And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
https://apnews.com/article/weather-disasters-climate-change-fire-hurricane-2bcb9fff659d12338cc8f7eb7f82c2a1
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate
figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential
elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of
'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault'
and these 'poor, displaced people' have no other option, have they?
Camp of the Saints, anyone?
https://apnews.com/article/weather-disasters-climate-change-fire-hurricane-2bcb9fff659d12338cc8f7eb7f82c2a1
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up with the climate figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of 'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault' and these 'poor, displaced people' have no otheroption, have they?
Camp of the Saints, anyone?
https://apnews.com/article/weather-disasters-climate-change-fire-hurricane-2bcb9fff659d12338cc8f7eb7f82c2a1
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate
figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of
'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault'
and these 'poor, displaced people' have no other option, have they?
Camp of the Saints, anyone?
https://apnews.com/article/weather-disasters-climate-change-fire-hurricane-2bcb9fff659d12338cc8f7eb7f82c2a1
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They're
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential
elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate
catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of
'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault'
and these 'poor, displaced people' have no other option, have they?
Camp of the Saints, anyone?
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms, and
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They're
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential
elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate
catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of
'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault'
and these 'poor, displaced people' have no other option, have they?
Camp of the Saints, anyone?
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms, and
Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately,
pray tell?
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They're
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential
elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate
catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of
'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault'
and these 'poor, displaced people' have no other option, have they?
Camp of the Saints, anyone?
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms, and
Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately,
pray tell?
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
https://apnews.com/article/weather-disasters-climate-change-fire-hurricane-2bcb9fff659d12338cc8f7eb7f82c2a1
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They're
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential
elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate
catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of
'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault'
and these 'poor, displaced people' have no other option, have they?
Camp of the Saints, anyone?
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms, and
Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What
phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately,
pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:other option, have they?
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> >> On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of 'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault' and these 'poor, displaced people' have no
torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They'reMost of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms, and
emissions since about 1920 far better fits the data.
Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately, pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.
I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2 and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere due to the massive increase in broadcast
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.
I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that
whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2
and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere
due to the massive increase in broadcast emissions since about 1920
far better fits the data.
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:18:22 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:other option, have they?
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of 'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault' and these 'poor, displaced people' have no
Of course they do.and torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They'
<snipped reference to twaddle>
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms,
emissions since about 1920 far better fits the data.
Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately, pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.
I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2 and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere due to the massive increase in broadcast
Largely because Cursitor Doom's lengthy, extensive and totally incompetent investigations ignore modern data - he likes to claim that it all faked - that show he is talking utter bollocks.
Fred Bloggs enthusiasm for energy imbalance is equally daft. The core of the earth can store a huge amount of heat without getting significant warmer, while we live on the thin skin on the surface which has a rather shorter thermal time constant.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydhey
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
https://apnews.com/article/weather-disasters-climate-change-fire-hurricane-2bcb9fff659d12338cc8f7eb7f82c2a1Sure, inflation makes things more expensive.
The worst hurricane in US history was the great Galveston storm of
1900. Houses and lives were cheap back then.
People shouldn't build flimsy, flammible houses in harm's way.
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They're
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> >> On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential
elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate
catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of
'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault' >> >> and these 'poor, displaced people' have no other option, have they?
Camp of the Saints, anyone?
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms, and
Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What
phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately,
pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that
whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2
and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere
due to the massive increase in broadcast emissions since about 1920
far better fits the data.
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:18:22 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:other option, have they?
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of 'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault' and these 'poor, displaced people' have no
Of course they do.and torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They'
<snipped reference to twaddle>
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms,
emissions since about 1920 far better fits the data.
Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately, pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.
I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2 and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere due to the massive increase in broadcast
Largely because Cursitor Doom's lengthy, extensive and totally incompetent investigations ignore modern data - he likes to claim that it all faked - that show he is talking utter bollocks.
Fred Bloggs enthusiasm for energy imbalance is equally daft. The core of the earth can store a huge amount of heat without getting significant warmer, while we live on the thin skin on the surface which has a rather shorter thermal time constant.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydhey
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:35:25?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:disappearance of remains of human activity.
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.Sure, inflation makes things more expensive.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
https://apnews.com/article/weather-disasters-climate-change-fire-hurricane-2bcb9fff659d12338cc8f7eb7f82c2a1
The worst hurricane in US history was the great Galveston storm of
1900. Houses and lives were cheap back then.
People shouldn't build flimsy, flammible houses in harm's way.
