• Climate impact of Inflation Boosting Act impossible to measure

    From Flyguy@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 15 13:39:57 2022
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Mon Aug 15 22:27:30 2022
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.

    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    He's subtle about it, but the evidence convinces me. Gnatguy is a sucker for this kind of misinformation, which is designed to impress half-wits like him.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Flyguy@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Tue Aug 16 22:16:09 2022
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.
    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    He's subtle about it, but the evidence convinces me. Gnatguy is a sucker for this kind of misinformation, which is designed to impress half-wits like him.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    Bozo Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name. Get back to us with an actual scientific argument. I bet you get to peer review global warming papers...

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Wed Aug 17 00:29:38 2022
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.
    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    Bozo Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.

    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 17 03:37:07 2022
    On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 09:29:42 UTC+2, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.
    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg
    Bozo Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.
    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.
    fake


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  • From Mike Monett VE3BTI@21:1/5 to whit3rd@gmail.com on Wed Aug 17 10:45:07 2022
    whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org
    wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more
    profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.
    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    Bozo Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot,
    fool, or similar name.

    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick) hirelings doing the spin that brings
    in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate -change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html> for instance.

    whit3rd, please stop responding to these trolls. They waste your time, and
    you waste our time reading your post. Your newsreader should have a PLONK function. Please apply it to all these people.



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  • From a a@21:1/5 to a a on Wed Aug 17 05:00:32 2022
    On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 12:37:11 UTC+2, a a wrote:
    On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 09:29:42 UTC+2, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.
    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg
    Bozo Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.
    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.
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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Wed Aug 17 04:38:35 2022
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 3:16:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.
    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    He's subtle about it, but the evidence convinces me. Gnatguy is a sucker for this kind of misinformation, which is designed to impress half-wits like him.

    Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.

    Only the shills, fools and idiots, and Gnatguy fits each of those term exactly. Gnatguy may think he knows enough to be able to distinguish intelligent dispute from any other kind, but that's just one more of his demented delusions.

    Get back to us with an actual scientific argument. I bet you get to peer review global warming papers...

    Why would I? I've only peer-reviewed stuff for Measurement Science and Technology and - just once - for Review of Scientific Instruments. They don't publish papers on global warming. I've certainly laid out the scientific arguments here from time to time,
    but with a twit like you it would be a waste of time.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Wed Aug 17 05:02:09 2022
    On Wednesday, 17 August 2022 at 13:38:41 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 3:16:14 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.
    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    He's subtle about it, but the evidence convinces me. Gnatguy is a sucker for this kind of misinformation, which is designed to impress half-wits like him.

    Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.
    Only the shills, fools and idiots, and Gnatguy fits each of those term exactly. Gnatguy may think he knows enough to be able to distinguish intelligent dispute from any other kind, but that's just one more of his demented delusions.
    Get back to us with an actual scientific argument. I bet you get to peer review global warming papers...
    Why would I? I've only peer-reviewed stuff for Measurement Science and Technology and - just once - for Review of Scientific Instruments. They don't publish papers on global warming. I've certainly laid out the scientific arguments here from time to
    time, but with a twit like you it would be a waste of time.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    Bill downgrades ieee.org to shit
    with his every comment

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  • From Flyguy@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 17 20:29:40 2022
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:29:42 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.
    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg
    Bozo Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.
    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.

    That is just a pathetic WHATABOUTISM - I am specifically talking about Bozo Bill.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Wed Aug 17 21:29:27 2022
    On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:29:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:29:42 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.
    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    Bozo Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.

    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.

    That is just a pathetic WHATABOUTISM - I am specifically talking about Bill.

    Anything rather than address the issue under discussion. Gnatguy is a gullible sucker for propaganda aimed at idiots like him, and resents it when this is pointed out.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Flyguy@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Sat Aug 20 20:00:00 2022
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:29:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:29:42 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.
    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    Bozo Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.

    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.

