US gun violence kills 123 per daydirector of NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, said in a statement.
By BELINDA ROBINSON in New York | China Daily Global | Updated: 2023-09-15 08:06
Mark Braden (center), whose son Daniel was killed in the Sandy Hook school shooting, hugs another attendee during an event calling for action on preventing gun violence on Wednesday in Washington, DC. WIN MCNAMEE/AFP
Gun violence has killed 123 people per day in the United States this year with the total deaths including 1,079 teenagers and 216 children, figures from the Gun Violence Archive showed.
US President Joe Biden renewed his calls for Congress to pass more gun control in July after a spate of mass shootings. But, in contrast, conservative politicians have pushed for more gun rights nationwide.
In Kentucky, Ohio, Nebraska, Texas and Virginia this year, Republicans have advocated for removing background checks, getting rid of red-flag laws and minimizing gun-free zones that limit where people can carry a firearm around others in public.
There were 30,235 deaths involving a gun as of Sept 1. At least 13,405 were homicides, murders or unintentional shootings. The majority, at 16,830 or 69 per day, were suicides by gun, the archive found.
Some states had far more suicides by gun than others, including Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Illinois and Louisiana.
In two of these states — Texas and Georgia — Republican lawmakers have sought to have gun rights expanded while considering some gun control.
Additionally, the nation has had 498 mass shootings as of mid-September.
In Texas, there are ongoing calls to raise the minimum age for a person to purchase the assault-style weapon often used in mass shootings.
It comes over a year after an 18-year-old gunman shot 19 students and two teachers at the Robb Elementary School in May 2022.
Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott, a staunch gun rights advocate, believes raising the age would be "unconstitutional".
Abbott and other right-wing politicians hold dear the Second Amendment, which gives all US people the "right… to keep and bear arms". They also oppose any interference from the federal government, say experts.
Carl T. Bogus, professor of law at Roger Williams University in Rhode Island, told China Daily: "We are a two-party system, and the Republican Party considers the gun lobby to be an essential component of its political coalition."
In at least 25 states, legal gun owners do not need a permit to carry a handgun in many public places. The number of states that have this law in place has risen since 2020, when only 16 states allowed it.
Abbott signed a law in 2021 allowing for "permitless carry", which enables residents of the state age 21 and older to carry handguns without a license or training.
He warned: "Politicians from the federal level to the local level have threatened to take guns from law-abiding citizens — but we will not let that happen in Texas."
In April 2022, Georgia followed Texas in eliminating the need for a permit to conceal or openly carry a firearm.
Monumental moment
The move was hailed as "a monumental moment for the Second Amendment" by the National Rifle Association, or NRA, which remains a powerful gun rights advocacy group.
"Half the country now rightfully recognizes the fundamental right to carry a firearm for self-defense as enshrined in our Constitution — as opposed to a government privilege that citizens must ask permission to exercise," Jason Ouimet, executive
Last year, the Supreme Court, which has more conservative judges than liberal, expanded gun rights.
It also struck down a century-old New York gun law that required people to obtain a license to carry a gun outside their homes.
The US has more guns than people with approximately 390 million firearms in circulation in 2018 — compared to a population of 331.9 million people — according to the Small Arms Survey, a Swiss-based research project.
US gun violence kills 123 per daydirector of NRA's Institute for Legislative Action, said in a statement.
By BELINDA ROBINSON in New York | China Daily Global | Updated: 2023-09-15 08:06
Mark Braden (center), whose son Daniel was killed in the Sandy Hook school shooting, hugs another attendee during an event calling for action on preventing gun violence on Wednesday in Washington, DC. WIN MCNAMEE/AFP
Gun violence has killed 123 people per day in the United States this year with the total deaths including 1,079 teenagers and 216 children, figures from the Gun Violence Archive showed.
US President Joe Biden renewed his calls for Congress to pass more gun control in July after a spate of mass shootings. But, in contrast, conservative politicians have pushed for more gun rights nationwide.
In Kentucky, Ohio, Nebraska, Texas and Virginia this year, Republicans have advocated for removing background checks, getting rid of red-flag laws and minimizing gun-free zones that limit where people can carry a firearm around others in public.
There were 30,235 deaths involving a gun as of Sept 1. At least 13,405 were homicides, murders or unintentional shootings. The majority, at 16,830 or 69 per day, were suicides by gun, the archive found.
Some states had far more suicides by gun than others, including Texas, California, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Illinois and Louisiana.
In two of these states — Texas and Georgia — Republican lawmakers have sought to have gun rights expanded while considering some gun control.
Additionally, the nation has had 498 mass shootings as of mid-September.
In Texas, there are ongoing calls to raise the minimum age for a person to purchase the assault-style weapon often used in mass shootings.
It comes over a year after an 18-year-old gunman shot 19 students and two teachers at the Robb Elementary School in May 2022.
Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott, a staunch gun rights advocate, believes raising the age would be "unconstitutional".
Abbott and other right-wing politicians hold dear the Second Amendment, which gives all US people the "right… to keep and bear arms". They also oppose any interference from the federal government, say experts.
Carl T. Bogus, professor of law at Roger Williams University in Rhode Island, told China Daily: "We are a two-party system, and the Republican Party considers the gun lobby to be an essential component of its political coalition."
In at least 25 states, legal gun owners do not need a permit to carry a handgun in many public places. The number of states that have this law in place has risen since 2020, when only 16 states allowed it.
Abbott signed a law in 2021 allowing for "permitless carry", which enables residents of the state age 21 and older to carry handguns without a license or training.
He warned: "Politicians from the federal level to the local level have threatened to take guns from law-abiding citizens — but we will not let that happen in Texas."
