The Gulf Stream transport of water through the Florida Straits has slowed by 4% over the past four decades, with 99% certainty that this weakening is more than expected from random chance, according to a new study.
https://phys.org/news/2023-09-definitively-gulf-stream-weakening.html
It takes forever for them to fish trends out of this slow moving and highly corrupted data, forever as in 30 years.
The Gulf Stream transport of water through the Florida Straits has slowed by 4% over the past four decades, with 99% certainty that this weakening is more than expected from random chance, according to a new study.
https://phys.org/news/2023-09-definitively-gulf-stream-weakening.html
It takes forever for them to fish trends out of this slow moving and highly corrupted data, forever as in 30 years.
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:44:57 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Gulf Stream transport of water through the Florida Straits has slowed by 4% over the past four decades, with 99% certainty that this weakening is more than expected from random chance, according to a new study.
https://phys.org/news/2023-09-definitively-gulf-stream-weakening.html
It takes forever for them to fish trends out of this slow moving and highly corrupted data, forever as in 30 years.No amount of computing can correct 40 years of "observations of
disparate quality and resolution".
But agreed, 0.1% change per year in the Florida Straits is terrifying.
Flow will stop in 1000 years. None of us will be able to sleep now.
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:44:57 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Gulf Stream transport of water through the Florida Straits has slowed by 4% over the past four decades, with 99% certainty that this weakening is more than expected from random chance, according to a new study.
https://phys.org/news/2023-09-definitively-gulf-stream-weakening.html
It takes forever for them to fish trends out of this slow moving and highly corrupted data, forever as in 30 years.
No amount of computing can correct 40 years of "observations of disparate quality and resolution".
But agreed, 0.1% change per year in the Florida Straits is terrifying.
Flow will stop in 1000 years. None of us will be able to sleep now.
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:04:10?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:switches wildly, heading for a new steady state. And that is not good.
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:44:57 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Gulf Stream transport of water through the Florida Straits has slowed by 4% over the past four decades, with 99% certainty that this weakening is more than expected from random chance, according to a new study.No amount of computing can correct 40 years of "observations of
https://phys.org/news/2023-09-definitively-gulf-stream-weakening.html
It takes forever for them to fish trends out of this slow moving and highly corrupted data, forever as in 30 years.
disparate quality and resolution".
Right, the data must be 'corrected.'
But agreed, 0.1% change per year in the Florida Straits is terrifying.
Flow will stop in 1000 years. None of us will be able to sleep now.
That's only if you assume it's all linear. Article mentioned most of the 4% slowdown occurred within the last decade. That would suggest a positive feedback mechanism of some sort. It may be that once the slow down reaches threshold, the whole system
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:04:18 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:04:10?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote: >>> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:44:57 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Gulf Stream transport of water through the Florida Straits hasNo amount of computing can correct 40 years of "observations of
slowed by 4% over the past four decades, with 99% certainty that this
weakening is more than expected from random chance, according to a new study.
https://phys.org/news/2023-09-definitively-gulf-stream-weakening.html
It takes forever for them to fish trends out of this slow moving and
highly corrupted data, forever as in 30 years.
disparate quality and resolution".
Right, the data must be 'corrected.'
But agreed, 0.1% change per year in the Florida Straits is terrifying.
Flow will stop in 1000 years. None of us will be able to sleep now.
That's only if you assume it's all linear. Article mentioned most of the
4% slowdown occurred within the last decade. That would suggest a
positive feedback mechanism of some sort. It may be that once the slow
down reaches threshold, the whole system switches wildly, heading for a
new steady state. And that is not good.
To me, it suggests a noisy process and some sensor variation. But you
can cherry-pick noise and extrapolate and be terrified if that's your full-time hobby.
John Larkin <jl@997arbor.com> wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:04:18 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:04:10?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote: >>>> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:44:57 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Gulf Stream transport of water through the Florida Straits hasNo amount of computing can correct 40 years of "observations of
slowed by 4% over the past four decades, with 99% certainty that this >>>>> weakening is more than expected from random chance, according to a new study.
https://phys.org/news/2023-09-definitively-gulf-stream-weakening.html >>>>>
It takes forever for them to fish trends out of this slow moving and >>>>> highly corrupted data, forever as in 30 years.
disparate quality and resolution".
