• After CHatGPT disrupttion, Stack Overflow lays of 28 percent of staff

    From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 17 04:23:15 2023
    After ChatGPT disruption, Stack Overflow lays off 28 percent of staff
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/after-chatgpt-disruption-stack-overflow-lays-off-28-percent-of-staff/
    The popular developer forum is still hunting for a "path to profitability."

    It would be a pity if Stackoverflow disappeared.
    I personally think it is one of the best sites when looking for software solutions, help coding.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Tue Oct 17 13:55:02 2023
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    The arsehole Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> persisting in being an Off-topic troll...

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Tue Oct 17 07:50:58 2023
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 06:23:23 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    After ChatGPT disruption, Stack Overflow lays off 28 percent of staff https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/after-chatgpt-disruption-stack-overflow-lays-off-28-percent-of-staff/
    The popular developer forum is still hunting for a "path to profitability."

    It would be a pity if Stackoverflow disappeared.
    I personally think it is one of the best sites when looking for software solutions, help coding.


    Stackoverflow is total disaster.
    90% of questions asked get no reply at all.

    Few guys earned high ratings and monolized and locked all the chat traffic.

    Questions asked get modified by so called moderators.

    So if your question is laptop specified, it gets modified to be specified to computers in general.

    Stackoverflow is time waster and should be avoided.

    Low quality forum like Medicine is moderated by low IQ guys to keep traffic low.

    Stackoverflow has no future and should be closed

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to a a on Tue Oct 17 07:56:46 2023
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 16:51:03 UTC+2, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 06:23:23 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    After ChatGPT disruption, Stack Overflow lays off 28 percent of staff https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/after-chatgpt-disruption-stack-overflow-lays-off-28-percent-of-staff/
    The popular developer forum is still hunting for a "path to profitability."

    It would be a pity if Stackoverflow disappeared.
    I personally think it is one of the best sites when looking for software solutions, help coding.
    Stackoverflow is total disaster.
    90% of questions asked get no reply at all.

    Few guys earned high ratings and monolized and locked all the chat traffic.

    Questions asked get modified by so called moderators.

    So if your question is laptop specified, it gets modified to be specified to computers in general.

    Stackoverflow is time waster and should be avoided.

    Low quality forum like Medicine is moderated by low IQ guys to keep traffic low.

    Stackoverflow has no future and should be closed


    https://stackoverflow.com/

    Main page is all about marketing spam
    and cookies should be removed for visitors


    No future for low quality services like
    https://stackoverflow.com/

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to manta103g@gmail.com on Tue Oct 17 15:14:36 2023
    On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Oct 2023 07:56:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened a a <manta103g@gmail.com> wrote in <1f5c0cbf-fe32-4e38-abe5-e6c66b7e9a3dn@googlegroups.com>:

    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 16:51:03 UTC+2, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 06:23:23 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    After ChatGPT disruption, Stack Overflow lays off 28 percent of staff
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/after-chatgpt-disruption-stack-overflow-lays-off-28-percent-of-staff/
    The popular developer forum is still hunting for a "path to profitability."

    It would be a pity if Stackoverflow disappeared.
    I personally think it is one of the best sites when looking for software solutions, help coding.
    Stackoverflow is total disaster.
    90% of questions asked get no reply at all.

    Few guys earned high ratings and monolized and locked all the chat traffic. >>
    Questions asked get modified by so called moderators.

    So if your question is laptop specified, it gets modified to be specified to computers in general.

    Stackoverflow is time waster and should be avoided.

    Low quality forum like Medicine is moderated by low IQ guys to keep traffic low.

    Stackoverflow has no future and should be closed


    https://stackoverflow.com/

    Main page is all about marketing spam
    and cookies should be removed for visitors


    No future for low quality services like
    https://stackoverflow.com/

    well I do a lot of coding, sometimes I need some help for syntax or whatever google then shows me stackoverflow replies to that subject.
    Most of the time (very few exceptions) my question is answered right there. Have you ever written some code, as J.Larkin would say: 'if so show us some'.

    AI programs also use google to find solutions, good and bad ones! does it know coding? should I trust AI?
    Considering the funny crap my tests of AI produced I prefer a human being with experience.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 17 15:08:32 2023


    Darius the Dumb has posted yet one more #veryStupidByLowIQaa article.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Tue Oct 17 08:26:51 2023
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 17:14:48 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Oct 2023 07:56:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote in
    <1f5c0cbf-fe32-4e38...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 16:51:03 UTC+2, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 06:23:23 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    After ChatGPT disruption, Stack Overflow lays off 28 percent of staff
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/after-chatgpt-disruption-stack-overflow-lays-off-28-percent-of-staff/
    The popular developer forum is still hunting for a "path to profitability."