In April 2022, Georgia followed Texas in eliminating the need for a permit to conceal or openly carry a firearm.
Monumental moment
The move was hailed as "a monumental moment for the Second Amendment" by the National Rifle Association, or NRA, which remains a powerful gun rights advocacy group.
"Half the country now rightfully recognizes the fundamental right to carry a firearm for self-defense as enshrined in our Constitution — as opposed to a government privilege that citizens must ask permission to exercise," Jason Ouimet, executive
Last year, the Supreme Court, which has more conservative judges than liberal, expanded gun rights.
It also struck down a century-old New York gun law that required people to obtain a license to carry a gun outside their homes.
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <manta103g@gmail.com>
wrote:
US gun violence kills 123 per day By BELINDA ROBINSON in New York |
China Daily Global | Updated: 2023-09-15 08:06 Mark Braden (center),
whose son Daniel was killed in the Sandy Hook school shooting, hugs
another attendee during an event calling for action on preventing gun >>violence on Wednesday in Washington, DC. WIN MCNAMEE/AFP
Gun violence has killed 123 people per day in the United States this
year with the total deaths including 1,079 teenagers and 216 children, >>figures from the Gun Violence Archive showed.
US President Joe Biden renewed his calls for Congress to pass more gun >>control in July after a spate of mass shootings. But, in contrast, >>conservative politicians have pushed for more gun rights nationwide.
In Kentucky, Ohio, Nebraska, Texas and Virginia this year, Republicans
have advocated for removing background checks, getting rid of red-flag
laws and minimizing gun-free zones that limit where people can carry a >>firearm around others in public.
There were 30,235 deaths involving a gun as of Sept 1. At least 13,405
were homicides, murders or unintentional shootings. The majority, at
16,830 or 69 per day, were suicides by gun, the archive found.
Some states had far more suicides by gun than others, including Texas, >>California, Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, Illinois and Louisiana.
In two of these states — Texas and Georgia — Republican lawmakers have >>sought to have gun rights expanded while considering some gun control.
Additionally, the nation has had 498 mass shootings as of mid-September.
In Texas, there are ongoing calls to raise the minimum age for a person
to purchase the assault-style weapon often used in mass shootings.
It comes over a year after an 18-year-old gunman shot 19 students and
two teachers at the Robb Elementary School in May 2022.
Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott, a staunch gun rights advocate, >>believes raising the age would be "unconstitutional".
Abbott and other right-wing politicians hold dear the Second Amendment, >>which gives all US people the "rightÂ… to keep and bear arms". They also >>oppose any interference from the federal government, say experts.
Carl T. Bogus, professor of law at Roger Williams University in Rhode >>Island, told China Daily: "We are a two-party system, and the Republican >>Party considers the gun lobby to be an essential component of its
political coalition."
In at least 25 states, legal gun owners do not need a permit to carry a >>handgun in many public places. The number of states that have this law
in place has risen since 2020, when only 16 states allowed it.
Abbott signed a law in 2021 allowing for "permitless carry", which
enables residents of the state age 21 and older to carry handguns
without a license or training.
He warned: "Politicians from the federal level to the local level have >>threatened to take guns from law-abiding citizens — but we will not let >>that happen in Texas."
In April 2022, Georgia followed Texas in eliminating the need for a
permit to conceal or openly carry a firearm.
Monumental moment
The move was hailed as "a monumental moment for the Second Amendment" by >>the National Rifle Association, or NRA, which remains a powerful gun
rights advocacy group.
"Half the country now rightfully recognizes the fundamental right to
carry a firearm for self-defense as enshrined in our Constitution — as >>opposed to a government privilege that citizens must ask permission to >>exercise," Jason Ouimet, executive director of NRA's Institute for >>Legislative Action, said in a statement.
Last year, the Supreme Court, which has more conservative judges than >>liberal, expanded gun rights.
It also struck down a century-old New York gun law that required people
to obtain a license to carry a gun outside their homes.
The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 14:59:47 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
Guns don't kill people.
People kill people.
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:using them.
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:<snip>
The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii
puts it in the context of a well-regulated militia. It wasn't clearly worded. and the US gun industry has taken it as an excuse to sell many more guns that the country needs, to people who shouldn't have them and clearly aren't careful enough about
It's a disgraceful political scandal and kills a whole lot of people prematurely, mostly by making suicide a little too easy, but there are worse mental diseases than depression and shooting lots of other people all at once is excessively popular inthe US.
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Bil Sloman, Sydney
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:using them.
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:<snip>
The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii
puts it in the context of a well-regulated militia. It wasn't clearly worded. and the US gun industry has taken it as an excuse to sell many more guns that the country needs, to people who shouldn't have them and clearly aren't careful enough about
The 'well-regulated' attribute is very plainly stated and well understood in 18th century English language to mean high performance. The very idea of militia entails creating a fighting force on very short notice without the benefit of basic training.
Its members are expected to hit the ground running as they say.
That's not going to happen if the recruitment pool don't have experience and proficiency with guns. This belief still holds true to this day. You might investigate the distribution of highly expert marksmen and snipers in modern militaries. You won'tfind many who haven't been using firearms since childhood.
The real culprit in the more notorious senseless mass killings committed by people with mental illness, is mismanagement, if not outright abuse, of psychoactive drug prescriptions and negligent case handling.
the US.It's a disgraceful political scandal and kills a whole lot of people prematurely, mostly by making suicide a little too easy, but there are worse mental diseases than depression and shooting lots of other people all at once is excessively popular in
Baloney.
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:using them.
