• A Life, a Person, or Not?

    From Ricky@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 11 21:15:06 2022
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyuZ5xfT6s&ab_channel=TheDallasMorningNews

    Can it be both, that a fetus is a person who has the right to life, but not the right to use the HOV lanes? Sort of a substandard life, I guess, only earning some rights and not others?

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Ricky on Tue Jul 12 09:48:15 2022
    On 7/12/2022 12:15 AM, Ricky wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyuZ5xfT6s&ab_channel=TheDallasMorningNews

    Can it be both, that a fetus is a person who has the right to life, but not the right to use the HOV lanes? Sort of a substandard life, I guess, only earning some rights and not others?


    Supreme Court hasn't ruled on whether a fetus is a person. And AFAIK the
    only way the Republicans could in the foreseeable future pass a
    nationwide ban is if they frame the ban in those terms and the SC agrees
    that it is, in which case Congress has broad powers to pass laws to make
    what would then be considered murder illegal to whatever degree they see
    fit.

    Even in that case I expect she'd still get a ticket. Laws in America are designed to keep the powerful powerful and make sure anyone who's not
    that stays kicked to the curb and in line, they're not designed to be
    logically consistent.

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  • From Judge Dredd@21:1/5 to Ricky on Tue Jul 12 14:47:02 2022
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    Google Groups idiot post...

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyuZ5xfT6s&ab_channel=TheDallasMorningNews

    Can it be both, that a fetus is a person who has the right to life, but not the right to use the HOV lanes? Sort of a substandard life, I guess, only earning some rights and not others?

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to bitrex on Tue Jul 12 14:47:07 2022
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    Off-topic troll...

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    On 7/12/2022 12:15 AM, Ricky wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyuZ5xfT6s&ab_channel=TheDallasMorningNews

    Can it be both, that a fetus is a person who has the right to life, but not the right to use the HOV lanes? Sort of a substandard life, I guess, only earning some rights and not others?


    Supreme Court hasn't ruled on whether a fetus is a person. And AFAIK the
    only way the Republicans could in the foreseeable future pass a
    nationwide ban is if they frame the ban in those terms and the SC agrees
    that it is, in which case Congress has broad powers to pass laws to make
    what would then be considered murder illegal to whatever degree they see
    fit.

    Even in that case I expect she'd still get a ticket. Laws in America are designed to keep the powerful powerful and make sure anyone who's not
    that stays kicked to the curb and in line, they're not designed to be logically consistent.

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 12 14:55:29 2022
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    See also these John Doe troll nym-shift names:

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    John <look@post.header>
    Judge Dredd <always.look@post.header>
    "Edward's Mother" <always.see@post.header>
    "Edward's Father" <always.see@post.header>

    John Doe troll claiming it has never nym-shifted on Usenet: http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165248158300

    In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me> (http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
    12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Dope stated:

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 12 14:55:37 2022
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    See also these John Doe troll nym-shift names:

    John Doe <always.look@message.header>
    John <look@post.header>
    Judge Dredd <always.look@post.header>
    "Edward's Mother" <always.see@post.header>
    "Edward's Father" <always.see@post.header>

    John Doe troll claiming it has never nym-shifted on Usenet: http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165248158300

    Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
    <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
    (http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
    08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET (**) has been 72.8% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
    least 3166 articles to USENET. Of which 176 have been pure insults and
    2129 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
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  • From Lasse Langwadt Christensen@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 12 08:22:35 2022
    tirsdag den 12. juli 2022 kl. 15.48.22 UTC+2 skrev bitrex:
    On 7/12/2022 12:15 AM, Ricky wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyuZ5xfT6s&ab_channel=TheDallasMorningNews

    Can it be both, that a fetus is a person who has the right to life, but not the right to use the HOV lanes? Sort of a substandard life, I guess, only earning some rights and not others?

    Supreme Court hasn't ruled on whether a fetus is a person. And AFAIK the
    only way the Republicans could in the foreseeable future pass a
    nationwide ban is if they frame the ban in those terms and the SC agrees
    that it is, in which case Congress has broad powers to pass laws to make
    what would then be considered murder illegal to whatever degree they see
    fit.