Worst stuff has happened. There is strong evidence of some huge sandstorm blowing off the Sahara that killed everyone on NA east coast by suffocation some 10-50 thousand years ago . Evidence is in the form of uncovered sand deposits and abrupt
Be thankful those mega-bear things that stood 15 ft at the shoulder and could run 45 MPH are no longer roaming around.
Everyone is going to have to live in concrete berm houses/ buildings...
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 11:34:21 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:disappearance of remains of human activity.
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:35:25?PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.Sure, inflation makes things more expensive.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
https://apnews.com/article/weather-disasters-climate-change-fire-hurricane-2bcb9fff659d12338cc8f7eb7f82c2a1
The worst hurricane in US history was the great Galveston storm of
1900. Houses and lives were cheap back then.
People shouldn't build flimsy, flammible houses in harm's way.
Worst stuff has happened. There is strong evidence of some huge sandstorm blowing off the Sahara that killed everyone on NA east coast by suffocation some 10-50 thousand years ago . Evidence is in the form of uncovered sand deposits and abrupt
Be thankful those mega-bear things that stood 15 ft at the shoulder and could run 45 MPH are no longer roaming around.
Everyone is going to have to live in concrete berm houses/ buildings... People insist on building big ranch-style houses on beaches and inflood plains. In Louisiana, some people had the sense to use stilt
pilings for the garage level.
Building in or near forests is scenic too.
Lahaina and Paradise were firetraps.
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:18:22?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They're
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential
elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate
catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of
'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault' >> >> >> and these 'poor, displaced people' have no other option, have they?
Camp of the Saints, anyone?
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms, and
find a complete absence of broadcast emissions.I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show thatLet's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What
phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately,
pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.
whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2
and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere
due to the massive increase in broadcast emissions since about 1920
far better fits the data.
You do understand the science has uncovered atmospheric fossils in the form of air bubbles trapped in 100 million year old ice? Methane and CO2 play a very strong role in warming as well as cooling. You don't have to go back nearly as far in time to
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:18:22?AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:other option, have they?
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of 'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault' and these 'poor, displaced people' have no
Of course they do.torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They're
<snipped reference to twaddle>
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms, and
emissions since about 1920 far better fits the data.
Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately, pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.
I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2 and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere due to the massive increase in broadcast
Largely because Cursitor Doom's lengthy, extensive and totally incompetent investigations ignore modern data - he likes to claim that it all faked - that show he is talking utter bollocks.
Fred Bloggs enthusiasm for energy imbalance is equally daft. The core of the earth can store a huge amount of heat without getting significant warmer, while we live on the thin skin on the surface which has a rather shorter thermal time constant.
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 11:26:05 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:and torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They'
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:18:22?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> >> On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate >> >> >> figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential >> >> >> elections.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate >> >> >> catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of
'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault'
and these 'poor, displaced people' have no other option, have they? >> >> >> Camp of the Saints, anyone?
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms,
find a complete absence of broadcast emissions.I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show thatLet's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What
phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately, >> >> pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.
whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2
and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere
due to the massive increase in broadcast emissions since about 1920
far better fits the data.
You do understand the science has uncovered atmospheric fossils in the form of air bubbles trapped in 100 million year old ice? Methane and CO2 play a very strong role in warming as well as cooling. You don't have to go back nearly as far in time to
Sorry, Fred, but the "greenhouse gas" theory of warming is total
garbage and there is *zero* correlation between CO2 levels and
temperature. For the avoidance of doubt, let me repeat that once more: *ZERO* correlation. *If* warming is happening, you need to identify a different culprit for the phenomenon.
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 9:29:17 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:other option, have they?
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:18:22 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of 'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault' and these 'poor, displaced people' have no
and torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They'Of course they do.
<snipped reference to twaddle>
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms,
emissions since about 1920 far better fits the data.
Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately, pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.
I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2 and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere due to the massive increase in broadcast
Largely because Cursitor Doom's lengthy, extensive and totally incompetent investigations ignore modern data - he likes to claim that it all faked - that show he is talking utter bollocks.
Fred Bloggs enthusiasm for energy imbalance is equally daft. The core of the earth can store a huge amount of heat without getting significant warmer, while we live on the thin skin on the surface which has a rather shorter thermal time constant.
Sloman is analytically impaired, he can't come up with the first arithmetic estimate of his insane claims. And his claims run contrary to the best estimates of people like James Hansen.
Sloman may be overlooking the fact the Earth's core has a 100,000 year absorption time constant. This aside from the fact of heat energy flowing from warmer to cooler temperatures making just the thinnest shell of the planet, 200E6 sq mi surface,available for heat exchange, which goes both ways...
