So, vaccination wasn't supposed to be harmful (well, maybe for a small, unlucky few, say tens of thousands). Think again (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X):cellular defenses and promote a longer biological half-life and high production of spike protein. However, the immune response to the vaccine is very different from that to a SARS-CoV-2 infection. In this paper, we present evidence that vaccination
The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were brought to market in response to the public health crises of Covid-19. The utilization of mRNA vaccines in the context of infectious disease has no precedent. The many alterations in the vaccine mRNA hide the mRNA from
On 22/07/2022 17:17, Flyguy wrote:from cellular defenses and promote a longer biological half-life and high production of spike protein. However, the immune response to the vaccine is very different from that to a SARS-CoV-2 infection. In this paper, we present evidence that vaccination
So, vaccination wasn't supposed to be harmful (well, maybe for a small, unlucky few, say tens of thousands). Think again (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X):
The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were brought to market in response to the public health crises of Covid-19. The utilization of mRNA vaccines in the context of infectious disease has no precedent. The many alterations in the vaccine mRNA hide the mRNA
It looks like random word salad from some paranoid delusional nutters.
I can see exactly why it appeals to you.
Empirical evidence so far in the UK and elsewhere is that where it has
been accepted vaccination has pretty much decreased fatalities by more
than an order of magnitude but has done little or nothing to prevent
onward transmission. UK is now 1:17 infected with Covid (and rising)
BA.5 now represents 80% of all new cases. The rate of increase appears
to be slowing (in previous years it all but stopped in mid summer).
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
I haven't been to a live performance since unlocking yet where at least
one of the named soloists is indisposed due to a Covid infection.
Even in Japan where they are still ultra cautious and wear masks indoors
in major venues the July sumo basho in Nagoya is in disarray because so
many of the top wrestlers and judges have Covid that they had to screen
not just fights from the division below but the one below that.
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20220721/p2a/00m/0sp/021000c
Problem with contact sports in a pandemic is well contact.
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Regards,
Martin Brown
On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 21:31:32 UTC+2, Martin Brown wrote:
On 22/07/2022 17:17, Flyguy wrote:
Found 29,635 cases where Vaccine is COVID19 and Patient Died
On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 21:31:32 UTC+2, Martin Brown wrote:
On 22/07/2022 17:17, Flyguy wrote:
So, vaccination wasn't supposed to be harmful (well, maybe for a small, unlucky few, say tens of thousands). Think again...
Empirical evidence so far in the UK and elsewhere is that where it has
been accepted vaccination has pretty much decreased fatalities by more
than an order of magnitude but has done little or nothing to prevent
onward transmission. UK is now 1:17 infected with Covid (and rising)
BA.5 now represents 80% of all new cases. The rate of increase appears
to be slowing (in previous years it all but stopped in mid summer).
From the 7/15/2022 release of VAERS data:
Found 29,635 cases where Vaccine is COVID19 and Patient Died
On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 1:04:47 PM UTC-7, a a wrote:
On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 21:31:32 UTC+2, Martin Brown wrote:
On 22/07/2022 17:17, Flyguy wrote:
So, vaccination wasn't supposed to be harmful (well, maybe for a small, unlucky few, say tens of thousands). Think again...
Empirical evidence so far in the UK and elsewhere is that where it has
been accepted vaccination has pretty much decreased fatalities by more
than an order of magnitude but has done little or nothing to prevent
onward transmission. UK is now 1:17 infected with Covid (and rising)
BA.5 now represents 80% of all new cases. The rate of increase appears
to be slowing (in previous years it all but stopped in mid summer).
From the 7/15/2022 release of VAERS data:
Found 29,635 cases where Vaccine is COVID19 and Patient Died
So what? Vaccine isn't intended to confer immortality, just improved
immune response to one pathogen. A variety of different vaccines
have been tested, they all, more or less, work as advertised.
So, vaccination wasn't supposed to be harmful (well, maybe for a
small, unlucky few, say tens of thousands). Think again
On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 6:04:47 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:Bill is mega idiot spammer from Australia
On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 21:31:32 UTC+2, Martin Brown wrote:<snipped Flyguy being as idiotic as ever and people pointing it out>
On 22/07/2022 17:17, Flyguy wrote:
Found 29,635 cases where Vaccine is COVID19 and Patient DiedBill Sloman, Sydney
On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
So, vaccination wasn't supposed to be harmful (well, maybe for a
small, unlucky few, say tens of thousands). Think again.
Given that the disease has killed more than a million it doesn't seem as bad as
the alternative, even if it only gives 10% immunity.
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
So, vaccination wasn't supposed to be harmful (well, maybe for a
small, unlucky few, say tens of thousands). Think again.
Flyguy can't think.
Given that the disease has killed more than a million it doesn't
seem as bad as the alternative, even if it only gives 10%
immunity.
Vaccination against Covid-19 doesn't prevent you from getting
infected with Covid-19 - though it makes it considerably less likely
and shortens the course of the infection if it does happen. It
doesn't absolutely prevent a fatal infection (if your immune system
wasn't up to much to start with) but it makes it very much less
likely. Getting vaccinated is the right thing to do to preserver your
own health and protect the health of other people.
Only somebody as terminally stupid as Flyguy could fail to get the
message or endorse a stinking heap of anxiety inducing nonsense
designed to make people less enthusiastic about getting vaccinated.
