Seems a lot of words to say,
Seems a lot of words to say, if you have developed a shoe that might give
you an advantage, we need to inspect it first. Is it OK to wear clothing
with electronic adverts on it rotating as you run. Apparently this is now possible. I'm assuming that hair worn a specific way due to the religion would not be affected as this would breach the equality act.
Maybe a new streamlined Turban can be designed?
Next we will hear that all noises used to start races must be under a certain decibel level to protect the hearing.
Not that it bothers me much, since I'm not in any way going to be an athlete.
Brian
On 2023-09-09, Commander Kinsey <CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
This is ridiculous, from https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)
Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143) >>
5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even if wet.
Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of what
“could impede the view of the judges”, including athletes wearing their hair in a
particular way.
Athletes may compete barefoot or with footwear on one or both feet.
One-off shoes made to order to suit the characteristics of an athlete's foot or other requirements are not permitted.
That seems specifically worded to exclude the South African amputee who shot his wife.
On 09/09/2023 16:19, Commander Kinsey wrote:
One-off shoes made to order to suit the characteristics of an athlete's
foot or other requirements are not permitted.
5.2.2 Where World Athletics has reason to believe that a type of shoe or
specific
technology may not comply with the letter or spirit of the Rules, it may
refer the
shoe or technology for detailed examination and it may prohibit the use
of such
shoes or technology in competition pending examination.
This is to combat the spring shoes that were used last year, or the year before. They had springs in the soles, this gave an advantage, as the
energy that was being lost through the feet was recycled slightly, to
give a 'spring in the step' to the athlete wearing them.
If they can fit it inside the size of a normal shoe sole, what's wrong
with it? Why is it any different than a better spongy sole material?
Of course the only real fair way is to either:
1) Make all athletes run barefoot (it's good for you).
2) Give the athletes shoes provided by the event.
On Sun, 10 Sep 2023 22:13:35 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
If they can fit it inside the size of a normal shoe sole, what's wrong
with it? Why is it any different than a better spongy sole material?
Of course the only real fair way is to either:
1) Make all athletes run barefoot (it's good for you).
2) Give the athletes shoes provided by the event.
Number 2 would be good. There are several automobile race car categories similar to the Legends.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legends_car_racing
Tires: 205/60R13 Federal SS595 (pavement)
American Racer 13 inch (dirt)
The tires aren't provided but are mandated by the rule book. No super high performance tires developed by people with deep pockets. This was a
response to NASCAR. The people wanted to see the driver's skill, not the
bank account of his supporters.
Formula One is down to Pirelli as the sole tire supplier but there are
eight compounds and an arcane set of rules.
The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like the anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a slightly bending the rules collision.
In article <op.2a28iw2cmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...
The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like the anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a slightly bending the rules collision.
Yes they are boring. I gave up on NASCAR when they quit rubbing cars
that are sold at a dealer. In the late 1960's Cryslar made every dealer
take a few cars of a certain kind so they would be legal to race.
The fun days were when the cars were set up to 'cheat' the rules. Like
the gas tank could only be so large, but one racer said the rules did
not say anything about the fuel line so the line was big in diameter and long. One used his roll bar to hold extra fuel.
The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like the
anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a slightly bending the rules collision.
Yes they are boring. I gave up on NASCAR when they quit rubbing cars
that are sold at a dealer. In the late 1960's Cryslar made every dealer
take a few cars of a certain kind so they would be legal to race.
In article <op.2a28iw2cmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...
The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like the anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a slightly bending the rules collision.
Yes they are boring. I gave up on NASCAR when they quit rubbing cars
that are sold at a dealer. In the late 1960's Cryslar made every dealer
take a few cars of a certain kind so they would be legal to race.
The fun days were when the cars were set up to 'cheat' the rules. Like
the gas tank could only be so large, but one racer said the rules did
not say anything about the fuel line so the line was big in diameter and long. One used his roll bar to hold extra fuel.
This is ridiculous, from https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)
Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143)
5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even if wet.
Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of what >could impede the view of the judges, including athletes wearing their hair in a
particular way.
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 16:19:14 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
This is ridiculous, from >>https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4- a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20- %20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)
Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule
143)
5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even
if wet.
Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of >>what could impede the view of the judges, including athletes wearing >>their hair in a particular way.
Those two ideas contradict already.
Is clothing required?
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 16:19:14 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
This is ridiculous, from https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)
Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143) >>
5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even if wet.
Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of what
“could impede the view of the judges”, including athletes wearing their hair in a
particular way.
Those two ideas contradict already.
Is clothing required?
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 07:22:30 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 09 Sep 2023 16:19:14 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20- %20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)
<CK1@nospam.com> wrote:
This is ridiculous, from
https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-
Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule
143)
5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even >>> if wet.
Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of >>> what could impede the view of the judges, including athletes wearing
their hair in a particular way.
Those two ideas contradict already.
Is clothing required?
It wasn't in the days past, but I believe only men performed in the
Olympics.
On 2023-09-11 00:13, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article <op.2a28iw2cmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...
The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like the anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a slightly bending the rules collision.
Yes they are boring. I gave up on NASCAR when they quit rubbing cars
that are sold at a dealer. In the late 1960's Cryslar made every dealer
take a few cars of a certain kind so they would be legal to race.
The fun days were when the cars were set up to 'cheat' the rules. Like
the gas tank could only be so large, but one racer said the rules did
not say anything about the fuel line so the line was big in diameter and
long. One used his roll bar to hold extra fuel.
The old days are still here, at least in the more grass-roots racing and drag'n'drive events. It's when big money is involved that things get
boring. (Oh, or when the cars are electric.) ;)
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 13:44:08 +0100, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 2023-09-11 00:13, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article <op.2a28iw2cmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...
Yes they are boring. I gave up on NASCAR when they quit rubbing cars
The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like
the anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on
the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a
slightly bending the rules collision.
that are sold at a dealer. In the late 1960's Cryslar made every
dealer take a few cars of a certain kind so they would be legal to
race.
The fun days were when the cars were set up to 'cheat' the rules.
Like the gas tank could only be so large, but one racer said the rules
did not say anything about the fuel line so the line was big in
diameter and long. One used his roll bar to hold extra fuel.
The old days are still here, at least in the more grass-roots racing
and drag'n'drive events. It's when big money is involved that things
get boring. (Oh, or when the cars are electric.) ;)
What's wrong with electric cars? More acceleration.
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:17:51 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
And why would women object to being naked more than men would?
More floppy bits? I understand sprinting without a sports bra can be >uncomfortable (for genuine women)
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:17:51 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
And why would women object to being naked more than men would?
More floppy bits? I understand sprinting without a sports bra can be uncomfortable (for genuine women)
On 12 Sep 2023 00:15:17 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:17:51 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
And why would women object to being naked more than men would?
More floppy bits? I understand sprinting without a sports bra can be
uncomfortable (for genuine women)
Boys have floppy bits too!
The sports bra changed womens' sports.
There's a funny story about that.
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 18:19:07 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 13:44:08 +0100, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
On 2023-09-11 00:13, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article <op.2a28iw2cmvhs6z@ryzen>, CK1@nospam.com says...
Yes they are boring. I gave up on NASCAR when they quit rubbing cars
The trouble is, when all cars are the same it gets boring. I like
the anyone can enter races with all sorts of cars, some way faster on >>>>> the straights, some way faster on the corners, some way better in a
slightly bending the rules collision.
that are sold at a dealer. In the late 1960's Cryslar made every
dealer take a few cars of a certain kind so they would be legal to
race.
The fun days were when the cars were set up to 'cheat' the rules.
Like the gas tank could only be so large, but one racer said the rules >>>> did not say anything about the fuel line so the line was big in
diameter and long. One used his roll bar to hold extra fuel.
