• When Idiot Savants Do Climate Economics

    From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 30 09:55:51 2023
    How an elite clique of math-addled economists hijacked climate policy.

    'WILLIAM NORDHAUS, WHO turned 82 this year, was the first economist in our time to attempt to quantify the cost of climate change. His climate-modeling wizardry, which won him the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences in 2018, has made him one of the
    world’s most consequential thinkers. His ideas have been adopted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, global risk managers, the financial services industry, and universities worldwide that teach
    climate economics. Nordhaus’s work literally could affect the lives of billions of people. This is because his quantification of the immediate costs of climate action — as balanced against the long-term economic harms of not acting — is the basis
    of key proposals to mitigate carbon emissions. It’s not an exaggeration to suggest that the fate of nations and a sizable portion of humanity depends on whether his projections are correct.'

    Useless individual lacks the presence of mind to develop perspective and even do a reality check of his conclusions.

    https://theintercept.com/2023/10/29/william-nordhaus-climate-economics/

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Fred Bloggs on Mon Oct 30 20:26:12 2023
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 3:55:56 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    How an elite clique of math-addled economists hijacked climate policy.

    'WILLIAM NORDHAUS, WHO turned 82 this year, was the first economist in our time to attempt to quantify the cost of climate change. His climate-modeling wizardry, which won him the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences in 2018, has made him one of
    the world’s most consequential thinkers. His ideas have been adopted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, global risk managers, the financial services industry, and universities worldwide that
    teach climate economics. Nordhaus’s work literally could affect the lives of billions of people. This is because his quantification of the immediate costs of climate action — as balanced against the long-term economic harms of not acting — is the
    basis of key proposals to mitigate carbon emissions. It’s not an exaggeration to suggest that the fate of nations and a sizable portion of humanity depends on whether his projections are correct.'

    Useless individual lacks the presence of mind to develop perspective and even do a reality check of his conclusions.

    https://theintercept.com/2023/10/29/william-nordhaus-climate-economics/

    "Idiot savant" is quite the wrong phrase.Nordhaus has tunnel vision, and thinks that the economic system will react to large perturations in exactly the same way it reacts to small ones. Linearising non-linear systems makes them mathematically tractable,
    but it can be fatally unrealisitic.

    Nordhaus is living in an economic cloud-cuckoo-land. An idiot savant understands a narrow field perfectly. Economists don't understand their narrow field anything like perfectly. but ignore the imperfections in their understanding because they prefer
    their tractable models to cantankerous reality.

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    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Tue Oct 31 03:42:44 2023
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    The arsehole Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> persisting in being an Off-topic troll...

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Tue Oct 31 07:43:59 2023
    On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 09:55:51 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    How an elite clique of math-addled economists hijacked climate policy.

    'WILLIAM NORDHAUS, WHO turned 82 this year, was the first economist in our time to attempt to quantify the cost of climate change. His climate-modeling wizardry, which won him the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences in 2018, has made him one of
    the world’s most consequential thinkers. His ideas have been adopted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, global risk managers, the financial services industry, and universities worldwide that teach
    climate economics. Nordhaus’s work literally could affect the lives of billions of people. This is because his quantification of the immediate costs of climate action — as balanced against the long-term economic harms of not acting — is the basis of key
    proposals to mitigate carbon emissions. It’s not an exaggeration to suggest that the fate of nations and a sizable portion of humanity depends on whether his projections are correct.'

    Useless individual lacks the presence of mind to develop perspective and even do a reality check of his conclusions.

    https://theintercept.com/2023/10/29/william-nordhaus-climate-economics/


    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/index-of-cereal-production-yield-and-land-use

    Where's the 10% reduction?

    And what fraction of economists are billionaires?

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  • From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Tue Oct 31 11:44:19 2023
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 10:44:30 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 09:55:51 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    How an elite clique of math-addled economists hijacked climate policy.

    'WILLIAM NORDHAUS, WHO turned 82 this year, was the first economist in our time to attempt to quantify the cost of climate change. His climate-modeling wizardry, which won him the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences in 2018, has made him one of
    the world’s most consequential thinkers. His ideas have been adopted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, global risk managers, the financial services industry, and universities worldwide that
    teach climate economics. Nordhaus’s work literally could affect the lives of billions of people. This is because his quantification of the immediate costs of climate action — as balanced against the long-term economic harms of not acting — is the
    basis of key proposals to mitigate carbon emissions. It’s not an exaggeration to suggest that the fate of nations and a sizable portion of humanity depends on whether his projections are correct.'

    Useless individual lacks the presence of mind to develop perspective and even do a reality check of his conclusions.

    https://theintercept.com/2023/10/29/william-nordhaus-climate-economics/ https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/index-of-cereal-production-yield-and-land-use

    Where's the 10% reduction?

    You would be better off eating dirt than modern cereal crops:

    CO2 fertilization, so-called, famously increases starch content and weight as used in yield measures, but can greatly decrease micronutrient and protein content.

