• Extreme Drought Drives Australian Farm Workers To Suicide

    From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 6 07:36:45 2023
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Fri Oct 6 18:15:16 2023
    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    I don't accept the premise. It seems everything in your universe is climate-related. Farmers in the UK are also the highest proportion of
    people who commit suicide and I can promise you there is no drought in
    the UK!

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  • From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Fri Oct 6 12:58:03 2023
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 1:15:26 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html
    I don't accept the premise. It seems everything in your universe is climate-related. Farmers in the UK are also the highest proportion of
    people who commit suicide and I can promise you there is no drought in
    the UK!

    That's not even close to the facts:

    https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/adhocs/13674suicidebyoccupationenglandandwales2011to2020registrations

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Fred Bloggs on Fri Oct 6 21:58:07 2023
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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Fri Oct 6 21:23:46 2023
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 4:15:26 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    I don't accept the premise. It seems everything in your universe is climate-related. Farmers in the UK are also the highest proportion of
    people who commit suicide and I can promise you there is no drought in
    the UK!

    Pretty much everything in the farming universe is climate related. Drought is just one form of climate induced stress.
    If you don't get the rain you need when you need it, you lose your crop. If you get too much at the wrong time, you lose it too,

    Global warming actually implies more rain, rather than less, but it can fall in the wrong place at the wrong time. This is why "climate change" had replaced "global warming".

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bill.sloman@ieee.org on Sat Oct 7 11:53:21 2023
    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 21:23:46 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 4:15:26?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
    <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    I don't accept the premise. It seems everything in your universe is
    climate-related. Farmers in the UK are also the highest proportion of
    people who commit suicide and I can promise you there is no drought in
    the UK!

    Pretty much everything in the farming universe is climate related. Drought is just one form of climate induced stress.
    If you don't get the rain you need when you need it, you lose your crop. If you get too much at the wrong time, you lose it too,

    Global warming actually implies more rain, rather than less, but it can fall in the wrong place at the wrong time. This is why "climate change" had replaced "global warming".

    Oh, and there was me thinking it was because "global warming" had
    become so widely ridiculed.

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  • From Dean Hoffman@21:1/5 to Fred Bloggs on Sat Oct 7 04:38:30 2023
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50 AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States.
    What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual?

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Oct 7 04:58:36 2023
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:53:30 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 21:23:46 -0700 (PDT), Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 4:15:26?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
    <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    I don't accept the premise. It seems everything in your universe is
    climate-related. Farmers in the UK are also the highest proportion of
    people who commit suicide and I can promise you there is no drought in
    the UK!

    Pretty much everything in the farming universe is climate related. Drought is just one form of climate induced stress.
    If you don't get the rain you need when you need it, you lose your crop. If you get too much at the wrong time, you lose it too,

    Global warming actually implies more rain, rather than less, but it can fall in the wrong place at the wrong time. This is why "climate change" had replaced "global warming".

    Oh, and there was me thinking it was because "global warming" had become so widely ridiculed.

    Ridiculed isn't quite the right word. The fossil carbon extraction has spent quite a lot of money on climate change denial propaganda, and that propaganda is widely ridiculed.

    The climate change denial propaganda does take the attitude that climate change isn't happening, but they prefer to ignore the evidence, rather trying trying to claim that it is comically inept (which it isn't, unlike your attempts to promote cherry-
    picked inept atmospheric CO2 level measurements from the 1890s as proof that today's much more accurate measurements should be ignored).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to deanh6929@gmail.com on Sat Oct 7 14:04:43 2023
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
    <deanh6929@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States.
    What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual?

    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for
    global warming. That's all.

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  • From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Sat Oct 7 06:08:53 2023
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 12:23:51 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 4:15:26 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    I don't accept the premise. It seems everything in your universe is climate-related. Farmers in the UK are also the highest proportion of people who commit suicide and I can promise you there is no drought in
    the UK!
    Pretty much everything in the farming universe is climate related. Drought is just one form of climate induced stress.
    If you don't get the rain you need when you need it, you lose your crop. If you get too much at the wrong time, you lose it too,

    Global warming actually implies more rain, rather than less, but it can fall in the wrong place at the wrong time. This is why "climate change" had replaced "global warming".

