• Laid-up new trains

    From bitrex@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 13 14:30:35 2023
    <https://www.reddit.com/r/Amtrak/comments/17rnev5/found_the_avelia_libertys_in_the_yard_in_philly/>

    In European hell the British are the chefs, Germans are the comedians,
    French are the engineers...

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to bitrex on Mon Nov 13 20:54:16 2023
    bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    <https://www.reddit.com/r/Amtrak/comments/17rnev5/found_the_avelia_liberty s_in_the_yard_in_philly/>

    In European hell the British are the chefs, Germans are the comedians,
    French are the engineers...

    ...the lovers are Swiss and the whole thing is organised by the
    Italians.


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  • From a a@21:1/5 to bitrex on Tue Nov 14 00:01:18 2023
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    The arsehole bitrex <user@example.net> persisting in being an Off-topic troll...

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Tue Nov 14 01:53:24 2023
    On 11/13/2023 3:54 PM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    <https://www.reddit.com/r/Amtrak/comments/17rnev5/found_the_avelia_liberty >> s_in_the_yard_in_philly/>

    In European hell the British are the chefs, Germans are the comedians,
    French are the engineers...

    ...the lovers are Swiss and the whole thing is organised by the
    Italians.


    The US will send its finest Olympic soccer team to assist.

    Meanwhile Alstom blames the US track, they've been complaining about US
    track since 1977.

    <http://www.amtrakhistoricalsociety.org/x996.html>

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to bitrex on Tue Nov 14 02:01:34 2023
    On 11/14/2023 1:53 AM, bitrex wrote:
    On 11/13/2023 3:54 PM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
    bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    <https://www.reddit.com/r/Amtrak/comments/17rnev5/found_the_avelia_liberty >>> s_in_the_yard_in_philly/>

    In European hell the British are the chefs, Germans are the comedians,
    French are the engineers...

    ...the lovers are Swiss and the whole thing is organised by the
    Italians.


    The US will send its finest Olympic soccer team to assist.

    Meanwhile Alstom blames the US track, they've been complaining about US
    track since 1977.

    <http://www.amtrakhistoricalsociety.org/x996.html>

    Man the CC 21000 was an aggressively ugly locomotive, particularly in
    red white & blue.

    Hard to imagine those things pulling passenger trains around for decades
    here vs the RC4-derived AEM-7 meatballs.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Tue Nov 14 16:03:20 2023
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  • From a a@21:1/5 to bitrex on Tue Nov 14 16:03:26 2023
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  • From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to bitrex on Tue Nov 14 16:35:10 2023
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 2:30:44 PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
    <https://www.reddit.com/r/Amtrak/comments/17rnev5/found_the_avelia_libertys_in_the_yard_in_philly/>

    In European hell the British are the chefs, Germans are the comedians, French are the engineers...

    It's a lemon:

    https://www.thedrive.com/news/amtraks-new-high-speed-trains-are-riddled-with-problems-and-years-behind-schedule

    This explains it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alstom

    Look at 'Judicial investigations'. Then read :

    'In September 2015, it was announced that Amtrak would award Alstom a contract for $2.5 billion for the next generation high-speed train sets for the Northeast Corridor. This would result in the creation of 750 jobs across upstate New York with 400
    direct manufacturing jobs at Alstom.[94] The order for 28 Avelia Liberty trainsets was officially confirmed in August 2016 by Amtrak.[95] These trainsets are manufactured at Alstom's plant in Hornell, New York.[96]'

    'In September 2015, it was announced in Hornell, New York, by Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) that Amtrak will be awarding Alstom a contract for $2.45 billion for the next-generation high-speed train sets for the Northeast Corridor. This would result in
    the creation of 750 jobs across upstate New York with 400 direct manufacturing jobs at Alstom.[123][124] The new trainsets will be able to reach speeds up to 186 mph and feature active tilting technology. The 28 new train sets are scheduled to enter
    service by 2023.[125]'

    Poltics involved equals disaster every time...

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Fred Bloggs on Wed Nov 15 03:05:50 2023
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  • From legg@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Wed Nov 15 07:58:46 2023
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 16:35:10 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 2:30:44?PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
    <https://www.reddit.com/r/Amtrak/comments/17rnev5/found_the_avelia_libertys_in_the_yard_in_philly/>

    In European hell the British are the chefs, Germans are the comedians,
    French are the engineers...

    It's a lemon:

    https://www.thedrive.com/news/amtraks-new-high-speed-trains-are-riddled-with-problems-and-years-behind-schedule

    This explains it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alstom

    Look at 'Judicial investigations'. Then read :

    'In September 2015, it was announced that Amtrak would award Alstom a contract for $2.5 billion for the next generation high-speed train sets for the Northeast Corridor. This would result in the creation of 750 jobs across upstate New York with 400
    direct manufacturing jobs at Alstom.[94] The order for 28 Avelia Liberty trainsets was officially confirmed in August 2016 by Amtrak.[95] These trainsets are manufactured at Alstom's plant in Hornell, New York.[96]'

    'In September 2015, it was announced in Hornell, New York, by Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) that Amtrak will be awarding Alstom a contract for $2.45 billion for the next-generation high-speed train sets for the Northeast Corridor. This would result in
    the creation of 750 jobs across upstate New York with 400 direct manufacturing jobs at Alstom.[123][124] The new trainsets will be able to reach speeds up to 186 mph and feature active tilting technology. The 28 new train sets are scheduled to enter
    service by 2023.[125]'

    Poltics involved equals disaster every time...

    Damn trains. Can't make themselves, lay their own track, or do any
    maintenance.

