• block/ignore

    From TTman@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 7 10:02:09 2022
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
    it's in tools..

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  • From Don Y@21:1/5 to TTman on Sun Aug 7 02:23:42 2022
    On 8/7/2022 2:02 AM, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - it's in tools..

    That's possible in virtually all NNTP clients.

    But, most limit the filters to just header content;
    you can't filter based on *body* content. You can
    do much more if you suck up the feed to a server and
    do the filtering "server-side" (it also lets you benefit
    from that filtering even if you use a different
    client/host)

    And, you have to be a bit more creative to deal
    with the nym-shifters -- but that's not really hard.

    [filtering based on cross-posting is a good first cut]

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  • From Dimiter_Popoff@21:1/5 to TTman on Sun Aug 7 13:04:13 2022
    On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
    it's in tools..


    There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
    a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to kraken.sankey@gmail.com on Sun Aug 7 11:20:54 2022
    On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Aug 2022 10:02:09 +0100) it happened TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in <tcnv2i$g9ad$1@dont-email.me>:

    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
    it's in tools..

    Its easy in the newsreader I wrote, NewsFleX:
    Just activated the filter again due to too much noise
    You can filter on almost anything.



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    Stupid commercial you are hereby filtered!!!
    LOL
    hehe

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 7 07:00:15 2022
    On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
    wrote:

    On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
    it's in tools..


    There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
    a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

    There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
    his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
    follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

    And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
    stranger will ask a reasonable question.

    --

    John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

    The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
    "Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

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  • From Dimiter_Popoff@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Sun Aug 7 18:08:35 2022
    On 8/7/2022 17:00, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
    wrote:

    On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - >>> it's in tools..


    There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
    a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

    There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
    his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
    follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

    And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
    stranger will ask a reasonable question.


    Exactly, this is how I see it, too. I typically monitor the group with
    the browser via google groups and use the newsreader only if I want
    to post.

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  • From Ricky@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Sun Aug 7 08:57:49 2022
    On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 10:00:26 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com>
    wrote:
    On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - >> it's in tools..


    There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
    a glance to spot a post you might want to read.
    There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
    his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
    follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

    Yes, and others are very intermittent posters providing tons of pointless opinion and drivel, the occasionally posting something worth reading.

    --

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  • From Don Y@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 7 08:59:50 2022
    On 8/7/2022 3:04 AM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
    On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - it's
    in tools..

    There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
    a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

    The problem with an unfiltered feed is that you have to keep track
    of who you want to read/ignore.

    The problem with filters is you need to manually (in so much as you
    have to select the pertinent criteria) create/maintain them.

    My approach has been to let an agent sort through the feed using
    criteria that it "notices" me using IMPLICITLY. E.g., if I've
    "learned" to not open certain types of posts -- or to regret opening
    them /ex post factum/ -- let the agent *notice* that I've opted
    not to open the post (because my client didn't send a request for
    the message BODY to the NNTP server/agent) and ignore them *for* me.

    If I ignore folks who quote 99% of a message and add (bottom post)
    a one line comment, let the agent ignore them. If I ignore posts
    who talk about Trump... or, resort to silly profanity... or...

    (these aren't trivial to do with existing filter tools)

    I don't like my phone ringing when I know it's a call that I'm NOT
    going to answer (based on some observable criteria) so why not do
    the same for USENET posts, email, etc.?

    Machines are great for remembering/enforcing behaviors/decisions!

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  • From Dimiter_Popoff@21:1/5 to Don Y on Sun Aug 7 23:59:02 2022
    On 8/7/2022 18:59, Don Y wrote:
    On 8/7/2022 3:04 AM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
    On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this
    group - it's in tools..

    There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
    a glance to spot a post you might want to read. >
    The problem with an unfiltered feed is that you have to keep track
    of who you want to read/ignore.

    The problem with filters is you need to manually (in so much as you
    have to select the pertinent criteria) create/maintain them.