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
Don't waste time with trolls. You can't tell them anything. All you do is waste everyone's time reading your post.
The sooner everyone PLONKs trolls, the quieter and more useful the newsgroup will become.
--don't be silly Mike,
MRM
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
Don't waste time with trolls. You can't tell them anything. All you do is waste everyone's time reading your post.
The sooner everyone PLONKs trolls, the quieter and more useful the newsgroup will become.
--
MRM
On Monday, 25 July 2022 at 17:26:57 UTC+2, Mike Monett wrote:
Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
Don't waste time with trolls. You can't tell them anything. All you do is waste everyone's time reading your post.
The sooner everyone PLONKs trolls, the quieter and more useful the newsgroup
will become.
--don't be silly Mike,
MRM
people are aware, covid19 vaccines don't work
I am the only human from Europe, who got trained in Wuhan in early 2020 on covid19 diagnosis, treatment
and this China only, who cured every covid19 patient within 3 months, early 2020
There is no success story coming from US, Europe, Taiwan, Australia, Canada.
Albert Bourla, Pfizer Chairman experimented with covid19 vaccines in Israel and failed, since
the 5th dose got rejected by patients, since a single dose has had protection period limited to 3 months only.
There have been 1,000 coronaviruses (Sauci) living with humans for thousands of years
and autogenic vaccine is the only single-dose vaccine which worked for military personnel.
Robert Kennedy, jr is a good man, who supported the development of VAERS interface
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?EVENTS=on&PAGENO=2946&PERPAGE=10&ESORT=&REVERSESORT=&VAX=(COVID19)&DIED=Yes
Found 29,635 cases where Vaccine is COVID19 and Patient Died
Government Disclaimer on use of this data
Case Details
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VAERS ID: 2353779 (history)
Form: Version 2.0
Age:
Sex: Female
Location: Foreign
Vaccinated: 2021-11-25
Onset: 2022-02-01
Days after vaccination: 68
Submitted: 0000-00-00
Entered: 2022-07-02
Vaccination / Manufacturer Lot / Dose Site / Route
COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH SCVT5 / 3 - / -
Administered by: Other Purchased by: ?
Symptoms: Atrioventricular block complete
SMQs:, Conduction defects (narrow), Hypokalaemia (broad), Noninfectious myocarditis/pericarditis (broad)
Life Threatening? No
Birth Defect? No
Died? Yes
Date died: 2022-06-11
already 30,000 patients died in US alone, as covid19 vaccination NOP
On 7/22/22 09:17, Flyguy wrote:from cellular defenses and promote a longer biological half-life and high production of spike protein. However, the immune response to the vaccine is very different from that to a SARS-CoV-2 infection. In this paper, we present evidence that vaccination
So, vaccination wasn't supposed to be harmful (well, maybe for a small, unlucky few, say tens of thousands). Think again (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S027869152200206X):
The mRNA SARS-CoV-2 vaccines were brought to market in response to the public health crises of Covid-19. The utilization of mRNA vaccines in the context of infectious disease has no precedent. The many alterations in the vaccine mRNA hide the mRNA
Not for me, thank you.
Intracellular Reverse Transcription of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 mRNA
Vaccine BNT162b2 In Vitro in Human Liver Cell Line https://www.riotimesonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Pfizer-RNA-into-DNA.pdf
The findings in the paper interpreted for the lay in this article, and
this video, and what it means for those who have taken this vaccine. https://thewashingtonstandard.com/bombshell-swedish-study-proves-mrna-covid-injections-alter-dna/
"We also identify potential profound disturbances in regulatory control
of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance. These disturbances
potentially have a causal link to neurodegenerative disease,
myocarditis, immune thrombocytopenia, Bell's palsy, liver disease,
impaired adaptive immunity, impaired DNA damage response and tumorigenesis" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35436552/
In this video Tucker Carlson discusses the implications of the findings presented in that paper:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/iGwZwS3V06QY/
World doctors dire warning: Stay away from the vaccinated people -
Vaccine shedding to others
https://www.bitchute.com/video/j2gjJgKBgAqf/
Pfizer Bombshell: ‘Stay Away from the Vaccinated’ according to its own report: https://lichtnahrung2015.wordpress.com/2022/04/07/pfizer-bombshell-stay-away-from-the-vaccinated/
The vaccine victims are not just the aged: https://www.bitchute.com/video/GY6ie4Xhh4Fj/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/J1AELBCYv7i3/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/0pZDqnxdRp8H/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/oRpW8d322izR/ https://rumble.com/vrg585-25-minute-video-of-more-innocent-people-who-dropped-dead-after-taking-the-v.html
https://www.bitchute.com/video/45JGglyyd0e1/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/9WWxDn6JM8JM/ https://www.bitchute.com/video/c1rO54zvA4Ba/ https://rairfoundation.com/sudden-and-unexpected-at-least-11-vacationers-drop-dead-on-italian-beaches-in-24-hours/
You will not find any of the above on YouTube, or CNN, for obvious reasons.
I understand the above messages will be cognitively dissonant with many readers, especially among those who have a blind faith in government,
and so they will want to attack the messenger. It is very human to do
so. But the horrific truth is this jab is not a vaccine. The majority of
us have been hypnotically duped in a mass formation psychosis spell.