Right, the data must be 'corrected.'
But agreed, 0.1% change per year in the Florida Straits is terrifying. >>>> Flow will stop in 1000 years. None of us will be able to sleep now.
That's only if you assume it's all linear. Article mentioned most of the >>> 4% slowdown occurred within the last decade. That would suggest a
positive feedback mechanism of some sort. It may be that once the slow
down reaches threshold, the whole system switches wildly, heading for a
new steady state. And that is not good.
To me, it suggests a noisy process and some sensor variation. But you
can cherry-pick noise and extrapolate and be terrified if that's your
full-time hobby.
And of course the ‘new steady state’ is an ice age, which should comfort
Fred and his AGW confrères no end. ;)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
It doesn't seem to me that 1.5c or even 3c warming would be a big
deal. Earth might be better off, actually. But the next ice age will
be terrible.
John Larkin <j...@997arbor.com> wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:04:18 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:04:10?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote: >>> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:44:57 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Gulf Stream transport of water through the Florida Straits hasNo amount of computing can correct 40 years of "observations of
slowed by 4% over the past four decades, with 99% certainty that this >>>> weakening is more than expected from random chance, according to a new study.
https://phys.org/news/2023-09-definitively-gulf-stream-weakening.html >>>>
It takes forever for them to fish trends out of this slow moving and >>>> highly corrupted data, forever as in 30 years.
disparate quality and resolution".
Right, the data must be 'corrected.'
But agreed, 0.1% change per year in the Florida Straits is terrifying. >>> Flow will stop in 1000 years. None of us will be able to sleep now.
That's only if you assume it's all linear. Article mentioned most of the >> 4% slowdown occurred within the last decade. That would suggest a
positive feedback mechanism of some sort. It may be that once the slow
down reaches threshold, the whole system switches wildly, heading for a >> new steady state. And that is not good.
To me, it suggests a noisy process and some sensor variation. But you
can cherry-pick noise and extrapolate and be terrified if that's your full-time hobby.
And of course the ‘new steady state’ is an ice age, which should comfort Fred and his AGW confrères no end. ;)
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 1:21:19?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
It doesn't seem to me that 1.5c or even 3c warming would be a big
deal. Earth might be better off, actually. But the next ice age will
be terrible.
Warming is already a big deal. Plants and pollinators need to evolve in order to survive in
a different environment, and... all our food crops might go the way of the American
Chestnut and go extinct for a century or two. Can we in our billions feed on >wild rice and mealworms if we need to?
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 18:16:15 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
John Larkin <j...@997arbor.com> wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:04:18 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:04:10?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:44:57 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Gulf Stream transport of water through the Florida Straits has >>>>> slowed by 4% over the past four decades, with 99% certainty that this >>>>> weakening is more than expected from random chance, according to a new study.No amount of computing can correct 40 years of "observations of
https://phys.org/news/2023-09-definitively-gulf-stream-weakening.html >>>>>
It takes forever for them to fish trends out of this slow moving and >>>>> highly corrupted data, forever as in 30 years.
disparate quality and resolution".
Right, the data must be 'corrected.'
But agreed, 0.1% change per year in the Florida Straits is terrifying. >>>> Flow will stop in 1000 years. None of us will be able to sleep now.
That's only if you assume it's all linear. Article mentioned most of the >>> 4% slowdown occurred within the last decade. That would suggest a
positive feedback mechanism of some sort. It may be that once the slow >>> down reaches threshold, the whole system switches wildly, heading for a >>> new steady state. And that is not good.
To me, it suggests a noisy process and some sensor variation. But you
can cherry-pick noise and extrapolate and be terrified if that's your
full-time hobby.