    That is easier to do with this newsgroup. Try coping with my email
    input :). Lately only hundreds of spam messages per day, used to be
    thousands (spammers got tired? Some died out? Whatever...).
    I read my email using my text editor, the one I have been using
    for programming ever since I wrote its first version some time around
    1995-6. So I am very used to it, skipping from message to message is
    just one key (alt-s, ok, two keys) searching the delimiter between the messages; and since the first line is return-path: and spammers use that
    for their purposes so it takes me a fraction of a second to detect a
    spam and skip to the next.
    My approach has been to let an agent sort through the feed using
    criteria that it "notices" me using IMPLICITLY.  E.g., if I've
    "learned" to not open certain types of posts -- or to regret opening
    them /ex post factum/ -- let the agent *notice* that I've opted
    not to open the post (because my client didn't send a request for
    the message BODY to the NNTP server/agent) and ignore them *for* me.

    If I ignore folks who quote 99% of a message and add (bottom post)
    a one line comment, let the agent ignore them.  If I ignore posts
    who talk about Trump...  or, resort to silly profanity... or...

    (these aren't trivial to do with existing filter tools)

    I don't like my phone ringing when I know it's a call that I'm NOT
    going to answer (based on some observable criteria) so why not do
    the same for USENET posts, email, etc.?

    Phone spammers are not very active here, almost non-existent.
    However I do switch the phone to silent mode while asleep (and
    unplug the landline phone, a Chinese lady keeps on calling wanting
    to sell me parts, around 10-11 AM here, I sleep until much later).
    Works well, sometimes not so well - like when I forgot to leave
    the phone on and the courier could not deliver a laptop which was
    part of a spectrometry system a DoD customer was waiting for....
    (Luckily I got that the next day).

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to TTman on Sun Aug 7 15:14:39 2022
    On Sunday, 7 August 2022 at 11:02:18 UTC+2, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - it's in tools..

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  • From Don Y@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 7 15:22:40 2022
    On 8/7/2022 1:59 PM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
    On 8/7/2022 18:59, Don Y wrote:
    On 8/7/2022 3:04 AM, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
    On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - >>>> it's in tools..

    There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes >>> a glance to spot a post you might want to read. >
    The problem with an unfiltered feed is that you have to keep track
    of who you want to read/ignore.

    The problem with filters is you need to manually (in so much as you
    have to select the pertinent criteria) create/maintain them.

    That is easier to do with this newsgroup. Try coping with my email
    input :). Lately only hundreds of spam messages per day, used to be
    thousands (spammers got tired? Some died out? Whatever...).

    Yikes! I've got my email spam down to *zero*. But, I am very
    aggressive in controlling that means of contact; I don't give
    out an email address unless I *want* contact from that individual
    or organization. And, "personalize" each address so I can see
    if it's been "passed on", leaked, etc. This helps me weed out
    groups that aren't as protective of my contact info as I'd like.

    It also lets me notify folks when *they're* accounts have been hacked
    (because I know the source of the "leak").

    [I recently had a scammer masquerade as a legitimate contact
    but my email "agent" noticed discrepancies in the headers that
    I'd typically not bother checking and flagged it as bogus.
    So, I phoned the party in question to inform htem that they'd likely
    been hacked. "Yeah, I know. My ex-wife fell for it to the tune
    of $400..."]

    I read my email using my text editor, the one I have been using
    for programming ever since I wrote its first version some time around
    1995-6. So I am very used to it, skipping from message to message is
    just one key (alt-s, ok, two keys) searching the delimiter between the messages; and since the first line is return-path: and spammers use that
    for their purposes so it takes me a fraction of a second to detect a
    spam and skip to the next.

    I parse the headers (and content) and use that to drive the "selection algorithm". I don't filter things *out* but, rather, gate things *in*.
    So, a scammer can't just keep creating new From: headers to bypass
    any "blacklisting".