On the first jab the lucky ones will be in the 80% who got a placebo.
The Deep State could not have everyone dying on the first jab. That
would be too obvious even for the those in die hard denial. It is like Russian Roulette. With the every booster the odds having gotten a kill
shot rises. The life expectancy of any that did get a kill shot is any
time in the next 2 to 5 years. It can take as long as that because, of course, it would also be too obvious if all who did get the kill shot
died right away. This "vaccine" is the greatest crime in history. It is
not just the crime of the century, or the millennia. It is the crime of
the ages. So many are "vaccinated" now that the Deep State creators of
what were the Georgia Guidestones are going to get the population
control they wanted.
In case anything happens to me for posting this please be advised that I
am in good health, mentally stable, and am absent any thoughts of suicide.
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On 25/07/2022 14:27, Anthony William Sloman wrote:immune system wasn't up to much to start with) but it makes it very much less likely. Getting vaccinated is the right thing to do to preserver your own health and protect the health of other people.
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
So, vaccination wasn't supposed to be harmful (well, maybe for a
small, unlucky few, say tens of thousands). Think again.
Flyguy can't think.
Given that the disease has killed more than a million it doesn't
seem as bad as the alternative, even if it only gives 10%
immunity.
It seems to be worth a roughly one order of magnitude reduction in the
risk of suffering serious harm from Covid - which isn't bad at all. It possibly decrease your chance of catching it too which also helps.
Vaccination against Covid-19 doesn't prevent you from getting infected with Covid-19 - though it makes it considerably less likely and shortens the course of the infection if it does happen. It doesn't absolutely prevent a fatal infection (if your
You keep on saying that but the empirical evidence in the UK says that
it doesn't make a blind bit of difference to the rate of onward
transmission - it only affects the severity and outcome in the infected individual. Deaths thankfully remain well below previous waves.
Testing is screwed now as there is no incentive to test or regular
testing in place for the general public any more.
Mostly it prevents you from coming to serious harm when rather than if
you get infected. Despite what has been said in the past there is still
no evidence that vaccination prevents onward infection and indeed it now looks possible that by masking most of the symptoms it makes
asymptomatic transmission within the population more likely.
It is basically endemic at 1:17 in the UK now (worse in Scotland). Any
room with more than a dozen people in it and the odds are 50:50 that at least one of them will have Covid.
BA.5 is in the ascendant representing >80% of new cases.
Only somebody as terminally stupid as Flyguy could fail to get the
message or endorse a stinking heap of anxiety inducing nonsense
designed to make people less enthusiastic about getting vaccinated.
It seems here the young and the rich are more inclined to not get vaccinated. Facebook generation are least likely to be vaccinated.
Robert Kennedy, jr is a good man, who supported the development of VAERS interface
https://www.medalerts.org/vaersdb/findfield.php?EVENTS=on&PAGENO=2946&PERPAGE=10&ESORT=&REVERSESORT=&VAX=(COVID19)&DIED=Yes
Found 29,635 cases where Vaccine is COVID19 and Patient Died
Government Disclaimer on use of this data
Case Details
This is page 2946 out of 2,964
Result pages: prev 2937 2938 2939 2940 2941 2942 2943 2944 2945 2946 2947 2948 2949 2950 2951 2952 2953 2954 2955 next
VAERS ID: 2353779 (history)
Form: Version 2.0
Age:
Sex: Female
Location: Foreign
Vaccinated: 2021-11-25
Onset: 2022-02-01
Days after vaccination: 68
Submitted: 0000-00-00
Entered: 2022-07-02
Vaccination / Manufacturer Lot / Dose Site / Route
COVID19: COVID19 (COVID19 (PFIZER-BIONTECH)) / PFIZER/BIONTECH SCVT5 / 3 - / -
Administered by: Other Purchased by: ?
Symptoms: Atrioventricular block complete
SMQs:, Conduction defects (narrow), Hypokalaemia (broad), Noninfectious myocarditis/pericarditis (broad)
Life Threatening? No
Birth Defect? No
Died? Yes
Date died: 2022-06-11
already 30,000 patients died in US alone, as covid19 vaccination NOP
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote:immune system wasn't up to much to start with) but it makes it very much less likely. Getting vaccinated is the right thing to do to preserver your own health and protect the health of other people.
On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:Flyguy can't think.
So, vaccination wasn't supposed to be harmful (well, maybe for a
small, unlucky few, say tens of thousands). Think again.
Given that the disease has killed more than a million it doesn't seem as bad asVaccination against Covid-19 doesn't prevent you from getting infected with Covid-19 - though it makes it considerably less likely and shortens the course of the infection if it does happen. It doesn't absolutely prevent a fatal infection (if your
the alternative, even if it only gives 10% immunity.
Only somebody as terminally stupid as Flyguy could fail to get the message or endorse a stinking heap of anxiety inducing nonsense designed to make people less enthusiastic about getting vaccinated.
On 7/25/2022 8:27 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:immune system wasn't up to much to start with) but it makes it very much less likely. Getting vaccinated is the right thing to do to preserver your own health and protect the health of other people.
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:Flyguy can't think.
So, vaccination wasn't supposed to be harmful (well, maybe for a
small, unlucky few, say tens of thousands). Think again.