    That is just a pathetic WHATABOUTISM - I am specifically talking about Bill.

    Anything rather than address the issue under discussion. Flyguy is a gullible sucker for propaganda aimed at idiots like him, and resents it when this is pointed out.

    Yeah, like the IPCC.


    --
    Bozo Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Sat Aug 20 21:03:29 2022
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 1:00:04 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:29:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:29:42 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.
    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    Bozo Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.

    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.

    That is just a pathetic WHATABOUTISM - I am specifically talking about Bill.

    Anything rather than address the issue under discussion. Flyguy is a gullible sucker for propaganda aimed at idiots like him, and resents it when this is pointed out.

    Yeah, like the IPCC.

    https://www.ipcc.ch/

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was created by politicians to provide them with an expert opinion on where the planet's climate was going.

    To the extent that politicians are unsophisticated about climate science, you might see them as idiots, but the panel wasn't set up to produce propaganda but rather expert advice. The climate change denial propaganda lobby doesn't like the advice or the
    consequences for fossil fuel extraction industry that funds the propaganda, and their output is aimed at people even more unsophisticated than the average politician. It has to be, since most of it is obvious nonsense, but it's good enough to fool people
    like Gnatguy and John Larkin.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Sun Aug 21 07:54:09 2022
    On Sunday, 21 August 2022 at 06:03:33 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 1:00:04 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:29:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:29:42 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.
    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    Bozo Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.

    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.

    That is just a pathetic WHATABOUTISM - I am specifically talking about Bill.

    Anything rather than address the issue under discussion. Flyguy is a gullible sucker for propaganda aimed at idiots like him, and resents it when this is pointed out.

    Yeah, like the IPCC.
    https://www.ipcc.ch/

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was created by politicians to provide them with an expert opinion on where the planet's climate was going.

    To the extent that politicians are unsophisticated about climate science, you might see them as idiots, but the panel wasn't set up to produce propaganda but rather expert advice. The climate change denial propaganda lobby doesn't like the advice or
    the consequences for fossil fuel extraction industry that funds the propaganda, and their output is aimed at people even more unsophisticated than the average politician. It has to be, since most of it is obvious nonsense, but it's good enough to fool
    people like Gnatguy and John Larkin.

    fake by ieee.org

    every .Ch registered business is US controlled
    so there were no politicians at all

    There was Al Gore and his political agenda to win Presidency
    via climate fake, supported by Nobel Prize

    Climate fake was spread world-wide, globally
    to kill China economy, industry, production

    but China is governed by
    the Confucian philosophy
    the wise man should be listened to

    so today China is global leader and No.1 global economy

    No.1 leader in the production of solar panels, wind turbines, electric cars, electric bikes, electric scooters

    Twin Sun University
    https://spaceweather.com/images2022/17aug22/cme_anim.gif

    GEOMAGNETIC UNREST: A CME hit Earth's magnetic field on Aug. 20th at 1812 UT. The weak impact caused an episode of geomagnetic unrest (Kp=4) but not a full-fledged geomagnetic storm. Another similar CME is expected to arrive on Aug. 21st, and it could
    push Earth's magnetosphere over the threshold of minor G1-class storming. High-latitude sky watchers should remain alert for auroras. Aurora alerts: SMS Text

    HELIANTHUS BOREALIS: Earth's magnetosphere is buzzing with activity. At least three CMEs have hit since Aug. 17th, none with great force, but together sufficient to spark multiple geomagnetic storms and substorms. On Aug. 20th, auroras spilled over the
    Canadian border into North Dakota:

    https://www.spaceweather.com/

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  • From Flyguy@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Sun Aug 21 15:46:16 2022
    On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 9:03:33 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 1:00:04 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:29:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:29:42 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.
    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    Bozo Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.

    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.

    That is just a pathetic WHATABOUTISM - I am specifically talking about Bill.

    Anything rather than address the issue under discussion. Flyguy is a gullible sucker for propaganda aimed at idiots like him, and resents it when this is pointed out.

