HyperloopTT is in process of building a loop in Italy they anticipate to be in service before 2029. Website has some very interesting facts and descriptions of the various technologies used. It will not be a plaything for the elite like that other joke.They're planning on using it to transport 100s thousands of riders, safely, comfortably ( <0.1 g), with very high energy efficiency. It will be a combination of elevated, ground level, and tunnel rails.
https://www.hyperlooptt.com/technology/
On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 11:25:45?AM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:joke. They're planning on using it to transport 100s thousands of riders, safely, comfortably ( <0.1 g), with very high energy efficiency. It will be a combination of elevated, ground level, and tunnel rails.
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 07:31:56 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
HyperloopTT is in process of building a loop in Italy they anticipate to be in service before 2029. Website has some very interesting facts and descriptions of the various technologies used. It will not be a plaything for the elite like that other
That will be a crazy expensive roadway. What will they do if a train
https://www.hyperlooptt.com/technology/
breaks and catches fire, or the life-support system fails? "Fail
often, fail hard" doesn't work when lives are involved.
People are generally accepting of risk when it can put in terms they can relate to. If the calculated risk can be reduced to 1/30th chance of being struck by lightning, everyone will go for it, just as an example.
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 07:31:56 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:joke. They're planning on using it to transport 100s thousands of riders, safely, comfortably ( <0.1 g), with very high energy efficiency. It will be a combination of elevated, ground level, and tunnel rails.
HyperloopTT is in process of building a loop in Italy they anticipate to be in service before 2029. Website has some very interesting facts and descriptions of the various technologies used. It will not be a plaything for the elite like that other
https://www.hyperlooptt.com/technology/
That will be a crazy expensive roadway. What will they do if a train
breaks and catches fire, or the life-support system fails? "Fail
often, fail hard" doesn't work when lives are involved.
On 12/1/23 17:24, John Larkin wrote:joke. They're planning on using it to transport 100s thousands of riders, safely, comfortably ( <0.1 g), with very high energy efficiency. It will be a combination of elevated, ground level, and tunnel rails.
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 07:31:56 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
HyperloopTT is in process of building a loop in Italy they anticipate to be in service before 2029. Website has some very interesting facts and descriptions of the various technologies used. It will not be a plaything for the elite like that other
https://www.hyperlooptt.com/technology/
That will be a crazy expensive roadway. What will they do if a train
breaks and catches fire, or the life-support system fails? "Fail
often, fail hard" doesn't work when lives are involved.
I think the safety aspects can be dealt with. After all commercial
aircraft also keep their passengers safe in a hostile environment.
The site has a severe lack of interesting facts! It´s mostly fluff.
The tracks sure do look expensive. A cost comparison between a km
of traditional track and of a hyperloop track would have been useful.
It would also have been interesting to know how they expect to get
passengers in and out of a capsule, and how much power they estimate
to sustain speed and to keep the tube pressure down.
Instead they rave about cabine layout, composite material
construction and other less relevant things. It doesn´t inspire any >confidence they know what they´re into.
Jeroen Belleman
On 12/1/23 17:24, John Larkin wrote:joke. They're planning on using it to transport 100s thousands of riders, safely, comfortably ( <0.1 g), with very high energy efficiency. It will be a combination of elevated, ground level, and tunnel rails.
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 07:31:56 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
HyperloopTT is in process of building a loop in Italy they anticipate to be in service before 2029. Website has some very interesting facts and descriptions of the various technologies used. It will not be a plaything for the elite like that other
https://www.hyperlooptt.com/technology/
That will be a crazy expensive roadway. What will they do if a train
breaks and catches fire, or the life-support system fails? "Fail
often, fail hard" doesn't work when lives are involved.
I think the safety aspects can be dealt with. After all commercial
aircraft also keep their passengers safe in a hostile environment.
The site has a severe lack of interesting facts! It´s mostly fluff.
The tracks sure do look expensive. A cost comparison between a km
of traditional track and of a hyperloop track would have been useful.
It would also have been interesting to know how they expect to get
passengers in and out of a capsule, and how much power they estimate
to sustain speed and to keep the tube pressure down.
Instead they rave about cabine layout, composite material
construction and other less relevant things. It doesn´t inspire any >confidence they know what they´re into.
On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 7:47:46?PM UTC-5, john larkin wrote:joke. They're planning on using it to transport 100s thousands of riders, safely, comfortably ( <0.1 g), with very high energy efficiency. It will be a combination of elevated, ground level, and tunnel rails.
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 22:58:11 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
On 12/1/23 17:24, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 07:31:56 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
HyperloopTT is in process of building a loop in Italy they anticipate to be in service before 2029. Website has some very interesting facts and descriptions of the various technologies used. It will not be a plaything for the elite like that other
have commitments to build them out all over the place. They haven't built a single one yet. This Venice to Padua 23-mile route looks like it may actually materialize, but only as a 'validation' of the concept. How much dammed validating do these fools
https://www.hyperlooptt.com/technology/
That will be a crazy expensive roadway. What will they do if a train
breaks and catches fire, or the life-support system fails? "Fail
often, fail hard" doesn't work when lives are involved.
