit.

    so, you actually met him?

    Not me. friend had extensive dealings with him. Tam encouraged him to
    blow the whistle on his employers, which information Tam used to enhance
    his career, whilst my friend got the sack and was made unemployable.


    --
    Any fool can believe in principles - and most of them do!

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  • From Fredxx@21:1/5 to Rod Speed on Tue Jan 2 10:58:59 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On 02/01/2024 04:01, Rod Speed wrote:
    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 14:19:03 +1100, John Larkin <jl@997pothill.com> wrote:

    <snip>

    Electronics is way out  of your league.

    There you go, face down in the fucking mud, as always.

    Done a hell of a lot more of that than you have ever done, thanks.

    What do you have in mind?

    I haven't seen any evidence of you doing anything constructive, simply resorting to abuse when your shortcomings are exposed.

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com on Tue Jan 2 08:19:05 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 15:01:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 14:19:03 +1100, John Larkin <jl@997pothill.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 12:12:40 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 10:11:06 +1100, John Larkin <jl@997pothill.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 09:27:08 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 03:39:07 +1100, Tim Streater <tim@streater.me.uk> >>>>> wrote:

    On 01 Jan 2024 at 16:33:21 GMT, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 01/01/2024 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.
    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some >>>>>>>>>>>> depth,
    the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations from >>>>>>>>>>>> conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays their >>>>>>>>>>>> salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right >>>>>>>>>>>> wing,
    because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay >>>>>>>>>>>> their
    salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so >>>>>>>>>>>> candid
    leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you >>>>>>>>>>>> read' (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she >>>>>>>>>>>> can
    be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists >>>>>>>>>>>> making
    money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's >>>>>>>>>>>> not
    right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the >>>>>>>>>>>> people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy >>>>>>>>>>>> from
    within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact >>>>>>>>>>>> *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your >>>>>>>>>>>> brain
    with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC and >>>>>>>>>>>> the
    Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about >>>>>>>>>>>> climate
    change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net zero, >>>>>>>>>>>> and
    in general anything they take a political stance on.

    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us and >>>>>>>>>>>> we
    will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, >>>>>>>>>>>> what
    reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...


    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?
    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't
    interested
    in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and faux
    logic.

    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?

    Is that a 'no'?

    You block everyone who can put together a cohesive argument that >>>>>>> counters yours.

    coherent is probably the word you are looking for.

    Not if its a shit of an argument


    Children! Behave yourselves!

    If you want to squabble, see who can design the best electronics.

    Go and fuck yourself, again.

    Gosh, you can't even design original insults.

    You don't qualify for an original insult.

    Plenty of others have done.

    Electronics is way out of your league.

    There you go, face down in the fucking mud, as always.

    Done a hell of a lot more of that than you have ever done, thanks.

    Show is a cool circuit that you have designed, and we'll have a
    friendly discussion about it.

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com on Tue Jan 2 09:59:39 2024
    XPost: uk.d-i-y

    On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 04:35:40 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 03 Jan 2024 03:19:05 +1100, John Larkin <jl@997pothill.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 15:01:44 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 14:19:03 +1100, John Larkin <jl@997pothill.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 12:12:40 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 10:11:06 +1100, John Larkin <jl@997pothill.com>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 09:27:08 +1100, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 02 Jan 2024 03:39:07 +1100, Tim Streater
    <tim@streater.me.uk>
    wrote:

    On 01 Jan 2024 at 16:33:21 GMT, "Fredxx" <fredxx@spam.invalid> >>>>>>>> wrote:

    On 01/01/2024 12:48, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
    On 31/12/2023 16:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 16:49:04 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/12/2023 14:08, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 11:04:56 +0000
    The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 28/12/2023 08:21, Steve wrote:
    On Thu, 28 Dec 2023 00:54:57 +0000
    Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> wrote:
    Thinking about getting a Covid booster jab?
    Anyone still convinced Covid arose naturally?

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/mrna-vaccines-must-be-banned-once-and-for-all/

    Righttarded fruitcake.
    No, just a fruitcake.

    The problem is that without a scientific education in some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> depth,
    the qualifications to distinguish reasonable explanations >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
    conspiracy
    - most academics are left wing, because the gummint pays >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
    salaries, most career scientists and technologosts are right >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wing,
    because they know what works - and the gummint doesn't pay >>>>>>>>>>>>>> their
    salaries - what position you take depends ( as my rarely so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> candid
    leftard green vegan sister remark 'on which websites you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> read' (she listens to the BBC and reads the Guardian so she >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
    be well misinformed).

    Toss in some Marxist rhetoric against the evil capitalists >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making
    money, and you have the Anti-Science anti-Vax movement. It's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
    right wing. It's not left wing, Its just shit stirring by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who used to be in the Communist party.

    De-stabilisation is what its called. Destroying a democracy >>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
    within by telling tales about its government.

    The tragedy is that many of them (but not all) are in fact >>>>>>>>>>>>>> *true*.

    E.g the gummint aren't injecting mind control chips into your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> brain
    with Covid vaccines, they don't need to. They have the BBC >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
    the
    Guardian for all that. They are however lying to you about >>>>>>>>>>>>>> climate
    change, immigration, economics, renewable energy and net >>>>>>>>>>>>>> zero,
    and
    in general anything they take a political stance on. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    If you think about it, if a political party said 'elect us >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
    we
    will fix this serious problem ' and you did, *and they did*, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
    reason would they have to exist any more?

    Look at UKIP...


    Do you never tire of typing strident cobblers?
    I don't answer leading questions.
    When did you stop fucking your pet rabbit?

    (shades of Simply Red's 'Bunny's too tight to mention' @ >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f95vD0EdyXg )



    I'll take that as a no.

    Which further reinforces your reputation as someone who isn't >>>>>>>>>> interested
    in debate, to learn - only to win through sophistry and faux >>>>>>>>>> logic.

    So you are still fucking your pet rabbit, then?

    Is that a 'no'?

    You block everyone who can put together a cohesive argument that >>>>>>>>> counters yours.

    coherent is probably the word you are looking for.

    Not if its a shit of an argument


    Children! Behave yourselves!

    If you want to squabble, see who can design the best electronics.

    Go and fuck yourself, again.

    Gosh, you can't even design original insults.

    You don't qualify for an original insult.

    Plenty of others have done.

    Electronics is way out of your league.

    There you go, face down in the fucking mud, as always.

    Done a hell of a lot more of that than you have ever done, thanks.

    Show is a cool circuit that you have designed, and we'll have a
    friendly discussion about it.

    Go and fuck yourself, again.

    Firing blanks, as suspected.

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