    It would be a pity if Stackoverflow disappeared.
    I personally think it is one of the best sites when looking for software solutions, help coding.
    Stackoverflow is total disaster.
    90% of questions asked get no reply at all.

    Few guys earned high ratings and monolized and locked all the chat traffic.

    Questions asked get modified by so called moderators.

    So if your question is laptop specified, it gets modified to be specified to computers in general.

    Stackoverflow is time waster and should be avoided.

    Low quality forum like Medicine is moderated by low IQ guys to keep traffic low.

    Stackoverflow has no future and should be closed


    https://stackoverflow.com/

    Main page is all about marketing spam
    and cookies should be removed for visitors


    No future for low quality services like
    https://stackoverflow.com/
    well I do a lot of coding, sometimes I need some help for syntax or whatever google then shows me stackoverflow replies to that subject.
    Most of the time (very few exceptions) my question is answered right there. Have you ever written some code, as J.Larkin would say: 'if so show us some'.

    AI programs also use google to find solutions, good and bad ones! does it know coding? should I trust AI?
    Considering the funny crap my tests of AI produced I prefer a human being with experience.


    My interest today is built around SDR RTL DVB-T dongles
    and RTL decoder to read and decode data sent by multi- TPMS sensors
    and generate charts in smartphone app.

    My another interest is built around
    360 surround multi-camera monitoring system for my car in HTML5

    Stackoverflow is not the right contact place with my questions ( as verified in the past)

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 17 15:27:41 2023


    Yet one more #veryStupidByLowIQaa post.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to manta103g@gmail.com on Tue Oct 17 16:48:07 2023
    On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Oct 2023 08:26:51 -0700 (PDT)) it happened a a <manta103g@gmail.com> wrote in <6fe64912-9487-4e70-81f8-4cebdc6b52abn@googlegroups.com>:

    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 17:14:48 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Oct 2023 07:56:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened a a
    <mant...@gmail.com> wrote in
    <1f5c0cbf-fe32-4e38...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 16:51:03 UTC+2, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 06:23:23 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    After ChatGPT disruption, Stack Overflow lays off 28 percent of staff >> >> > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/after-chatgpt-disruption-stack-overflow-lays-off-28-percent-of-staff/
    The popular developer forum is still hunting for a "path to profitability."

    It would be a pity if Stackoverflow disappeared.
    I personally think it is one of the best sites when looking for software solutions, help coding.
    Stackoverflow is total disaster.
    90% of questions asked get no reply at all.

    Few guys earned high ratings and monolized and locked all the chat traffic.

    Questions asked get modified by so called moderators.

    So if your question is laptop specified, it gets modified to be specified to computers in general.

    Stackoverflow is time waster and should be avoided.

    Low quality forum like Medicine is moderated by low IQ guys to keep traffic low.

    Stackoverflow has no future and should be closed


    https://stackoverflow.com/

    Main page is all about marketing spam
    and cookies should be removed for visitors


    No future for low quality services like
    https://stackoverflow.com/
    well I do a lot of coding, sometimes I need some help for syntax or whatever >> google then shows me stackoverflow replies to that subject.
    Most of the time (very few exceptions) my question is answered right there. >> Have you ever written some code, as J.Larkin would say: 'if so show us some'.

    AI programs also use google to find solutions, good and bad ones! does it know coding? should I trust AI?
    Considering the funny crap my tests of AI produced I prefer a human being with experience.


    My interest today is built around SDR RTL DVB-T dongles
    and RTL decoder to read and decode data sent by multi- TPMS sensors
    and generate charts in smartphone app.

    I have 4 RTL-SDR sticks in use, some 1 ppm ones, AIS receiver, air traffic receiver (use dump1090, spectrum analyzer with FM stero receiver, ham radio and TV,
    some code here:
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xpsa/index.html
    I run a Raspberry Pi with Apache as web server... on the LAN.
    And also this one:
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xgpspc/index.html
    My website is hosted by antagonist.nl and should also be visible on a smartphone.
    I have not tried writing smartphone apps... Do you use Java?





    My another interest is built around
    360 surround multi-camera monitoring system for my car in HTML5

    I have a 360 degrees around security camera system at home here recording 24/7 to a 4 TB Toshiba disc connected to a Raspberry Pi4 4GB.


    Stackoverflow is not the right contact place with my questions ( as verified in the past)

    Google is basically my search engine and I am always relieved if it points me to stackoverflow as it scores very good.
    It find other things too, but maybe the Stackoverflow peer review guarantees some quality.

    Do you release any code in the public domain?

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Tue Oct 17 20:25:26 2023
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    The arsehole Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> persisting in being an Off-topic troll...

