They're heading for well in excess of 2oC warming by 2050. The cost of transitioning to renewables is small compared to all the
losses the global economy is in for.
Report, written by business analysts and not climate scientists, with sector by sector breakdown:
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/storm-hitting-chinese-ports-is-wakeup-call-climate-risk-mark
ets-2023-12-11/
On a sunny day (Tue, 12 Dec 2023 04:17:05 -0800 (PST)) it happened Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote in <0cc41eef-aef3-4126-850e-d5e466187cd5n@googlegroups.com>:
They're heading for well in excess of 2oC warming by 2050. The cost of transitioning to renewables is small compared to all the
losses the global economy is in for.
Report, written by business analysts and not climate scientists, with sector by sector breakdown:
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/sustainable-finance-reporting/storm-hitting-chinese-ports-is-wakeup-call-climate-risk-mark
ets-2023-12-11/
Climate WILL change, mass migration will happen
We need ALL forms of energy to hold out for as long as we can.
The kids bull about renewables and 1.5 degrees C is just that
destroying what we build.
Al Gore sales crap.
The current hoopla about cimate change is just a ploy to gather money.
Jeroen Belleman
Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
The current hoopla about cimate change is just a ploy to gather money.
Jeroen Belleman
Who gathers it and how?
On 12/12/23 14:54, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:
Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
The current hoopla about cimate change is just a ploy to gather money.
Jeroen Belleman
Who gathers it and how?
Well, Al Gore does, for one. But this barb aside, the overall
picture is far too complicated for a finite Usenet article.
(Unless your name is Don. Sorry, couldn't resist that quip.)
As one example, energy is made more expensive by the combined
effects of additional taxes, calls for action from climate
activists, public money (ab)used to fund projects of questionable
efficacy, propaganda and politics, and that ripples through
to everything else. The end consumer pays the tag and every
intermediary takes a share of the proceeds.
Jeroen Belleman
Who gathers it and how?
Well, Al Gore does, for one. But this barb aside, the overall
picture is far too complicated for a finite Usenet article.
(Unless your name is Don. Sorry, couldn't resist that quip.)
As one example, energy is made more expensive by the combined
effects of additional taxes, calls for action from climate
activists, public money (ab)used to fund projects of questionable
efficacy, propaganda and politics, and that ripples through
to everything else. The end consumer pays the tag and every
intermediary takes a share of the proceeds.
Jeroen Belleman
Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
Who gathers it and how?
Well, Al Gore does, for one. But this barb aside, the overall
picture is far too complicated for a finite Usenet article.
(Unless your name is Don. Sorry, couldn't resist that quip.)
As one example, energy is made more expensive by the combined
effects of additional taxes, calls for action from climate
activists, public money (ab)used to fund projects of questionable
efficacy, propaganda and politics, and that ripples through
to everything else. The end consumer pays the tag and every
intermediary takes a share of the proceeds.
Jeroen Belleman
The United Arab Emirates, one of the leading oil eporters, says you are >wrong. Quote:
"Delegates at the COP28 international climate summit agreed Wednesday to
move away from fossil fuel consumption in a first-of-its-kind deal
signaling the possible end of the oil age, although some participants said >the pact did not go far enough.
On Tuesday, December 12, 2023 at 3:37:28?PM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 23:21:58 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
On 12/12/23 14:54, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:
Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
The current hoopla about cimate change is just a ploy to gather money.
Vague; what is the exact nature of the 'current hoopla'?
Who gathers it and how?
Well, Al Gore does, for one. But this barb aside, the overall
picture is far too complicated for a finite Usenet article.
Not complicated, so much, as poorly defined.
As one example, energy is made more expensive by the combined
effects of additional taxes, calls for action from climate
activists, public money (ab)used to fund projects of questionable
efficacy, propaganda and politics, and that ripples through
to everything else. The end consumer pays the tag and every
intermediary takes a share of the proceeds.
Yes, politics doesn't exclude some measure of controversy; some people
think politics is ABOUT controversy (that's wrong; properly, politics is about public
policy in democratic places, and about control measures in other places).
Yes. A gang of otherwise useless losers... meaning, specialists?
Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:
The obvious answer is renewables, but they need a base load supply.
PWR can help, but at the cost of dangerous highly radioactive waste.
The answer to this problem is Thorium Molten Salt Reactors. They don't need water for cooling and can be placed anywhere. China has been operating one
in the desert with excellent results. They are planning on building more,
and in the meantime are buiding a container ship using MSR:
Chinese shipyard unveils plans for world’s first nuclear container powered by cutting-edge molten salt reactor.
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3243966/chinese-shipyard- unveils-plans-worlds-first-nuclear-tanker-powered-cutting-edge-molten-salt- reactor
I suggest you review your thoughts on global warming, and study molten salt reactors. There is plenty of information available.'
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