    There's much more to it than total rainfall. Torrential downpours or even heavy rains that occur at a rate too fast to be absorbed by the soil don't supply nearly as much water as a simple rain gauge reading would imply, most of the water just washes
    away. A real severe torrential can beat a crop into the ground and destroy it. And if the rain occurs after an extended dry period, the soil surface becomes hard and hydrophobic, most of the time, causing near zero water absorption in areas with any kind
    of grade to them. It doesn't take much grade for water to run away to the nearest pool.

    The point of the article is that an 'excess' in suicide deaths in the farm community can be expected due to climate change and its calamitous effects on production.



    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Oct 7 06:20:02 2023
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:04:51 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
    <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States.
    What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual?

    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for global warming. That's all.

    Not at all. Rational people (Cursitor Doom isn't one of them) are aware that anthropogenic global warming has been going on for some thirty years now, and are paying attention to some of it's consequences.

    Agriculture in Australia has always been tricky, and climate change is making the weather even more unpredictable than it has been for the last end ten thousand - human beings have been living in Australia for the last 50,000 years, so the locals can
    remember the most recent episode of global warming at the end of the last ice age. It was sort of eventful - the land bridge to Tasmania got submerged.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to Dean Hoffman on Sat Oct 7 06:25:33 2023
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 7:38:35 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50 AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html
    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States.
    What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual?

    Intensity of drought is usually gauged in terms of economic loss. If it's bad enough to cause a 40% reduction in yield, like what's happening in parts of Europe right now, that's what's called a pretty bad drought. I don't know what the stats are on that
    Australian drought, but it was pretty bad.

    Do you have tensiometers in your fields? Or is that technology passe now? What are you growing anyway, is it a wheat or other grain?

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Fred Bloggs on Sat Oct 7 06:26:14 2023
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:08:58 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 12:23:51 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 4:15:26 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 6 Oct 2023 07:36:45 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    I don't accept the premise. It seems everything in your universe is climate-related. Farmers in the UK are also the highest proportion of people who commit suicide and I can promise you there is no drought in the UK!
    Pretty much everything in the farming universe is climate related. Drought is just one form of climate induced stress.
    If you don't get the rain you need when you need it, you lose your crop. If you get too much at the wrong time, you lose it too,

    Global warming actually implies more rain, rather than less, but it can fall in the wrong place at the wrong time. This is why "climate change" had replaced "global warming".
    There's much more to it than total rainfall. Torrential downpours or even heavy rains that occur at a rate too fast to be absorbed by the soil don't supply nearly as much water as a simple rain gauge reading would imply, most of the water just washes
    away. A real severe torrential can beat a crop into the ground and destroy it. And if the rain occurs after an extended dry period, the soil surface becomes hard and hydrophobic, most of the time, causing near zero water absorption in areas with any kind
    of grade to them. It doesn't take much grade for water to run away to the nearest pool.

    The point of the article is that an 'excess' in suicide deaths in the farm community can be expected due to climate change and its calamitous effects on production.

    It doesn't take climate change to mess up agricultural production. An erratic climate - which parts of Australia have suffered from for a very long time - can tempt farmers into making foolish investments

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goyder%27s_Line

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Sat Oct 7 06:54:49 2023
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:20:07 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:04:51 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
    <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States.
    What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual?

    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for global warming. That's all.
    Not at all. Rational people (Cursitor Doom isn't one of them) are aware that anthropogenic global warming has been going on for some thirty years now, and are paying attention to some of it's consequences.

    Agriculture in Australia has always been tricky, and climate change is making the weather even more unpredictable than it has been for the last end ten thousand - human beings have been living in Australia for the last 50,000 years, so the locals can
    remember the most recent episode of global warming at the end of the last ice age. It was sort of eventful - the land bridge to Tasmania got submerged.

    "Being closed to new ideas, opinions and information keeps low-intelligence people stuck where they are. Closed-minded people have a tendency to confirm their pre-existing beliefs. Hence, they cannot learn new things."

    https://www.psychmechanics.com/signs-of-low-intelligence/


    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Fred Bloggs on Sat Oct 7 07:05:16 2023
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:54:54 AM UTC+11, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:20:07 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:04:51 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States.
    What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual?

    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for global warming. That's all.
    Not at all. Rational people (Cursitor Doom isn't one of them) are aware that anthropogenic global warming has been going on for some thirty years now, and are paying attention to some of it's consequences.