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Tue Oct 17 14:01:43 2023
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 18:48:16 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Oct 2023 08:26:51 -0700 (PDT)) it happened a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote in
    <6fe64912-9487-4e70...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 17:14:48 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Oct 2023 07:56:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened a a
    <mant...@gmail.com> wrote in
    <1f5c0cbf-fe32-4e38...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 16:51:03 UTC+2, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 06:23:23 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    After ChatGPT disruption, Stack Overflow lays off 28 percent of staff
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/after-chatgpt-disruption-stack-overflow-lays-off-28-percent-of-staff/
    The popular developer forum is still hunting for a "path to profitability."

    It would be a pity if Stackoverflow disappeared.
    I personally think it is one of the best sites when looking for software solutions, help coding.
    Stackoverflow is total disaster.
    90% of questions asked get no reply at all.

    Few guys earned high ratings and monolized and locked all the chat traffic.

    Questions asked get modified by so called moderators.

    So if your question is laptop specified, it gets modified to be specified to computers in general.

    Stackoverflow is time waster and should be avoided.

    Low quality forum like Medicine is moderated by low IQ guys to keep traffic low.

    Stackoverflow has no future and should be closed


    https://stackoverflow.com/

    Main page is all about marketing spam
    and cookies should be removed for visitors


    No future for low quality services like
    https://stackoverflow.com/
    well I do a lot of coding, sometimes I need some help for syntax or whatever
    google then shows me stackoverflow replies to that subject.
    Most of the time (very few exceptions) my question is answered right there.
    Have you ever written some code, as J.Larkin would say: 'if so show us some'.

    AI programs also use google to find solutions, good and bad ones! does it know coding? should I trust AI?
    Considering the funny crap my tests of AI produced I prefer a human being with experience.


    My interest today is built around SDR RTL DVB-T dongles
    and RTL decoder to read and decode data sent by multi- TPMS sensors
    and generate charts in smartphone app.
    I have 4 RTL-SDR sticks in use, some 1 ppm ones, AIS receiver, air traffic receiver (use dump1090, spectrum analyzer with FM stero receiver, ham radio and TV,
    some code here:
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xpsa/index.html
    I run a Raspberry Pi with Apache as web server... on the LAN.
    And also this one:
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xgpspc/index.html
    My website is hosted by antagonist.nl and should also be visible on a smartphone.
    I have not tried writing smartphone apps... Do you use Java?
    My another interest is built around
    360 surround multi-camera monitoring system for my car in HTML5
    I have a 360 degrees around security camera system at home here recording 24/7 to a 4 TB Toshiba disc connected to a Raspberry Pi4 4GB.
    Stackoverflow is not the right contact place with my questions ( as verified in the past)
    Google is basically my search engine and I am always relieved if it points me to stackoverflow as it scores very good.
    It find other things too, but maybe the Stackoverflow peer review guarantees some quality.

    Do you release any code in the public domain?

    HTML5 code is open by default
    Python code is as is.

    My DVB-T dongle by media-tech is RTL based
    but I get no signal in SDRConsole app (for Windows)

    I was told I need to get
    TUNER RTL2832U + R820T2 heterodyne tuning

    It's not easy to verify is the offered RTL DVB-T dongle can work as SDR
    and can read data from pressure/ temperature sensors ( Tire Pressure Monitoring System kit made of solar computer + 4 external pressure/temperature sensors.

    www.websdr.nl works fine
    as waterfall

    So I would prefer Python for charting

    "People also ask
    What is Python for Android?python-for-android is a packaging tool for Python apps on Android. You can create your own Python distribution including the modules and dependencies you want, and bundle it in an APK or AAB along with your own code. Different
    app backends including Kivy, PySDL2, and a WebView with Python webserver. python-for-android · PyPI
    pypi.org/project/python-for-android/
    What is qpython for Android?It lets your android device run Python scripts and projects. It contains the Python interpreter, console, editor, and the SL4A Library for Android. QPython has several millions users in the world already, it's a great project
    for programming users, welcome to join us for contributing to this project NOW. QPython - Best Mobile Python Engine
    www.qpython.org/

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 17 21:06:58 2023


    Darius the Dumb has posted yet one more #veryStupidByLowIQaa article.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to a a on Tue Oct 17 15:44:04 2023
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 23:01:49 UTC+2, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 18:48:16 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Oct 2023 08:26:51 -0700 (PDT)) it happened a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote in
    <6fe64912-9487-4e70...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 17:14:48 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Oct 2023 07:56:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened a a >> <mant...@gmail.com> wrote in
    <1f5c0cbf-fe32-4e38...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 16:51:03 UTC+2, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 06:23:23 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> >> > After ChatGPT disruption, Stack Overflow lays off 28 percent of staff
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/after-chatgpt-disruption-stack-overflow-lays-off-28-percent-of-staff/
    The popular developer forum is still hunting for a "path to profitability."

