• Re: Boeing Might Cancel the faulty MCAS 737 MAX 10 .

    From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to a a on Sat Jul 9 15:10:54 2022
    On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 5:19:14 PM UTC-4, a a wrote:
    Latest News
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    4:12p
    Barron's Boeing Might Cancel the 737 MAX 10. That's More Uncertainty for Shares.


    https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/boeing-737-max-10-dave-calhoun-51657397521?mod=mw_latestnews


    In a recent interview with trade publication Aviation Week, Calhoun hinted that the the longest version of Boeing’s 737 MAX—the MAX 10—might be have to be canceled and dropped from its production lineup.

    “We end up having to face right into that question,” Calhoun told the outlet. “If you go through the things we’ve been through, the debts that we’ve had to accumulate, our ability to respond, or willingness to see things through even a world
    without the -10 is not that threatening.”

    The MAX 10 is larger and has bigger landing gear than the other MAX planes currently flying, but Boeing (ticker: BA) is concerned about something else: The company needs Congress to extend a deadline that would require changes to the MAX 10 flight deck.
    If the extension doesn’t happen, the commonality of all MAX jet types will be at risk.

    A loss of commonality among MAX types could be a headache for airlines. If pilots flying MAX models face different flight decks or need new training for jet types, airlines might face staffing issues and have to increase training spend.

    “We believe that commonality is one of the key safety features of our family of the 737 airplane,” Mike Fleming, Boeing’s senior vice president of 737 MAX Return to Service, Commercial Customer Support and Commercial Derivative Programs, told
    reporters in a Seattle media briefing recently.

    Fleming sounded confident things would work themselves out—but a MAX 10 cancelation would would leave Boeing without a plane rivaling Airbus ‘ (AIR.France) popular A321 NEO model.

    “As we have said, we are working transparently with the [Federal Aviation Administration] to provide the information they need, and are committed to meeting their expectations and those of our customers to certify and deliver the 737-10,” a Boeing
    spokeswoman told Barron’s. “Safety remains the driving factor in this effort.”

    Maybe- but can it survive a Pakistani pilot bringing it in for a hard belly landing at nearly 300 MPH??? Until they demonstrate that, no certification should be forthcoming.


    Melius research analyst Robert Spingarn noted the interview and potential cancelation in a Friday night report which highlighted his “chart of the week.” Springarn showed that Boeing has amassed 639 orders for the MAX 10 so far


    Boeing MAX MCAS is faulty by design and should have been cancelled 10 years ago to save the lifes of 1,000 passengers ( 3 deadly crashes)

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 9 14:19:10 2022
    Latest News
    All Times Eastern

    4:12p
    Barron's Boeing Might Cancel the 737 MAX 10. That's More Uncertainty for Shares.


    https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/boeing-737-max-10-dave-calhoun-51657397521?mod=mw_latestnews


    In a recent interview with trade publication Aviation Week, Calhoun hinted that the the longest version of Boeing’s 737 MAX—the MAX 10—might be have to be canceled and dropped from its production lineup.

    “We end up having to face right into that question,” Calhoun told the outlet. “If you go through the things we’ve been through, the debts that we’ve had to accumulate, our ability to respond, or willingness to see things through even a world
    without the -10 is not that threatening.”

    The MAX 10 is larger and has bigger landing gear than the other MAX planes currently flying, but Boeing (ticker: BA) is concerned about something else: The company needs Congress to extend a deadline that would require changes to the MAX 10 flight deck.
    If the extension doesn’t happen, the commonality of all MAX jet types will be at risk.

    A loss of commonality among MAX types could be a headache for airlines. If pilots flying MAX models face different flight decks or need new training for jet types, airlines might face staffing issues and have to increase training spend.

    “We believe that commonality is one of the key safety features of our family of the 737 airplane,” Mike Fleming, Boeing’s senior vice president of 737 MAX Return to Service, Commercial Customer Support and Commercial Derivative Programs, told
    reporters in a Seattle media briefing recently.