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:<snip>
The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii
puts it in the context of a well-regulated militia. It wasn't clearly worded. and the US gun industry has taken it as an excuse to sell many more guns that the country needs, to people who shouldn't have them and clearly aren't careful enough about
The 'well-regulated' attribute is very plainly stated and well understood in 18th century English language to mean high performance. The very idea of militia entails creating a fighting force on very short notice without the benefit of basic training.Its members are expected to hit the ground running as they say. That's not going to happen if the recruitment pool don't have experience and proficiency with guns. This belief still holds true to this day. You might investigate the distribution of highly
The real culprit in the more notorious senseless mass killings committed by people with mental illness, is mismanagement, if not outright abuse, of psychoactive drug prescriptions and negligent case handling.the US.
It's a disgraceful political scandal and kills a whole lot of people prematurely, mostly by making suicide a little too easy, but there are worse mental diseases than depression and shooting lots of other people all at once is excessively popular in
Baloney.
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Bil Sloman, Sydney
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sloman certainly isn't mentally stable enough to ever be allowed to own a gun of any type.
He belongs in a country where they treat everyone like mindless children.
I wouldn't trust him with a pocket knife because he's always flying off the handle when someone points out his mistakes..
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
Sloman certainly isn't mentally stable enough to ever be allowed to own a gun of any type.I'm not mentally unstable enough to want to own one.
The only one I've ever fired was standard Australian army 0.303 calibre single shot rifle when I was an army cadet at school. It had had been sleeved down to 0.22 calibre so it was rather heavy, but that was what we used at the rifle range. As far as Ican remember I hit the target and didn't hit anything else.
Many years later I found myself firing a Dutch cross bow at a target - I been dragged into an outing with my university co-workers and we all went to some village which had stuck with the cross-bow for their militia when richer villages had gone overto muskets. Again, I hit the target and didn't hit anything else
He belongs in a country where they treat everyone like mindless children.Far from it. If you need a gun you can get a gun license. Lots of farmers do. Mindless children can't (unlike the US).
I wouldn't trust him with a pocket knife because he's always flying off the handle when someone points out his mistakes..I get irritated when people falsely claim I've made a mistake. I'm much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn't happen often. Mike Terrell can't tell the difference.
My parents trusted me with edged tools from an early age. I've got two scars from when they slipped, but I've done a lot of woodworking, and there 's not a lot of blood on the pieces that are still spread around the house.
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Bozo Bill Slowman, Sydney
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
Sloman certainly isn't mentally stable enough to ever be allowed to own a gun of any type.
I'm not mentally unstable enough to want to own one.
At least you know your limitations, even though you don't know why.
I can remember I hit the target and didn't hit anything else.The only one I've ever fired was standard Australian army 0.303 calibre single shot rifle when I was an army cadet at school. It had had been sleeved down to 0.22 calibre so it was rather heavy, but that was what we used at the rifle range. As far as
to muskets. Again, I hit the target and didn't hit anything else.Many years later I found myself firing a Dutch cross bow at a target - I been dragged into an outing with my university co-workers and we all went to some village which had stuck with the cross-bow for their militia when richer villages had gone over
He belongs in a country where they treat everyone like mindless children.
Far from it. If you need a gun you can get a gun license. Lots of farmers do. Mindless children can't (unlike the US).
I wouldn't trust him with a pocket knife because he's always flying off the handle when someone points out his mistakes.
I get irritated when people falsely claim I've made a mistake. I'm much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn't happen often. Mike Terrell can't tell the difference.
It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.
My parents trusted me with edged tools from an early age. I've got two scars from when they slipped, but I've done a lot of woodworking, and there 's not a lot of blood on the pieces that are still spread around the house.
Most of your scars aren't visible - they are in your head.
Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:47:28 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:using them.
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:<snip>
The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii
puts it in the context of a well-regulated militia. It wasn't clearly worded. and the US gun industry has taken it as an excuse to sell many more guns that the country needs, to people who shouldn't have them and clearly aren't careful enough about
The 'well-regulated' attribute is very plainly stated and well understood in 18th century English language to mean high performance. The very idea of militia entails creating a fighting force on very short notice without the benefit of basic training.Total rubbish. Militia groups were long established parts of their communities, and widely exploited by rich people to show off the fact that they could afford military grade weapons.
Rembrandt's "Night Watch" is a group portrait of a Dutch militia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Watch
The US equivalents couldn't afford that quality of artist.
Its members are expected to hit the ground running as they say.They were expected to have drilled together regularly so that there could be moved around a battle-field as a coherent group or radpidly organised into skirmish line.
The weren't nearly as good as regular soldiers, and it took George Washington a long time to get his colonial army up to the point where they could win occasional battles with British regular troops,
but who do you think were Paul Revere's "minute men"? You are depressingly ignorant.
find many who haven't been using firearms since childhood.That's not going to happen if the recruitment pool don't have experience and proficiency with guns. This belief still holds true to this day. You might investigate the distribution of highly expert marksmen and snipers in modern militaries. You won't
in the US.The real culprit in the more notorious senseless mass killings committed by people with mental illness, is mismanagement, if not outright abuse, of psychoactive drug prescriptions and negligent case handling.But if they can't get their hands on guns they kill many fewer people.
It's a disgraceful political scandal and kills a whole lot of people prematurely, mostly by making suicide a little too easy, but there are worse mental diseases than depression and shooting lots of other people all at once is excessively popular
Baloney.Look at the statistics.
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Bil Sloman, Sydney
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:18:20 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:about using them.