    It would be a pity if Stackoverflow disappeared.
    I personally think it is one of the best sites when looking for software solutions, help coding.
    Stackoverflow is total disaster.
    90% of questions asked get no reply at all.

    Few guys earned high ratings and monolized and locked all the chat traffic.

    Questions asked get modified by so called moderators.

    So if your question is laptop specified, it gets modified to be specified to computers in general.

    Stackoverflow is time waster and should be avoided.

    Low quality forum like Medicine is moderated by low IQ guys to keep traffic low.

    Stackoverflow has no future and should be closed


    https://stackoverflow.com/

    Main page is all about marketing spam
    and cookies should be removed for visitors


    No future for low quality services like
    https://stackoverflow.com/
    well I do a lot of coding, sometimes I need some help for syntax or whatever
    google then shows me stackoverflow replies to that subject.
    Most of the time (very few exceptions) my question is answered right there.
    Have you ever written some code, as J.Larkin would say: 'if so show us some'.

    AI programs also use google to find solutions, good and bad ones! does it know coding? should I trust AI?
    Considering the funny crap my tests of AI produced I prefer a human being with experience.


    My interest today is built around SDR RTL DVB-T dongles
    and RTL decoder to read and decode data sent by multi- TPMS sensors
    and generate charts in smartphone app.
    I have 4 RTL-SDR sticks in use, some 1 ppm ones, AIS receiver, air traffic receiver (use dump1090, spectrum analyzer with FM stero receiver, ham radio and TV,
    some code here:
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xpsa/index.html
    I run a Raspberry Pi with Apache as web server... on the LAN.
    And also this one:
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xgpspc/index.html
    My website is hosted by antagonist.nl and should also be visible on a smartphone.
    I have not tried writing smartphone apps... Do you use Java?
    My another interest is built around
    360 surround multi-camera monitoring system for my car in HTML5
    I have a 360 degrees around security camera system at home here recording 24/7 to a 4 TB Toshiba disc connected to a Raspberry Pi4 4GB.
    Stackoverflow is not the right contact place with my questions ( as verified in the past)
    Google is basically my search engine and I am always relieved if it points me to stackoverflow as it scores very good.
    It find other things too, but maybe the Stackoverflow peer review guarantees some quality.

    Do you release any code in the public domain?
    HTML5 code is open by default
    Python code is as is.

    My DVB-T dongle by media-tech is RTL based
    but I get no signal in SDRConsole app (for Windows)

    I was told I need to get
    TUNER RTL2832U + R820T2 heterodyne tuning

    It's not easy to verify is the offered RTL DVB-T dongle can work as SDR
    and can read data from pressure/ temperature sensors ( Tire Pressure Monitoring System kit made of solar computer + 4 external pressure/temperature sensors.

    www.websdr.nl works fine
    as waterfall

    So I would prefer Python for charting

    "People also ask
    What is Python for Android?python-for-android is a packaging tool for Python apps on Android. You can create your own Python distribution including the modules and dependencies you want, and bundle it in an APK or AAB along with your own code.
    Different app backends including Kivy, PySDL2, and a WebView with Python webserver.
    python-for-android · PyPI
    pypi.org/project/python-for-android/
    What is qpython for Android?It lets your android device run Python scripts and projects. It contains the Python interpreter, console, editor, and the SL4A Library for Android. QPython has several millions users in the world already, it's a great
    project for programming users, welcome to join us for contributing to this project NOW.
    QPython - Best Mobile Python Engine
    www.qpython.org/

    sorry
    \
    http://websdr.camras.nl:8901/

    My TPMS pressure sensors operate at

    RF Transmission frequency: 433.92MHz

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 17 23:26:09 2023


    Darius the Dumb has posted yet one more #veryStupidByLowIQaa article.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to a a on Tue Oct 17 19:56:54 2023
    On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 1:51:03 AM UTC+11, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 06:23:23 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    After ChatGPT disruption, Stack Overflow lays off 28 percent of staff https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/after-chatgpt-disruption-stack-overflow-lays-off-28-percent-of-staff/
    The popular developer forum is still hunting for a "path to profitability."

    It would be a pity if Stackoverflow disappeared.
    I personally think it is one of the best sites when looking for software solutions, help coding.

    Stackoverflow is total disaster.
    90% of questions asked get no reply at all.

    Few guys earned high ratings and monolized and locked all the chat traffic.

    And a a clearly wouldn't get a high rating and would be locked out. It would be nice if we could lock him out of s.e.d. but this is an unmoderated group so we don't have the option.

    Questions asked get modified by so called moderators.

    So if your question is laptop specified, it gets modified to be specified to computers in general.