    Agriculture in Australia has always been tricky, and climate change is making the weather even more unpredictable than it has been for the last end ten thousand - human beings have been living in Australia for the last 50,000 years, so the locals can
    remember the most recent episode of global warming at the end of the last ice age. It was sort of eventful - the land bridge to Tasmania got submerged.

    "Being closed to new ideas, opinions and information keeps low-intelligence people stuck where they are. Closed-minded people have a tendency to confirm their pre-existing beliefs. Hence, they cannot learn new things."

    https://www.psychmechanics.com/signs-of-low-intelligence/

    Cursitor Doom isn't stupid, or closed to new ideas. He's just insane, and prefers his new ideas to be unconventional and frankly bonkers, so he doesn't have to suffer the indiginity of sharing them with all that many other people

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Fred Bloggs on Sat Oct 7 16:24:51 2023
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    The idiot Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> persisting in being an Off-topic troll...

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Sat Oct 7 18:51:50 2023
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 06:54:49 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:20:07?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:04:51?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
    <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States.
    What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual?

    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for global warming. That's all.
    Not at all. Rational people (Cursitor Doom isn't one of them) are aware that anthropogenic global warming has been going on for some thirty years now, and are paying attention to some of it's consequences.

    Agriculture in Australia has always been tricky, and climate change is making the weather even more unpredictable than it has been for the last end ten thousand - human beings have been living in Australia for the last 50,000 years, so the locals can
    remember the most recent episode of global warming at the end of the last ice age. It was sort of eventful - the land bridge to Tasmania got submerged.

    "Being closed to new ideas, opinions and information keeps low-intelligence people stuck where they are. Closed-minded people have a tendency to confirm their pre-existing beliefs. Hence, they cannot learn new things."

    https://www.psychmechanics.com/signs-of-low-intelligence/


    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney


    Nope. Low intelligence is characterized by the credulous, uncritical
    and unquestioning acceptance of dogma; the complete inability to use
    the vital skill of critical thinking to see through Globalist
    propaganda for what it is: a dirty great stinking pile of lies which
    will impoverish us all and achieve nothing beyond that. You mark my
    words.....

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Sat Oct 7 11:24:52 2023
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 06:54:49 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:20:07?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:04:51?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
    <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States.
    What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual?

    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for global warming. That's all.
    Not at all. Rational people (Cursitor Doom isn't one of them) are aware that anthropogenic global warming has been going on for some thirty years now, and are paying attention to some of it's consequences.

    Agriculture in Australia has always been tricky, and climate change is making the weather even more unpredictable than it has been for the last end ten thousand - human beings have been living in Australia for the last 50,000 years, so the locals can
    remember the most recent episode of global warming at the end of the last ice age. It was sort of eventful - the land bridge to Tasmania got submerged.

    "Being closed to new ideas, opinions and information keeps low-intelligence people stuck where they are.

    It wrecks lots of high-intelligence people too.

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 7 11:27:02 2023
    On Sat, 07 Oct 2023 18:51:50 +0100, Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 06:54:49 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs ><bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:20:07?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:04:51?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
    <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States. >>> > >What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual? >>> >
    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for global warming. That's all.
    Not at all. Rational people (Cursitor Doom isn't one of them) are aware that anthropogenic global warming has been going on for some thirty years now, and are paying attention to some of it's consequences.

    Agriculture in Australia has always been tricky, and climate change is making the weather even more unpredictable than it has been for the last end ten thousand - human beings have been living in Australia for the last 50,000 years, so the locals can
    remember the most recent episode of global warming at the end of the last ice age. It was sort of eventful - the land bridge to Tasmania got submerged.

    "Being closed to new ideas, opinions and information keeps low-intelligence people stuck where they are. Closed-minded people have a tendency to confirm their pre-existing beliefs. Hence, they cannot learn new things."

    https://www.psychmechanics.com/signs-of-low-intelligence/


    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney


    Nope. Low intelligence is characterized by the credulous, uncritical
    and unquestioning acceptance of dogma; the complete inability to use
    the vital skill of critical thinking to see through Globalist
    propaganda for what it is: a dirty great stinking pile of lies which
    will impoverish us all and achieve nothing beyond that. You mark my >words.....

    In developed countries, collective common sense usually prevails, and politicians follow. The loop is slow and underdamped.

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  • From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sat Oct 7 15:36:15 2023
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 1:52:01 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 06:54:49 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:20:07?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:04:51?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
    <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States. >> > >What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual? >> >
    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for global warming. That's all.
    Not at all. Rational people (Cursitor Doom isn't one of them) are aware that anthropogenic global warming has been going on for some thirty years now, and are paying attention to some of it's consequences.