The old days are still here, at least in the more grass-roots racing
and drag'n'drive events. It's when big money is involved that things
get boring. (Oh, or when the cars are electric.) ;)
What's wrong with electric cars? More acceleration.
Less noise... I remember when the first Wankels came out and purred
around the track. No fun. Even now the ones that make noise have been
gentled down. When I took my wife to her first stock car race it induced a panic attack as the stands vibrated to the unmuffled engines.
And why would women object to being naked more than men would?
Just put in a louder version of that monumentally stupid invention they
put in domestic electric cars, making an engine noise through a speaker
below 20mph for stupid folk who don't look before crossing. That and
the daytime running lights is the first thing I remove from a car.
This is ridiculous, from https://worldathletics.org/download/download?filename=a7c00486-9dc2-4ba4-a118-00789494cbfb.pdf&urlslug=C2.1%20-%20Technical%20Rules%20(amendment%20to%20Rule%205)
Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143)
5.1 The clothing must be made of a material which is nontransparent even if wet.
Rule 5.1 of the Technical Rules should be interpreted widely in terms of what
“could impede the view of the judges”, including athletes wearing their hair in a
particular way.
Athletes may compete barefoot or with footwear on one or both feet.
One-off shoes made to order to suit the characteristics of an athlete's foot or other requirements are not permitted.
5.2.2 Where World Athletics has reason to believe that a type of shoe or specific
technology may not comply with the letter or spirit of the Rules, it may refer the
shoe or technology for detailed examination and it may prohibit the use of such
shoes or technology in competition pending examination.
Note (i): At least four months prior to an International Competition at which an
athlete proposes to wear a shoe that has not previously been used in International
Competitions, the athlete (or their representative) must submit to World Athletics
the specification (i.e. size, dimensions, sole thickness, structure etc.) of that new
shoe; confirm if the new shoe is to be customised in any way; and provide Amendments to Rule 5 of the Technical Rules (formerly Competition Rule 143) Approved by Council on 15 July 2020, effective from 28 July 2020
Amendments to Rule 5, in force on 28 July 2020 2
information about the availability of the new shoe on the open retail market (i.e.
either in store or online). After reviewing this information World Athletics may
request that samples of the shoe be submitted by the manufacturer for further
examination. If the shoe is requested for further investigation, World Athletics will
use reasonable efforts to complete its examination as soon as practicable (if
possible, within 30 days of receipt of the shoe by World Athletics).
Note (ii): Transition Period 31 January 2020 to 8 August 2021. This note has been inserted in recognition of the fact that on 15 July 2020 a Working Group
on Athletic Shoes has been established by Council which by the end of the year 2020, in collaboration with manufacturers, will review the entirety of this Rule 5 as it applies to shoes by the end of the year 2020. The following
notes (a) to (e) will assist in guiding all stakeholders with the practical application of this Rule 5 as it applies to all shoes (road or spike shoe) until
and including, 8 August 2021.
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 02:06:47 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Just put in a louder version of that monumentally stupid invention they
put in domestic electric cars, making an engine noise through a speaker
below 20mph for stupid folk who don't look before crossing. That and
the daytime running lights is the first thing I remove from a car.
After owning the car for three years I realized I have daylight running lights. It's a position on the stalk that I never noticed as I turned the lights on.
The artificial engine noise for an electric car is nowhere as stupid as
the artificial engine noise for the EcoBoost engine.
https://www.carscoops.com/2014/10/this-is-what-ford-mustang-ecoboost-fake/
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 03:47:27 +0100, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 02:06:47 +0100, Commander Kinsey wrote:
Just put in a louder version of that monumentally stupid invention
they put in domestic electric cars, making an engine noise through a
speaker below 20mph for stupid folk who don't look before crossing.
That and the daytime running lights is the first thing I remove from a
car.
After owning the car for three years I realized I have daylight running
lights. It's a position on the stalk that I never noticed as I turned
the lights on.
At least you can turn them off. EU cars you have to rewire/remove the bulb/etc.
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