Given that the disease has killed more than a million it doesn't seem as bad asVaccination against Covid-19 doesn't prevent you from getting infected with Covid-19 - though it makes it considerably less likely and shortens the course of the infection if it does happen. It doesn't absolutely prevent a fatal infection (if your
the alternative, even if it only gives 10% immunity.
Only somebody as terminally stupid as Flyguy could fail to get the message or endorse a stinking heap of anxiety inducing nonsense designed to make people less enthusiastic about getting vaccinated.
My son came home from work not feeling well, a little sore throat. Took
a covid test, positive, took 4 days off work, only had mild symptoms,
never lost energy. When he went work he found several people were out
with covid.
He came home sick on 7-13, said he felt a little down a day before,
tested negative on 7-22, may have been sooner, but his last positive
test was 7-17 and we did no more tests until 7-22. He had the J&J
vaccine as did my wife, I had 2 Moderna shots and 1 booster. We took no precautions other than don't touch what he did. Mom and dad are still
fine 2 weeks after first on set. Looks like we dodged it for now, we're
both in our 60s.
On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 17:31:55 UTC+2, amdx wrote:
On 7/25/2022 8:27 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
PCR test generates false-positive results in 90% of cases
so is not fit for any commercial use, as declared many times by its inventor, Nobel Prize winner,
who died in 2019
PCR test generates false-positive results in 90% of cases
On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 6:04:47 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:problem with the Covid-19 vaccine, as has been pointed out here before.
On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 21:31:32 UTC+2, Martin Brown wrote:<snipped Flyguy being as idiotic as ever and people pointing it out>
On 22/07/2022 17:17, Flyguy wrote:
Found 29,635 cases where Vaccine is COVID19 and Patient DiedYou aren't the first idiot to have noticed this. People get vaccinated against Covid-19 at quite advanced ages and some of them die - mostly of something completely different - within the notification period. It's isn't any kind of indication of any
You are a complete idiot, so you won't learn from this experience, any more than our other resident idiots did earlier.
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On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 8:10:01 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:problem with the Covid-19 vaccine, as has been pointed out here before.
On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 6:04:47 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:
On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 21:31:32 UTC+2, Martin Brown wrote:
On 22/07/2022 17:17, Flyguy wrote:
<snipped Flyguy being as idiotic as ever and people pointing it out>
Found 29,635 cases where Vaccine is COVID19 and Patient Died
You aren't the first idiot to have noticed this. People get vaccinated against Covid-19 at quite advanced ages and some of them die - mostly of something completely different - within the notification period. It's isn't any kind of indication of any
You are a complete idiot, so you won't learn from this experience, any more than our other resident idiots did earlier.
Sloman remains the ONLY person on the planet who still thinks that the Wuhan virus came from BATS! Talk about being TERMINALLY STUPID!!
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 4:45:47 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 17:31:55 UTC+2, amdx wrote:
On 7/25/2022 8:27 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
PCR test generates false-positive results in 90% of cases
It doesn't. The polymerase chain reaction test just produces multiple copes of any RNA sequence it gets exposed to. It doesn't generate novel sequences.
The results can be misunderstood by inexpert users, and a a won't pay attention to anybody who isn't at least a silly as he is.
On 27/07/2022 02:39, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 4:45:47 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 17:31:55 UTC+2, amdx wrote:
On 7/25/2022 8:27 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
PCR test generates false-positive results in 90% of cases
It doesn't. The polymerase chain reaction test just produces multiple copes of any RNA sequence it gets exposed to. It doesn't generate novel sequences.
PCR test generates about 20% of false negatives though - variously attributed to effects of inadequate sample taking and contamination of samples by home users (samples taken by medic do slightly better).
PCR test is inclined to pick up fragments of smashed up Covid DNA in
people who have already recovered from Covid which means that as an
assay of how many people currently have Covid it reads high by an
unknown factor but unlikely to be more than a factor of two.
On 27/07/2022 02:39, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 4:45:47 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 17:31:55 UTC+2, amdx wrote:
On 7/25/2022 8:27 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
PCR test generates false-positive results in 90% of cases
It doesn't. The polymerase chain reaction test just produces multiple copes of any RNA sequence it gets exposed to. It doesn't generate novel sequences.PCR test generates about 20% of false negatives though - variously attributed to effects of inadequate sample taking and contamination of samples by home users (samples taken by medic do slightly better).
PCR test is inclined to pick up fragments of smashed up Covid DNA in
people who have already recovered from Covid which means that as an
assay of how many people currently have Covid it reads high by an
unknown factor but unlikely to be more than a factor of two.
The stats were derived from the Liverpool mass testing programme back
when they were trying to calibrate the new quick LF home tests for
efficacy when compared to the gold standard PCR test. LF did better than
the initial evidence implied because PCR was picking up people still shedding DNA fragments but were well past the infective stage. The difficulty being that with 20-30% showing no symptoms at all you are entirely reliant on the tests to know who should be isolating.
Correspondingly the PCR test only really detects people who are shedding enormous amounts of virus and are an immediate danger to others. It's
false positive rate is about 0.1% which is a nuisance when applied for
mass screening. PCR testing was used as definitive in such edge cases
back when the pandemic was running wild in the UK (but then you have the problem of about 20% of those LF positives and with all the symptoms
really being Covid positive but testing negative).