And of course the ‘new steady state’ is an ice age, which should comfort
Fred and his AGW confrères no end. ;)
Cheers
Phil HobbsIt doesn't seem to me that 1.5c or even 3c warming would be a big
deal. Earth might be better off, actually. But the next ice age will
be terrible.
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 17:44:27 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 1:21:19?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
It doesn't seem to me that 1.5c or even 3c warming would be a big
deal. Earth might be better off, actually. But the next ice age will
be terrible.
Warming is already a big deal. Plants and pollinators need to evolve in order to survive in
a different environment, and... all our food crops might go the way of the American
Chestnut and go extinct for a century or two. Can we in our billions feed on
wild rice and mealworms if we need to?
Food production is radically up in the last decades, and still sloping up hard.
There would be plenty of food for everyone except for stupid politics.
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 18:16:15 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote:
John Larkin <j...@997arbor.com> wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 09:04:18 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 11:04:10?AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 06:44:57 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Gulf Stream transport of water through the Florida Straits has >>>>> slowed by 4% over the past four decades, with 99% certainty that this >>>>> weakening is more than expected from random chance, according to a new study.No amount of computing can correct 40 years of "observations of
https://phys.org/news/2023-09-definitively-gulf-stream-weakening.html >>>>>
It takes forever for them to fish trends out of this slow moving and >>>>> highly corrupted data, forever as in 30 years.
disparate quality and resolution".
Right, the data must be 'corrected.'
But agreed, 0.1% change per year in the Florida Straits is terrifying. >>>> Flow will stop in 1000 years. None of us will be able to sleep now.
That's only if you assume it's all linear. Article mentioned most of the >>> 4% slowdown occurred within the last decade. That would suggest a
positive feedback mechanism of some sort. It may be that once the slow >>> down reaches threshold, the whole system switches wildly, heading for a >>> new steady state. And that is not good.
And of course the ‘new steady state’ is an ice age, which should comfort Fred and his AGW confrères no end. ;)
It doesn't seem to me that 1.5c or even 3c warming would be a big deal. Earth might be better off, actually.
But the next ice age will be terrible.
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 17:44:27 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 1:21:19?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
It doesn't seem to me that 1.5c or even 3c warming would be a big
deal. Earth might be better off, actually. But the next ice age will
be terrible.
Warming is already a big deal. Plants and pollinators need to evolve in order to survive inFood production is radically up in the last decades, and still sloping
a different environment, and... all our food crops might go the way of the American
Chestnut and go extinct for a century or two. Can we in our billions feed on
wild rice and mealworms if we need to?
up hard.
Therev would be plenty of food for everyone except for stupid
politics.
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On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:11:45?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 17:44:27 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>Not cattle in Texas; net cattle population has dropped since about 1975.
wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 1:21:19?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:Food production is radically up in the last decades, and still sloping
It doesn't seem to me that 1.5c or even 3c warming would be a big
deal. Earth might be better off, actually. But the next ice age will
be terrible.
Warming is already a big deal. Plants and pollinators need to evolve in order to survive in
a different environment, and... all our food crops might go the way of the American
Chestnut and go extinct for a century or two. Can we in our billions feed on
wild rice and mealworms if we need to?
up hard.
The 'food production' has to match population growth, or the market corrects. >Raw production numbers reflect population, not technology or absolute >capacity.
Therev would be plenty of food for everyone except for stupid
politics.
That's stupid, and political. Agriculture is mainly nature, just tweaked a bit
by technology. Texas can't support more cattle, so population rises and >beef production doesn't. The market and/or technology fix, is... eat more beans.
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 23:55:52 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:11:45?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 17:44:27 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>Not cattle in Texas; net cattle population has dropped since about 1975.
wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 1:21:19?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote: >> >Food production is radically up in the last decades, and still sloping
It doesn't seem to me that 1.5c or even 3c warming would be a big
deal. Earth might be better off, actually. But the next ice age will >> >> be terrible.
Warming is already a big deal. Plants and pollinators need to evolve in order to survive in
a different environment, and... all our food crops might go the way of the American
Chestnut and go extinct for a century or two. Can we in our billions feed on
wild rice and mealworms if we need to?
up hard.
