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US will run out of paper to print dollars:
https://www.rt.com/business/586917-us-national-debt-kremlin/
According to Congressional Budget Office data released earlier this year, interest payments on the national debt amounted to $475 billion in fiscal year 2022. That translates to about $1.3 billion per day and approximately $54.2 million per hour.
Maybe why US should go for digital only mony
bits are cheap and easy to flip!
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On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 08:53:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
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US will run out of paper to print dollars:
https://www.rt.com/business/586917-us-national-debt-kremlin/
According to Congressional Budget Office data released earlier this year, interest payments on the national debt amounted to
$475 billion in fiscal year 2022. That translates to about $1.3 billion per day and approximately $54.2 million per hour.
Maybe why US should go for digital only mony
bits are cheap and easy to flip!
Paper is cheap and bits on a hard drive are even cheaper.
The only way out of the debt is to inflate it away. Buy real estate;
they're not making any more land.
It's amazing what morons are ruining our economy, economists and
politicians. The forced zero interest rate thing was insane.
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 08:53:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid>
wrote:
US will run out of paper to print dollars:
https://www.rt.com/business/586917-us-national-debt-kremlin/
According to Congressional Budget Office data released earlier this year, interest payments on the national debt amounted to $475 billion in fiscal year 2022. That translates to about $1.3 billion per day and approximately $54.2 million per hour.
Maybe why US should go for digital only money - bits are cheap and easy to flip!
Paper is cheap and bits on a hard drive are even cheaper.
The only way out of the debt is to inflate it away. Buy real estate; they're not making any more land.
It's amazing what morons are ruining our economy, economists and politicians. The forced zero interest rate thing was insane.
On a sunny day (Fri, 10 Nov 2023 10:31:09 -0800) it happened john larkin <j...@650pot.com> wrote in <igtskito7pp6hak6m...@4ax.com>:
On Fri, 10 Nov 2023 08:53:44 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid> >wrote:
US will run out of paper to print dollars:
https://www.rt.com/business/586917-us-national-debt-kremlin/
According to Congressional Budget Office data released earlier this year, interest payments on the national debt amounted to
$475 billion in fiscal year 2022. That translates to about $1.3 billion per day and approximately $54.2 million per hour.
Maybe why US should go for digital only mony
bits are cheap and easy to flip!
Paper is cheap and bits on a hard drive are even cheaper.
The only way out of the debt is to inflate it away. Buy real estate; they're not making any more land.
Or grabbing other people's deposits, their land... create more wars and sell weapons to all sides as the US does.
The reason that does not work so well is that people rather buy nice cheap stuff from China than get enlisted to get killed in the US Military Complex's wars.
This is what Biden and his democrat followers up are planning to do.
Now he is going to 'talk to Xi'
So a China US war on top of the 2 we already have now during the democrat's reign?
It's amazing what morons are ruining our economy, economists and politicians. The forced zero interest rate thing was insane.
US IQ is falling ever more. Next generation will go back to living CO2 free (not) in wigwams.
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When the schools are as bad as they are in the US, a high IQ means that you will believe the nonsense that you are being taught.
On Saturday, 11 November 2023 at 07:36:10 UTC, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
When the schools are as bad as they are in the US, a high IQ means that you will believe the nonsense that you are being taught.
no, it means spotting many things that don't make sense
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On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 6:25:54 AM UTC+11, Tabby wrote:
On Saturday, 11 November 2023 at 07:36:10 UTC, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
When the schools are as bad as they are in the US, a high IQ means that you will believe the nonsense that you are being taught.
no, it means spotting many things that don't make senseYou didn't read what I wrote - or maybe didn't understand it. You don't seem to be very bright.
IQ tests measure your capacity to do well as school
and that does mean not disagreeing with the nonsense that teachers present to their students from time to time.
IQ tests do claim to test reasoning ability, but that's incidental to their main job. which does seem to be measuring your tolerance for being spoon-fed, and doing what you are told to do.
Clever people do understand what IQ tests are about and frequently do well on them, but that doesn't validate the tests.