    At least they can drive.

    RL

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to legg on Wed Nov 15 14:02:24 2023
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  • From Tabby@21:1/5 to legg on Wed Nov 15 10:40:47 2023
    On Wednesday, 15 November 2023 at 12:58:43 UTC, legg wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 16:35:10 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 2:30:44?PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
    <https://www.reddit.com/r/Amtrak/comments/17rnev5/found_the_avelia_libertys_in_the_yard_in_philly/>

    In European hell the British are the chefs, Germans are the comedians,
    French are the engineers...

    It's a lemon:

    https://www.thedrive.com/news/amtraks-new-high-speed-trains-are-riddled-with-problems-and-years-behind-schedule

    This explains it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alstom

    Look at 'Judicial investigations'. Then read :

    'In September 2015, it was announced that Amtrak would award Alstom a contract for $2.5 billion for the next generation high-speed train sets for the Northeast Corridor. This would result in the creation of 750 jobs across upstate New York with 400
    direct manufacturing jobs at Alstom.[94] The order for 28 Avelia Liberty trainsets was officially confirmed in August 2016 by Amtrak.[95] These trainsets are manufactured at Alstom's plant in Hornell, New York.[96]'

    'In September 2015, it was announced in Hornell, New York, by Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) that Amtrak will be awarding Alstom a contract for $2.45 billion for the next-generation high-speed train sets for the Northeast Corridor. This would result
    in the creation of 750 jobs across upstate New York with 400 direct manufacturing jobs at Alstom.[123][124] The new trainsets will be able to reach speeds up to 186 mph and feature active tilting technology. The 28 new train sets are scheduled to enter
    service by 2023.[125]'

    Poltics involved equals disaster every time...
    Damn trains. Can't make themselves, lay their own track, or do any maintenance.

    At least they can drive.

    RL

    I've seen a train laying its own track. Far quicker than doing it by hand. They're also used to maintain the track by looking for dips & humps & jiggling the ballast to level the track. Times have changed.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Tabby on Wed Nov 15 18:52:02 2023
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  • From Ricky@21:1/5 to Tabby on Thu Nov 16 02:20:29 2023
    On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 1:40:53 PM UTC-5, Tabby wrote:
    On Wednesday, 15 November 2023 at 12:58:43 UTC, legg wrote:
    On Tue, 14 Nov 2023 16:35:10 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 2:30:44?PM UTC-5, bitrex wrote:
    <https://www.reddit.com/r/Amtrak/comments/17rnev5/found_the_avelia_libertys_in_the_yard_in_philly/>

    In European hell the British are the chefs, Germans are the comedians, >> French are the engineers...

    It's a lemon:

    https://www.thedrive.com/news/amtraks-new-high-speed-trains-are-riddled-with-problems-and-years-behind-schedule

    This explains it:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alstom

    Look at 'Judicial investigations'. Then read :

    'In September 2015, it was announced that Amtrak would award Alstom a contract for $2.5 billion for the next generation high-speed train sets for the Northeast Corridor. This would result in the creation of 750 jobs across upstate New York with 400
    direct manufacturing jobs at Alstom.[94] The order for 28 Avelia Liberty trainsets was officially confirmed in August 2016 by Amtrak.[95] These trainsets are manufactured at Alstom's plant in Hornell, New York.[96]'

    'In September 2015, it was announced in Hornell, New York, by Senator Charles Schumer (D-NY) that Amtrak will be awarding Alstom a contract for $2.45 billion for the next-generation high-speed train sets for the Northeast Corridor. This would result
    in the creation of 750 jobs across upstate New York with 400 direct manufacturing jobs at Alstom.[123][124] The new trainsets will be able to reach speeds up to 186 mph and feature active tilting technology. The 28 new train sets are scheduled to enter
    service by 2023.[125]'

    Poltics involved equals disaster every time...
    Damn trains. Can't make themselves, lay their own track, or do any maintenance.

    At least they can drive.

    RL
    I've seen a train laying its own track. Far quicker than doing it by hand. They're also used to maintain the track by looking for dips & humps & jiggling the ballast to level the track. Times have changed.

    Are you talking about new track and not replacing track or cross ties?

    They have maintenance equipment that lifts the rails, cuts the ties in half, pulls out the two cross tie pieces, then inserts a new cross tie and drives the spikes. That's pretty cool to watch.

    I've never seen this lay new track, but I'm sure they have that. It's just not used much in the US.

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  • From Tabby@21:1/5 to Ricky on Mon Nov 20 17:08:04 2023
    On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 10:20:35 UTC, Ricky wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 1:40:53 PM UTC-5, Tabby wrote:
    On Wednesday, 15 November 2023 at 12:58:43 UTC, legg wrote:

    Damn trains. Can't make themselves, lay their own track, or do any maintenance.

    At least they can drive.

    RL
    I've seen a train laying its own track. Far quicker than doing it by hand. They're also used to maintain the track by looking for dips & humps & jiggling the ballast to level the track. Times have changed.

    Are you talking about new track and not replacing track or cross ties?

    the kit I've seen was laying new track. It levelled the ballast by pressing while jiggling it, then put down a section of track with ties already on. More ballast. And it could level existing track with the jiggling fingers.

    They have maintenance equipment that lifts the rails, cuts the ties in half, pulls out the two cross tie pieces, then inserts a new cross tie and drives the spikes. That's pretty cool to watch.

    I've never seen this lay new track, but I'm sure they have that. It's just not used much in the US.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Tabby on Tue Nov 21 04:25:28 2023
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