That's horrifying. We are all doomed to live on tofu.
(As I type this, I'm finishing a superb burger from, of all places, a Portugese restaurant. Burger and excellent fries were just $12 at Happy Hour.)
The 'food production' has to match population growth, or the market corrects.
Raw production numbers reflect population, not technology or absolute capacity.
Google for yield per acre for various crops over the last 100 years. It's amazing. \
Once 80% of the population farmed and often starved. Now it's a few per cent and there's lots of food.
There would be plenty of food for everyone except for stupid politics.
That's stupid, and political. Agriculture is mainly nature, just tweaked a bit by technology. Texas can't support more cattle, so population rises and beef production doesn't. The market and/or technology fix, is... eat more beans.
Wars and collectivism have historically been bad for food production.
"just tweaked a bit by technology" is hilarious.
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 23:55:52 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:11:45?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 17:44:27 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>Not cattle in Texas; net cattle population has dropped since about 1975. That's horrifying. We are all doomed to live on tofu.
wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 1:21:19?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote: >> >Food production is radically up in the last decades, and still sloping
It doesn't seem to me that 1.5c or even 3c warming would be a big
deal. Earth might be better off, actually. But the next ice age will >> >> be terrible.
Warming is already a big deal. Plants and pollinators need to evolve in order to survive in
a different environment, and... all our food crops might go the way of the American
Chestnut and go extinct for a century or two. Can we in our billions feed on
wild rice and mealworms if we need to?
up hard.
(As I type this, I'm finishing a superb burger from, of all places, a Portugese restaurant. Burger and excellent fries were just $12 at
Happy Hour.)
The 'food production' has to match population growth, or the market corrects.
Raw production numbers reflect population, not technology or absolute >capacity.
Google for yield per acre for various crops over the last 100 years.
It's amazing.
On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:19:46?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 23:55:52 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:11:45?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:That's horrifying. We are all doomed to live on tofu.
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 17:44:27 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>Not cattle in Texas; net cattle population has dropped since about 1975.
wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 1:21:19?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote: >> >> >Food production is radically up in the last decades, and still sloping
It doesn't seem to me that 1.5c or even 3c warming would be a big
deal. Earth might be better off, actually. But the next ice age will >> >> >> be terrible.
Warming is already a big deal. Plants and pollinators need to evolve in order to survive in
a different environment, and... all our food crops might go the way of the American
Chestnut and go extinct for a century or two. Can we in our billions feed on
wild rice and mealworms if we need to?
up hard.
(As I type this, I'm finishing a superb burger from, of all places, a
Portugese restaurant. Burger and excellent fries were just $12 at
Happy Hour.)
The 'food production' has to match population growth, or the market corrects.
Raw production numbers reflect population, not technology or absolute
capacity.
Google for yield per acre for various crops over the last 100 years.
It's amazing.
Yeah; potatoes, for example, in the US yields have gone up about 2% per year during that
period, measured in hundredweight/acre
<https://quickstats.nass.usda.gov/results/7573B5F6-DD10-30B1-8552-F0804AA1F841>
That doesn't mean we have the same varieties (same nutrition and flavor) as the older
cultivars, though. Tuning for mass of product isn't the same as improving the
product.
So, do the effects of progressive warming have a 2% per year projection? The 2010 loss
of wheat crop to unprecedented heat was 5% of world harvest.
On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 02:14:06 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 12:19:46?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 23:55:52 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 7:11:45?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote: >> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2023 17:44:27 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> >> >> wrote:
Not cattle in Texas; net cattle population has dropped since about 1975. >> That's horrifying. We are all doomed to live on tofu.On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 1:21:19?PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:Food production is radically up in the last decades, and still sloping >> >> up hard.
It doesn't seem to me that 1.5c or even 3c warming would be a big >> >> >> deal. Earth might be better off, actually. But the next ice age will
be terrible.
