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    From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 5 10:28:56 2023
    The agent8 kill filter

    message-id: googlegroups.com

    elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will
    eliminate some semi-legit posts.

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  • From boB@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Dec 5 13:14:03 2023
    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 10:28:56 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

    The agent8 kill filter

    message-id: googlegroups.com

    elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will
    eliminate some semi-legit posts.


    It worked !

    I think it deleted the post that followed yours though.

    boB

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  • From boB@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Dec 5 13:26:58 2023
    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 10:28:56 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

    The agent8 kill filter

    message-id: googlegroups.com

    elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will
    eliminate some semi-legit posts.

    Do you know if there is a way to filter using a wile card ? (*)

    I don't see anything about it in Agent 8 help but I do se some logic
    like AND and NOT etc.

    Maybe Google or ChatGPT has some answers.

    Seems that sporge is extremely hard to filter.

    Or maybe there is a way to approve certain from: names ?
    That might be handy.

    boB

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  • From Dan Purgert@21:1/5 to boB on Tue Dec 5 20:43:38 2023
    On 2023-12-05, boB wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 10:28:56 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

    The agent8 kill filter

    message-id: googlegroups.com

    elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will
    eliminate some semi-legit posts.

    Do you know if there is a way to filter using a wile card ? (*)

    Depends on your newsreader. Mine (slrn) allows regex matches (which
    are, if I understand the documentation correctly, relatively closely
    compatible to PCRE)


    I don't see anything about it in Agent 8 help but I do se some logic
    like AND and NOT etc.

    Quick spin thru the (awful) FAQ seems like "no".

    Or maybe there is a way to approve certain from: names ?
    That might be handy.

    Really depends on what limitations your newsreader has ... I couldn't
    find much in the way of useful documentation for "(Forte) Agent8"; seems
    it's more geared towards obtaining binaries rather than general
    communication of "news".


    --
    |_|O|_|
    |_|_|O| Github: https://github.com/dpurgert
    |O|O|O| PGP: DDAB 23FB 19FA 7D85 1CC1 E067 6D65 70E5 4CE7 2860

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to boB on Tue Dec 5 12:46:16 2023
    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 13:26:58 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 10:28:56 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

    The agent8 kill filter

    message-id: googlegroups.com

    elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it will
    eliminate some semi-legit posts.

    Do you know if there is a way to filter using a wile card ? (*)

    I don't see anything about it in Agent 8 help but I do se some logic
    like AND and NOT etc.

    Maybe Google or ChatGPT has some answers.

    Seems that sporge is extremely hard to filter.

    Or maybe there is a way to approve certain from: names ?
    That might be handy.

    boB



    Agent has a complex filter command syntax, regular expressions and
    such, that I don't have the energy to understand and use.

    It may be possible to op-in some google posts, based on poster's name,
    but I don't know how.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to martin_riddle@verison.net on Tue Dec 5 12:58:17 2023
    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
    <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
    The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.

    Works for me

    What usenet snobs we are!

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  • From Martin Rid@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Dec 5 15:51:47 2023
    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
    The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.

    Works for me
    --


    ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- https://piaohong.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usenet/index.html

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  • From boB@21:1/5 to john larkin on Tue Dec 5 14:56:42 2023
    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid ><martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
    The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.

    Works for me

    What usenet snobs we are!


    Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.

    https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter

    It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
    explained pretty well.

    I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
    useful

    boB

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  • From Mike Monett VE3BTI@21:1/5 to Lasse Langwadt Christensen on Tue Dec 5 23:06:55 2023
    Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

    tirsdag den 5. december 2023 kl. 19.29.07 UTC+1 skrev john larkin:
    The agent8 kill filter

    message-id: googlegroups.com

    elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing.

    I wonder if google has abandoned usenet, previous spam storms usually stopped in a day or two

    I guess it will
    eliminate some semi-legit posts.

    I use googlegroups

    I use XNEWS and a PLONK file. I see very little new spam.

    There are 349 entries in my PLONK file, but most of them are years old. I should clean them out by erasing the file and starting over.

    I have tried most of the news clients and soon gave up on them. I am very
    happy with XNEWS


    --
    MRM

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to boB on Tue Dec 5 14:55:29 2023
    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid >><martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
    The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.

    Works for me

    What usenet snobs we are!


    Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.

    https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter

    It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
    explained pretty well.