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On Monday, 13 November 2023 at 11:44:34 UTC, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 6:25:54 AM UTC+11, Tabby wrote:
On Saturday, 11 November 2023 at 07:36:10 UTC, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
When the schools are as bad as they are in the US, a high IQ means that you will believe the nonsense that you are being taught.
no, it means spotting many things that don't make sense
You didn't read what I wrote - or maybe didn't understand it. You don't seem to be very bright.
incorrect on both counts
that doesn't make sense. Some play the game, learn & regurgitate, some learn some material & reject some, & some decide the whole enterprise is bs & they can do better putting their energy elsewhere.IQ tests measure your capacity to do well as school
not exactly. If we disregard other essential factors for now, high iq students can go in more than one direction. One is learning what they're taught, but that only works reliably upto a point. At high iq a student soon figures out they're being fed bs
and that does mean not disagreeing with the nonsense that teachers present to their students from time to time.
IQ tests do claim to test reasoning ability, but that's incidental to their main job. which does seem to be measuring your tolerance for being spoon-fed, and doing what you are told to do.
that's only true within limits. At the high end that's not what iq is about. The concept of 'gifted at risk' is nothing new.
Clever people do understand what IQ tests are about and frequently do well on them, but that doesn't validate the tests.
On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 5:37:29 AM UTC+11, Tabby wrote:
On Monday, 13 November 2023 at 11:44:34 UTC, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 6:25:54 AM UTC+11, Tabby wrote:
On Saturday, 11 November 2023 at 07:36:10 UTC, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
When the schools are as bad as they are in the US, a high IQ means that you will believe the nonsense that you are being taught.
no, it means spotting many things that don't make sense
You didn't read what I wrote - or maybe didn't understand it. You don't seem to be very bright.
incorrect on both counts
I'm sure that you like to think so.
bs that doesn't make sense. Some play the game, learn & regurgitate, some learn some material & reject some, & some decide the whole enterprise is bs & they can do better putting their energy elsewhere.IQ tests measure your capacity to do well as school
not exactly. If we disregard other essential factors for now, high iq students can go in more than one direction. One is learning what they're taught, but that only works reliably upto a point. At high iq a student soon figures out they're being fed
Taking the second or third options mean that you don't do well in school.
and that does mean not disagreeing with the nonsense that teachers present to their students from time to time.
IQ tests do claim to test reasoning ability, but that's incidental to their main job. which does seem to be measuring your tolerance for being spoon-fed, and doing what you are told to do.
that's only true within limits. At the high end that's not what iq is about. The concept of 'gifted at risk' is nothing new.But IQ tests are not designed to pick out "qifted" people but rather people who will do well at school.
The virtue of an IQ test is that you can put a lot of people through it without investing a lot of attention into everybody being tested.
If you want to claim that some individual is gifted you have to spend quite a lot of time on them to find out where their gifts lie and quite how gifted they are.
IQ testing is much faster and cheaper.
Clever people do understand what IQ tests are about and frequently do well on them, but that doesn't validate the tests.
On Thursday, 16 November 2023 at 07:11:57 UTC, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 5:37:29 AM UTC+11, Tabby wrote:
On Monday, 13 November 2023 at 11:44:34 UTC, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 6:25:54 AM UTC+11, Tabby wrote:
On Saturday, 11 November 2023 at 07:36:10 UTC, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
When the schools are as bad as they are in the US, a high IQ means that you will believe the nonsense that you are being taught.
no, it means spotting many things that don't make sense
You didn't read what I wrote - or maybe didn't understand it. You don't seem to be very bright.
incorrect on both counts
I'm sure that you like to think so.
I know my results & achievements, you don't.
fed bs that doesn't make sense. Some play the game, learn & regurgitate, some learn some material & reject some, & some decide the whole enterprise is bs & they can do better putting their energy elsewhere.IQ tests measure your capacity to do well as school
not exactly. If we disregard other essential factors for now, high iq students can go in more than one direction. One is learning what they're taught, but that only works reliably upto a point. At high iq a student soon figures out they're being
Taking the second or third options mean that you don't do well in school.
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.
and that does mean not disagreeing with the nonsense that teachers present to their students from time to time.
IQ tests do claim to test reasoning ability, but that's incidental to their main job. which does seem to be measuring your tolerance for being spoon-fed, and doing what you are told to do.
that's only true within limits. At the high end that's not what iq is about. The concept of 'gifted at risk' is nothing new.
But IQ tests are not designed to pick out "qifted" people but rather people who will do well at school.
The relationship is nothing like linear at the top end.
The virtue of an IQ test is that you can put a lot of people through it without investing a lot of attention into everybody being tested.
If you want to claim that some individual is gifted you have to spend quite a lot of time on them to find out where their gifts lie and quite how gifted they are.
IQ testing is much faster and cheaper.
Clever people do understand what IQ tests are about and frequently do well on them, but that doesn't validate the tests.
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