Glow in the visible range detected for the first time in the Martian night
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On 2023/11/10 8:55 p.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
Glow in the visible range detected for the first time in the Martian night https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/11/231109121558.htmAnd yet some seem to say that changes in the sun's output has no
measurable affect on the Earth's climate...
On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 7:18:58 AM UTC-8, John Robertson =
wrote:
On 2023/11/10 8:55 p.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
Glow in the visible range detected for the first time in the Martian ni= >ghtAnd yet some seem to say that changes in the sun's output has no
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/11/231109121558.htm
measurable affect on the Earth's climate...
Sunspots are the usual 'changes' we note in the sun, and those do have no m= >easurable
effect on climate. There's big climate effects that swamp a little tenth-= >percent variation.
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Subject: Re: Polar light now also detected on Mars, the sun is very active!! Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 15:54:44 GMT
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On a sunny day (Sat, 11 Nov 2023 22:43:10 -0800 (PST)) it happened whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote in
<2a5c2c22-762f-45d7...@googlegroups.com>:
On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 7:18:58 AM UTC-8, John Robertson = >wrote:
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/11/231109121558.htmAnd yet some seem to say that changes in the sun's output has no
measurable affect on the Earth's climate...
Sunspots are the usual 'changes' we note in the sun, and those do have no m=
easurable
effect on climate. There's big climate effects that swamp a little tenth-= >percent variation.
There is a lot more going on in the sun than sunspots
In fact sunspots may be a result of other processes.
Sun is a big nuclear reactor, free running at that :-)
On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 7:18:58?AM UTC-8, John Robertson wrote:
On 2023/11/10 8:55 p.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
Glow in the visible range detected for the first time in the Martian night >> > https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/11/231109121558.htmAnd yet some seem to say that changes in the sun's output has no
measurable affect on the Earth's climate...
Sunspots are the usual 'changes' we note in the sun, and those do have no measurable
effect on climate. There's big climate effects that swamp a little tenth-percent variation.
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 22:43:10 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Sunspots are the usual 'changes' we note in the sun, and those do have no measurable
effect on climate. There's big climate effects that swamp a little tenth-percent variation.
Something sure pushes temperatures around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:All_palaeotemps.svg
Getting panicked about 1.5c above the LIA is just silly.
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 22:43:10 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 7:18:58?AM UTC-8, John Robertson wrote: >> On 2023/11/10 8:55 p.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
Glow in the visible range detected for the first time in the Martian nightAnd yet some seem to say that changes in the sun's output has no measurable effect on the Earth's climate...
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/11/231109121558.htm
Sunspots are the usual 'changes' we note in the sun, and those do have no measurable effect on climate. There's big climate effects that swamp a little tenth-percent variation.
Something sure pushes temperatures around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:All_palaeotemps.svg
Getting panicked about 1.5c above the LIA is just silly.
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 9:34:02?AM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 22:43:10 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Sunspots are the usual 'changes' we note in the sun, and those do have no measurable
effect on climate. There's big climate effects that swamp a little tenth-percent variation.
Something sure pushes temperatures around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:All_palaeotemps.svg
Getting panicked about 1.5c above the LIA is just silly.
False. Soil and ocean temperatures weren't fast-fluctuating things,
until now; those averages are vital to parts of the world's biology and chemistry
that John Larkin doesn't understand.
We depend on natural biology and chemistry that will be surprising
us all this century. Some of us will survive more surprises than others.
On Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:15:02 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Sunday, November 12, 2023 at 9:34:02?AM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 22:43:10 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Sunspots are the usual 'changes' we note in the sun, and those do have no measurable
effect on climate. There's big climate effects that swamp a little tenth-percent variation.
Something sure pushes temperatures around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:All_palaeotemps.svg
Getting panicked about 1.5c above the LIA is just silly.
False. Soil and ocean temperatures weren't fast-fluctuating things,
until now; those averages are vital to parts of the world's biology and chemistry
that John Larkin doesn't understand.
You ARE Bill Sloman!
We depend on natural biology and chemistry that will be surprising us all this century. Some of us will survive more surprises than others.
And you are very afraid, so maybe you are Fred.
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 22:43:10 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 7:18:58?AM UTC-8, John Robertson wrote:
On 2023/11/10 8:55 p.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
Glow in the visible range detected for the first time in the Martian nightAnd yet some seem to say that changes in the sun's output has no
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/11/231109121558.htm
measurable affect on the Earth's climate...
Sunspots are the usual 'changes' we note in the sun, and those do have no measurable
effect on climate. There's big climate effects that swamp a little tenth-percent variation.
Something sure pushes temperatures around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:All_palaeotemps.svg
Getting panicked about 1.5c above the LIA is just silly.
On a sunny day (Sun, 12 Nov 2023 09:33:21 -0800) it happened John Larkin <j...@997PotHill.com> wrote in <if22li98ep4hu66sd...@4ax.com>:
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023 22:43:10 -0800 (PST), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> >wrote:
On Saturday, November 11, 2023 at 7:18:58?AM UTC-8, John Robertson wrote: >>> On 2023/11/10 8:55 p.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
Glow in the visible range detected for the first time in the Martian nightAnd yet some seem to say that changes in the sun's output has no
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/11/231109121558.htm
measurable affect on the Earth's climate...
Sunspots are the usual 'changes' we note in the sun, and those do have no measurable
effect on climate. There's big climate effects that swamp a little tenth-percent variation.
Something sure pushes temperatures around.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:All_palaeotemps.svg
Getting panicked about 1.5c above the LIA is just silly.A problem with slight temperature rise is the sea level rise caused by polar caps melting.
This means in a few hundred years much land here where I live will be flooded unless dikes are made higher.
They just made a new plan to spend million on improving the dikes.
All of Amsterdam is below sea level, there is a harbor and canals, I have worked in the water control there,
even designed stuff.
Every canal and stuff is monitored by a central computer, there are pumping stations everywhere.
If one fails and the ground water level rises a few cm then the plants will rot, if it goes lower the crops will die,
harvest is lost.
There is a lot to a few degrees.
Glow in the visible range detected for the first time in the Martian night
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