    Agriculture in Australia has always been tricky, and climate change is making the weather even more unpredictable than it has been for the last end ten thousand - human beings have been living in Australia for the last 50,000 years, so the locals
    can remember the most recent episode of global warming at the end of the last ice age. It was sort of eventful - the land bridge to Tasmania got submerged.

    "Being closed to new ideas, opinions and information keeps low-intelligence people stuck where they are. Closed-minded people have a tendency to confirm their pre-existing beliefs. Hence, they cannot learn new things."

    https://www.psychmechanics.com/signs-of-low-intelligence/


    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    Nope. Low intelligence is characterized by the credulous, uncritical
    and unquestioning acceptance of dogma; the complete inability to use
    the vital skill of critical thinking to see through Globalist
    propaganda for what it is: a dirty great stinking pile of lies which
    will impoverish us all and achieve nothing beyond that. You mark my words.....

    There's nothing at all globalist about staving off the complete collapse of civilization that's coming.

    Your problem is you're looking for some convincingly complex explanation of the state of climate affairs, when in fact everything about it is quite simple and amply confirmed with objective measurement. Science knows which atmospheric CO2 is derived from
    nature and which is derived from burning fossil fuels by measuring the types of carbon isotope in the gas. And that's how they can say with certainty that mankind is responsible for increasing the CO2 from 300 ppm to over 400 ppm in the last 40 years.
    Going a step further, there is ample measurement data establishing a strong correlation between CO2 concentration and global temperature rise. As for the extreme weather patterns, elementary computational probability confirms that the null hypothesis of
    no climate change is so improbable as to push the hypothesis to a degree of absurdity. And the reason the world is running out of time comes down to the persistence of the CO2 in the atmosphere. In simple terms it means the current year's emission simply
    adds to the previous year's, and that to the previous years, and so on. Before you know it you have huge amounts of CO2 accumulating in the atmosphere, all contributing to that global temperature rise correlation.

    Ultimately, there's no denying the frequency, intensity, and duration of extreme weather on a global scale. At first it was just 100 year events, then 500 year events, and abruptly into 1000 year events, and now we're starting to see 'never seen before'
    events.

    If this piece contains deceitful propaganda, please point it out to us:

    https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2915/the-atmosphere-getting-a-handle-on-carbon-dioxide/

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  • From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Sat Oct 7 15:38:32 2023
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 2:25:20 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 06:54:49 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:20:07?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:04:51?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
    <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States. >> > >What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual? >> >
    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for global warming. That's all.
    Not at all. Rational people (Cursitor Doom isn't one of them) are aware that anthropogenic global warming has been going on for some thirty years now, and are paying attention to some of it's consequences.

    Agriculture in Australia has always been tricky, and climate change is making the weather even more unpredictable than it has been for the last end ten thousand - human beings have been living in Australia for the last 50,000 years, so the locals
    can remember the most recent episode of global warming at the end of the last ice age. It was sort of eventful - the land bridge to Tasmania got submerged.

    "Being closed to new ideas, opinions and information keeps low-intelligence people stuck where they are.
    It wrecks lots of high-intelligence people too.

    There is such a thing as highly intelligent idiot I guess.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Sat Oct 7 18:53:16 2023
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 5:27:29 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 07 Oct 2023 18:51:50 +0100, Cursitor Doom <c...@notformail.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 06:54:49 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs ><bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:20:07?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:04:51?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>> > On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
    <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote: >>> > >> One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States. >>> > >What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual? >>> >
    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for global warming. That's all.
    Not at all. Rational people (Cursitor Doom isn't one of them) are aware that anthropogenic global warming has been going on for some thirty years now, and are paying attention to some of it's consequences.

    Agriculture in Australia has always been tricky, and climate change is making the weather even more unpredictable than it has been for the last end ten thousand - human beings have been living in Australia for the last 50,000 years, so the locals
    can remember the most recent episode of global warming at the end of the last ice age. It was sort of eventful - the land bridge to Tasmania got submerged.

