https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
I'm retired. But I have a very small company of other retired engineers. I usually wear an undershirt and briefs. We meet using Skype. Everyone wears whatever is comfortable. We have been doing this for years. I can't even imagine going back to a strict office environment. We're all well-dressed.
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 6:31:08 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wr=
ote:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
I'm retired. But I have a very small company of other retired engineers. I = >usually wear an undershirt and briefs. We meet using Skype. Everyone wears = >whatever is comfortable. We have been doing this for years. I can't even im= >agine going back to a strict office environment. We're all well-dressed.
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 16:30:51 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)Hell, I miss shirt pockets.
Why am I the only one in my neighborhood with his shirt
tucked in ?
RL
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
I've worn either a black or white T-shirt and jeans, every day, for
the past 35+ years.
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 16:30:51 -0700, John Larkin ><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
Hell, I miss shirt pockets.
Why am I the only one in my neighborhood with his shirt
tucked in ?
RL
On 9/14/2023 6:57 PM, Don Y wrote:
I've worn either a black or white T-shirt and jeans, every day, for
the past 35+ years.
I find slacks much more comfortable when sitting for long periods than
blue jeans are, and wearing a shirt with a collar makes my pencil neck
look less pronounced. :-)
Sneakers / trainers paired with slacks is not a great look, and you can
get "dress" shoes nowadays that are just as comfortable as athletic
shoes (plus much more durable) so that's what I wear.
On 9/14/2023 6:57 PM, Don Y wrote:
I've worn either a black or white T-shirt and jeans, every day, for
the past 35+ years.
I find slacks much more comfortable when sitting for long periods than blue
jeans are, and wearing a shirt with a collar makes my pencil neck look less pronounced. :-)
Sneakers / trainers paired with slacks is not a great look, and you can get "dress" shoes nowadays that are just as comfortable as athletic shoes (plus much more durable) so that's what I wear.
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
Hell, I miss shirt pockets.
Why am I the only one in my neighborhood with his shirt
tucked in ?
About a year ago I had to give a talk on a technical topic to a more
general audience. I had just bought a black and red layered 'gipsy'
skirt at a car boot sale but the waistband had begun to disintegrate, so
I took it all to pieces, cut off the frayed material and reconstructed a skirt which looked absolutely stunning but formal when coupled with a
black silky top. I just got it finished the day before the talk.
Afterwards a lady came up to me and said how much she had enjoyed the
talk, even though she didn't understand a lot of it ...but she had spent
most of the time admiring my skirt!
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
I'm self-employed, so I can wear whatever I like - but occasionally I
have to give a formal talk, so I keep a few smart skirts and tops for
those occasions.
About a year ago I had to give a talk on a technical topic to a more
general audience. I had just bought a black and red layered 'gipsy'
skirt at a car boot sale but the waistband had begun to disintegrate, so
I took it all to pieces, cut off the frayed material and reconstructed a >skirt which looked absolutely stunning but formal when coupled with a
black silky top. I just got it finished the day before the talk.
Afterwards a lady came up to me and said how much she had enjoyed the
talk, even though she didn't understand a lot of it ...but she had spent
most of the time admiring my skirt!
On 9/15/2023 8:55 AM, legg wrote:
Hell, I miss shirt pockets.
Helpful for smokers but I don't carry anything around
(besides wallet and keyfob when away from home) so can't
see much need. I keep a pair of eyeglasses in the car (for
driving) and +1.0 readers in hard cases at each workstation
as the markings on components are getting harder to read
at arm's length. But, none needed for most cases.
In office, I have purchased lots of glass (drinking) glasses
that are convenient places to leave things (like pens,
xacto knives, pot-tweekers, lead holders, etc.). Recently
found some votive (tea?) candle holders that are ideal for
small parts (flared upper edge makes it easy to scrape the
parts out with fingertips).
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 16:30:51 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
Hell, I miss shirt pockets.
Why am I the only one in my neighborhood with his shirt
tucked in ?
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 16:30:51 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
Hell, I miss shirt pockets.
Why am I the only one in my neighborhood with his shirt
tucked in ?
RL
Gotta have tees with pocket for the gym to hold the
mp3 player.
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 19:20:24 +0100, l...@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
I'm self-employed, so I can wear whatever I like - but occasionally I
have to give a formal talk, so I keep a few smart skirts and tops for >those occasions.