    Even in that case I expect she'd still get a ticket. Laws in America are designed to keep the powerful powerful and make sure anyone who's not
    that stays kicked to the curb and in line, they're not designed to be logically consistent.

    maybe just an internet story, but apperently some did win the case that
    she had the right to use the HOV and was then promptly fined for failing
    to have her child in and approved childseat

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  • From Ricky@21:1/5 to lang...@fonz.dk on Tue Jul 12 12:50:30 2022
    On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-4, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
    tirsdag den 12. juli 2022 kl. 15.48.22 UTC+2 skrev bitrex:
    On 7/12/2022 12:15 AM, Ricky wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyuZ5xfT6s&ab_channel=TheDallasMorningNews

    Can it be both, that a fetus is a person who has the right to life, but not the right to use the HOV lanes? Sort of a substandard life, I guess, only earning some rights and not others?

    Supreme Court hasn't ruled on whether a fetus is a person. And AFAIK the only way the Republicans could in the foreseeable future pass a
    nationwide ban is if they frame the ban in those terms and the SC agrees that it is, in which case Congress has broad powers to pass laws to make what would then be considered murder illegal to whatever degree they see fit.

    Even in that case I expect she'd still get a ticket. Laws in America are designed to keep the powerful powerful and make sure anyone who's not
    that stays kicked to the curb and in line, they're not designed to be logically consistent.
    maybe just an internet story, but apperently some did win the case that
    she had the right to use the HOV and was then promptly fined for failing
    to have her child in and approved childseat

    Yeah, right... do you really believe that?

    They usually list the approved ages on child seats since there are a number of different ones for different ages. If there are no seats available for children under 0 years of age, that isn't the parents fault. The fetus is already in a very well
    protected environment.

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    Rick C.

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jul 13 03:34:06 2022
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    See also these John Doe troll nym-shift names:

    John Doe <always.look@message.header>
    John <look@post.header>
    Judge Dredd <always.look@post.header>
    "Edward's Mother" <always.see@post.header>
    "Edward's Father" <always.see@post.header>

    John Doe troll claiming it has never nym-shifted on Usenet: http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165248158300

    Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
    <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
    (http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
    08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET (**) has been 72.9% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
    least 3174 articles to USENET. Of which 176 have been pure insults and
    2137 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

    The John Dope troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Dope troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Dope troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Wed, 13 Jul 2022 03:33:41 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <taleel$29e8j$1@dont-email.me>).

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
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    the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    53ZiTb5j4uWX

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  • From boB@21:1/5 to gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com on Tue Jul 12 21:05:21 2022
    On Tue, 12 Jul 2022 12:50:30 -0700 (PDT), Ricky <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Tuesday, July 12, 2022 at 11:22:39 AM UTC-4, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
    tirsdag den 12. juli 2022 kl. 15.48.22 UTC+2 skrev bitrex:
    On 7/12/2022 12:15 AM, Ricky wrote:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyuZ5xfT6s&ab_channel=TheDallasMorningNews

    Can it be both, that a fetus is a person who has the right to life, but not the right to use the HOV lanes? Sort of a substandard life, I guess, only earning some rights and not others?

    Supreme Court hasn't ruled on whether a fetus is a person. And AFAIK the >> > only way the Republicans could in the foreseeable future pass a
    nationwide ban is if they frame the ban in those terms and the SC agrees >> > that it is, in which case Congress has broad powers to pass laws to make >> > what would then be considered murder illegal to whatever degree they see >> > fit.

    Even in that case I expect she'd still get a ticket. Laws in America are >> > designed to keep the powerful powerful and make sure anyone who's not
    that stays kicked to the curb and in line, they're not designed to be
    logically consistent.
    maybe just an internet story, but apperently some did win the case that
    she had the right to use the HOV and was then promptly fined for failing
    to have her child in and approved childseat

    Yeah, right... do you really believe that?

    They usually list the approved ages on child seats since there are a number of different ones for different ages. If there are no seats available for children under 0 years of age, that isn't the parents fault. The fetus is already in a very well
    protected environment.


    I heard about this.... I hope she wins.

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