    "Being closed to new ideas, opinions and information keeps low-intelligence people stuck where they are. Closed-minded people have a tendency to confirm their pre-existing beliefs. Hence, they cannot learn new things."

    https://www.psychmechanics.com/signs-of-low-intelligence/

    Nope. Low intelligence is characterized by the credulous, uncritical and unquestioning acceptance of dogma; the complete inability to use the vital skill of critical thinking to see through Globalist propaganda for what it is: a dirty great stinking
    pile of lies which will impoverish us all and achieve nothing beyond that. You mark my words.....

    Cursitor Doom hasn't pointed to even one great stinking pile of globalist propapanda . He's failed at the first step of critical thinking, which is making it clear what you are talking about.

    As usual, the mark he earns is an "f" for fatuous. Since this diatribe comes from a gulliuble lunatic who swallows climate change denial propaganda without gagging, his capacity for critical thinking doesn't seem to be up to much.

    In developed countries, collective common sense usually prevails, and politicians follow. The loop is slow and underdamped.

    Collective common sense usually gets educated as unfamiliar concepts filter down from academic experts who are paid and trained to investigate and think about new stuff. Good politicians - like Al Gore - tend to get early access to newly acquired
    insights and can help get the population up to speed. Bad politicians, like Donald Trump, exploit the fact that new insights are unfamiliar and can be presented in ways that appall the unsophisticated and mentally idle, of which John Larkin is one.
    Cursitor Doom isn't mentally idle - he's actually insane, and his thought processes are rather like flies buzzing around in a fly-trap, feasting on the carrion that has been put there to lure them in..

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Dean Hoffman@21:1/5 to Fred Bloggs on Sat Oct 7 18:47:19 2023
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 8:25:38 AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 7:38:35 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50 AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html
    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States.
    What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual?
    Intensity of drought is usually gauged in terms of economic loss. If it's bad enough to cause a 40% reduction in yield, like what's happening in parts of Europe right now, that's what's called a pretty bad drought. I don't know what the stats are on
    that Australian drought, but it was pretty bad.

    Do you have tensiometers in your fields? Or is that technology passe now? What are you growing anyway, is it a wheat or other grain?

    My immediate area of central Nebraska is mainly #2 corn, soybeans, and seed corn. It is over the Ogallala aquifer. Some people just 40 miles away or so stick with grain sorghum, winter wheat, dryland corn. The aquifer peters out before it gets
    to them and it just isn't worth it to drill deeper wells to get water.
    I've never heard of anyone mentioning moisture sensors. I had to take a quick look since you brought it up. I grew up on a farm and worked with pivot irrigation
    systems all of my working years. Farmers have mentioned hiring crop consultants
    to advise them about irrigation, insect control, etc. Their reasoning is that a consultant gets around to more fields and has a larger perspective.
    Farmers here generally rely on their experience and the stage of the crop. Most farmers grew up on farms so they have a lot of practical experience. Farmers are a bit like royalty. They inherit farms. A banker isn't likely to loan money to
    someone who grew up in town and just decided he wanted a change of pace from sitting at a desk all day.
    <https://cropwatch.unl.edu/2022/sensors-pivot-automated-irrigation-scheduling-great-plains>
    Somewhere between 7-12% of farms have moisture sensors.
    This is supposed to be state of the art. <https://anz.valleyirrigation.com/scheduling#twocolumnswithformcontainer>
    I've heard mention of satellites being used someday but have no idea if that's even in the experimental stage.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Sun Oct 8 18:00:45 2023
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 15:36:15 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 1:52:01?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 06:54:49 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
    <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:20:07?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:04:51?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
    <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States. >> >> > >What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual? >> >> >
    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for global warming. That's all.
    Not at all. Rational people (Cursitor Doom isn't one of them) are aware that anthropogenic global warming has been going on for some thirty years now, and are paying attention to some of it's consequences.

    Agriculture in Australia has always been tricky, and climate change is making the weather even more unpredictable than it has been for the last end ten thousand - human beings have been living in Australia for the last 50,000 years, so the locals
    can remember the most recent episode of global warming at the end of the last ice age. It was sort of eventful - the land bridge to Tasmania got submerged.

    "Being closed to new ideas, opinions and information keeps low-intelligence people stuck where they are. Closed-minded people have a tendency to confirm their pre-existing beliefs. Hence, they cannot learn new things."

    https://www.psychmechanics.com/signs-of-low-intelligence/


    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    Nope. Low intelligence is characterized by the credulous, uncritical
    and unquestioning acceptance of dogma; the complete inability to use
    the vital skill of critical thinking to see through Globalist
    propaganda for what it is: a dirty great stinking pile of lies which
    will impoverish us all and achieve nothing beyond that. You mark my
    words.....