    I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
    useful

    boB

    It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to
    post.

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  • From Wanderer@21:1/5 to Lasse Langwadt Christensen on Tue Dec 5 05:53:04 2023
    Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
    tirsdag den 5. december 2023 kl. 19.29.07 UTC+1 skrev john larkin:
    The agent8 kill filter

    message-id: googlegroups.com

    elimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing.

    I wonder if google has abandoned usenet, previous spam storms usually stopped in a >day or two

    Google might be dealing with it as part of this process.

    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/11/inactive-google-account-deletions-start-december-1/

    So it might take a while.

    I guess it will
    eliminate some semi-legit posts.

    I use googlegroups

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to john larkin on Wed Dec 6 12:44:05 2023
    On 6/12/2023 9:55 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
    <martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
    The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.

    Works for me

    What usenet snobs we are!


    Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.

    https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter

    It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
    explained pretty well.

    I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
    useful

    It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to post.

    Sadly, both John Larkin and "a a" appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean constructive, well-informed or useful.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to utube.jocjo@xoxy.net on Tue Dec 5 19:20:11 2023
    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 18:46:08 -0800 (PST), John Smiht
    <utube.jocjo@xoxy.net> wrote:

    On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 7:44:19?PM UTC-6, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 6/12/2023 9:55 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote: >> >>
    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
    <martin...@verison.net> wrote:

    john larkin <j...@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
    The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.

    Works for me

    What usenet snobs we are!


    Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.

    https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter

    It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
    explained pretty well.

    I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
    useful

    It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to post. >> Sadly, both John Larkin and "a a" appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean
    constructive, well-informed or useful.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    Just had to get another jab in, didn't ya?

    It's clearly pathological. Sad. Just ignore him.

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  • From Bertrand Sindri@21:1/5 to john larkin on Wed Dec 6 03:34:52 2023
    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:
    It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to
    post.

    A decent newsreader will allow you to do exactly this. Note, I don't
    know if ForteAgent has any of this, as I don't use it.

    A deceent newsreader implements "kill files" not as a binary
    "kill/keep" filter but rather as a scoring filter. New articles start
    out with an initial score (say zero points) and any "kill filters" they
    trigger subtract points, and any "select filters" they trigger add
    points. The net points value after all the matching kill/select
    filters have triggered then determines whether you see the article
    highlighted to draw your attention, as a normal new post, or hidden
    because you don't want to see it.

    So what you would do is add a general kill filter on the google groups User-Agent header, initially subtracting points from everything from
    google groups and hiding everything from google groups.

    Then you would add explicit "keep" (select) filters for user names
    (From: headers) for users from google groups that you do want to see,
    which would then "undo" the killing done by the general kill filter,
    but just for those users for which you added the explicit filters.

    The disadvantage is you have to already know which users you want to
    see and/or be on the lookout for others quoting users you did not see,
    and updating your rules to "expose" those users to your view.

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  • From Bob Engelhardt@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 5 22:54:14 2023
    On 12/5/2023 6:06 PM, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:
    I use XNEWS and a PLONK file. I see very little new spam.

    [...]

    Wait! You aren't seeing the 300 or so new daily garbage posts? Mostly
    eastern languages, although today was Roman alphabet. SED and RCM have
    been the most affected ones that I read. The ones with Subjects like: "✅MEGAHOKI88 | ✅MEGAHOKI88 ASIA | ✅MEGAHOKI88 LOGIN | ✅MEGAHOKI88 SLOT |
    ✅MEGAHOKI88 LINK ALTERNATIF | ✅LINK ALTERNATIF MEGAHOKI88 | ✅LINK MEGAHOKI88 LINK GACOR"

    It's easy enough to Select All (CTRL-A) & Ignore (K). Except for the
    few posts that are legitimate and have to be id'ed.

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  • From Arie de Muijnck@21:1/5 to Bob Engelhardt on Wed Dec 6 11:18:45 2023
    On 2023-12-06 04:54, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
    On 12/5/2023 6:06 PM, Mike Monett VE3BTI wrote:
    I use XNEWS and a PLONK file. I see very little new spam.

    [...]