    Not necessarily. A a is stupid, so he doesn't understand why his question might need to be re-phrased

    Stackoverflow is time waster and should be avoided.

    Low quality forum like Medicine is moderated by low IQ guys to keep traffic low.

    A a doesn't realise that he is low IQ guy. In terms of the usefulness of the waddle he posts his IQ is probably negative,

    Stackoverflow has no future and should be closed.

    So should a a. He ought to win a Darwin Award sometime soon, but evolution is a random process, and we can't rely on it to delete him from the gene pool.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to manta103g@gmail.com on Wed Oct 18 05:33:26 2023
    On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Oct 2023 14:01:43 -0700 (PDT)) it happened a a <manta103g@gmail.com> wrote in <3c1d58bb-a658-4e73-a589-6506550a0b00n@googlegroups.com>:

    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 18:48:16 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Oct 2023 08:26:51 -0700 (PDT)) it happened a a
    <mant...@gmail.com> wrote in
    <6fe64912-9487-4e70...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 17:14:48 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 17 Oct 2023 07:56:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened a a=

    <mant...@gmail.com> wrote in
    <1f5c0cbf-fe32-4e38...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 16:51:03 UTC+2, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 06:23:23 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:=

    After ChatGPT disruption, Stack Overflow lays off 28 percent of s= >taff
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/after-chatgpt-disruption-= >stack-overflow-lays-off-28-percent-of-staff/
    The popular developer forum is still hunting for a "path to profi= >tability."

    It would be a pity if Stackoverflow disappeared.
    I personally think it is one of the best sites when looking for s= >oftware solutions, help coding.
    Stackoverflow is total disaster.
    90% of questions asked get no reply at all.

    Few guys earned high ratings and monolized and locked all the chat = >traffic.

    Questions asked get modified by so called moderators.

    So if your question is laptop specified, it gets modified to be spe= >cified to computers in general.

    Stackoverflow is time waster and should be avoided.

    Low quality forum like Medicine is moderated by low IQ guys to keep=
    traffic low.

    Stackoverflow has no future and should be closed


    https://stackoverflow.com/

    Main page is all about marketing spam
    and cookies should be removed for visitors


    No future for low quality services like
    https://stackoverflow.com/
    well I do a lot of coding, sometimes I need some help for syntax or wh= >atever
    google then shows me stackoverflow replies to that subject.
    Most of the time (very few exceptions) my question is answered right t= >here.
    Have you ever written some code, as J.Larkin would say: 'if so show us=
    some'.

    AI programs also use google to find solutions, good and bad ones! does=
    it know coding? should I trust AI?
    Considering the funny crap my tests of AI produced I prefer a human be= >ing with experience.


    My interest today is built around SDR RTL DVB-T dongles
    and RTL decoder to read and decode data sent by multi- TPMS sensors
    and generate charts in smartphone app.
    I have 4 RTL-SDR sticks in use, some 1 ppm ones, AIS receiver, air traffi= >c receiver (use dump1090, spectrum analyzer with FM stero receiver, ham rad= >io and TV,
    some code here:
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xpsa/index.html
    I run a Raspberry Pi with Apache as web server... on the LAN.
    And also this one:
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/xgpspc/index.html
    My website is hosted by antagonist.nl and should also be visible on a sma= >rtphone.
    I have not tried writing smartphone apps... Do you use Java?
    My another interest is built around
    360 surround multi-camera monitoring system for my car in HTML5
    I have a 360 degrees around security camera system at home here recording=
    24/7 to a 4 TB Toshiba disc connected to a Raspberry Pi4 4GB.
    Stackoverflow is not the right contact place with my questions ( as veri= >fied in the past)
    Google is basically my search engine and I am always relieved if it point= >s me to stackoverflow as it scores very good.
    It find other things too, but maybe the Stackoverflow peer review guarant= >ees some quality.

    Do you release any code in the public domain?

    HTML5 code is open by default
    Python code is as is.

    I do not speak a word Python!


    My DVB-T dongle by media-tech is RTL based
    but I get no signal in SDRConsole app (for Windows)

    I do not use Microsoft windows at all, all Linux and just C or asm for different micros code here (Microchip PIC asm mostly).


    I was told I need to get
    TUNER RTL2832U + R820T2 heterodyne tuning

    What is the frequency of the sensors you are listening for?
    The sdr-rtl sticks go up to about 1.5 GHz, the normal ones start at about 24 MHz or so IIRC
    I build a converter for 2.4 GHz WiFi, and have a converter I bought but never used for shortwave radio.


    It's not easy to verify is the offered RTL DVB-T dongle can work as SDR
    and can read data from pressure/ temperature sensors ( Tire Pressure Monito= >ring System kit made of solar computer + 4 external pressure/temperature se= >nsors.