I think the safety aspects can be dealt with. After all commercial
aircraft also keep their passengers safe in a hostile environment.
The site has a severe lack of interesting facts! It? mostly fluff.
The tracks sure do look expensive. A cost comparison between a km
of traditional track and of a hyperloop track would have been useful.
It would also have been interesting to know how they expect to get
passengers in and out of a capsule, and how much power they estimate
to sustain speed and to keep the tube pressure down.
Instead they rave about cabine layout, composite material
construction and other less relevant things. It doesn? inspire any
confidence they know what they?e into.
The track is two tubes, and the pagoda roof thing looks cosmetic and
expensive.
That may be, but the total cost comes in less than an equivalent high speed rail build. The hyperloop has the unequaled advantage of nearly zero energy consumption. Looks like they're going after any market that would require a high speed rail, and they
https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/hyperlooptt-hyperloop-system/?cf-view
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:19:25 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:joke. They're planning on using it to transport 100s thousands of riders, safely, comfortably ( <0.1 g), with very high energy efficiency. It will be a combination of elevated, ground level, and tunnel rails.
On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 7:47:46?PM UTC-5, john larkin wrote:
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 22:58:11 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
On 12/1/23 17:24, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 07:31:56 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
HyperloopTT is in process of building a loop in Italy they anticipate to be in service before 2029. Website has some very interesting facts and descriptions of the various technologies used. It will not be a plaything for the elite like that other
they have commitments to build them out all over the place. They haven't built a single one yet. This Venice to Padua 23-mile route looks like it may actually materialize, but only as a 'validation' of the concept. How much dammed validating do these
https://www.hyperlooptt.com/technology/
That will be a crazy expensive roadway. What will they do if a train >>>>> breaks and catches fire, or the life-support system fails? "Fail
often, fail hard" doesn't work when lives are involved.
I think the safety aspects can be dealt with. After all commercial
aircraft also keep their passengers safe in a hostile environment.
The site has a severe lack of interesting facts! It? mostly fluff.
The tracks sure do look expensive. A cost comparison between a km
of traditional track and of a hyperloop track would have been useful.
It would also have been interesting to know how they expect to get
passengers in and out of a capsule, and how much power they estimate
to sustain speed and to keep the tube pressure down.
Instead they rave about cabine layout, composite material
construction and other less relevant things. It doesn? inspire any
confidence they know what they?e into.
The track is two tubes, and the pagoda roof thing looks cosmetic and
expensive.
That may be, but the total cost comes in less than an equivalent high speed rail build. The hyperloop has the unequaled advantage of nearly zero energy consumption. Looks like they're going after any market that would require a high speed rail, and
https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/hyperlooptt-hyperloop-system/?cf-view
Hasn't it always been that way?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taJ4MFCxiuo
On 12/2/23 11:57, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 17:19:25 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 7:47:46?PM UTC-5, john larkin wrote:
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 22:58:11 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
On 12/1/23 17:24, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 07:31:56 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
HyperloopTT is in process of building a loop in Italy they
anticipate to be in service before 2029. Website has some very
interesting facts and descriptions of the various technologies
used. It will not be a plaything for the elite like that other
joke. They're planning on using it to transport 100s thousands of >>>>>>> riders, safely, comfortably ( <0.1 g), with very high energy
efficiency. It will be a combination of elevated, ground level, and tunnel rails.
https://www.hyperlooptt.com/technology/
That will be a crazy expensive roadway. What will they do if a train >>>>>> breaks and catches fire, or the life-support system fails? "Fail
often, fail hard" doesn't work when lives are involved.
I think the safety aspects can be dealt with. After all commercial
aircraft also keep their passengers safe in a hostile environment.
The site has a severe lack of interesting facts! It? mostly fluff.
The tracks sure do look expensive. A cost comparison between a km
of traditional track and of a hyperloop track would have been useful. >>>>> It would also have been interesting to know how they expect to get
passengers in and out of a capsule, and how much power they estimate >>>>> to sustain speed and to keep the tube pressure down.
Instead they rave about cabine layout, composite material
construction and other less relevant things. It doesn? inspire any
confidence they know what they?e into.
The track is two tubes, and the pagoda roof thing looks cosmetic and
expensive.