Warming is already a big deal. Plants and pollinators need to evolve in order to survive in
a different environment, and... all our food crops might go the way of the American
Chestnut and go extinct for a century or two. Can we in our billions feed on
wild rice and mealworms if we need to?
(As I type this, I'm finishing a superb burger from, of all places, a
Portugese restaurant. Burger and excellent fries were just $12 at
Happy Hour.)
The 'food production' has to match population growth, or the market corrects.
Raw production numbers reflect population, not technology or absolute
capacity.
Google for yield per acre for various crops over the last 100 years.
It's amazing.
Yeah; potatoes, for example, in the US yields have gone up about 2% per year during that
period, measured in hundredweight/acre
<https://quickstats.nass.usda.gov/results/7573B5F6-DD10-30B1-8552-F0804AA1F841>
That doesn't mean we have the same varieties (same nutrition and flavor) as the older
cultivars, though. Tuning for mass of product isn't the same as improving the
product.
Potatoes are so much better than they used to be.
Yukon Golds and their variants are fabulous. I boil them for an hour and mash, skin and all, with butter and salt. Leftovers make great panko-crusted potato pancakes, with some cheese and onions and taragon.
Potatoes are nutritionally wonderful and breeding has made them better.
So, do the effects of progressive warming have a 2% per year projection? The 2010 loss of wheat crop to unprecedented heat was 5% of world harvest.
Potatoes are so much better than they used to be. Yukon Golds and
their variants are fabulous. I boil them fo an hour and mash, skin and
all, with butter and salt. Leftovers make great panko-crusted potato pancakes, with some cheeze and onions and taragon.
On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 4:42:12 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
Potatoes are so much better than they used to be. Yukon Golds andNo, russets make better mashed spuds, because you can wash/
their variants are fabulous. I boil them fo an hour and mash, skin and all, with butter and salt. Leftovers make great panko-crusted potato pancakes, with some cheeze and onions and taragon.
pare off the skins, and while the boil progresses, those skins
can get oiled and roasted... very tasty appetizer, with a little
salt.
Red potatoes, and yukon gold are suitable for
whole-thing-boil and mash. They're wrong, though, for
my deep fryer; too sweet, I suppose, they turn dark instead
of brown and crisp.
My favorite sweet potatoes (Hayman's, yellow-flesh) are
getting hard to find, and pricey.
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On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:54:09?PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 4:42:12?AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
Potatoes are so much better than they used to be. Yukon Golds andNo, russets make better mashed spuds, because you can wash/
their variants are fabulous. I boil them fo an hour and mash, skin and
all, with butter and salt. Leftovers make great panko-crusted potato
pancakes, with some cheeze and onions and taragon.
pare off the skins, and while the boil progresses, those skins
can get oiled and roasted... very tasty appetizer, with a little
salt.
Red potatoes, and yukon gold are suitable for
whole-thing-boil and mash. They're wrong, though, for
my deep fryer; too sweet, I suppose, they turn dark instead
of brown and crisp.
My favorite sweet potatoes (Hayman's, yellow-flesh) are
getting hard to find, and pricey.
https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/carbs-potatoes-blood-sugar
On Fri, 29 Sep 2023 18:17:55 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 8:54:09?PM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
On Friday, September 29, 2023 at 4:42:12?AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
Potatoes are so much better than they used to be. Yukon Golds andNo, russets make better mashed spuds, because you can wash/
their variants are fabulous. I boil them fo an hour and mash, skin and >> > all, with butter and salt. Leftovers make great panko-crusted potato
pancakes, with some cheeze and onions and taragon.
pare off the skins, and while the boil progresses, those skins
can get oiled and roasted... very tasty appetizer, with a little
salt.
Red potatoes, and yukon gold are suitable for
whole-thing-boil and mash. They're wrong, though, for
my deep fryer; too sweet, I suppose, they turn dark instead
of brown and crisp.
My favorite sweet potatoes (Hayman's, yellow-flesh) are
getting hard to find, and pricey.
https://www.webmd.com/diabetes/carbs-potatoes-blood-sugar
Always look at the dark side of everything, Fred.
That's really weird.
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