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:47:28 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:<snip>
The Constitution says that the people may keep and bear arms.https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/amendments/amendment-ii
puts it in the context of a well-regulated militia. It wasn't clearly worded. and the US gun industry has taken it as an excuse to sell many more guns that the country needs, to people who shouldn't have them and clearly aren't careful enough
training.The 'well-regulated' attribute is very plainly stated and well understood in 18th century English language to mean high performance. The very idea of militia entails creating a fighting force on very short notice without the benefit of basic
Total rubbish. Militia groups were long established parts of their communities, and widely exploited by rich people to show off the fact that they could afford military grade weapons.
Not in America...
all-in-all was doing absolutely nothing to end that war.Rembrandt's "Night Watch" is a group portrait of a Dutch militia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Night_Watch
The US equivalents couldn't afford that quality of artist.
Its members are expected to hit the ground running as they say.
They were expected to have drilled together regularly so that they could be moved around a battle-field as a coherent group or rapidly organised into a skirmish line.
The weren't nearly as good as regular soldiers, and it took George Washington a long time to get his colonial army up to the point where they could win occasional battles with British regular troops,
The one major true battle fought between the American and British was Saratoga, the humiliating defeat of Burgoyne's Army.
Washington couldn't get anywhere with the British army under Howe solidly entrenched in New York City. Howe lasted until their leisurely withdrawal by the British navy at the very end. Washington was lucky to overrun an isolated garrison of two, but
Cornwallis was eventually cornered and surrendered his army in Yorktown, Most of the fighting was done by the French under Rochambeau and his 6,000 French regulars in concert with De Grace interdicting the British by sea. Washington had a sizablepresence with a force of 20,000, most of whom were drop-ins who joined his march south.
but who do you think were Paul Revere's "minute men"? You are depressingly ignorant.
You do understand the subject matter is militia as it existed in early America.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_(United_States) ( They're mainly talking about using militia for genocide of the indigenous. )
t find many who haven't been using firearms since childhood.That's not going to happen if the recruitment pool don't have experience and proficiency with guns. This belief still holds true to this day. You might investigate the distribution of highly expert marksmen and snipers in modern militaries. You won'
in the US.The real culprit in the more notorious senseless mass killings committed by people with mental illness, is mismanagement, if not outright abuse, of psychoactive drug prescriptions and negligent case handling.
But if they can't get their hands on guns they kill many fewer people.
It's a disgraceful political scandal and kills a whole lot of people prematurely, mostly by making suicide a little too easy, but there are worse mental diseases than depression and shooting lots of other people all at once is excessively popular
Baloney.Look at the statistics.
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:as I can remember I hit the target and didn't hit anything else.
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
Sloman certainly isn't mentally stable enough to ever be allowed to own a gun of any type.
I'm not mentally unstable enough to want to own one.
At least you know your limitations, even though you don't know why.I don't have anybody, or anything, that I need to shoot. If you weren't a anonymous troll you could be pest species that needed to be culled, but you probably look enough like a human being that this would upset people.
The only one I've ever fired was standard Australian army 0.303 calibre single shot rifle when I was an army cadet at school. It had had been sleeved down to 0.22 calibre so it was rather heavy, but that was what we used at the rifle range. As far
over to muskets. Again, I hit the target and didn't hit anything else.Many years later I found myself firing a Dutch cross bow at a target - I been dragged into an outing with my university co-workers and we all went to some village which had stuck with the cross-bow for their militia when richer villages had gone
He belongs in a country where they treat everyone like mindless children.
Far from it. If you need a gun you can get a gun license. Lots of farmers do. Mindless children can't (unlike the US).
I wouldn't trust him with a pocket knife because he's always flying off the handle when someone points out his mistakes.
I get irritated when people falsely claim I've made a mistake. I'm much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn't happen often. Mike Terrell can't tell the difference.
It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.I don't. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.
My parents trusted me with edged tools from an early age. I've got two scars from when they slipped, but I've done a lot of woodworking, and there 's not a lot of blood on the pieces that are still spread around the house.
Most of your scars aren't visible - they are in your head.There are two visible scars on my head (actually my face) - from field hockey. They didn't create any cognitive problems - of the kind you struggle with - or any other. I went on to get a Ph.D. after I'd got them.
Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
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Bozo Bill Slowman, Sydney
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
I get irritated when people falsely claim I've made a mistake. I'm much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn't happen often. Mike Terrell can't tell the difference.
It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.
I don't. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.
Yes, you FUCKING DO! You have recently reaffirmed you ABSURD backing of this ABSURD IDEA. Do I have to POST your OWN WORDS, you fucking IDIOT???
Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this.
This is what you anti-gun fanatics want to think, but, as usual, you CAN'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. Humans WILL kill each other with WHATEVER means available, and the most convenient is a simple CAR!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12526679/Las-Vegas-hit-run-death-cyclist-Andreas-Probst.html
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:far as I can remember I hit the target and didn't hit anything else.
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
Sloman certainly isn't mentally stable enough to ever be allowed to own a gun of any type.
I'm not mentally unstable enough to want to own one.
At least you know your limitations, even though you don't know why.I don't have anybody, or anything, that I need to shoot. If you weren't a anonymous troll you could be pest species that needed to be culled, but you probably look enough like a human being that this would upset people.
The only one I've ever fired was standard Australian army 0.303 calibre single shot rifle when I was an army cadet at school. It had had been sleeved down to 0.22 calibre so it was rather heavy, but that was what we used at the rifle range. As
over to muskets. Again, I hit the target and didn't hit anything else.Many years later I found myself firing a Dutch cross bow at a target - I been dragged into an outing with my university co-workers and we all went to some village which had stuck with the cross-bow for their militia when richer villages had gone
He belongs in a country where they treat everyone like mindless children.