    Yeah, like the IPCC.
    https://www.ipcc.ch/

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was created by politicians to provide them with an expert opinion on where the planet's climate was going.

    To the extent that politicians are unsophisticated about climate science, you might see them as idiots, but the panel wasn't set up to produce propaganda but rather expert advice. The climate change denial propaganda lobby doesn't like the advice or
    the consequences for fossil fuel extraction industry that funds the propaganda, and their output is aimed at people even more unsophisticated than the average politician. It has to be, since most of it is obvious nonsense, but it's good enough to fool
    people like Gnatguy and John Larkin.

    --
    Bozo Bill Sloman, Sydney

    Which is it, Bozo Bill, propaganda or science? That is where the models came from that said the Inflation Boosting Act's affect on global warming is imperceptible.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Sun Aug 21 16:59:42 2022
    On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 8:46:19 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 9:03:33 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 1:00:04 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:29:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:29:42 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.

    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.

    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.

    That is just a pathetic WHATABOUTISM - I am specifically talking about Bill.

    Anything rather than address the issue under discussion. Flyguy is a gullible sucker for propaganda aimed at idiots like him, and resents it when this is pointed out.

    Yeah, like the IPCC.

    https://www.ipcc.ch/

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was created by politicians to provide them with an expert opinion on where the planet's climate was going.

    To the extent that politicians are unsophisticated about climate science, you might see them as idiots, but the panel wasn't set up to produce propaganda but rather expert advice. The climate change denial propaganda lobby doesn't like the advice or
    the consequences for fossil fuel extraction industry that funds the propaganda, and their output is aimed at people even more unsophisticated than the average politician. It has to be, since most of it is obvious nonsense, but it's good enough to fool
    people like Gnatguy and John Larkin.

    Which is it, Bill, propaganda or science?

    Bjorn Lomborg produces propaganda. He dresses it up as if it were science, but it is propaganda.

    That is where the models came from that said the Inflation Boosting Act's affect on global warming is imperceptible.

    Not exactly. Bjorn Lomborg has claimed that this can be argued. Nobody sane would take him seriously. Gnatguy isn't remotely sane.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Flyguy@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Sun Aug 21 20:30:35 2022
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 4:59:46 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 8:46:19 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 9:03:33 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 1:00:04 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:29:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:29:42 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.

    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.

    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.

    That is just a pathetic WHATABOUTISM - I am specifically talking about Bill.

    Anything rather than address the issue under discussion. Flyguy is a gullible sucker for propaganda aimed at idiots like him, and resents it when this is pointed out.

    Yeah, like the IPCC.

    https://www.ipcc.ch/

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was created by politicians to provide them with an expert opinion on where the planet's climate was going.

    To the extent that politicians are unsophisticated about climate science, you might see them as idiots, but the panel wasn't set up to produce propaganda but rather expert advice. The climate change denial propaganda lobby doesn't like the advice
    or the consequences for fossil fuel extraction industry that funds the propaganda, and their output is aimed at people even more unsophisticated than the average politician. It has to be, since most of it is obvious nonsense, but it's good enough to fool
    people like Gnatguy and John Larkin.

    Which is it, Bill, propaganda or science?

    Bjorn Lomborg produces propaganda. He dresses it up as if it were science, but it is propaganda.
    That is where the models came from that said the Inflation Boosting Act's affect on global warming is imperceptible.
    Not exactly. Bjorn Lomborg has claimed that this can be argued. Nobody sane would take him seriously. Gnatguy isn't remotely sane.

    --
    Bozo Bill Sloman, Sydney

    Hey Bozo Bill, you DIDN'T answer the question: are the IPCC climate models propaganda or science?

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Sun Aug 21 23:05:44 2022
    On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 3:54:19 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 10:38:04 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 1:30:39 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 4:59:46 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 8:46:19 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 9:03:33 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 1:00:04 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:29:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:29:42 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.