    Wait!  You aren't seeing the 300 or so new daily garbage posts?  Mostly eastern languages, although today was Roman alphabet.  SED and RCM have been the most affected ones that I read.  The ones with Subjects like:
    "✅MEGAHOKI88 | ✅MEGAHOKI88 ASIA | ✅MEGAHOKI88 LOGIN | ✅MEGAHOKI88 SLOT | ✅MEGAHOKI88 LINK ALTERNATIF | ✅LINK ALTERNATIF MEGAHOKI88 | ✅LINK MEGAHOKI88 LINK GACOR"

    It's easy enough to Select All (CTRL-A) & Ignore (K).  Except for the few posts that are legitimate and have to be id'ed.

    It depends on the provider.
    I tried the 'paid' KPN.nl (comes with my internet connection) which passes all spam.
    Now I use the free provider news.eternal-september.org which removes all the spam.
    Maybe also everything else posted through google groups - mostly clueless stuff anyway.

    Arie

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to John Smiht on Wed Dec 6 23:26:31 2023
    On 6/12/2023 1:46 pm, John Smiht wrote:
    On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 7:44:19 PM UTC-6, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 6/12/2023 9:55 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>
    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
    <martin...@verison.net> wrote:

    john larkin <j...@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
    The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.

    Works for me

    What usenet snobs we are!


    Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.

    https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter

    It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
    explained pretty well.

    I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
    useful

    It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to post. >> Sadly, both John Larkin and "a a" appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean
    constructive, well-informed or useful.

    Just had to get another jab in, didn't ya?

    My mistake. Sadly, John Larkin, John Smiht and "a a" all appear to be
    real. "Real" doesn't mean constructive, well-informed or useful.

    -- '
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bill Sloman@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Wed Dec 6 23:33:11 2023
    On 6/12/2023 2:20 pm, John Larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 18:46:08 -0800 (PST), John Smiht
    <utube.jocjo@xoxy.net> wrote:

    On Tuesday, December 5, 2023 at 7:44:19?PM UTC-6, Bill Sloman wrote:
    On 6/12/2023 9:55 am, john larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <b...@K7IQ.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote: >>>>>
    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid
    <martin...@verison.net> wrote:

    john larkin <j...@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
    The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.

    Works for me

    What usenet snobs we are!


    Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters. >>>>>
    https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter

    It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
    explained pretty well.

    I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
    useful

    It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to post.

    Sadly, both John Larkin and "a a" appear to be real. "Real" doesn't mean >>> constructive, well-informed or useful.

    Just had to get another jab in, didn't ya?

    It's clearly pathological. Sad. Just ignore him.

    John Larkin expects to be flattered. He clearly imagines that he is
    perfect just the way he is, so critical comments can only be malicious
    insults. That's a pretty pathological state.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to john larkin on Wed Dec 6 09:29:12 2023
    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:55:29 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid >>><martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
    The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.

    Works for me

    What usenet snobs we are!


    Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.
    <https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter>

    It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
    explained pretty well.

    I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something
    useful

    boB

    It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to
    post.

    This ought to be possible if one puts a white list rule (that also
    stops further rule processing) before the kill google groups filter.

    Joe Gwinn

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Dec 6 08:05:32 2023
    On Wed, 06 Dec 2023 09:29:12 -0500, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
    wrote:

    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:55:29 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 14:56:42 -0700, boB <boB@K7IQ.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 05 Dec 2023 12:58:17 -0800, john larkin <jl@650pot.com> wrote:

    On Tue, 5 Dec 2023 15:51:47 -0500 (EST), Martin Rid >>>><martin_riddle@verison.net> wrote:

    john larkin <jl@650pot.com> Wrote in message:r
    The agent8 kill filter message-id: googlegroups.comelimninates the terrible spam I've been seeing. I guess it willeliminate some semi-legit posts.

    Works for me

    What usenet snobs we are!


    Found a good tutorial on using regular expressions in AGENT filters.
    <https://alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent.narkive.com/MVlCzh4Z/agent-regular-expression-filter>

    It's just an archive from the agent group. Some good examples
    explained pretty well.

    I'll be playing with this a bit. Hopefully I come up with something >>>useful

    boB

    It would be cool to kill google posts but allow a few real people to
    post.

    This ought to be possible if one puts a white list rule (that also
    stops further rule processing) before the kill google groups filter.

    Joe Gwinn

    Maybe Agent8 can do that. I don't have time to figure that out right
    now.

    I did ping Supernews and they claim to be working on the spam issue.

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