Far from it. If you need a gun you can get a gun license. Lots of farmers do. Mindless children can't (unlike the US).
I wouldn't trust him with a pocket knife because he's always flying off the handle when someone points out his mistakes.
I get irritated when people falsely claim I've made a mistake. I'm much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn't happen often. Mike Terrell can't tell the difference.
Yes, you FUCKING DO! You have recently reaffirmed you ABSURD backing of this ABSURD IDEA. Do I have to POST your OWN WORDS, you fucking IDIOT???It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.I don't. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.
My parents trusted me with edged tools from an early age. I've got two scars from when they slipped, but I've done a lot of woodworking, and there 's not a lot of blood on the pieces that are still spread around the house.
Your scars aren't visible - they are INSIDE YOUR DEMENTED MIND.'Most of your scars aren't visible - they are in your head.There are two visible scars on my head (actually my face) - from field hockey. They didn't create any cognitive problems - of the kind you struggle with - or any other. I went on to get a Ph.D. after I'd got them.
This is what you anti-gun fanatics want to think, but, as usual, you CAN'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. Humans WILL kill each other with WHATEVER means available, and the most convenient is a simple CAR!Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12526679/Las-Vegas-hit-run-death-cyclist-Andreas-Probst.html
--Bozo's Sewage Sweeper
Bozo Bill Slowman, Sydney
I wouldn't bother. The mechanics of maintaining and firing a modern breech-loading rifled gun don't have much relevance to local militias of the war of independence.
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:36:00 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
I wouldn't bother. The mechanics of maintaining and firing a modern breech-loading rifled gun don't have much relevance to local militias of the war of independence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_rifle
Daniel Morgan put together a company of riflemen using these weapons and deployed to the battle of Saratoga. There was an unwritten rule of warfare at the time that prohibited lowly non-commissioned officers from killing officers of the opposing force.Morgan was obsessed with hatred for the officer corps of the British army, and ordered his men to prioritize targeting and killing them, which they did with great proficiency, as in 500 meter shots made from tall trees.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan%27s_Riflemen
Seeing the ghastly wounds made by these large bore projectiles, the Hessians broke and ran. In a few instances their British officer handlers tried to stop them but were shot dead by the Hessians. It was quite a melee.
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:56:57 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:36:00 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
I wouldn't bother. The mechanics of maintaining and firing a modern breech-loading rifled gun don't have much relevance to local militias of the war of independence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_rifleThe long rifle wasn't a local militia weapon. It was specialised and expensive tool used by specialist marksmen,
force. Morgan was obsessed with hatred for the officer corps of the British army, and ordered his men to prioritize targeting and killing them, which they did with great proficiency, as in 500 meter shots made from tall trees.Daniel Morgan put together a company of riflemen using these weapons and deployed to the battle of Saratoga. There was an unwritten rule of warfare at the time that prohibited lowly non-commissioned officers from killing officers of the opposing
professional army units. The needle rifle didn't show up for another sixty years.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan%27s_Riflemen
Seeing the ghastly wounds made by these large bore projectiles, the Hessians broke and ran. In a few instances their British officer handlers tried to stop them but were shot dead by the Hessians. It was quite a melee.There nothing quite like superior weapons used by people who know how to use them. Local militia typically didn't spend that kind on money on their weapons, nor spend the time required to get thoroughly proficient with them. Neither did the bulk of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 9:22:36 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:56:57 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:36:00 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
I wouldn't bother. The mechanics of maintaining and firing a modern breech-loading rifled gun don't have much relevance to local militias of the war of independence.
I don't have definite numbers, but the long rifle was almost certainly standard issue for the Pennsylvania militias.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_rifleThe long rifle wasn't a local militia weapon. It was specialised and expensive tool used by specialist marksmen,
In many other places, the militias were so ad hoc it was a BYOG ( bring your own gun ) operation.
The more upscale hunters from the frontier states like Kentucky and Tennessee possessed the long rifle. They depended on the rifle to hunt game and avoid starvation, which is always a great motivator. The long rifle was not a 'war innovation', it wasa hunting innovation.
force. Morgan was obsessed with hatred for the officer corps of the British army, and ordered his men to prioritize targeting and killing them, which they did with great proficiency, as in 500 meter shots made from tall trees.Daniel Morgan put together a company of riflemen using these weapons and deployed to the battle of Saratoga. There was an unwritten rule of warfare at the time that prohibited lowly non-commissioned officers from killing officers of the opposing
professional army units. The needle rifle didn't show up for another sixty years.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan%27s_Riflemen
Seeing the ghastly wounds made by these large bore projectiles, the Hessians broke and ran. In a few instances their British officer handlers tried to stop them but were shot dead by the Hessians. It was quite a melee.
There nothing quite like superior weapons used by people who know how to use them. Local militia typically didn't spend that kind on money on their weapons, nor spend the time required to get thoroughly proficient with them. Neither did the bulk of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun
Prior to mid-century, the maximum effective range of standard military rifles was 100 meter. The Minie ball projectile fired from rifled weapon increased it to 300 meter. That's a super good advantage over an opposing force that doesn't have them.
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 11:32:45 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 9:22:36 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:56:57 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:36:00 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
enhancing their capacity to look as if they were capable of defending it.I wouldn't bother. The mechanics of maintaining and firing a modern breech-loading rifled gun don't have much relevance to local militias of the war of independence.