    There's nothing at all globalist about staving off the complete collapse of civilization that's coming.

    Your problem is you're looking for some convincingly complex explanation of the state of climate affairs, when in fact everything about it is quite simple and amply confirmed with objective measurement. Science knows which atmospheric CO2 is derived
    from nature and which is derived from burning fossil fuels by measuring the types of carbon isotope in the gas. And that's how they can say with certainty that mankind is responsible for increasing the CO2 from 300 ppm to over 400 ppm in the last 40
    years. Going a step further, there is ample measurement data establishing a strong correlation between CO2 concentration and global temperature rise. As for the extreme weather patterns, elementary computational probability confirms that the null
    hypothesis of no climate change is so improbable as to push the hypothesis to a degree of absurdity. And the reason the world is running out of time comes down to the persistence of the CO2 in the atmosphere. In simple terms it means the current
    year's emission simply adds to the previous year's, and that to the previous years, and so on. Before you know it you have huge amounts of CO2 accumulating in the atmosphere, all contributing to that global temperature rise correlation.

    Ultimately, there's no denying the frequency, intensity, and duration of extreme weather on a global scale. At first it was just 100 year events, then 500 year events, and abruptly into 1000 year events, and now we're starting to see 'never seen before'
    events.

    If this piece contains deceitful propaganda, please point it out to us:

    https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2915/the-atmosphere-getting-a-handle-on-carbon-dioxide/


    I'm afraid your data is flawed from the start, Fred. CO2 levels have
    *not* jumped from 300 to 400ppm over the last 40 years (or any period
    over the last 150 years, in fact). They have remained stable
    throughout the 20th Century and indeed up to the present date. There
    are only very small fluctuations and unequivocally *zero* increase
    over that same timeframe. You've quite simply been brainwashed by
    alarmist Globalist propaganda and fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

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  • From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Oct 8 13:15:06 2023
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 1:00:55 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 15:36:15 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 1:52:01?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 06:54:49 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
    <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:20:07?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:04:51?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> >> > On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
    <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote: >> >> > >> One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States.
    What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual?

    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for global warming. That's all.
    Not at all. Rational people (Cursitor Doom isn't one of them) are aware that anthropogenic global warming has been going on for some thirty years now, and are paying attention to some of it's consequences.

    Agriculture in Australia has always been tricky, and climate change is making the weather even more unpredictable than it has been for the last end ten thousand - human beings have been living in Australia for the last 50,000 years, so the locals
    can remember the most recent episode of global warming at the end of the last ice age. It was sort of eventful - the land bridge to Tasmania got submerged.

    "Being closed to new ideas, opinions and information keeps low-intelligence people stuck where they are. Closed-minded people have a tendency to confirm their pre-existing beliefs. Hence, they cannot learn new things."

    https://www.psychmechanics.com/signs-of-low-intelligence/


    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    Nope. Low intelligence is characterized by the credulous, uncritical
    and unquestioning acceptance of dogma; the complete inability to use
    the vital skill of critical thinking to see through Globalist
    propaganda for what it is: a dirty great stinking pile of lies which
    will impoverish us all and achieve nothing beyond that. You mark my
    words.....

    There's nothing at all globalist about staving off the complete collapse of civilization that's coming.

    Your problem is you're looking for some convincingly complex explanation of the state of climate affairs, when in fact everything about it is quite simple and amply confirmed with objective measurement. Science knows which atmospheric CO2 is derived
    from nature and which is derived from burning fossil fuels by measuring the types of carbon isotope in the gas. And that's how they can say with certainty that mankind is responsible for increasing the CO2 from 300 ppm to over 400 ppm in the last 40
    years. Going a step further, there is ample measurement data establishing a strong correlation between CO2 concentration and global temperature rise. As for the extreme weather patterns, elementary computational probability confirms that the null
    hypothesis of no climate change is so improbable as to push the hypothesis to a degree of absurdity. And the reason the world is running out of time comes down to the persistence of the CO2 in the atmosphere. In simple terms it means the current
    year's emission simply adds to the previous year's, and that to the previous years, and so on. Before you know it you have huge amounts of CO2 accumulating in the atmosphere, all contributing to that global temperature rise correlation.