    Fleming sounded confident things would work themselves out—but a MAX 10 cancelation would would leave Boeing without a plane rivaling Airbus ‘ (AIR.France) popular A321 NEO model.

    “As we have said, we are working transparently with the [Federal Aviation Administration] to provide the information they need, and are committed to meeting their expectations and those of our customers to certify and deliver the 737-10,” a Boeing
    spokeswoman told Barron’s. “Safety remains the driving factor in this effort.”

    Melius research analyst Robert Spingarn noted the interview and potential cancelation in a Friday night report which highlighted his “chart of the week.” Springarn showed that Boeing has amassed 639 orders for the MAX 10 so far


    Boeing MAX MCAS is faulty by design and should have been cancelled 10 years ago to save the lifes of 1,000 passengers ( 3 deadly crashes)

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to a a on Sat Jul 9 14:24:27 2022
    On Saturday, 9 July 2022 at 23:19:14 UTC+2, a a wrote:
    Latest News
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    4:12p
    Barron's Boeing Might Cancel the 737 MAX 10. That's More Uncertainty for Shares.


    https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/boeing-737-max-10-dave-calhoun-51657397521?mod=mw_latestnews


    In a recent interview with trade publication Aviation Week, Calhoun hinted that the the longest version of Boeing’s 737 MAX—the MAX 10—might be have to be canceled and dropped from its production lineup.

    “We end up having to face right into that question,” Calhoun told the outlet. “If you go through the things we’ve been through, the debts that we’ve had to accumulate, our ability to respond, or willingness to see things through even a world
    without the -10 is not that threatening.”

    The MAX 10 is larger and has bigger landing gear than the other MAX planes currently flying, but Boeing (ticker: BA) is concerned about something else: The company needs Congress to extend a deadline that would require changes to the MAX 10 flight deck.
    If the extension doesn’t happen, the commonality of all MAX jet types will be at risk.

    A loss of commonality among MAX types could be a headache for airlines. If pilots flying MAX models face different flight decks or need new training for jet types, airlines might face staffing issues and have to increase training spend.

    “We believe that commonality is one of the key safety features of our family of the 737 airplane,” Mike Fleming, Boeing’s senior vice president of 737 MAX Return to Service, Commercial Customer Support and Commercial Derivative Programs, told
    reporters in a Seattle media briefing recently.

    Fleming sounded confident things would work themselves out—but a MAX 10 cancelation would would leave Boeing without a plane rivaling Airbus ‘ (AIR.France) popular A321 NEO model.

    “As we have said, we are working transparently with the [Federal Aviation Administration] to provide the information they need, and are committed to meeting their expectations and those of our customers to certify and deliver the 737-10,” a Boeing
    spokeswoman told Barron’s. “Safety remains the driving factor in this effort.”

    Melius research analyst Robert Spingarn noted the interview and potential cancelation in a Friday night report which highlighted his “chart of the week.” Springarn showed that Boeing has amassed 639 orders for the MAX 10 so far


    Boeing MAX MCAS is faulty by design and should have been cancelled 10 years ago to save the lifes of 1,000 passengers ( 3 deadly crashes)
    After two deadly crashes happened less than five months apart, all MAX planes were grounded worldwide from March 2019 to November 2020. Since returning them to service, Boeing has garnered about 1,000 new MAX orders. While the MAX 8s and 9s reintroduced
    to fleets have operated without major incident, Boeing is still waiting for aviation authorities to certify the MAX 10.

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 9 15:44:17 2022
    On Sat, 9 Jul 2022 14:19:10 -0700 (PDT), a a <manta103g@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Latest News
    All Times Eastern

    4:12p
    Barron's Boeing Might Cancel the 737 MAX 10. That's More Uncertainty for Shares.


    https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/boeing-737-max-10-dave-calhoun-51657397521?mod=mw_latestnews


    In a recent interview with trade publication Aviation Week, Calhoun hinted that the the longest version of Boeings 737 MAXthe MAX 10might be have to be canceled and dropped from its production lineup.

    We end up having to face right into that question, Calhoun told the outlet. If you go through the things weve been through, the debts that weve had to accumulate, our ability to respond, or willingness to see things through even a world without the
    -10 is not that threatening.