I don't have definite numbers, but the long rifle was almost certainly standard issue for the Pennsylvania militias.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_rifleThe long rifle wasn't a local militia weapon. It was specialised and expensive tool used by specialist marksmen,
In many other places, the militias were so ad hoc it was a BYOG ( bring your own gun ) operation.That's the whole point about militias of the period. You had to have your own gun to get in. Back to the ancient Greeks, richer people who could afford proper arms and armour boosted their standing in the community by spending some of their money on
a hunting innovation.The more upscale hunters from the frontier states like Kentucky and Tennessee possessed the long rifle. They depended on the rifle to hunt game and avoid starvation, which is always a great motivator. The long rifle was not a 'war innovation', it was
But hunting was more of a hobby than an avocations. People made money out fur trapping, but they used cheap snares rather than expensive weapons.
force. Morgan was obsessed with hatred for the officer corps of the British army, and ordered his men to prioritize targeting and killing them, which they did with great proficiency, as in 500 meter shots made from tall trees.Daniel Morgan put together a company of riflemen using these weapons and deployed to the battle of Saratoga. There was an unwritten rule of warfare at the time that prohibited lowly non-commissioned officers from killing officers of the opposing
professional army units. The needle rifle didn't show up for another sixty years.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan%27s_Riflemen
Seeing the ghastly wounds made by these large bore projectiles, the Hessians broke and ran. In a few instances their British officer handlers tried to stop them but were shot dead by the Hessians. It was quite a melee.
There nothing quite like superior weapons used by people who know how to use them. Local militia typically didn't spend that kind on money on their weapons, nor spend the time required to get thoroughly proficient with them. Neither did the bulk of
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun
Prior to mid-century, the maximum effective range of standard military rifles was 100 meter. The Minie ball projectile fired from rifled weapon increased it to 300 meter. That's a super good advantage over an opposing force that doesn't have them.But rate of fire is what matters. Snipers don't win battles, and before good spectacles were accessible to infantry men, 300 metres was probably father away than most of them could distinguish a man from a shrub.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:07:31 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
I get irritated when people falsely claim I've made a mistake. I'm much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn't happen often. Mike Terrell can't tell the difference.
It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.
I don't. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.
Yes, you FUCKING DO! You have recently reaffirmed you ABSURD backing of this ABSURD IDEA. Do I have to POST your OWN WORDS, you fucking IDIOT???You really should. The difference between using nuclear explosives - Project Plowshare style - to make a mine inaccessible to an invader, and "nuking your won country" is pretty dramatic.
The US set of some 35 nuclear explosions in it's own country while exploring the idea, and nobody has been prolsecuted for nuking your own country.\
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Plowshare
<snip>
Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this.
This is what you anti-gun fanatics want to think, but, as usual, you CAN'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. Humans WILL kill each other with WHATEVER means available, and the most convenient is a simple CAR!The occasional psychopath will kill another human, and a few of them get lucky and kill several. Giving everybody guns so that they can kill anybody who looks like a psychopath to them isn't a way of minimising the number killed - far from it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12526679/Las-Vegas-hit-run-death-cyclist-Andreas-Probst.html
The Daily Mail exists to give right-wing lunatic like you your daily fix of indignation. It doesn't have anything useful to say, and never did.
The appropriate response is to keep guns and cars out of the hands of dangerous psychopath - the US does have driving licenses but baulks at gun licenses.
Picking dangerous psychopaths isn't easy - you are probably an obvious example, but less stupid people can hide it better. Fantasies about using your concealed-carry gun to kill dangerous criminals are a bit of a give-away
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On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:18:44 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 11:32:45 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 9:22:36 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:56:57 PM UTC+10, sci.electronics.design wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:36:00 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
enhancing their capacity to look as if they were capable of defending it.I wouldn't bother. The mechanics of maintaining and firing a modern breech-loading rifled gun don't have much relevance to local militias of the war of independence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_rifle
The long rifle wasn't a local militia weapon. It was specialised and expensive tool used by specialist marksmen,I don't have definite numbers, but the long rifle was almost certainly standard issue for the Pennsylvania militias.
In many other places, the militias were so ad hoc it was a BYOG ( bring your own gun ) operation.
That's the whole point about militias of the period. You had to have your own gun to get in. Back to the ancient Greeks, richer people who could afford proper arms and armour boosted their standing in the community by spending some of their money on
In the feudal period they also brought along a small army to accompany them.
was a hunting innovation.The more upscale hunters from the frontier states like Kentucky and Tennessee possessed the long rifle. They depended on the rifle to hunt game and avoid starvation, which is always a great motivator. The long rifle was not a 'war innovation', it
But hunting was more of a hobby than an avocations. People made money out fur trapping, but they used cheap snares rather than expensive weapons.
Back in the day, hunting was a necessity. Grazing pastures for livestock were hard to come by in mountainous areas. The frontier was a lawless cesspool of in-humanity. It was absolutely necessary to own a gun for self-defense.
opposing force. Morgan was obsessed with hatred for the officer corps of the British army, and ordered his men to prioritize targeting and killing them, which they did with great proficiency, as in 500 meter shots made from tall trees.Daniel Morgan put together a company of riflemen using these weapons and deployed to the battle of Saratoga. There was an unwritten rule of warfare at the time that prohibited lowly non-commissioned officers from killing officers of the
of professional army units. The needle rifle didn't show up for another sixty years.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgan%27s_Riflemen
Seeing the ghastly wounds made by these large bore projectiles, the Hessians broke and ran. In a few instances their British officer handlers tried to stop them but were shot dead by the Hessians. It was quite a melee.