    Ultimately, there's no denying the frequency, intensity, and duration of extreme weather on a global scale. At first it was just 100 year events, then 500 year events, and abruptly into 1000 year events, and now we're starting to see 'never seen
    before' events.

    If this piece contains deceitful propaganda, please point it out to us:

    https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2915/the-atmosphere-getting-a-handle-on-carbon-dioxide/
    I'm afraid your data is flawed from the start, Fred. CO2 levels have
    *not* jumped from 300 to 400ppm over the last 40 years (or any period
    over the last 150 years, in fact). They have remained stable
    throughout the 20th Century and indeed up to the present date. There
    are only very small fluctuations and unequivocally *zero* increase
    over that same timeframe. You've quite simply been brainwashed by
    alarmist Globalist propaganda and fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

    There's no basis for discussion. You're mentally ill.

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Sun Oct 8 22:50:59 2023
    On Sun, 8 Oct 2023 13:15:06 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 1:00:55?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 15:36:15 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
    <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 1:52:01?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 06:54:49 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
    <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:20:07?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:04:51?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> >> >> > On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
    <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote: >> >> >> > >> One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States.
    What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual?

    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for global warming. That's all.
    Not at all. Rational people (Cursitor Doom isn't one of them) are aware that anthropogenic global warming has been going on for some thirty years now, and are paying attention to some of it's consequences.

    Agriculture in Australia has always been tricky, and climate change is making the weather even more unpredictable than it has been for the last end ten thousand - human beings have been living in Australia for the last 50,000 years, so the
    locals can remember the most recent episode of global warming at the end of the last ice age. It was sort of eventful - the land bridge to Tasmania got submerged.

    "Being closed to new ideas, opinions and information keeps low-intelligence people stuck where they are. Closed-minded people have a tendency to confirm their pre-existing beliefs. Hence, they cannot learn new things."

    https://www.psychmechanics.com/signs-of-low-intelligence/


    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    Nope. Low intelligence is characterized by the credulous, uncritical
    and unquestioning acceptance of dogma; the complete inability to use
    the vital skill of critical thinking to see through Globalist
    propaganda for what it is: a dirty great stinking pile of lies which
    will impoverish us all and achieve nothing beyond that. You mark my
    words.....

    There's nothing at all globalist about staving off the complete collapse of civilization that's coming.

    Your problem is you're looking for some convincingly complex explanation of the state of climate affairs, when in fact everything about it is quite simple and amply confirmed with objective measurement. Science knows which atmospheric CO2 is derived
    from nature and which is derived from burning fossil fuels by measuring the types of carbon isotope in the gas. And that's how they can say with certainty that mankind is responsible for increasing the CO2 from 300 ppm to over 400 ppm in the last 40
    years. Going a step further, there is ample measurement data establishing a strong correlation between CO2 concentration and global temperature rise. As for the extreme weather patterns, elementary computational probability confirms that the null
    hypothesis of no climate change is so improbable as to push the hypothesis to a degree of absurdity. And the reason the world is running out of time comes down to the persistence of the CO2 in the atmosphere. In simple terms it means the current
    year's emission simply adds to the previous year's, and that to the previous years, and so on. Before you know it you have huge amounts of CO2 accumulating in the atmosphere, all contributing to that global temperature rise correlation.

    Ultimately, there's no denying the frequency, intensity, and duration of extreme weather on a global scale. At first it was just 100 year events, then 500 year events, and abruptly into 1000 year events, and now we're starting to see 'never seen
    before' events.

    If this piece contains deceitful propaganda, please point it out to us:

    https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2915/the-atmosphere-getting-a-handle-on-carbon-dioxide/
    I'm afraid your data is flawed from the start, Fred. CO2 levels have
    *not* jumped from 300 to 400ppm over the last 40 years (or any period
    over the last 150 years, in fact). They have remained stable
    throughout the 20th Century and indeed up to the present date. There
    are only very small fluctuations and unequivocally *zero* increase
    over that same timeframe. You've quite simply been brainwashed by
    alarmist Globalist propaganda and fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

    There's no basis for discussion. You're mentally ill

    Hegelian Dialectic. You're being played. You've become an unwitting
    patsy for the Globalists and you're just too blind to see it.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Fred Bloggs on Mon Oct 9 01:20:52 2023
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    The idiot Cursitor Doom <cd@notformail.com> persisting in being an Off-topic troll...