People I know who have had Covid were still testing positive for Covid
on LF more than a week after first showing symptoms so it is by no means clear when infectivity ceases from a specific infected individual.
Testing negative two days running is generally accepted as an all clear.
The results can be misunderstood by inexpert users, and a a won't pay attention to anybody who isn't at least a silly as he is.Just killfile the stupid "a a" troll and be done with it.
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Regards,
Martin Brown
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 6:42:24 PM UTC+10, Martin Brown wrote:test is doing exactly what it was intended to do - but if you don't understand what the test is intended to do, and how it works, you may miss this.
On 27/07/2022 02:39, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 4:45:47 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 17:31:55 UTC+2, amdx wrote:
On 7/25/2022 8:27 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote: >>>>> On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
PCR test generates false-positive results in 90% of cases
It doesn't. The polymerase chain reaction test just produces multiple copes of any RNA sequence it gets exposed to. It doesn't generate novel sequences.
PCR test generates about 20% of false negatives though - variously attributed to effects of inadequate sample taking and contamination of samples by home users (samples taken by medic do slightly better).
PCR test is inclined to pick up fragments of smashed up Covid DNA in people who have already recovered from Covid which means that as anThere isn't any DNA in Covid-19. It is an RNA virus. The PCR test goes through a DNA stage
assay of how many people currently have Covid it reads high by an
unknown factor but unlikely to be more than a factor of two.
https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/fact-sheets/Understanding-COVID-19-PCR-Testing
but it is aimed picking up relatively short DNA sequences that would be present in the DNA produced after exposure to Covid-19 RNA. Fragments of smashed up Covid-19 RNA will produce some of these short DNA sequences. It's not a "false positive" - the
<snip>
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Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 8:00:06 AM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:test is doing exactly what it was intended to do - but if you don't understand what the test is intended to do, and how it works, you may miss this.
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 6:42:24 PM UTC+10, Martin Brown wrote:
On 27/07/2022 02:39, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 4:45:47 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 17:31:55 UTC+2, amdx wrote:
On 7/25/2022 8:27 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote: >>>>> On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
PCR test generates false-positive results in 90% of cases
It doesn't. The polymerase chain reaction test just produces multiple copes of any RNA sequence it gets exposed to. It doesn't generate novel sequences.
PCR test generates about 20% of false negatives though - variously attributed to effects of inadequate sample taking and contamination of samples by home users (samples taken by medic do slightly better).
PCR test is inclined to pick up fragments of smashed up Covid DNA in people who have already recovered from Covid which means that as an assay of how many people currently have Covid it reads high by an unknown factor but unlikely to be more than a factor of two.There isn't any DNA in Covid-19. It is an RNA virus. The PCR test goes through a DNA stage
https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/fact-sheets/Understanding-COVID-19-PCR-Testing
but it is aimed picking up relatively short DNA sequences that would be present in the DNA produced after exposure to Covid-19 RNA. Fragments of smashed up Covid-19 RNA will produce some of these short DNA sequences. It's not a "false positive" - the
PCR does not work with RNA fundamentally because RNA is a single stranded polymer. PCR is based upon the principle of heating the DNA double strand to the point of breaking the amino acid bonds of the so-called double helix strand right down the middleof the two halves yielding two single strands. This behavior is a discovery, not an invention of mankind, and a fortuitous discovery at that. The sample is then cooled while immersed in medium of amino acids and polymerase enzyme (the P in PCR) that will
https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/technical-documents/technical-article/genomics/pcr/polymerase-chain-reactionThe resulting DNA is termed complementary DNA or cDNA. The test sample is almost at the point of being suitable for PCR amplification. Before this can happen the sample must be purified so that the only DNA present is that of the virus under study. The
Since PCR works only for double stranded entities like DNA, they have to convert the test sample RNA into DNA with high fidelity. The reverse transcriptase enzyme is used for this, hence the name RT for reverse transcriptase, does not mean real time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4C5p8m-f14
On Thursday, 28 July 2022 at 20:53:13 UTC+2, Fred Bloggs wrote:the test is doing exactly what it was intended to do - but if you don't understand what the test is intended to do, and how it works, you may miss this.
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 8:00:06 AM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 6:42:24 PM UTC+10, Martin Brown wrote:
On 27/07/2022 02:39, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 4:45:47 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 17:31:55 UTC+2, amdx wrote:
On 7/25/2022 8:27 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote: >>>>> On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
PCR test generates false-positive results in 90% of cases
It doesn't. The polymerase chain reaction test just produces multiple copes of any RNA sequence it gets exposed to. It doesn't generate novel sequences.
PCR test generates about 20% of false negatives though - variously attributed to effects of inadequate sample taking and contamination of samples by home users (samples taken by medic do slightly better).