    The MAX 10 is larger and has bigger landing gear than the other MAX planes currently flying, but Boeing (ticker: BA) is concerned about something else: The company needs Congress to extend a deadline that would require changes to the MAX 10 flight deck.
    If the extension doesnt happen, the commonality of all MAX jet types will be at risk.

    A loss of commonality among MAX types could be a headache for airlines. If pilots flying MAX models face different flight decks or need new training for jet types, airlines might face staffing issues and have to increase training spend.

    We believe that commonality is one of the key safety features of our family of the 737 airplane, Mike Fleming, Boeings senior vice president of 737 MAX Return to Service, Commercial Customer Support and Commercial Derivative Programs, told reporters
    in a Seattle media briefing recently.

    Fleming sounded confident things would work themselves outbut a MAX 10 cancelation would would leave Boeing without a plane rivaling Airbus (AIR.France) popular A321 NEO model.

    As we have said, we are working transparently with the [Federal Aviation Administration] to provide the information they need, and are committed to meeting their expectations and those of our customers to certify and deliver the 737-10, a Boeing
    spokeswoman told Barrons. Safety remains the driving factor in this effort.

    Melius research analyst Robert Spingarn noted the interview and potential cancelation in a Friday night report which highlighted his chart of the week. Springarn showed that Boeing has amassed 639 orders for the MAX 10 so far


    Boeing MAX MCAS is faulty by design and should have been cancelled 10 years ago to save the lifes of 1,000 passengers ( 3 deadly crashes)


    Do you plan to spend your entire life refreshing MarketWatch?

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    Latest News
    All Times Eastern

    4:12p
    Barron's Boeing Might Cancel the 737 MAX 10. That's More Uncertainty fo= r Shares.


    https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/boeing-737-max-10-dave-calhoun-5165739= 7521?mod=3Dmw_latestnews


    In a recent interview with trade publication Aviation Week, Calhoun hinted = that the the longest version of Boeing=E2=80=99s 737 MAX=E2=80=94the MAX 10= =E2=80=94might be have to be canceled and dropped from its production lineu= p. =20

    =E2=80=9CWe end up having to face right into that question,=E2=80=9D Calhou= n told the outlet. =E2=80=9CIf you go through the things we=E2=80=99ve been=
    through, the debts that we=E2=80=99ve had to accumulate, our ability to re= spond, or willingness to see things through even a world without the -10 is=
    not that threatening.=E2=80=9D

    The MAX 10 is larger and has bigger landing gear than the other MAX planes = currently flying, but Boeing (ticker: BA) is concerned about something else= : The company needs Congress to extend a deadline that would require change= s to the MAX 10 flight deck. If the extension doesn=E2=80=99t happen, the c= ommonality of all MAX jet types will be at risk.

    A loss of commonality among MAX types could be a headache for airlines. If = pilots flying MAX models face different flight decks or need new training f= or jet types, airlines might face staffing issues and have to increase trai= ning spend.

    =E2=80=9CWe believe that commonality is one of the key safety features of o= ur family of the 737 airplane,=E2=80=9D Mike Fleming, Boeing=E2=80=99s seni= or vice president of 737 MAX Return to Service, Commercial Customer Support=
    and Commercial Derivative Programs, told reporters in a Seattle media brie= fing recently.

    Fleming sounded confident things would work themselves out=E2=80=94but a MA= X 10 cancelation would would leave Boeing without a plane rivaling Airbus = =E2=80=98 (AIR.France) popular A321 NEO model.