About a year ago I had to give a talk on a technical topic to a more >general audience. I had just bought a black and red layered 'gipsy'
skirt at a car boot sale but the waistband had begun to disintegrate, so
I took it all to pieces, cut off the frayed material and reconstructed a >skirt which looked absolutely stunning but formal when coupled with a >black silky top. I just got it finished the day before the talk.
Afterwards a lady came up to me and said how much she had enjoyed the >talk, even though she didn't understand a lot of it ...but she had spent >most of the time admiring my skirt!My preferred look is "invisible."
On Thu, 14 Sep 2023 16:30:51 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
Hell, I miss shirt pockets.
Why am I the only one in my neighborhood with his shirt
tucked in ?
RL
Hell, I miss shirt pockets.
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 19:20:24 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
I'm self-employed, so I can wear whatever I like - but occasionally I
have to give a formal talk, so I keep a few smart skirts and tops for
those occasions.
About a year ago I had to give a talk on a technical topic to a more >general audience. I had just bought a black and red layered 'gipsy'
skirt at a car boot sale but the waistband had begun to disintegrate, so
I took it all to pieces, cut off the frayed material and reconstructed a >skirt which looked absolutely stunning but formal when coupled with a
black silky top. I just got it finished the day before the talk.
Afterwards a lady came up to me and said how much she had enjoyed the
talk, even though she didn't understand a lot of it ...but she had spent >most of the time admiring my skirt!
My preferred look is "invisible."
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 19:20:24 +0100, l...@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
I'm self-employed, so I can wear whatever I like - but occasionally I
have to give a formal talk, so I keep a few smart skirts and tops for
those occasions.
About a year ago I had to give a talk on a technical topic to a more >general audience. I had just bought a black and red layered 'gipsy'
skirt at a car boot sale but the waistband had begun to disintegrate, so
I took it all to pieces, cut off the frayed material and reconstructed a >skirt which looked absolutely stunning but formal when coupled with a
black silky top. I just got it finished the day before the talk.
Afterwards a lady came up to me and said how much she had enjoyed theMy preferred look is "invisible."
talk, even though she didn't understand a lot of it ...but she had spent >most of the time admiring my skirt!
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 19:20:24 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
I'm self-employed, so I can wear whatever I like - but occasionally I
have to give a formal talk, so I keep a few smart skirts and tops for
those occasions.
About a year ago I had to give a talk on a technical topic to a more
general audience. I had just bought a black and red layered 'gipsy'
skirt at a car boot sale but the waistband had begun to disintegrate, so
I took it all to pieces, cut off the frayed material and reconstructed a
skirt which looked absolutely stunning but formal when coupled with a
black silky top. I just got it finished the day before the talk.
Afterwards a lady came up to me and said how much she had enjoyed the
talk, even though she didn't understand a lot of it ...but she had spent
most of the time admiring my skirt!
My preferred look is "invisible."
Is this from choice or because it is expected of you?
I like women to look like workers or gardeners or hikers. Tee shirt,
or better undershirt, no makeup, real looking. In a fashion magazine
with "before" and "after" makeovers, I always prefer before.
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
[...]
I like women to look like workers or gardeners or hikers. Tee shirt,
or better undershirt, no makeup, real looking. In a fashion magazine
with "before" and "after" makeovers, I always prefer before.
I'm definitely not a 'heels and lipstick' person, but I much prefer
skirts to trousers, they are so comfortable. I have an assortment of
old denim ones with oil splodges, which I wear when I'm working on
machinery.
For safety, I have to wear trousers when I am doing canal restoration >involving bonfires, but if I have to work in the wet, I wear a skirt. A
wet skirt doesn't cling and wick water into your socks and boots like
trouser legs do - and it dries out twice as quickly because air
circulates on both sides of the material.
If I am giving a presentation, then I feel I need to stand out a bit and
wear something formal but attractive - but still no heels or makeup.
On Sat, 16 Sep 2023 16:13:45 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
(Liz Tuddenham) wrote:
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:
[...]
I like women to look like workers or gardeners or hikers. Tee shirt,
or better undershirt, no makeup, real looking. In a fashion magazine
with "before" and "after" makeovers, I always prefer before.