PCR test is inclined to pick up fragments of smashed up Covid DNA in people who have already recovered from Covid which means that as an assay of how many people currently have Covid it reads high by an unknown factor but unlikely to be more than a factor of two.There isn't any DNA in Covid-19. It is an RNA virus. The PCR test goes through a DNA stage
https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/fact-sheets/Understanding-COVID-19-PCR-Testing
but it is aimed picking up relatively short DNA sequences that would be present in the DNA produced after exposure to Covid-19 RNA. Fragments of smashed up Covid-19 RNA will produce some of these short DNA sequences. It's not a "false positive" -
middle of the two halves yielding two single strands. This behavior is a discovery, not an invention of mankind, and a fortuitous discovery at that. The sample is then cooled while immersed in medium of amino acids and polymerase enzyme (the P in PCR)PCR does not work with RNA fundamentally because RNA is a single stranded polymer. PCR is based upon the principle of heating the DNA double strand to the point of breaking the amino acid bonds of the so-called double helix strand right down the
The resulting DNA is termed complementary DNA or cDNA. The test sample is almost at the point of being suitable for PCR amplification. Before this can happen the sample must be purified so that the only DNA present is that of the virus under study. Thehttps://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/technical-documents/technical-article/genomics/pcr/polymerase-chain-reaction
Since PCR works only for double stranded entities like DNA, they have to convert the test sample RNA into DNA with high fidelity. The reverse transcriptase enzyme is used for this, hence the name RT for reverse transcriptase, does not mean real time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4C5p8m-f14
Never fool us with your fake links
In 1985, Kary Mullis invented the process known as polymerase chain reaction (PCR), in which a small amount of DNA can be copied in large quantities over a short period of time. By applying heat, the DNA molecule's two strands are separated and the DNAbuilding blocks that have been added are bonded to each strand.
Kary B. Mullis – Facts - NobelPrize.org www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1993/mullis/facts/ www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1993/mullis/facts/
What is Kary Mullis PCR?preexisting 3'-OH group, it needs a primer to which it can add the first nucleotide.
is a revolutionary method developed by Kary Mullis in the 1980s. PCR is based on using the ability of DNA polymerase to synthesize new strand of DNA complementary to the offered template strand. Because DNA polymerase can add a nucleotide only onto a
Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR)DNA building blocks that have been added are bonded to each strand.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/probe/docs/techpcr/
Wyszukaj dla:What is Kary Mullis PCR?
What is the polymerase chain reaction?
In 1985, Kary Mullis invented the process known as polymerase chain reaction (PCR), in which a small amount of DNA can be copied in large quantities over a short period of time. By applying heat, the DNA molecule\'s two strands are separated and the
Kary B. Mullis - Facts - NobelPrize.org www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1993/mullis/facts/1998). "Nobel Chemist Kary Mullis, Making Waves as a Mind Surfer".
Wyszukaj dla:What is the polymerase chain reaction?
Did Kary Mullis use LSD to develop polymerase chain reaction?
During a press conference on Friday, Hofmann revealed that he was told by Nobel-prize-winning chemist Kary Mullis that LSD had helped him develop the polymerase chain reaction that helps amplify specific DNA sequences. ^ Carlson, Peter (November 3,
Kary Mullis - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis
What did Kary Mullis invent?
In 1985, Kary Mullis invented the process known as polymerase chain reaction (PCR), in which a small amount of DNA can be copied in large quantities over a short period of time.
Kary B. Mullis - Facts - NobelPrize.org www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1993/mullis/facts/
Polymerase Chain Reaction - Kary Mullis
www.karymullis.com/pcr.shtml
Dr. Kary Banks Mullis Polymerase Chain Reaction Making DNA accessible Most people in molecular biology today are not old enough to remember pre-PCR. But try to do your job without it, and you will see what a difference that simple little …
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On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 5:50:00 PM UTC-4, a a wrote:the test is doing exactly what it was intended to do - but if you don't understand what the test is intended to do, and how it works, you may miss this.
On Thursday, 28 July 2022 at 20:53:13 UTC+2, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 8:00:06 AM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 6:42:24 PM UTC+10, Martin Brown wrote:
On 27/07/2022 02:39, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 4:45:47 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 17:31:55 UTC+2, amdx wrote:
On 7/25/2022 8:27 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
PCR test generates false-positive results in 90% of cases
It doesn't. The polymerase chain reaction test just produces multiple copes of any RNA sequence it gets exposed to. It doesn't generate novel sequences.
PCR test generates about 20% of false negatives though - variously attributed to effects of inadequate sample taking and contamination of
samples by home users (samples taken by medic do slightly better).
PCR test is inclined to pick up fragments of smashed up Covid DNA in people who have already recovered from Covid which means that as an assay of how many people currently have Covid it reads high by an unknown factor but unlikely to be more than a factor of two.There isn't any DNA in Covid-19. It is an RNA virus. The PCR test goes through a DNA stage
https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/fact-sheets/Understanding-COVID-19-PCR-Testing
but it is aimed picking up relatively short DNA sequences that would be present in the DNA produced after exposure to Covid-19 RNA. Fragments of smashed up Covid-19 RNA will produce some of these short DNA sequences. It's not a "false positive" -
middle of the two halves yielding two single strands. This behavior is a discovery, not an invention of mankind, and a fortuitous discovery at that. The sample is then cooled while immersed in medium of amino acids and polymerase enzyme (the P in PCR)PCR does not work with RNA fundamentally because RNA is a single stranded polymer. PCR is based upon the principle of heating the DNA double strand to the point of breaking the amino acid bonds of the so-called double helix strand right down the
time. The resulting DNA is termed complementary DNA or cDNA. The test sample is almost at the point of being suitable for PCR amplification. Before this can happen the sample must be purified so that the only DNA present is that of the virus under study.https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/technical-documents/technical-article/genomics/pcr/polymerase-chain-reaction
Since PCR works only for double stranded entities like DNA, they have to convert the test sample RNA into DNA with high fidelity. The reverse transcriptase enzyme is used for this, hence the name RT for reverse transcriptase, does not mean real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4C5p8m-f14
Never fool us with your fake links
DNA building blocks that have been added are bonded to each strand.In 1985, Kary Mullis invented the process known as polymerase chain reaction (PCR), in which a small amount of DNA can be copied in large quantities over a short period of time. By applying heat, the DNA molecule's two strands are separated and the
Kary B. Mullis – Facts - NobelPrize.org www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1993/mullis/facts/ www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1993/mullis/facts/
preexisting 3'-OH group, it needs a primer to which it can add the first nucleotide.What is Kary Mullis PCR?