There nothing quite like superior weapons used by people who know how to use them. Local militia typically didn't spend that kind on money on their weapons, nor spend the time required to get thoroughly proficient with them. Neither did the bulk
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreyse_needle_gun
Prior to mid-century, the maximum effective range of standard military rifles was 100 meter. The Minie ball projectile fired from rifled weapon increased it to 300 meter. That's a super good advantage over an opposing force that doesn't have them.
But rate of fire is what matters. Snipers don't win battles, and before good spectacles were accessible to infantry men, 300 metres was probably father away than most of them could distinguish a man from a shrub.
The British weren't hiding behind shrubs.
That depends. The British organized themselves into ranks that would alternately fire en masse upon the enemy positions. The American adversaries were more into hit and run, taking dispersed positions quickly abandoned. Planning their avenue of escapewas as important as planning the attack itself.
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:19 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:07:31 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
I get irritated when people falsely claim I've made a mistake. I'm much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn't happen often. Mike Terrell can't tell the difference.
It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.
I don't. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.
Yes, you FUCKING DO! You have recently reaffirmed you ABSURD backing of this ABSURD IDEA. Do I have to POST your OWN WORDS, you fucking IDIOT???
You really should. The difference between using nuclear explosives - Project Plowshare style - to make a mine inaccessible to an invader, and "nuking your won country" is pretty dramatic.
The US set of some 35 nuclear explosions in it's own country while exploring the idea, and nobody has been prolsecuted for nuking your own country.\
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Plowshare
<snip>
Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this.
This is what you anti-gun fanatics want to think, but, as usual, you CAN'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. Humans WILL kill each other with WHATEVER means available, and the most convenient is a simple CAR!
The occasional psychopath will kill another human, and a few of them get lucky and kill several. Giving everybody guns so that they can kill anybody who looks like a psychopath to them isn't a way of minimising the number killed - far from it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12526679/Las-Vegas-hit-run-death-cyclist-Andreas-Probst.html
The Daily Mail exists to give right-wing lunatic like you your daily fix of indignation. It doesn't have anything useful to say, and never did.
WTF are you saying, Bozo, that this crime DIDN'T occur?
The appropriate response is to keep guns and cars out of the hands of dangerous psychopath - the US does have driving licenses but baulks at gun licenses.
This crime shows that you DON'T need a gun to kill someone - a car or, better yet, a truck will do nicely. Knives are also useful for up close and personal murders.
Picking dangerous psychopaths isn't easy - you are probably an obvious example, but less stupid people can hide it better. Fantasies about using your concealed-carry gun to kill dangerous criminals are a bit of a give-away.
LOL! I have held a top-secret security clearance; I seriously doubt that you have.
Do you REALLY think they award those to psychopaths???
You, OTOH, have advocated clear psychopathic tendencies, like NUKING and FIREBOMBING YOUR OWN COUNTRY!!!!!
LOL! I have held a top-secret security clearance; I seriously doubt that you have. Do you REALLY think they award those to psychopaths???
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Subject: Re: US gun violence kills 123 per day By BELINDA ROBINSON in New York
| China Daily Global | Updated: 2023-09-15 08:06 Mark Braden (center), whose
son Daniel was killed in the Sandy Hook school shooting, hugs another
attendee during an event calling
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On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:28:41 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
LOL! I have held a top-secret security clearance; I seriously doubt that you have. Do you REALLY think they award those to psychopaths???So did Teixeira, and several hundred thousand other marginal lunatics who shouldn't be trusted with a driver's license.
And in the modern system, having a clearance means you were never caught committing serious crime. Period.
--
Bozo Bill Slowman, Sydney
Bozo's Sewage Sweeper
On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 12:28:41 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:Research in the UK. That was on medical ultrasound, but the project had been spun off from a group that had developed a mortar locating radar for the UK army.
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:19 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:07:31 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
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I get irritated when people falsely claim I've made a mistake. I'm much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn't happen often. Mike Terrell can't tell the difference.
It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.
I don't. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.
Yes, you FUCKING DO! You have recently reaffirmed you ABSURD backing of this ABSURD IDEA. Do I have to POST your OWN WORDS, you fucking IDIOT???
You really should. The difference between using nuclear explosives - Project Plowshare style - to make a mine inaccessible to an invader, and "nuking your won country" is pretty dramatic.
The US set of some 35 nuclear explosions in it's own country while exploring the idea, and nobody has been prolsecuted for nuking your own country.\
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Plowshare
<snip>
Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this.
This is what you anti-gun fanatics want to think, but, as usual, you CAN'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. Humans WILL kill each other with WHATEVER means available, and the most convenient is a simple CAR!
The occasional psychopath will kill another human, and a few of them get lucky and kill several. Giving everybody guns so that they can kill anybody who looks like a psychopath to them isn't a way of minimising the number killed - far from it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12526679/Las-Vegas-hit-run-death-cyclist-Andreas-Probst.html
The Daily Mail exists to give right-wing lunatic like you your daily fix of indignation. It doesn't have anything useful to say, and never did.
WTF are you saying, Bozo, that this crime DIDN'T occur?The criminal act was real enough. but another poster has pointed out that it was joy-riding kids being less skilled drivers than they imagined, rather than intentionally mudereous.
The appropriate response is to keep guns and cars out of the hands of dangerous psychopath - the US does have driving licenses but baulks at gun licenses.
This crime shows that you DON'T need a gun to kill someone - a car or, better yet, a truck will do nicely. Knives are also useful for up close and personal murders.If you are pyschopathic enough to go in for that kind of behavior. Few people are. You do seem to be one of them, and may think that it is more common than better-inforned and saner people.