    My approach has been to let an agent sort through the feed using
    criteria that it "notices" me using IMPLICITLY. E.g., if I've
    "learned" to not open certain types of posts -- or to regret opening
    them /ex post factum/ -- let the agent *notice* that I've opted
    not to open the post (because my client didn't send a request for
    the message BODY to the NNTP server/agent) and ignore them *for* me.

    If I ignore folks who quote 99% of a message and add (bottom post)
    a one line comment, let the agent ignore them. If I ignore posts
    who talk about Trump... or, resort to silly profanity... or...

    (these aren't trivial to do with existing filter tools)

    I don't like my phone ringing when I know it's a call that I'm NOT
    going to answer (based on some observable criteria) so why not do
    the same for USENET posts, email, etc.?

    Phone spammers are not very active here, almost non-existent.

    When I first deployed my "telephone attendant" (agent), I watched the
    logs of how individual calls were handled (dropped, routed to /dev/null voicemail, routed to real voicemail, etc.).

    Lots of contacts from folks telling me my microsoft license was *expired*.
    Or, to renew (!) the warranty on my car (yet they don't know what make/model?). Or, for debt relief (we have *no* debt). Or, to verify my ______ account. Or...

    Also found several messages from different phone numbers with the same
    voice print (my attendant tries to identify the caller in case it doesn't recognize the number originating the call). Robots are easy to identify
    cuz they never get colds, laryngitis, etc. :>

    I've found that the most effective filter criteria is: do they use one
    of our names in their message. Otherwise, its not specific to us and
    likely spam.

    I've watched folks with cell phones and see them effectively tethered to their phones, carrying them around the house with them (WTF? is that a convenience or an obligation??!). Or, letting everything go to voice mail and then having to periodically "make an effort" to sort through their messages. Or, sorting through email transcripts of incoming messages.

    Isn't The Phone supposed to be a convenience function?!

    Going forward, I see this as a valuable tool in avoiding exploitation (scammers) from the folks who try to trick you into some action that
    isn't warranted ("Your grandson is being held on an old warrant. Please
    send us $X for her bail" -- yeah, there are all sorts of scammers
    out there!)

    However I do switch the phone to silent mode while asleep (and
    unplug the landline phone, a Chinese lady keeps on calling wanting
    to sell me parts, around 10-11 AM here, I sleep until much later).
    Works well, sometimes not so well - like when I forgot to leave
    the phone on and the courier could not deliver a laptop which was
    part of a spectrometry system a DoD customer was waiting for....
    (Luckily I got that the next day).

    When I lived alone, I quickly tired of the phone and dropped my
    business line. Folks would call when it was convenient for *them*
    which was often NOT convenient for me (as my sleep-wake cycle is
    highly variable).

    And, playing phone tag is just as bad.

    So, I coerced (forced!) folks to adopt email as their sole means
    of contact. In addition to letting each party address the communication
    at a time appropriate for their *own* needs, it has the added benefit of documenting the conversation. No more relying on what you THINK was
    agreed upon!

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  • From Clifford Heath@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Mon Aug 8 09:48:04 2022
    On 8/8/22 00:00, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
    wrote:

    On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - >>> it's in tools..


    There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
    a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

    There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
    his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
    follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

    And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
    stranger will ask a reasonable question.

    I have two filters: folk like your first group, who never say anything worthwhile or generate worthwhile followup - I hide those subthreads.

    The other group is folk whose posts are only worth reading if someone
    else responds. Those get marked as "already read" but I can still see
    them if they produce interesting followup.

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 7 17:56:19 2022
    On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 09:48:04 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_spam@please.net>
    wrote:

    On 8/8/22 00:00, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
    wrote:

    On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - >>>> it's in tools..


    There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes >>> a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

    There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
    his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
    follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

    And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
    stranger will ask a reasonable question.