is a revolutionary method developed by Kary Mullis in the 1980s. PCR is based on using the ability of DNA polymerase to synthesize new strand of DNA complementary to the offered template strand. Because DNA polymerase can add a nucleotide only onto a
DNA building blocks that have been added are bonded to each strand.Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR)
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/probe/docs/techpcr/
Wyszukaj dla:What is Kary Mullis PCR?
What is the polymerase chain reaction?
In 1985, Kary Mullis invented the process known as polymerase chain reaction (PCR), in which a small amount of DNA can be copied in large quantities over a short period of time. By applying heat, the DNA molecule\'s two strands are separated and the
1998). "Nobel Chemist Kary Mullis, Making Waves as a Mind Surfer".Kary B. Mullis - Facts - NobelPrize.org www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1993/mullis/facts/
Wyszukaj dla:What is the polymerase chain reaction?
Did Kary Mullis use LSD to develop polymerase chain reaction?
During a press conference on Friday, Hofmann revealed that he was told by Nobel-prize-winning chemist Kary Mullis that LSD had helped him develop the polymerase chain reaction that helps amplify specific DNA sequences. ^ Carlson, Peter (November 3,
Kary Mullis - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis
What did Kary Mullis invent?
In 1985, Kary Mullis invented the process known as polymerase chain reaction (PCR), in which a small amount of DNA can be copied in large quantities over a short period of time.
Kary B. Mullis - Facts - NobelPrize.org www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1993/mullis/facts/
Polymerase Chain Reaction - Kary Mullis
www.karymullis.com/pcr.shtml
Dr. Kary Banks Mullis Polymerase Chain Reaction Making DNA accessible Most people in molecular biology today are not old enough to remember pre-PCR. But try to do your job without it, and you will see what a difference that simple little …
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On Friday, 29 July 2022 at 00:22:57 UTC+2, Fred Bloggs wrote:- the test is doing exactly what it was intended to do - but if you don't understand what the test is intended to do, and how it works, you may miss this.
On Thursday, July 28, 2022 at 5:50:00 PM UTC-4, a a wrote:
On Thursday, 28 July 2022 at 20:53:13 UTC+2, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 8:00:06 AM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 6:42:24 PM UTC+10, Martin Brown wrote:
On 27/07/2022 02:39, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 4:45:47 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:
On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 17:31:55 UTC+2, amdx wrote:
On 7/25/2022 8:27 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts wrote:
On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
PCR test generates false-positive results in 90% of cases
It doesn't. The polymerase chain reaction test just produces multiple copes of any RNA sequence it gets exposed to. It doesn't generate novel sequences.
PCR test generates about 20% of false negatives though - variously attributed to effects of inadequate sample taking and contamination of
samples by home users (samples taken by medic do slightly better).
PCR test is inclined to pick up fragments of smashed up Covid DNA inThere isn't any DNA in Covid-19. It is an RNA virus. The PCR test goes through a DNA stage
people who have already recovered from Covid which means that as an
assay of how many people currently have Covid it reads high by an unknown factor but unlikely to be more than a factor of two.
https://www.genome.gov/about-genomics/fact-sheets/Understanding-COVID-19-PCR-Testing
but it is aimed picking up relatively short DNA sequences that would be present in the DNA produced after exposure to Covid-19 RNA. Fragments of smashed up Covid-19 RNA will produce some of these short DNA sequences. It's not a "false positive"
middle of the two halves yielding two single strands. This behavior is a discovery, not an invention of mankind, and a fortuitous discovery at that. The sample is then cooled while immersed in medium of amino acids and polymerase enzyme (the P in PCR)PCR does not work with RNA fundamentally because RNA is a single stranded polymer. PCR is based upon the principle of heating the DNA double strand to the point of breaking the amino acid bonds of the so-called double helix strand right down the
time. The resulting DNA is termed complementary DNA or cDNA. The test sample is almost at the point of being suitable for PCR amplification. Before this can happen the sample must be purified so that the only DNA present is that of the virus under study.https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/US/en/technical-documents/technical-article/genomics/pcr/polymerase-chain-reaction
Since PCR works only for double stranded entities like DNA, they have to convert the test sample RNA into DNA with high fidelity. The reverse transcriptase enzyme is used for this, hence the name RT for reverse transcriptase, does not mean real
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4C5p8m-f14
Never fool us with your fake links
DNA building blocks that have been added are bonded to each strand.In 1985, Kary Mullis invented the process known as polymerase chain reaction (PCR), in which a small amount of DNA can be copied in large quantities over a short period of time. By applying heat, the DNA molecule's two strands are separated and the
Kary B. Mullis – Facts - NobelPrize.org www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1993/mullis/facts/ www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1993/mullis/facts/
a preexisting 3'-OH group, it needs a primer to which it can add the first nucleotide.What is Kary Mullis PCR?