You'd be wrong. I was cleared to "most secret" under the Australian system, which got me into US Army ECOM at Fort Monmouth in 1970Picking dangerous psychopaths isn't easy - you are probably an obvious example, but less stupid people can hide it better. Fantasies about using your concealed-carry gun to kill dangerous criminals are a bit of a give-away.LOL! I have held a top-secret security clearance; I seriously doubt that you have.
Do you REALLY think they award those to psychopaths???The military is essentially psychopathic, a security clearance just means that they think you are one of their psychopaths. I was glad to get out of the environment. I was security vetted again a few years later when I went to work for EMI Central
You, OTOH, have advocated clear psychopathic tendencies, like NUKING and FIREBOMBING YOUR OWN COUNTRY!!!!!Except, of course that , that I haven't. That's your bizarre misrepresentation of what I was proposing. Only a psychopathic idiot like you could have misunderstood the two very different propositions quite so thoroughly.
--
Bozo Bill Slowman, Sydney
On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 7:34:27 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:Research in the UK. That was on medical ultrasound, but the project had been spun off from a group that had developed a mortar locating radar for the UK army.
On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 12:28:41 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 12:34:19 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 3:07:31 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 10:11:21 PM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 2:34:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:35:46 AM UTC-7, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, September 18, 2023 at 1:11:40 AM UTC+10, Michael Terrell wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:47:28 AM UTC-4, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Saturday, September 16, 2023 at 11:33:45 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, September 17, 2023 at 8:00:11 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 11:56:33 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
<snip>
I get irritated when people falsely claim I've made a mistake. I'm much less worried when somebody picks me up on a real mistake, but it doesn't happen often. Mike Terrell can't tell the difference.
It happens all the time - I only point out a few of them, like thinking that NUKING and FIREBOMBING your OWN COUNTRY is a good idea.
I don't. The mistake that let you think I do - or that you can get away with making that fatuous claim - is all yours.
Yes, you FUCKING DO! You have recently reaffirmed you ABSURD backing of this ABSURD IDEA. Do I have to POST your OWN WORDS, you fucking IDIOT???
You really should. The difference between using nuclear explosives - Project Plowshare style - to make a mine inaccessible to an invader, and "nuking your won country" is pretty dramatic.
The US set of some 35 nuclear explosions in it's own country while exploring the idea, and nobody has been prolsecuted for nuking your own country.\
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Plowshare
<snip>
Defensive gun use (DGU) in the US occurs between 150 and 6500 times PER DAY, with the most likely number around 800.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defensive_gun_use
The main thrust of that report is that your numbers are implausible fantasies, concocted to keep the NRA happy. You capacity for misunderstanding evidence blinds you to this.
This is what you anti-gun fanatics want to think, but, as usual, you CAN'T ACCEPT THE TRUTH. Humans WILL kill each other with WHATEVER means available, and the most convenient is a simple CAR!
The occasional psychopath will kill another human, and a few of them get lucky and kill several. Giving everybody guns so that they can kill anybody who looks like a psychopath to them isn't a way of minimising the number killed - far from it.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12526679/Las-Vegas-hit-run-death-cyclist-Andreas-Probst.html
The Daily Mail exists to give right-wing lunatic like you your daily fix of indignation. It doesn't have anything useful to say, and never did.
WTF are you saying, Bozo, that this crime DIDN'T occur?The criminal act was real enough. but another poster has pointed out that it was joy-riding kids being less skilled drivers than they imagined, rather than intentionally mudereous.
The appropriate response is to keep guns and cars out of the hands of dangerous psychopath - the US does have driving licenses but baulks at gun licenses.
This crime shows that you DON'T need a gun to kill someone - a car or, better yet, a truck will do nicely. Knives are also useful for up close and personal murders.If you are pyschopathic enough to go in for that kind of behavior. Few people are. You do seem to be one of them, and may think that it is more common than better-inforned and saner people.
Picking dangerous psychopaths isn't easy - you are probably an obvious example, but less stupid people can hide it better. Fantasies about using your concealed-carry gun to kill dangerous criminals are a bit of a give-away.
LOL! I have held a top-secret security clearance; I seriously doubt that you have.
You'd be wrong. I was cleared to "most secret" under the Australian system, which got me into US Army ECOM at Fort Monmouth in 1970.
Do you REALLY think they award those to psychopaths???
The military is essentially psychopathic, a security clearance just means that they think you are one of their psychopaths. I was glad to get out of the environment. I was security vetted again a few years later when I went to work for EMI Central
You, OTOH, have advocated clear psychopathic tendencies, like NUKING and FIREBOMBING YOUR OWN COUNTRY!!!!!
Except, of course that , that I haven't. That's your bizarre misrepresentation of what I was proposing. Only a psychopathic idiot like you could have misunderstood the two very different propositions quite so thoroughly.
Which PROVES that YOU are the psychopath, denying what you have WRITTEN here on SED, some very recently, Bozo.
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Subject: Re: US gun violence kills 123 per day By BELINDA ROBINSON in New York
| China Daily Global | Updated: 2023-09-15 08:06 Mark Braden (center), whose
son Daniel was killed in the Sandy Hook school shooting, hugs another
attendee during an event calling
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On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 9:09:52 AM UTC-7, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, September 19, 2023 at 10:28:41 PM UTC-4, Flyguy wrote:
LOL! I have held a top-secret security clearance; I seriously doubt that you have. Do you REALLY think they award those to psychopaths???
So did Teixeira, and several hundred thousand other marginal lunatics who shouldn't be trusted with a driver's license.
And in the modern system, having a clearance means you were never caught committing serious crime. Period.
Translation: I've got NOTHING on you, so I will MAKE SHIT UP!
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