    I have two filters: folk like your first group, who never say anything >worthwhile or generate worthwhile followup - I hide those subthreads.

    The other group is folk whose posts are only worth reading if someone
    else responds. Those get marked as "already read" but I can still see
    them if they produce interesting followup.

    But if everyone did that, nobody would ever respond.

    --

    John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

    The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
    "Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

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  • From amdx@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Sun Aug 7 20:06:12 2022
    On 8/7/2022 6:20 AM, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Aug 2022 10:02:09 +0100) it happened TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in <tcnv2i$g9ad$1@dont-email.me>:

    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
    it's in tools..
    Its easy in the newsreader I wrote, NewsFleX:
    Just activated the filter again due to too much noise
    You can filter on almost anything.



    --
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    https://www.avast.com/antivirus
    Stupid commercial you are hereby filtered!!!
    LOL
    hehe
    Google how to remove the Avast add. I had mine removed years ago when
    Jeff Leibermann
    chastised me. Somehow it came back, probably an update. I hope I spelled
    his name right,
    I got chastised for misspelling his name too.
                                       Mikek

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  • From Clifford Heath@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Mon Aug 8 12:41:57 2022
    On 8/8/22 10:56, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 09:48:04 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_spam@please.net>
    wrote:

    On 8/8/22 00:00, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
    wrote:

    On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - >>>>> it's in tools..


    There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes >>>> a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

    There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
    his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
    follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

    And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
    stranger will ask a reasonable question.

    I have two filters: folk like your first group, who never say anything
    worthwhile or generate worthwhile followup - I hide those subthreads.

    The other group is folk whose posts are only worth reading if someone
    else responds. Those get marked as "already read" but I can still see
    them if they produce interesting followup.

    But if everyone did that, nobody would ever respond.

    Not everyone finds the same people boring.
    Sometimes even Sloman says something worthwhile.
    I see those because someone else replies.

    I also kill-thread any OP that starts out political.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Clifford Heath on Mon Aug 8 01:57:05 2022
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 12:42:03 PM UTC+10, Clifford Heath wrote:
    On 8/8/22 10:56, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 09:48:04 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_...@please.net> wrote:

    On 8/8/22 00:00, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com>
    wrote:

    On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
    it's in tools..


    There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes >>>> a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

    There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
    his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
    follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

    And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
    stranger will ask a reasonable question.

    I have two filters: folk like your first group, who never say anything
    worthwhile or generate worthwhile followup - I hide those subthreads.

    The other group is folk whose posts are only worth reading if someone
    else responds. Those get marked as "already read" but I can still see
    them if they produce interesting followup.

    But if everyone did that, nobody would ever respond.
    Not everyone finds the same people boring.
    Sometimes even Sloman says something worthwhile.

    Sometimes I dumb my output down enough that even Clifford Heath can follow it.

    I'll have to push up the level.

    I see those because someone else replies.

    I also kill-thread any OP that starts out political.

    Sounds wise. Of course there are various sorts of political. Gnatguy starts off with the proposition that Trump can do no wrong, and goes downhill from there.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 8 07:08:38 2022
    On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 12:41:57 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_spam@please.net>
    wrote:

    On 8/8/22 10:56, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 09:48:04 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_spam@please.net>
    wrote:

    On 8/8/22 00:00, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <dp@tgi-sci.com>
    wrote:

    On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - >>>>>> it's in tools..


    There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes >>>>> a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

    There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that
    his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
    follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

    And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
    stranger will ask a reasonable question.

    I have two filters: folk like your first group, who never say anything
    worthwhile or generate worthwhile followup - I hide those subthreads.

    The other group is folk whose posts are only worth reading if someone
    else responds. Those get marked as "already read" but I can still see
    them if they produce interesting followup.

    But if everyone did that, nobody would ever respond.

    Not everyone finds the same people boring.
    Sometimes even Sloman says something worthwhile.

    Mindless insults are worthwhile?