    =E2=80=9CAs we have said, we are working transparently with the [Federal Av= iation Administration] to provide the information they need, and are commit= ted to meeting their expectations and those of our customers to certify and=
    deliver the 737-10,=E2=80=9D a Boeing spokeswoman told Barron=E2=80=99s. = =E2=80=9CSafety remains the driving factor in this effort.=E2=80=9D

    Melius research analyst Robert Spingarn noted the interview and potential c= ancelation in a Friday night report which highlighted his =E2=80=9Cchart of=
    the week.=E2=80=9D Springarn showed that Boeing has amassed 639 orders for=
    the MAX 10 so far


    Boeing MAX MCAS is faulty by design and should have been cancelled 10 years=
    ago to save the lifes of 1,000 passengers ( 3 deadly crashes)

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    On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 5:19:14 PM UTC-4, a a wrote:
    Latest News=20
    All Times Eastern=20
    =20
    4:12p=20
    Barron's Boeing Might Cancel the 737 MAX 10. That's More Uncertainty for =
    Shares.=20
    =20
    =20
    https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/boeing-737-max-10-dave-calhoun-51657=
    397521?mod=3Dmw_latestnews=20
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    In a recent interview with trade publication Aviation Week, Calhoun hinte=
    d that the the longest version of Boeing=E2=80=99s 737 MAX=E2=80=94the MAX = 10=E2=80=94might be have to be canceled and dropped from its production lin= eup.=20
    =20
    =E2=80=9CWe end up having to face right into that question,=E2=80=9D Calh=
    oun told the outlet. =E2=80=9CIf you go through the things we=E2=80=99ve be= en through, the debts that we=E2=80=99ve had to accumulate, our ability to = respond, or willingness to see things through even a world without the -10 = is not that threatening.=E2=80=9D=20
    =20
    The MAX 10 is larger and has bigger landing gear than the other MAX plane=
    s currently flying, but Boeing (ticker: BA) is concerned about something el= se: The company needs Congress to extend a deadline that would require chan= ges to the MAX 10 flight deck. If the extension doesn=E2=80=99t happen, the=
    commonality of all MAX jet types will be at risk.=20
    =20
    A loss of commonality among MAX types could be a headache for airlines. I=
    f pilots flying MAX models face different flight decks or need new training=
    for jet types, airlines might face staffing issues and have to increase tr= aining spend.=20
    =20
    =E2=80=9CWe believe that commonality is one of the key safety features of=
    our family of the 737 airplane,=E2=80=9D Mike Fleming, Boeing=E2=80=99s se= nior vice president of 737 MAX Return to Service, Commercial Customer Suppo= rt and Commercial Derivative Programs, told reporters in a Seattle media br= iefing recently.=20
    =20
    Fleming sounded confident things would work themselves out=E2=80=94but a =
    MAX 10 cancelation would would leave Boeing without a plane rivaling Airbus=
    =E2=80=98 (AIR.France) popular A321 NEO model.=20
    =20
    =E2=80=9CAs we have said, we are working transparently with the [Federal =
    Aviation Administration] to provide the information they need, and are comm= itted to meeting their expectations and those of our customers to certify a= nd deliver the 737-10,=E2=80=9D a Boeing spokeswoman told Barron=E2=80=99s.=
    =E2=80=9CSafety remains the driving factor in this effort.=E2=80=9D=20

    Maybe- but can it survive a Pakistani pilot bringing it in for a hard belly=
    landing at nearly 300 MPH??? Until they demonstrate that, no certification=
    should be forthcoming.

    =20
    Melius research analyst Robert Spingarn noted the interview and potential=
    cancelation in a Friday night report which highlighted his =E2=80=9Cchart = of the week.=E2=80=9D Springarn showed that Boeing has amassed 639 orders f= or the MAX 10 so far=20
    =20
    =20
    Boeing MAX MCAS is faulty by design and should have been cancelled 10 yea=
    rs ago to save the lifes of 1,000 passengers ( 3 deadly crashes)

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to a a on Sun Jul 10 01:35:14 2022
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    Google Groups moron...