is a revolutionary method developed by Kary Mullis in the 1980s. PCR is based on using the ability of DNA polymerase to synthesize new strand of DNA complementary to the offered template strand. Because DNA polymerase can add a nucleotide only onto
the DNA building blocks that have been added are bonded to each strand.Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR)
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/probe/docs/techpcr/
Wyszukaj dla:What is Kary Mullis PCR?
What is the polymerase chain reaction?
In 1985, Kary Mullis invented the process known as polymerase chain reaction (PCR), in which a small amount of DNA can be copied in large quantities over a short period of time. By applying heat, the DNA molecule\'s two strands are separated and
1998). "Nobel Chemist Kary Mullis, Making Waves as a Mind Surfer".Kary B. Mullis - Facts - NobelPrize.org www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1993/mullis/facts/
Wyszukaj dla:What is the polymerase chain reaction?
Did Kary Mullis use LSD to develop polymerase chain reaction?
During a press conference on Friday, Hofmann revealed that he was told by Nobel-prize-winning chemist Kary Mullis that LSD had helped him develop the polymerase chain reaction that helps amplify specific DNA sequences. ^ Carlson, Peter (November 3,
Kary Mullis - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis
What did Kary Mullis invent?
In 1985, Kary Mullis invented the process known as polymerase chain reaction (PCR), in which a small amount of DNA can be copied in large quantities over a short period of time.
Kary B. Mullis - Facts - NobelPrize.org www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1993/mullis/facts/
Polymerase Chain Reaction - Kary Mullis
www.karymullis.com/pcr.shtml
Dr. Kary Banks Mullis Polymerase Chain Reaction Making DNA accessible Most people in molecular biology today are not old enough to remember pre-PCR. But try to do your job without it, and you will see what a difference that simple little …
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you are stupid dog09.11.2017 · PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) is a revolutionary method developed by Kary Mullis in the 1980s. PCR is based on using the ability of DNA polymerase to synthesize new strand of DNA complementary to the offered …
PCR test is not fit for any commercial use.
PCR detects dead, segmented, digested coronaviruses in wastewater,
on the surfaces of vegetables grown
in greenhouses fed with wastewater from human septic tanks (Holland)
called organic farming, gardening, organic greenhousing
Digested coronaviruses, segments of coronaviruses are detected as the whole, active viruses
in human urine, human feces
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 4:42:24 AM UTC-4, Martin Brown wrote:
On 27/07/2022 02:39, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Wednesday, July 27, 2022 at 4:45:47 AM UTC+10, a a wrote:PCR test generates about 20% of false negatives though - variously
On Tuesday, 26 July 2022 at 17:31:55 UTC+2, amdx wrote:
On 7/25/2022 8:27 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 9:00:59 PM UTC+10, Jasen Betts
wrote:
On 2022-07-22, Flyguy <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
<snip>
PCR test generates false-positive results in 90% of cases
It doesn't. The polymerase chain reaction test just produces
multiple copes of any RNA sequence it gets exposed to. It doesn't
generate novel sequences.
attributed to effects of inadequate sample taking and contamination
of samples by home users (samples taken by medic do slightly
better).
PCR test is inclined to pick up fragments of smashed up Covid DNA
in people who have already recovered from Covid which means that as
an assay of how many people currently have Covid it reads high by
an unknown factor but unlikely to be more than a factor of two.
The stats were derived from the Liverpool mass testing programme
back when they were trying to calibrate the new quick LF home tests
for efficacy when compared to the gold standard PCR test. LF did
better than the initial evidence implied because PCR was picking up
people still shedding DNA fragments but were well past the
infective stage. The difficulty being that with 20-30% showing no
symptoms at all you are entirely reliant on the tests to know who
should be isolating.
Correspondingly the PCR test only really detects people who are
shedding enormous amounts of virus and are an immediate danger to
others. It's false positive rate is about 0.1% which is a nuisance
when applied for mass screening. PCR testing was used as definitive
in such edge cases back when the pandemic was running wild in the
UK (but then you have the problem of about 20% of those LF
positives and with all the symptoms really being Covid positive but
testing negative).
People I know who have had Covid were still testing positive for
Covid on LF more than a week after first showing symptoms so it is
by no means clear when infectivity ceases from a specific infected
individual.
Testing negative two days running is generally accepted as an all
clear.
When you see outrageously large false negative rates like 20% it
means there are major systemic errors in the system. It is
scientifically impossible for the laboratory test to be that bad all
by itself. Field workers are not handling and storing their swabs
properly, and probably taking inadequate swabs, same goes for the
whole lab chain from manufacture and delivery of materials, storing materials, using materials, and conducting the actual instrumentation
centric process. The false negatives in UK probably translates to
less than 1% in places like Germany with a much more intelligent, conscientious, and superior workforce....
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