    I see those because someone else replies.

    But Sloman's posts are usually the start of, or embedded in, stupid
    flame wars.


    I also kill-thread any OP that starts out political.

    Pity that the creeps have driven off people who could talk serious
    electronics.

    --

    John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

    The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
    "Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Mon Aug 8 13:57:24 2022
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 7:08:51 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 12:41:57 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_...@please.net>
    wrote:

    Not everyone finds the same people boring.
    Sometimes even Sloman says something worthwhile.
    Mindless insults are worthwhile?
    I see those because someone else replies.
    But Sloman's posts are usually the start of, or embedded in, stupid
    flame wars.

    Sadly, I perceive a couple of posters trying to start a stupid flame war.

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 8 14:53:53 2022
    On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 13:57:24 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 7:08:51 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 12:41:57 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_...@please.net>
    wrote:

    Not everyone finds the same people boring.
    Sometimes even Sloman says something worthwhile.
    Mindless insults are worthwhile?
    I see those because someone else replies.
    But Sloman's posts are usually the start of, or embedded in, stupid
    flame wars.

    Sadly, I perceive a couple of posters trying to start a stupid flame war.

    No. Clifford and I are discussing, not arguing and insulting one
    another. We mostly agree.

    I rarely read and never respond to the ritual flamers. They don't know
    much about electronic design anyhow.

    --

    John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

    The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
    "Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

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  • From boB@21:1/5 to pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com on Mon Aug 8 20:37:29 2022
    On Sun, 07 Aug 2022 11:20:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Aug 2022 10:02:09 +0100) it happened TTman ><kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in <tcnv2i$g9ad$1@dont-email.me>:

    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - >>it's in tools..

    Its easy in the newsreader I wrote, NewsFleX:
    Just activated the filter again due to too much noise
    You can filter on almost anything.



    I can add a delete filter for posts from someone but I can't seem to
    filter responses to those posts which may very well have his responses
    in them and, of course, the reset of the stupid topic I wanted to
    filter anyway.

    Don't want to have to create a filter for every subject I don't care
    for. Using Agent

    boB




    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >>https://www.avast.com/antivirus

    Stupid commercial you are hereby filtered!!!
    LOL
    hehe

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Tue Aug 9 03:36:12 2022
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 7:54:07 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 13:57:24 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 7:08:51 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 12:41:57 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_...@please.net>
    wrote:

    Not everyone finds the same people boring.
    Sometimes even Sloman says something worthwhile.
    Mindless insults are worthwhile?
    I see those because someone else replies.
    But Sloman's posts are usually the start of, or embedded in, stupid
    flame wars.

    Sadly, I perceive a couple of posters trying to start a stupid flame war.

    No. Clifford and I are discussing, not arguing and insulting one another. We mostly agree.

    Clifford Heath did post a fairly inflammatory line.

    "Sometimes even Sloman says something worthwhile. "

    And John Larkin followed it up with something equally inflammatory and demonstrably false.

    "Mindless insults are worthwhile?"

    I don't have to post mindless insults - I can always finding something which it is perfectly rational to be rude about, admittedly often about subjects that John Larkin doesn't want to think about, perhaps because he can't think all that well.

    I rarely read and never respond to the ritual flamers. They don't know much about electronic design anyhow.

    Nor does John Larkin. He's great at evolving new and progressively more different circuits but design seems to be beyond him.

    --
    Bill Sloman, sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Tue Aug 9 03:25:56 2022
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 12:08:51 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 12:41:57 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_...@please.net>
    wrote:

    On 8/8/22 10:56, John Larkin wrote:
    On Mon, 8 Aug 2022 09:48:04 +1000, Clifford Heath <no_...@please.net>
    wrote:

    On 8/8/22 00:00, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sun, 7 Aug 2022 13:04:13 +0300, Dimiter_Popoff <d...@tgi-sci.com> >>>> wrote:

    On 8/7/2022 12:02, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
    it's in tools..