Energy balance is everything, and the people who have been working on it have dead certain rate of warming correlating very strongly with it.
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 9:29:17 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:other option, have they?
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:18:22 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of 'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault' and these 'poor, displaced people' have no
and torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They'Of course they do.
<snipped reference to twaddle>
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms,
emissions since about 1920 far better fits the data.
Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately, pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.
I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2 and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere due to the massive increase in broadcast
Largely because Cursitor Doom's lengthy, extensive and totally incompetent investigations ignore modern data - he likes to claim that it all faked - that show he is talking utter bollocks.
Fred Bloggs enthusiasm for energy imbalance is equally daft. The core of the earth can store a huge amount of heat without getting significant warmer, while we live on the thin skin on the surface which has a rather shorter thermal time constant.
The only way global warming can heat the core is by reducing the temperature gradient to the surface, and by a very minuscule amount. So the internally generated thermal energy stabilizes at an immeasurably higher temperature.
Since geothermal energy contributes 100ths of a percent of total global energy input, your idea is totally wackadoodle.
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 11:26:05 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:18:22?PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> >> On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
find a complete absence of broadcast emissions.I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that
whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2
and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere
due to the massive increase in broadcast emissions since about 1920
far better fits the data.
You do understand the science has uncovered atmospheric fossils in the form of air bubbles trapped in 100 million year old ice? Methane and CO2 play a very strong role in warming as well as cooling. You don't have to go back nearly as far in time to
Sorry, Fred, but the "greenhouse gas" theory of warming is total garbage and there is *zero* correlation between CO2 levels and temperature.
For the avoidance of doubt, let me repeat that once more: *ZERO* correlation. *If* warming is happening, you need to identify adifferent culprit for the phenomenon.
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:18:22 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:and torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They'
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential >> >> elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate
catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of
'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault' >> >> and these 'poor, displaced people' have no other option, have they? >> >> Camp of the Saints, anyone?
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms,
find a complete absence of broadcast emissions.Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What
phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately, >> pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2
and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere
due to the massive increase in broadcast emissions since about 1920
far better fits the data.
You do understand the science has uncovered atmospheric fossils in the form of air bubbles trapped in 100 million year old ice? Methane and CO2 play a very strong role in warming as well as cooling. You don't have to go back nearly as far in time to
On Wednesday, 13 September 2023 at 21:26:12 UTC+3, Fred Bloggs wrote:and torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They'
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:18:22 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate >> >> figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential >> >> elections.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate >> >> catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of >> >> 'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault'
and these 'poor, displaced people' have no other option, have they?
Camp of the Saints, anyone?
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms,
find a complete absence of broadcast emissions.Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What >> phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately, >> pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2
and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere
due to the massive increase in broadcast emissions since about 1920
far better fits the data.
You do understand the science has uncovered atmospheric fossils in the form of air bubbles trapped in 100 million year old ice? Methane and CO2 play a very strong role in warming as well as cooling. You don't have to go back nearly as far in time to
Cite please. AFAIK oldest permafrost found in Antarctica is about 2.7 millions years old. From where that 100 million year old ice was taken?
On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 4:49:03 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:no other option, have they?
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 9:29:17 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:18:22 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of 'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault' and these 'poor, displaced people' have
and torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They'Of course they do.
<snipped reference to twaddle>
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms,
broadcast emissions since about 1920 far better fits the data.
Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately, pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.
I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2 and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere due to the massive increase in
when it condenses to form the rigid inner core material, so it is a bit cooler,Largely because Cursitor Doom's lengthy, extensive and totally incompetent investigations ignore modern data - he likes to claim that it all faked - that show he is talking utter bollocks.
Fred Bloggs enthusiasm for energy imbalance is equally daft. The core of the earth can store a huge amount of heat without getting significant warmer, while we live on the thin skin on the surface which has a rather shorter thermal time constant.
The only way global warming can heat the core is by reducing the temperature gradient to the surface, and by a very minuscule amount. So the internally generated thermal energy stabilizes at an immeasurably higher temperature.
Not "measurably high" though the measurements are indirect.
https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/core/
The surface of the inner core is the hottest area, at 6,000° Celsius (which happens to be the same as the surface of the sun), while the centre of the inner core is a bit cooler about 5,200° Celsius. The iron in the liquid outer core absorbs energy
Since geothermal energy contributes 100ths of a percent of total global energy input, your idea is totally wackadoodle.On the contrary, it is perfectly sound thermodynamics, which you don't seem to know enough to understand.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydhey
On Wednesday, 13 September 2023 at 21:26:12 UTC+3, Fred Bloggs wrote:and torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all. They'
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:18:22 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate >> >> figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential >> >> elections.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate >> >> catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of >> >> 'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault'
and these 'poor, displaced people' have no other option, have they?