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    On Saturday, 9 July 2022 at 23:19:14 UTC+2, a a wrote:
    Latest News=20
    All Times Eastern=20
    =20
    4:12p=20
    Barron's Boeing Might Cancel the 737 MAX 10. That's More Uncertainty for =
    Shares.=20
    =20
    =20
    https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/boeing-737-max-10-dave-calhoun-51657=
    397521?mod=3Dmw_latestnews=20
    =20
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    In a recent interview with trade publication Aviation Week, Calhoun hinte=
    d that the the longest version of Boeing=E2=80=99s 737 MAX=E2=80=94the MAX = 10=E2=80=94might be have to be canceled and dropped from its production lin= eup.=20
    =20
    =E2=80=9CWe end up having to face right into that question,=E2=80=9D Calh=
    oun told the outlet. =E2=80=9CIf you go through the things we=E2=80=99ve be= en through, the debts that we=E2=80=99ve had to accumulate, our ability to = respond, or willingness to see things through even a world without the -10 = is not that threatening.=E2=80=9D=20
    =20
    The MAX 10 is larger and has bigger landing gear than the other MAX plane=
    s currently flying, but Boeing (ticker: BA) is concerned about something el= se: The company needs Congress to extend a deadline that would require chan= ges to the MAX 10 flight deck. If the extension doesn=E2=80=99t happen, the=
    commonality of all MAX jet types will be at risk.=20
    =20
    A loss of commonality among MAX types could be a headache for airlines. I=
    f pilots flying MAX models face different flight decks or need new training=
    for jet types, airlines might face staffing issues and have to increase tr= aining spend.=20
    =20
    =E2=80=9CWe believe that commonality is one of the key safety features of=
    our family of the 737 airplane,=E2=80=9D Mike Fleming, Boeing=E2=80=99s se= nior vice president of 737 MAX Return to Service, Commercial Customer Suppo= rt and Commercial Derivative Programs, told reporters in a Seattle media br= iefing recently.=20
    =20
    Fleming sounded confident things would work themselves out=E2=80=94but a =
    MAX 10 cancelation would would leave Boeing without a plane rivaling Airbus=
    =E2=80=98 (AIR.France) popular A321 NEO model.=20
    =20
    =E2=80=9CAs we have said, we are working transparently with the [Federal =
    Aviation Administration] to provide the information they need, and are comm= itted to meeting their expectations and those of our customers to certify a= nd deliver the 737-10,=E2=80=9D a Boeing spokeswoman told Barron=E2=80=99s.=
    =E2=80=9CSafety remains the driving factor in this effort.=E2=80=9D=20
    =20
    Melius research analyst Robert Spingarn noted the interview and potential=
    cancelation in a Friday night report which highlighted his =E2=80=9Cchart = of the week.=E2=80=9D Springarn showed that Boeing has amassed 639 orders f= or the MAX 10 so far=20
    =20
    =20
    Boeing MAX MCAS is faulty by design and should have been cancelled 10 yea=
    rs ago to save the lifes of 1,000 passengers ( 3 deadly crashes)
    After two deadly crashes happened less than five months apart, all MAX plan= es were grounded worldwide from March 2019 to November 2020. Since returnin= g them to service, Boeing has garnered about 1,000 new MAX orders. While th= e MAX 8s and 9s reintroduced to fleets have operated without major incident= , Boeing is still waiting for aviation authorities to certify the MAX 10.

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to a a on Sat Jul 9 20:33:26 2022
    On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 2:19:14 PM UTC-7, a a wrote:
    Latest News
    All Times Eastern

    4:12p
    Barron's Boeing Might Cancel the 737 MAX 10. That's More Uncertainty for Shares.


    https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/boeing-737-max-10-dave-calhoun-51657397521?mod=mw_latestnews

    In a recent interview with trade publication Aviation Week, Calhoun hinted that the the longest version of Boeing’s 737 MAX—the MAX 10—might be have to be canceled and dropped from its production lineup.

    Boeing MAX MCAS is faulty by design and should have been cancelled 10 years ago to save the lifes of 1,000 passengers ( 3 deadly crashes)

    Not a useful observation: one 737-MAX model had, not an airframe failure, but a controls issue, and
    those faulty controls were retired years ago. Other than the 'MAX' word, the plane that's being
    considered here is having completely different issues (mainly, some time-delay on
    its certifications). There is no reason to support scrapping all Boeing aircraft with that airframe.