    Fruits and vegetables are less nutritious than they used to be

    https://www.nationalgeographic.co.uk/environment-and-conservation/2022/05/fruits-and-vegetables-are-less-nutritious-than-they-used-to-be


    And what fraction of economists are billionaires?

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Tue Oct 31 13:24:10 2023
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 11:44:19 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 10:44:30?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 09:55:51 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
    <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    How an elite clique of math-addled economists hijacked climate policy.

    'WILLIAM NORDHAUS, WHO turned 82 this year, was the first economist in our time to attempt to quantify the cost of climate change. His climate-modeling wizardry, which won him the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences in 2018, has made him one of
    the world’s most consequential thinkers. His ideas have been adopted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, global risk managers, the financial services industry, and universities worldwide that teach
    climate economics. Nordhaus’s work literally could affect the lives of billions of people. This is because his quantification of the immediate costs of climate action — as balanced against the long-term economic harms of not acting — is the basis of key
    proposals to mitigate carbon emissions. It’s not an exaggeration to suggest that the fate of nations and a sizable portion of humanity depends on whether his projections are correct.'

    Useless individual lacks the presence of mind to develop perspective and even do a reality check of his conclusions.

    https://theintercept.com/2023/10/29/william-nordhaus-climate-economics/
    https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/index-of-cereal-production-yield-and-land-use

    Where's the 10% reduction?

    You would be better off eating dirt than modern cereal crops:

    Is that what you do? Got any good dirt recipes?

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  • From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Tue Oct 31 16:17:13 2023
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 4:24:43 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 11:44:19 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 10:44:30?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 09:55:51 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
    <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    How an elite clique of math-addled economists hijacked climate policy. >> >
    'WILLIAM NORDHAUS, WHO turned 82 this year, was the first economist in our time to attempt to quantify the cost of climate change. His climate-modeling wizardry, which won him the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences in 2018, has made him one
    of the world’s most consequential thinkers. His ideas have been adopted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, global risk managers, the financial services industry, and universities worldwide that
    teach climate economics. Nordhaus’s work literally could affect the lives of billions of people. This is because his quantification of the immediate costs of climate action — as balanced against the long-term economic harms of not acting — is the
    basis of key proposals to mitigate carbon emissions. It’s not an exaggeration to suggest that the fate of nations and a sizable portion of humanity depends on whether his projections are correct.'

    Useless individual lacks the presence of mind to develop perspective and even do a reality check of his conclusions.

    https://theintercept.com/2023/10/29/william-nordhaus-climate-economics/ >> https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/index-of-cereal-production-yield-and-land-use

    Where's the 10% reduction?

    You would be better off eating dirt than modern cereal crops:
    Is that what you do? Got any good dirt recipes?

    Actually was just reading about a disease symptom that compelled people to eat dirt.

    'Nutritional deficiencies. People who show signs of pica often have mineral or other deficiencies in their diet. Iron (anemia), calcium and zinc deficiencies are some of the most common reasons people show these signs.'

    If you keep eating that nutrient depleted junk cereal, you just may come down with pica.

    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22944-pica

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Tue Oct 31 17:51:41 2023
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 16:17:13 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 4:24:43?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
    On Tue, 31 Oct 2023 11:44:19 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
    <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, October 31, 2023 at 10:44:30?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 09:55:51 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
    <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    How an elite clique of math-addled economists hijacked climate policy. >> >> >
    'WILLIAM NORDHAUS, WHO turned 82 this year, was the first economist in our time to attempt to quantify the cost of climate change. His climate-modeling wizardry, which won him the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences in 2018, has made him one
    of the world’s most consequential thinkers. His ideas have been adopted by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, global risk managers, the financial services industry, and universities worldwide that
    teach climate economics. Nordhaus’s work literally could affect the lives of billions of people. This is because his quantification of the immediate costs of climate action — as balanced against the long-term economic harms of not acting — is the basis
    of key proposals to mitigate carbon emissions. It’s not an exaggeration to suggest that the fate of nations and a sizable portion of humanity depends on whether his projections are correct.'

    Useless individual lacks the presence of mind to develop perspective and even do a reality check of his conclusions.

    https://theintercept.com/2023/10/29/william-nordhaus-climate-economics/ >> >> https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/index-of-cereal-production-yield-and-land-use

    Where's the 10% reduction?

    You would be better off eating dirt than modern cereal crops:
    Is that what you do? Got any good dirt recipes?

    Actually was just reading about a disease symptom that compelled people to eat dirt.

    'Nutritional deficiencies. People who show signs of pica often have mineral or other deficiencies in their diet. Iron (anemia), calcium and zinc deficiencies are some of the most common reasons people show these signs.'

    If you keep eating that nutrient depleted junk cereal, you just may come down with pica.

    https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/22944-pica




    Cereal is boring. Real Men eat grits and eggs and creme-filled donuts.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Fred Bloggs on Wed Nov 1 02:35:48 2023
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    The idiot Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> persisting in being an Off-topic troll...

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