    Normal RF sensors modules work in the 433 MHz range
    I use an open source program called rtl433 (Linux) with an rtl-sdr stick to read the temperature and air pressure from the
    sensor in the garden, rtl433 supports many 433 MHz sensor formats
    https://www.rtl-sdr.com/rtl433-plugin-for-sdr-now-available/

    But I also get air pressure from an Optamex SPC01 module connected to a Raspberry Pi GPIO using i2c,
    that module gives me magnetic compass too.


    www.websdr.nl works fine
    as waterfall

    Yes, tried it, but I never use waterfall displays.


    So I would prefer Python for charting

    asm and C for me.
    asm to have full control of the chip registers and facilities, better speed sometimes.
    C as it is universal and no more is needed if you even know a few basics. Libraries are available in C for almost anything.
    The less you depend on external code the better, again and again I am confronted with libraries
    that no longer work right as systems keep changing (and not always for the better).
    The more code I have that needs no libraries the better.
    The world is filled with bloat by people who no longer know anything about the hardware.
    To the point where saying 'Hello world' need hundreds of MB ...
    Try controlling a drone with a few lines of asm:
    https://panteltje.nl/panteltje/quadcopter/index.html
    in one small chip!

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Wed Oct 18 15:59:32 2023
    On 18/10/2023 03:56, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Wednesday, October 18, 2023 at 1:51:03 AM UTC+11, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 17 October 2023 at 06:23:23 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    After ChatGPT disruption, Stack Overflow lays off 28 percent of staff
    https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2023/10/after-chatgpt-disruption-stack-overflow-lays-off-28-percent-of-staff/
    The popular developer forum is still hunting for a "path to profitability." >>>
    It would be a pity if Stackoverflow disappeared.
    I personally think it is one of the best sites when looking for software solutions, help coding.

    Stackoverflow is total disaster.
    90% of questions asked get no reply at all.

    Probably because they are so stupid they don't deserve an answer.

    StackOverflow's problem is that clueless idiots prefer nice friendly but incorrect advice from a GPTchatbot to correct terse and sometimes rather
    abrupt advice from an expert giving their time away for nothing.

    Few guys earned high ratings and monolized and locked all the chat traffic.

    And a a clearly wouldn't get a high rating and would be locked out. It would be nice if we could lock him out of s.e.d. but this is an unmoderated group so we don't have the option.

    Kill files are a wonderful thing. I don't see the A a creep at all
    unless someone reposts their drivel. He has delusions of adequacy.

    --
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  • From upsidedown@downunder.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 00:02:46 2023
    On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 05:33:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:


    What is the frequency of the sensors you are listening for?
    The sdr-rtl sticks go up to about 1.5 GHz, the normal ones start at about 24 MHz or so IIRC
    I build a converter for 2.4 GHz WiFi, and have a converter I bought but never used for shortwave radio.


    The problem with DVB-T dongles on shortwave is to find a dongle that
    goes into the HF range. Worst of all, the ADC is only 8 nit for
    receiving 64QAM. Due to the huge variations in signal strengths on the
    MF/HF bands, you have to use a.g.c in front of the ADC. Alternatively
    you have to use strong selectivity in front of the ADC to keep
    unwanted very strong signals away from the ADC if you want to receive
    weak signals.Both reasons make it hard to receive multiple
    simultaneous signals at the same time at wildly different
    frequencies.

    DVB-T2 receivers must handle also 256QAM, so a netter ADC is required,
    which might survive on HF bands without a.g.c. Have you found any
    DXV-T2 dongles suitable for general reception ?

    14 bit ADCs are often used to digitize the whole 0 to 30 MHz band at
    once, but even those ADCs can suffer from very strong local signals.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to upsidedown@downunder.com on Thu Oct 19 06:03:30 2023
    On a sunny day (Thu, 19 Oct 2023 00:02:46 +0300) it happened upsidedown@downunder.com wrote in
    <ive0jipaluo70rp6l7cv4c2s13i91t8jka@4ax.com>:

    On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 05:33:26 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:


    What is the frequency of the sensors you are listening for?
    The sdr-rtl sticks go up to about 1.5 GHz, the normal ones start at about 24 MHz or so IIRC
    I build a converter for 2.4 GHz WiFi, and have a converter I bought but never used for shortwave radio.


    The problem with DVB-T dongles on shortwave is to find a dongle that
    goes into the HF range. Worst of all, the ADC is only 8 nit for
    receiving 64QAM. Due to the huge variations in signal strengths on the
    MF/HF bands, you have to use a.g.c in front of the ADC. Alternatively
    you have to use strong selectivity in front of the ADC to keep
    unwanted very strong signals away from the ADC if you want to receive
    weak signals.Both reasons make it hard to receive multiple
    simultaneous signals at the same time at wildly different
    frequencies.