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Sun Oct 8 21:15:51 2023
    On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 4:00:55 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 15:36:15 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 1:52:01?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 06:54:49 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
    <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, October 7, 2023 at 9:20:07?AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, October 8, 2023 at 12:04:51?AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> >> > On Sat, 7 Oct 2023 04:38:30 -0700 (PDT), Dean Hoffman
    <dean...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 9:36:50?AM UTC-5, Fred Bloggs wrote: >> >> > >> One fix is to assist unstable people in leaving the profession, they're saying.

    Suicide rates should start increasing across the board as the worst of climate change kicks in.

    https://medicalxpress.com/news/2023-10-suicide-extreme-drought-murray-darling-basin.html

    Crop prices tend to go up during drought. It depends, of course, on what particular crop is raised in the area.
    Drought is mentioned in the Bible a few times when people didn't have huge huge ships to transport food around the world.
    My parents lived in the Dust Bowl days of the central United States.
    What makes this particular drought in the article special or unusual?

    The way it's being put up as some sort of half-baked evidence for global warming. That's all.
    Not at all. Rational people (Cursitor Doom isn't one of them) are aware that anthropogenic global warming has been going on for some thirty years now, and are paying attention to some of it's consequences.

    Agriculture in Australia has always been tricky, and climate change is making the weather even more unpredictable than it has been for the last end ten thousand - human beings have been living in Australia for the last 50,000 years, so the locals
    can remember the most recent episode of global warming at the end of the last ice age. It was sort of eventful - the land bridge to Tasmania got submerged.

    "Being closed to new ideas, opinions and information keeps low-intelligence people stuck where they are. Closed-minded people have a tendency to confirm their pre-existing beliefs. Hence, they cannot learn new things."

    https://www.psychmechanics.com/signs-of-low-intelligence/


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    Nope. Low intelligence is characterized by the credulous, uncritical
    and unquestioning acceptance of dogma; the complete inability to use
    the vital skill of critical thinking to see through Globalist
    propaganda for what it is: a dirty great stinking pile of lies which
    will impoverish us all and achieve nothing beyond that. You mark my
    words.....

    There's nothing at all globalist about staving off the complete collapse of civilization that's coming.

    Your problem is you're looking for some convincingly complex explanation of the state of climate affairs, when in fact everything about it is quite simple and amply confirmed with objective measurement. Science knows which atmospheric CO2 is derived
    from nature and which is derived from burning fossil fuels by measuring the types of carbon isotope in the gas. And that's how they can say with certainty that mankind is responsible for increasing the CO2 from 300 ppm to over 400 ppm in the last 40
    years. Going a step further, there is ample measurement data establishing a strong correlation between CO2 concentration and global temperature rise. As for the extreme weather patterns, elementary computational probability confirms that the null
    hypothesis of no climate change is so improbable as to push the hypothesis to a degree of absurdity. And the reason the world is running out of time comes down to the persistence of the CO2 in the atmosphere. In simple terms it means the current
    year's emission simply adds to the previous year's, and that to the previous years, and so on. Before you know it you have huge amounts of CO2 accumulating in the atmosphere, all contributing to that global temperature rise correlation.

    Ultimately, there's no denying the frequency, intensity, and duration of extreme weather on a global scale. At first it was just 100 year events, then 500 year events, and abruptly into 1000 year events, and now we're starting to see 'never seen
    before' events.

    If this piece contains deceitful propaganda, please point it out to us:

    https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2915/the-atmosphere-getting-a-handle-on-carbon-dioxide/

    I'm afraid your data is flawed from the start, Fred. CO2 levels have *not* jumped from 300 to 400ppm over the last 40 years (or any period over the last 150 years, in fact). They have remained stable throughout the 20th Century and indeed up to the
    present date.

    If you are silly enough to imagine that atmospheric CO2 measured in the 1890's were accurate enough to be worth comparing with modern estimates you might think that, but you have to be very silly indeed to think that

    There are only very small fluctuations and unequivocally *zero* increase over that same timeframe.

    I suppose you could think that if you cherry picked the old data carefully enough and wrote off all the modern data as "deceitful propanda" you could think that. but you'd have to be insane - as Cursitor Doom clearly is - to do that.

    You've quite simply been brainwashed by alarmist Globalist propaganda and fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Arrhenius

    was dead before Globalism had been invented by Curistor Doom's favourite right wing lunatics.

    The gullible brainwashed twit here is Cursitor Doom, and all his word salad can't conceal the fact.

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