    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.

    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.

    That is just a pathetic WHATABOUTISM - I am specifically talking about Bill.

    Anything rather than address the issue under discussion. Flyguy is a gullible sucker for propaganda aimed at idiots like him, and resents it when this is pointed out.

    Yeah, like the IPCC.

    https://www.ipcc.ch/

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was created by politicians to provide them with an expert opinion on where the planet's climate was going.

    To the extent that politicians are unsophisticated about climate science, you might see them as idiots, but the panel wasn't set up to produce propaganda but rather expert advice. The climate change denial propaganda lobby doesn't like the
    advice or the consequences for fossil fuel extraction industry that funds the propaganda, and their output is aimed at people even more unsophisticated than the average politician. It has to be, since most of it is obvious nonsense, but it's good enough
    to fool people like Gnatguy and John Larkin.

    Which is it, Bill, propaganda or science?

    Bjorn Lomborg produces propaganda. He dresses it up as if it were science, but it is propaganda.

    That is where the models came from that said the Inflation Boosting Act's affect on global warming is imperceptible.

    Not exactly. Bjorn Lomborg has claimed that this can be argued. Nobody sane would take him seriously. Gnatguy isn't remotely sane.

    Hey Bill, you DIDN'T answer the question: are the IPCC climate models propaganda or science?

    The IPCC doesn't produce climate models. It exists to digest the scientific literature and reports what is says in terms that politicians can understand.

    If Bjorn Lomborg had claimed that he was using IPCC models, he would have been lying. He may have said that he was using models that the IPCC has presented as reliable, which makes them science rather than propaganda, but if Bjorn Lomborg was
    claiming to have pushed numbers into IPCC endorsed models, he has a history of getting the results he wants by using dubious methods, so his claims about what the models seem to say are very likely to be propaganda.

    Hey, I didn't say the IPCC produced the models, but ARE the climate models used by Lomborg to make his analysis.

    I wonder what Gnatguy intended that to mean.

    You haven't done any analysis, so you are BLOWING SMOKE!

    I've done enough analysis to be well aware that it's Bjorn Lomborg who is blowing smoke. He's a climate change denial shill, and that's what they do.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Sun Aug 21 22:38:00 2022
    On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 1:30:39 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 4:59:46 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 8:46:19 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 9:03:33 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 1:00:04 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:29:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:29:42 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.

    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.

    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.

    That is just a pathetic WHATABOUTISM - I am specifically talking about Bill.

    Anything rather than address the issue under discussion. Flyguy is a gullible sucker for propaganda aimed at idiots like him, and resents it when this is pointed out.

    Yeah, like the IPCC.

    https://www.ipcc.ch/

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was created by politicians to provide them with an expert opinion on where the planet's climate was going.

    To the extent that politicians are unsophisticated about climate science, you might see them as idiots, but the panel wasn't set up to produce propaganda but rather expert advice. The climate change denial propaganda lobby doesn't like the advice
    or the consequences for fossil fuel extraction industry that funds the propaganda, and their output is aimed at people even more unsophisticated than the average politician. It has to be, since most of it is obvious nonsense, but it's good enough to fool
    people like Gnatguy and John Larkin.

    Which is it, Bill, propaganda or science?

    Bjorn Lomborg produces propaganda. He dresses it up as if it were science, but it is propaganda.

    That is where the models came from that said the Inflation Boosting Act's affect on global warming is imperceptible.

    Not exactly. Bjorn Lomborg has claimed that this can be argued. Nobody sane would take him seriously. Gnatguy isn't remotely sane.

    Hey Bill, you DIDN'T answer the question: are the IPCC climate models propaganda or science?

    The IPCC doesn't produce climate models. It exists to digest the scientific literature and reports what is says in terms that politicians can understand.