    DVB-T2 receivers must handle also 256QAM, so a netter ADC is required,
    which might survive on HF bands without a.g.c. Have you found any
    DXV-T2 dongles suitable for general reception ?

    I have a DVB-T2 receiver box from ebay, so never had use for a DVB-T2 dongle. did not even know those existed..
    Could be interesting.


    As for shortwave: I have a Tecsun PL600 AM FM SSB portable, very nice thing. and a big Ranger 100 W transceiver for 27 MHz.
    Am not active at all on shortwave.
    I have used the Tecsun to receive digital marine data on long wave for example. Many shortwave ham stations come out OK on SSB with it.

    (and I have a Casio radio watch that gets the time and date from DCF, a similar clock too).



    14 bit ADCs are often used to digitize the whole 0 to 30 MHz band at
    once, but even those ADCs can suffer from very strong local signals.

    Yes, there is so much RFI here from wallwarts, next door roof solar panels, what not.

    Satellite is the way to go for clean reception, QO100,
    but my dish is here high up against the wall so not much into climbing ladders risking my life swapping LNBs and all that.
    So no ham activity here (well not counting 70 cm, there area a few networks here, but 70 cm has become more like what CB used to be
    and last time I listened was a total chaotic crap not even going by minimal ham rules).
    Was considering cancelling my Ham license, costs some Euros every year.

    Anyways satellite and shortwave may come in handy to verify if there is any intelligent? life left
    in the coming WW3 in 2024.
    Last time that ****head biden visited Russia a war started in Europe, and now he visited Israel sure he, being
    a puppet of the US Military Industrial Complex, will have tried very hard to create an other lasting war in the Middle East.
    Sanctions on Russia, China and North Korea; US has so many enemies now that it will go the way of the Roman empire.
    NATO is just a US weapon sales operation, using communist fear and Mafia practices to force people to buy.

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  • From upsidedown@downunder.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 14:31:29 2023
    On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 06:03:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:


    14 bit ADCs are often used to digitize the whole 0 to 30 MHz band at
    once, but even those ADCs can suffer from very strong local signals.

    Yes, there is so much RFI here from wallwarts, next door roof solar panels, what not.

    One way to live with local RFI is to use a remote receiver located at
    a low noise location and then carry the received signal over the
    internet to your home.

    For instance KiviSDR allows simultaneously picking up 4 signals from
    anywhere in the VLF/LF/MF/HF bands and serve up to 4 different
    internet user (or 4 completely different signals for a single user).

    For two-way communications especially at 50 MHz and above, do not pick
    the receiver site too far from the Tx site, since the sporadic-E
    propagation to different sites may be different.

    Alternatively have a remote controlled transceiver at your summer
    cottage and remote control the transceiver over internet from your
    city apartment.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to upsidedown@downunder.com on Thu Oct 19 14:41:18 2023
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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to upsidedown@downunder.com on Thu Oct 19 16:01:31 2023
    On a sunny day (Thu, 19 Oct 2023 14:31:29 +0300) it happened upsidedown@downunder.com wrote in
    <6o32ji58k6n77er43epu8n78lg0594saon@4ax.com>:

    On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 06:03:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:


    14 bit ADCs are often used to digitize the whole 0 to 30 MHz band at >>>once, but even those ADCs can suffer from very strong local signals.

    Yes, there is so much RFI here from wallwarts, next door roof solar panels, what not.

    One way to live with local RFI is to use a remote receiver located at
    a low noise location and then carry the received signal over the
    internet to your home.

    For instance KiviSDR allows simultaneously picking up 4 signals from
    anywhere in the VLF/LF/MF/HF bands and serve up to 4 different
    internet user (or 4 completely different signals for a single user).

    Yes, there is the receiver from University Twente here:
    http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/



    For two-way communications especially at 50 MHz and above, do not pick
    the receiver site too far from the Tx site, since the sporadic-E
    propagation to different sites may be different.

    Above about 20 MHz the RFI is much less here.

    You can receive QO100 ham satellite online too:
    https://eshail.batc.org.uk/nb/

    You will still need a huge 2.4 GHz dish for upload...



    Alternatively have a remote controlled transceiver at your summer
    cottage and remote control the transceiver over internet from your
    city apartment.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Thu Oct 19 10:27:14 2023
    On Thursday, 19 October 2023 at 18:01:40 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Thu, 19 Oct 2023 14:31:29 +0300) it happened upsid...@downunder.com wrote in
    <6o32ji58k6n77er43...@4ax.com>:
    On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 06:03:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid> >wrote:


    14 bit ADCs are often used to digitize the whole 0 to 30 MHz band at >>>once, but even those ADCs can suffer from very strong local signals.