    There is not such a huge flood of posts to need filtering, it just takes
    a glance to spot a post you might want to read.

    There a few posters here that, when you see their name, you know that >>>> his post and all follow-ups are garbage. Usually many, many
    follow-ups. The pattern is distinct.

    And a very few people are always worth reading. Occasionally a
    stranger will ask a reasonable question.

    I have two filters: folk like your first group, who never say anything >>> worthwhile or generate worthwhile followup - I hide those subthreads.

    The other group is folk whose posts are only worth reading if someone
    else responds. Those get marked as "already read" but I can still see
    them if they produce interesting followup.

    But if everyone did that, nobody would ever respond.

    Not everyone finds the same people boring.
    Sometimes even Sloman says something worthwhile.

    Mindless insults are worthwhile?

    John Larkin sees any suggestion that he might not have got something right as a "mindless insult".
    Since he re-posts a lot of climate change denial propaganda, which is a remarkably mindless activity, this is a trifle ironic.

    I see those because someone else replies.

    But Sloman's posts are usually the start of, or embedded in, stupid flame wars.

    I don't recall starting any stupid flame wars. I don't see anything wrong in flaming people who try to flame me, as John Larkin is trying to do here.

    I also kill-thread any OP that starts out political.

    Pity that the creeps have driven off people who could talk serious electronics.

    Name an example. Not that John Larkin's ideas about what might constitutes "serious electronics" are all that reliable.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bertrand Sindri@21:1/5 to boB on Wed Aug 10 13:22:20 2022
    boB <boB@k7iq.com> wrote:
    On Sun, 07 Aug 2022 11:20:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Aug 2022 10:02:09 +0100) it happened TTman >><kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in <tcnv2i$g9ad$1@dont-email.me>:

    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group - >>>it's in tools..

    Its easy in the newsreader I wrote, NewsFleX:
    Just activated the filter again due to too much noise
    You can filter on almost anything.



    I can add a delete filter for posts from someone but I can't seem to
    filter responses to those posts which may very well have his responses
    in them and, of course, the reset of the stupid topic I wanted to
    filter anyway.

    Don't want to have to create a filter for every subject I don't care
    for. Using Agent

    Does it support killfiling based upon the Message-ID: and References:
    header?

    If yes, you add a rule killfiling on the message id of the post
    starting the subthread you want to remove, and any article with that
    message ID in the References: header gets filtered away.

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  • From Martin Rid@21:1/5 to boB on Thu Aug 11 13:08:26 2022
    boB <boB@K7IQ.com> Wrote in message:r
    On Sun, 07 Aug 2022 11:20:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:>On a sunny day (Sun, 7 Aug 2022 10:02:09 +0100) it happened TTman><kraken.sankey@gmail.com> wrote in <tcnv2i$g9ad$1@dont-email.me>:>>>Just discovered that I can in fact
    block/ignore a poster in this group - >>it's in tools..>>Its easy in the newsreader I wrote, NewsFleX:>Just activated the filter again due to too much noise>You can filter on almost anything.>>I can add a delete filter for posts from someone but I can't
    seem tofilter responses to those posts which may very well have his responsesin them and, of course, the reset of the stupid topic I wanted tofilter anyway.Don't want to have to create a filter for every subject I don't carefor. Using AgentboB>>>-- >>
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.>>https://www.avast.com/antivirus>>Stupid commercial you are hereby filtered!!!>LOL>hehe

    The android app Newsgroups, filters the entire thread. I didn't
    expect that , but it does cut down on the noise.
    This is the free version.

    Cheers
    --


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  • From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to TTman on Thu Aug 11 13:38:38 2022
    On Sunday, August 7, 2022 at 5:02:18 AM UTC-4, TTman wrote:
    Just discovered that I can in fact block/ignore a poster in this group -
    it's in tools..

    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

    Dumber than a lump of coal...

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