That may be, but the total cost comes in less than an equivalent high
speed rail build. The hyperloop has the unequaled advantage of nearly
zero energy consumption. Looks like they're going after any market that
would require a high speed rail, and they have commitments to build
them out all over the place. They haven't built a single one yet. This
Venice to Padua 23-mile route looks like it may actually materialize,
but only as a 'validation' of the concept. How much dammed validating
do these fools need to do? Looks like there's more money in selling a
promise than actually producing a working product.
https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/hyperlooptt-hyperloop-system/?cf-view
Hasn't it always been that way?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taJ4MFCxiuo
Fred's link provides a little information. A capsule is said
to weigh 5 tons and is powered by internal batteries, With 40
passengers and their luggage we might reach about 9000 kg.
Bringing that up to speed, 1220 km/hr, requires about 280 kWh.
That requires roughly 1600 kg of batteries if we're allowed to
deplete them entirely, but more likely about double that to
improve battery lifetime and to have margin for other purposes.
On Friday, December 1, 2023 at 7:47:46?PM UTC-5, john larkin wrote:joke. They're planning on using it to transport 100s thousands of riders, safely, comfortably ( <0.1 g), with very high energy efficiency. It will be a combination of elevated, ground level, and tunnel rails.
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 22:58:11 +0100, Jeroen Belleman
<jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
On 12/1/23 17:24, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 1 Dec 2023 07:31:56 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
HyperloopTT is in process of building a loop in Italy they anticipate to be in service before 2029. Website has some very interesting facts and descriptions of the various technologies used. It will not be a plaything for the elite like that other
have commitments to build them out all over the place. They haven't built a single one yet. This Venice to Padua 23-mile route looks like it may actually materialize, but only as a 'validation' of the concept. How much dammed validating do these fools
https://www.hyperlooptt.com/technology/
That will be a crazy expensive roadway. What will they do if a train
breaks and catches fire, or the life-support system fails? "Fail
often, fail hard" doesn't work when lives are involved.
I think the safety aspects can be dealt with. After all commercial
aircraft also keep their passengers safe in a hostile environment.
The site has a severe lack of interesting facts! It? mostly fluff.
The tracks sure do look expensive. A cost comparison between a km
of traditional track and of a hyperloop track would have been useful.
It would also have been interesting to know how they expect to get
passengers in and out of a capsule, and how much power they estimate
to sustain speed and to keep the tube pressure down.
Instead they rave about cabine layout, composite material
construction and other less relevant things. It doesn? inspire any
confidence they know what they?e into.
The track is two tubes, and the pagoda roof thing looks cosmetic and
expensive.
That may be, but the total cost comes in less than an equivalent high speed rail build. The hyperloop has the unequaled advantage of nearly zero energy consumption. Looks like they're going after any market that would require a high speed rail, and they
https://www.railway-technology.com/projects/hyperlooptt-hyperloop-system/?cf-view
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 1:29:43?PM UTC-8, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
[about prospective hyperloop]
Fred's link provides a little information. A capsule is said
to weigh 5 tons and is powered by internal batteries, With 40
passengers and their luggage we might reach about 9000 kg.
Bringing that up to speed, 1220 km/hr, requires about 280 kWh.
That requires roughly 1600 kg of batteries if we're allowed to
deplete them entirely, but more likely about double that to
improve battery lifetime and to have margin for other purposes.
Such as slowing down again. ;)
Completely missing the point, that the hyper loop concept uses gravity for >acceleration, and gravity for deceleration, and the 'kWh' value is identical >to the potential energy of the endpoints minus that of the trajectory nadir.
On Sun, 3 Dec 2023 12:29:04 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 1:29:43?PM UTC-8, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
[about prospective hyperloop]
Fred's link provides a little information. A capsule is said
to weigh 5 tons and is powered by internal batteries, With 40
passengers and their luggage we might reach about 9000 kg.
Bringing that up to speed, 1220 km/hr, requires about 280 kWh.
That requires roughly 1600 kg of batteries if we're allowed to
deplete them entirely, but more likely about double that to
improve battery lifetime and to have margin for other purposes.
Such as slowing down again. ;)
Completely missing the point, that the hyper loop concept uses gravity for >> acceleration, and gravity for deceleration, and the 'kWh' value is identical >> to the potential energy of the endpoints minus that of the trajectory nadir.
Gravity? How would that work?
On Saturday, December 2, 2023 at 1:29:43?PM UTC-8, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote:
[about prospective hyperloop]
Fred's link provides a little information. A capsule is said
to weigh 5 tons and is powered by internal batteries, With 40
passengers and their luggage we might reach about 9000 kg.
Bringing that up to speed, 1220 km/hr, requires about 280 kWh.
That requires roughly 1600 kg of batteries if we're allowed to
deplete them entirely, but more likely about double that to
improve battery lifetime and to have margin for other purposes.
Such as slowing down again. ;)
Completely missing the point, that the hyper loop concept uses gravity for >acceleration, and gravity for deceleration, and the 'kWh' value is identical >to the potential energy of the endpoints minus that of the trajectory nadir.
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