Camp of the Saints, anyone?
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind storms,
find a complete absence of broadcast emissions.Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What >> phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately, >> pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2
and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere
due to the massive increase in broadcast emissions since about 1920
far better fits the data.
You do understand the science has uncovered atmospheric fossils in the form of air bubbles trapped in 100 million year old ice? Methane and CO2 play a very strong role in warming as well as cooling. You don't have to go back nearly as far in time to
Cite please. AFAIK oldest permafrost found in Antarctica is
about 2.7 millions years old. From where that 100 million
year old ice was taken?
On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 3:07:54 AM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:have no other option, have they?
On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 4:49:03 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 9:29:17 PM UTC-4, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, September 13, 2023 at 7:18:22 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
And they're not beginning to count the billions of international disaster relief.
But science is just a manmade abstraction, none of this is real, it's all a hoax.
Yes, Fred, it's a hoax and the people who come up wth the climate figures are the same ones who count the votes in your presidential elections.
Once the West comes to accept that it's culpable for the 'climate catastrophe' they'll also have to accept hundreds of millions of 'climate refugees' into their homes, because, well, it's 'our fault' and these 'poor, displaced people'
storms, and torrential rainfalls, are now occurring with unprecedented intensity and frequency, causing enormous damage. The federal crop insurance fund is nearly bankrupt, the FEMA disaster relief fund is depleted. It is not looking good for them at all.Of course they do.
<snipped reference to twaddle>
Most of the first world is at higher latitudes causing a delay in the catastrophe. The delay has run its course and ended. The U.S. is fast becoming as big a climate mess as anywhere else. Drought, record heat waves, off the scale wind
broadcast emissions since about 1920 far better fits the data.
Let's just assume all the above nonsense is true for a moment. What phenomenon do you attribute this 'climate catastrophe' to ultimately, pray tell?
Fundamentally it is due to this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth%27s_energy_budget
Regardless of the debate about exactly what's causing this, the imbalance is in fact there and measured with great precision by multiple satellite constellations.
As long as the incoming energy exceeds the outgoing, Earth will continue to get warmer. And there's stuff happening on Earth, like methane release due to tundra melt, that accelerates the warming.
I don't buy it. My own lengthy and extensive investigations show that whilst I can't rule out some amount of warming, I *can* rule out CO2 and methane levels as a culprit. Electron warming of the ionosphere due to the massive increase in
when it condenses to form the rigid inner core material, so it is a bit cooler,Largely because Cursitor Doom's lengthy, extensive and totally incompetent investigations ignore modern data - he likes to claim that it all faked - that show he is talking utter bollocks.
Fred Bloggs enthusiasm for energy imbalance is equally daft. The core of the earth can store a huge amount of heat without getting significant warmer, while we live on the thin skin on the surface which has a rather shorter thermal time constant.
The only way global warming can heat the core is by reducing the temperature gradient to the surface, and by a very minuscule amount. So the internally generated thermal energy stabilizes at an immeasurably higher temperature.
Not "measurably high" though the measurements are indirect.
https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/core/
The surface of the inner core is the hottest area, at 6,000° Celsius (which happens to be the same as the surface of the sun), while the centre of the inner core is a bit cooler about 5,200° Celsius. The iron in the liquid outer core absorbs energy
Right- so that makes it a one way pathway for heat generated in the core to make it to the surface.
The shallow surface isn't uniform in its composition or alteration due to weather, but you don't have to go too deep- compared to the planet radius- before it is. Earth is strictly a net source of geothermal energy emission, not a sink.
Since geothermal energy contributes 100ths of a percent of total global energy input, your idea is totally wackadoodle.
On the contrary, it is perfectly sound thermodynamics, which you don't seem to know enough about to understand.
On Thursday, September 14, 2023 at 4:29:19 AM UTC-4, Öö Tiib wrote:
On Wednesday, 13 September 2023 at 21:26:12 UTC+3, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 5:18:22 PM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 09:54:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 8:58:13?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:40:09 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, September 12, 2023 at 4:12:20?AM UTC-4, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
to find a complete absence of broadcast emissions.You do understand the science has uncovered atmospheric fossils in the form of air bubbles trapped in 100 million year old ice? Methane and CO2 play a very strong role in warming as well as cooling. You don't have to go back nearly as far in time
Cite please. AFAIK oldest permafrost found in Antarctica is about 2.7 millions years old. From where that 100 million
year old ice was taken?
They can go back further than that:
https://www.anl.gov/article/unlocking-the-secrets-of-earths-early-atmosphere
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