    A few years ago, a Seattle bus was in an altercation (someone shot the driver) and the
    bus went off a bridge, with passengers. There was a photo of the bus doing a nosedive, and...
    the city of Seattle has renamed that bus route so that no one has to take a ride on the 'same bus'
    that crashed. No more #359 bus route! <https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/bus-plunges-over-aurora-bridge-in-1998-passenger-recalls-the-crash/879515550/>

    Oh, there's another number now, for busses on that route. That old number was just... unlucky.

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  • From Judge Dredd@21:1/5 to whit3rd@gmail.com on Sun Jul 10 03:51:24 2022
    whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

    A few years ago, a Seattle bus was in an altercation (someone shot the driver) and the bus went off a bridge, with passengers. There was a
    photo of the bus doing a nosedive, and... the city of Seattle has
    renamed that bus route so that no one has to take a ride on the 'same
    bus' that crashed. No more #359 bus route!

    <https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/bus-plunges-over-aurora-bridge-in-1998-passenger-recalls-the-crash/879515550/>

    In China... A passenger gave the bus driver a hard time and physically assaulted him. He took a sharp left turn on the bridge, letting himself
    and everyone else off at the next stop, "Willoughby"...

    https://youtu.be/958YawCY2uk

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 10 04:36:54 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    result
    Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
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    (http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
    08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET (**) has been 70.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
    least 2907 articles to USENET. Of which 176 have been pure insults and
    1879 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

    The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
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    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has continued to post incorrectly
    formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Sun, 10 Jul 2022 04:35:09 GMT in message-id <1GsyK.490413$pqD1.181979@usenetxs.com>).

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
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    the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    Zq03cJisZ1Zx

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  • From Judge Dredd@21:1/5 to Judge Dredd on Sun Jul 10 04:35:10 2022
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    Off-topic troll...

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    Subject: Re: Boeing Might Cancel the faulty MCAS 737 MAX 10 .
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    whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

    A few years ago, a Seattle bus was in an altercation (someone shot the driver) and the bus went off a bridge, with passengers. There was a
    photo of the bus doing a nosedive, and... the city of Seattle has
    renamed that bus route so that no one has to take a ride on the 'same
    bus' that crashed. No more #359 bus route!

    <https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/bus-plunges-over-aurora-bridge-in-1998-passenger-recalls-the-crash/879515550/>

    In China... A passenger gave the bus driver a hard time and physically assaulted him. He took a sharp left turn on the bridge, letting himself
    and everyone else off at the next stop, "Willoughby"...

    https://youtu.be/958YawCY2uk

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to whit3rd@gmail.com on Sun Jul 10 04:35:09 2022
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    Google Groups spam...

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    On Saturday, July 9, 2022 at 2:19:14 PM UTC-7, a a wrote:
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    =20
    4:12p=20
    Barron's Boeing Might Cancel the 737 MAX 10. That's More Uncertainty for =
    Shares.=20
    =20
    =20
    https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/boeing-737-max-10-dave-calhoun-51657=
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    In a recent interview with trade publication Aviation Week, Calhoun hinte=
    d that the the longest version of Boeing=E2=80=99s 737 MAX=E2=80=94the MAX = 10=E2=80=94might be have to be canceled and dropped from its production lin= eup.=20

    Boeing MAX MCAS is faulty by design and should have been cancelled 10 yea=
    rs ago to save the lifes of 1,000 passengers ( 3 deadly crashes)

    Not a useful observation: one 737-MAX model had, not an airframe failure, = but a controls issue, and
    those faulty controls were retired years ago. Other than the 'MAX' word, = the plane that's being
    considered here is having completely different issues (mainly, some time-de= lay on
    its certifications). There is no reason to support scrapping all Boeing = aircraft with that airframe.

    A few years ago, a Seattle bus was in an altercation (someone shot the driv= er) and the
    bus went off a bridge, with passengers. There was a photo of the bus doin= g a nosedive, and...
    the city of Seattle has renamed that bus route so that no one has to take a=
    ride on the 'same bus'
    that crashed. No more #359 bus route! <https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/bus-plunges-over-aurora-bridge-in-1998-pa= ssenger-recalls-the-crash/879515550/>

    Oh, there's another number now, for busses on that route. That old number=
    was just... unlucky.