    If Bjorn Lomborg had claimed that he was using IPCC models, he would have been lying. He may have said that he was using models that the IPCC has presented as reliable, which makes them science rather than propaganda, but if Bjorn Lomborg was claiming to
    have pushed numbers into IPCC endorsed models, he has a history of getting the results he wants by using dubious methods, so his claims about what the models seem to say are very likely to be propaganda.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Flyguy@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Sun Aug 21 22:54:15 2022
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 10:38:04 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 1:30:39 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 4:59:46 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, August 22, 2022 at 8:46:19 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Saturday, August 20, 2022 at 9:03:33 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Sunday, August 21, 2022 at 1:00:04 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 9:29:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, August 18, 2022 at 1:29:44 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 17, 2022 at 12:29:42 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 10:16:14 PM UTC-7, Flyguy wrote:
    On Monday, August 15, 2022 at 10:27:34 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 16, 2022 at 6:40:01 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:
    28 THOUSANDTHS of a degree reduction! And that's the BEST CASE!!

    https://twitter.com/BjornLomborg/status/1554502074687229953

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation. It is just more profligate government spending coupled with company bashing taxes.

    Bjorn Lomborg is a well known climate change denial shill

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg

    Bill calls anybody he can't dispute intelligently a shill, idiot, fool, or similar name.

    Oh, it's not just him; everyone except Flyguy has noticed cimate change denial has slick (and not-so-slick)
    hirelings doing the spin that brings in their paychecks.

    "a a" is currently echoing one of them, Wei-Hock Soon, <https://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/22/us/ties-to-corporate-cash-for-climate-change-researcher-Wei-Hock-Soon.html>
    for instance.

    That is just a pathetic WHATABOUTISM - I am specifically talking about Bill.

    Anything rather than address the issue under discussion. Flyguy is a gullible sucker for propaganda aimed at idiots like him, and resents it when this is pointed out.

    Yeah, like the IPCC.

    https://www.ipcc.ch/

    The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was created by politicians to provide them with an expert opinion on where the planet's climate was going.

    To the extent that politicians are unsophisticated about climate science, you might see them as idiots, but the panel wasn't set up to produce propaganda but rather expert advice. The climate change denial propaganda lobby doesn't like the
    advice or the consequences for fossil fuel extraction industry that funds the propaganda, and their output is aimed at people even more unsophisticated than the average politician. It has to be, since most of it is obvious nonsense, but it's good enough
    to fool people like Gnatguy and John Larkin.

    Which is it, Bill, propaganda or science?

    Bjorn Lomborg produces propaganda. He dresses it up as if it were science, but it is propaganda.

    That is where the models came from that said the Inflation Boosting Act's affect on global warming is imperceptible.

    Not exactly. Bjorn Lomborg has claimed that this can be argued. Nobody sane would take him seriously. Gnatguy isn't remotely sane.

    Hey Bill, you DIDN'T answer the question: are the IPCC climate models propaganda or science?

    The IPCC doesn't produce climate models. It exists to digest the scientific literature and reports what is says in terms that politicians can understand.

    If Bjorn Lomborg had claimed that he was using IPCC models, he would have been lying. He may have said that he was using models that the IPCC has presented as reliable, which makes them science rather than propaganda, but if Bjorn Lomborg was claiming
    to have pushed numbers into IPCC endorsed models, he has a history of getting the results he wants by using dubious methods, so his claims about what the models seem to say are very likely to be propaganda.

    --
    Bozo Bill Sloman, Sydney

    Hey Bozo, I didn't say the IPCC produced the models, but ARE the climate models used by Lomborg to make his analysis. You haven't done any analysis, so you are BLOWING SMOKE!

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to GnatTurd on Mon Aug 22 15:13:10 2022
    GnatTurd <maggots2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote in news:afdb64b7-c616-4afc- bf21-edeb833c0478n@googlegroups.com:

    PS - NOTHING in this bad act reduces inflation.

    You are an abject idiot, child. NOTHING you post here carries ANY
    credence, much less any adult maturity. Every post you make is about
    as childish as it gets.

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