I'm definitely not a 'heels and lipstick' person, but I much prefer
skirts to trousers, they are so comfortable. I have an assortment of
old denim ones with oil splodges, which I wear when I'm working on >machinery.
Don't your legs get cold? That looks uncomfortable, at least in our
climate. Around here, we say "Wow, she looks great in a parka."
Trans females (biological men) do those things to extremes.
Those are the ones you notice, but the ones that dress and behave
sensibly don't get noticed. There is a comparison here with teenage
girls: they can wear makeup and revealing clothes for the first time in
their lives, so they go a bit too far. Then they find out what suits
them and settle down to be just ordinary women.
Some men have strange ideas about what it means to be a woman and think feminity is all about glamour, sexiness or extreme effeminate behaviour.
They get mixed up with transwomen (in their own minds too) but usually
don't ever transition.
On 9/16/2023 1:03 PM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
(How many men can understand what it must feel like to feel a lump in YOUR breast?)
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trendsI haven't worn a suit or tie in 20 years, and that was for a funeral. Due to the damage to my legs, I haven' worn pants in over 15 years, so it is a pair of shorts, and a tee shirt. I got into yhe habit of wearing bright colored tee shirts when I worked
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
On 9/16/2023 1:03 PM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Those are the ones you notice, but the ones that dress and behave
sensibly don't get noticed. There is a comparison here with teenage
girls: they can wear makeup and revealing clothes for the first time in their lives, so they go a bit too far. Then they find out what suits
them and settle down to be just ordinary women.
I think you are underestimating the social/cultural effects.
E.g., latinas tend to "let it all hang out" because their
culture allows that. They also "feel safe" (WITHIN that
culture) to do so. They KNOW that latinos (and anglos, etc.)
are oggling them -- but know that there are limits on those
actions.
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 9/16/2023 1:03 PM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Those are the ones you notice, but the ones that dress and behave
sensibly don't get noticed. There is a comparison here with teenage
girls: they can wear makeup and revealing clothes for the first time in
their lives, so they go a bit too far. Then they find out what suits
them and settle down to be just ordinary women.
I think you are underestimating the social/cultural effects.
E.g., latinas tend to "let it all hang out" because their
culture allows that. They also "feel safe" (WITHIN that
culture) to do so. They KNOW that latinos (and anglos, etc.)
are oggling them -- but know that there are limits on those
actions.
I'm not sure what you are getting at here; I've never seen the behaviour
you describe but it doesn't seem to be anything to do with transgender -
more like exhibitionism.
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
On 9/16/2023 1:03 PM, Liz Tuddenham wrote:
Those are the ones you notice, but the ones that dress and behave
sensibly don't get noticed. There is a comparison here with teenage
girls: they can wear makeup and revealing clothes for the first time in
their lives, so they go a bit too far. Then they find out what suits
them and settle down to be just ordinary women.
I think you are underestimating the social/cultural effects.
E.g., latinas tend to "let it all hang out" because their
culture allows that. They also "feel safe" (WITHIN that
culture) to do so. They KNOW that latinos (and anglos, etc.)
are oggling them -- but know that there are limits on those
actions.
I'm not sure what you are getting at here; I've never seen the behaviour
you describe but it doesn't seem to be anything to do with transgender -
more like exhibitionism.
I know many transwomen: they are bus drivers, photographers, biologists, programmers, medical professionals, journalists, lawyers, engineers,
etc. They get on with their lives in exactly the same way other women
do in the same jobs. In their leisure time they go shopping, join
Bridge clubs, play in jazz bands, help at the Women's Institute,
restore canals etc. They just want to be left to get on with their
lives in peace.
I can only think of two who have ever attended a Pride event and one of
those was the official photographer. Most of them would never want to
flaunt themselves in public; several of them transitioned many years ago
and their friends and colleagues never think of them as anything other
than women.
As I mentioned before, it's the noisy or inappropriate exhibitionists,
who may not even be trans, who get themselves noticed.
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 4:31:08 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
https://www.insidehook.com/article/style/fall-style-trends
I kinda miss the white shirts and skinny ties and pocket protectors.
(I'm wearing sweats and slippers at work today, but I have an excuse.)
Now, with Zoom and working from home, the question is are they even wearing PANTS?
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