    Yes, there is so much RFI here from wallwarts, next door roof solar panels, what not.

    One way to live with local RFI is to use a remote receiver located at
    a low noise location and then carry the received signal over the
    internet to your home.

    For instance KiviSDR allows simultaneously picking up 4 signals from >anywhere in the VLF/LF/MF/HF bands and serve up to 4 different
    internet user (or 4 completely different signals for a single user).
    Yes, there is the receiver from University Twente here: http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
    For two-way communications especially at 50 MHz and above, do not pick
    the receiver site too far from the Tx site, since the sporadic-E >propagation to different sites may be different.
    Above about 20 MHz the RFI is much less here.

    You can receive QO100 ham satellite online too: https://eshail.batc.org.uk/nb/

    You will still need a huge 2.4 GHz dish for upload...
    Alternatively have a remote controlled transceiver at your summer
    cottage and remote control the transceiver over internet from your
    city apartment.


    Thank you for your excellent SDR job.

    It may be too heavy to read pressure data from solar TPMS via SDR connected to smartphone via USB, Bluetooth to get data charted

    https://media.s-bol.com/3lqD12Vw2rY9/original.pdf

    RF Transmission frequency: 433.92MHz

    so I am looking for a solution to read pressure data directly from solar TPMS computer via USB port connected
    to Android smartphone.

    Connecting solar TPMS to PC via USB cable,
    data pins look to be active but no drive available

    So it may take some time to get solar TPMS connected to my Android smartphone for pressure + temperature data transfer

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 19 17:51:40 2023


    Darius the Dumb has posted yet one more #veryStupidByLowIQaa article.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to manta103g@gmail.com on Fri Oct 20 06:19:02 2023
    On a sunny day (Thu, 19 Oct 2023 10:27:14 -0700 (PDT)) it happened a a <manta103g@gmail.com> wrote in <f349c29c-2147-4dd1-9545-ae7271f8b1b1n@googlegroups.com>:

    On Thursday, 19 October 2023 at 18:01:40 UTC+2, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Thu, 19 Oct 2023 14:31:29 +0300) it happened
    upsid...@downunder.com wrote in
    <6o32ji58k6n77er43...@4ax.com>:
    On Thu, 19 Oct 2023 06:03:30 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid>
    wrote:


    14 bit ADCs are often used to digitize the whole 0 to 30 MHz band at
    once, but even those ADCs can suffer from very strong local signals.

    Yes, there is so much RFI here from wallwarts, next door roof solar panels, what not.

    One way to live with local RFI is to use a remote receiver located at
    a low noise location and then carry the received signal over the
    internet to your home.

    For instance KiviSDR allows simultaneously picking up 4 signals from
    anywhere in the VLF/LF/MF/HF bands and serve up to 4 different
    internet user (or 4 completely different signals for a single user).
    Yes, there is the receiver from University Twente here:
    http://websdr.ewi.utwente.nl:8901/
    For two-way communications especially at 50 MHz and above, do not pick
    the receiver site too far from the Tx site, since the sporadic-E
    propagation to different sites may be different.
    Above about 20 MHz the RFI is much less here.

    You can receive QO100 ham satellite online too:
    https://eshail.batc.org.uk/nb/

    You will still need a huge 2.4 GHz dish for upload...
    Alternatively have a remote controlled transceiver at your summer
    cottage and remote control the transceiver over internet from your
    city apartment.


    Thank you for your excellent SDR job.

    It may be too heavy to read pressure data from solar TPMS via SDR connected to smartphone via USB, Bluetooth to get data
    charted

    https://media.s-bol.com/3lqD12Vw2rY9/original.pdf

    RF Transmission frequency: 433.92MHz

    so I am looking for a solution to read pressure data directly from solar TPMS computer via USB port connected
    to Android smartphone.

    Connecting solar TPMS to PC via USB cable,
    data pins look to be active but no drive available

    So it may take some time to get solar TPMS connected to my Android smartphone for pressure + temperature data transfer

    Hard to tell if that solar TPMS does actualy sent data via USB (documentation)?

    My solution would be: get a Raspberry PI, run Apache webserver on it, put SDR stick in it, run rtl_433 and activate WiFi,
    make a website with the data you want to see.
    Then the smartphone should be able to connect to the WiFi and access that website.
    No wires to the smartphone needed?
    Have not tried it though.
    You could also hang an OLED or LCD display on the Raspberry to display the data, no smartphone, WiFi needed.
    https://panteltje.nl/pub/lm096_oled_raspi_date_to_oled_IXIMG_0777.JPG
    https://panteltje.nl/pub/raspi4_oled_IXIMG_0776.JPG
    simple few wire connection
    those small OLED modules are very cheap, 3 USD or so.

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