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  • From Edward's Mother@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Jul 10 04:40:33 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Edward Hernandez, the Astraweb nym-shifting forger is trolling off-topic
    and other posts with someone else's ID, then replies to its own post, strangely,
    as if it were replying to someone else.

    See also...
    Edward H. <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
    John Doe <always.look message.header> (Astraweb, Aioe.org)
    Judge Dredd <always.look@post.header> (Astraweb)
    Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri yahoo.com> (unlikely but possible)

    --
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    Latest News=20
    All Times Eastern=20
    =20
    4:12p=20
    Barron's Boeing Might Cancel the 737 MAX 10. That's More Uncertainty for = >> Shares.=20
    =20
    =20
    https://www.marketwatch.com/articles/boeing-737-max-10-dave-calhoun-51657= >> 397521?mod=3Dmw_latestnews=20

    In a recent interview with trade publication Aviation Week, Calhoun hinte= >> d that the the longest version of Boeing=E2=80=99s 737 MAX=E2=80=94the MAX = >> 10=E2=80=94might be have to be canceled and dropped from its production lin= >> eup.=20

    Boeing MAX MCAS is faulty by design and should have been cancelled 10 yea= >> rs ago to save the lifes of 1,000 passengers ( 3 deadly crashes)

    Not a useful observation: one 737-MAX model had, not an airframe failure, = >> but a controls issue, and
    those faulty controls were retired years ago. Other than the 'MAX' word, = >> the plane that's being
    considered here is having completely different issues (mainly, some time-de= >> lay on
    its certifications). There is no reason to support scrapping all Boeing = >> aircraft with that airframe.

    A few years ago, a Seattle bus was in an altercation (someone shot the driv= >> er) and the
    bus went off a bridge, with passengers. There was a photo of the bus doin= >> g a nosedive, and...
    the city of Seattle has renamed that bus route so that no one has to take a= >> ride on the 'same bus'
    that crashed. No more #359 bus route!
    <https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/bus-plunges-over-aurora-bridge-in-1998-pa= >> ssenger-recalls-the-crash/879515550/>

    Oh, there's another number now, for busses on that route. That old number= >> was just... unlucky.




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  • From Edward's Mother@21:1/5 to Judge Dredd on Sun Jul 10 04:42:04 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Edward Hernandez, the Astraweb nym-shifting forger is trolling off-topic
    and other posts with someone else's ID, then replies to its own post, strangely,
    as if it were replying to someone else.

    See also...
    Edward H. <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
    John Doe <always.look message.header> (Astraweb, Aioe.org)
    Judge Dredd <always.look@post.header> (Astraweb)
    Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri yahoo.com> (unlikely but possible)

    --
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    whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

    A few years ago, a Seattle bus was in an altercation (someone shot the
    driver) and the bus went off a bridge, with passengers. There was a
    photo of the bus doing a nosedive, and... the city of Seattle has
    renamed that bus route so that no one has to take a ride on the 'same
    bus' that crashed. No more #359 bus route!

    <https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/bus-plunges-over-aurora-bridge-in-1998-passenger-recalls-the-crash/879515550/>

    In China... A passenger gave the bus driver a hard time and physically
    assaulted him. He took a sharp left turn on the bridge, letting himself
    and everyone else off at the next stop, "Willoughby"...

    https://youtu.be/958YawCY2uk



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 10 04:49:24 2022
    See also:
    John Doe <always.look@message.header>
    John <look@post.header>
    Judge Dredd <always.look@post.header>
    "Edward's Mother" <always.see@post.header>

    In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me> (http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
    12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Doe stated:

    Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
    NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
    USENET (**) has been 70.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
    least 2907 articles to USENET. Of which 176 have been pure insults and
    1879 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Sun, 10 Jul 2022 04:42:04 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <tadlas$19vp3$1@dont-email.me>).

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that Troll Doe does not even follow
    the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    XJrlLCpQNB8q

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