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    From a a@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 23 11:50:17 2022
    The Wall Street Journal
    Tesla’s new factories are ‘gigantic money furnaces,’ Elon Musk says Published: June 22, 2022 at 5:59 p.m. ET
    By Rebecca Elliott
    comments
    New car factories in Austin and Berlin have been losing billions of dollars, CEO says in interview

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/teslas-new-factories-are-gigantic-money-furnaces-elon-musk-says-11655935191?mod=mw_more_headlines

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Jun 23 15:06:21 2022
    On Thursday, 23 June 2022 at 23:43:55 UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
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    urnaces-elon-musk-says-11655935191?mod=3Dmw_more_headlines


    =John Doe’s profile photo
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    22 Jun 2022, 01:23:37 (yesterday)
    to
    -Eddie, the Astraweb nym-shifting stalker is flagging off-topic posts
    with its forgery of my ID, then replies to its own forgery. Strange but true.

    =Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    See also...
    Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri yahoo.com>
    John Doe <always.look message.header> (Astraweb, Aioe.org)
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 23 22:29:38 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    How stupid is Troll Doe?

    Troll Doe posting one of its vacuous insults at 05:39:20 UTC on 20 Mar
    2022 with a grammatical error:

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164790428800

    Then, at 05:55:56 UTC, 16 minutes and 36 seconds later, Troll Doe
    responds to its own post with a correction, but stupidly forgets that it
    sets a Followup-To: header to the "alt.test.group", resulting in its
    correction article posting only to "alt.test.group":

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164790440700

    Troll Doe, mister "always.look@message.header", is so stupid it does not
    even remember it sets a Followup-To: header in its own vacuous insults.

    Special thanks to corvid <bl@ckb.ird> for pointing out the stupidity of
    Troll Doe:

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165594737000

    The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
    <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has continued to post incorrectly
    formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 23 Jun 2022 21:43:49 GMT in message-id
    <p85tK.623$Zth9.505@usenetxs.com>).

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    R4bUf9EOvkrD

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to a a on Thu Jun 23 18:13:13 2022
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
    The Wall Street Journal
    Tesla’s new factories are ‘gigantic money furnaces,’ Elon Musk says Published: June 22, 2022 at 5:59 p.m. ET
    By Rebecca Elliott
    comments
    New car factories in Austin and Berlin have been losing billions of dollars, CEO says in interview

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/teslas-new-factories-are-gigantic-money-furnaces-elon-musk-says-11655935191?mod=mw_more_headlines

    I think they are trying to hide losts in crypto, and blame it on factories. I believe their bitcoin is worth at least 1/2B less than last quarter. Is Tesla an auto maker or crypto hedge fund?

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to edward.ming.lee@gmail.com on Thu Jun 23 20:04:48 2022
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:13:13 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
    The Wall Street Journal
    Teslas new factories are gigantic money furnaces, Elon Musk says
    Published: June 22, 2022 at 5:59 p.m. ET
    By Rebecca Elliott
    comments
    New car factories in Austin and Berlin have been losing billions of dollars, CEO says in interview

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/teslas-new-factories-are-gigantic-money-furnaces-elon-musk-says-11655935191?mod=mw_more_headlines

    I think they are trying to hide losts in crypto, and blame it on factories. I believe their bitcoin is worth at least 1/2B less than last quarter. Is Tesla an auto maker or crypto hedge fund?

    I wonder if electric cars are viable in large scale long-term. After
    various subsidies are gone. There may not be enough lithium and stuff
    to electrify the world. Or enough electric supply.

    People may have to burn a lot of coal to charge cars.



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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to John Doe on Fri Jun 24 03:09:52 2022
    John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:
    so my posts don't start with "off topic" or "Google troll"

    When I wrote the above, I was lying.

    Here is an example where my post 'start[ed] with "off topic"':

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603541900

    Here is an example where I flagged a Google Groups posting as "Google
    Groups moron...":

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603496000

    Here are three examples where I flagged Google Groups postings as
    "Google Groups garbage..."

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603500300 http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603665700 http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603509900

    Here are two examples where I flagged Google Groups postings as "Google
    Groups idiot..."

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603538300 http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164892406900

    Here is an example where I flagged a Google Groups posting as "Google
    Groups idiot post..."

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165313499600

    Here are four examples where I flagged Google Groups postings as
    "Google spam..."

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603442200 http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603439200 http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603442200 http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603439200

    Here are four examples where I flagged Google Groups postings as
    "Google Groups spam..."

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603536500 http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603519400 http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603524900 http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165603533500

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com on Fri Jun 24 05:27:05 2022
    On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 5:05:02 AM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:13:13 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
    The Wall Street Journal
    Tesla’s new factories are ‘gigantic money furnaces,’ Elon Musk says >> Published: June 22, 2022 at 5:59 p.m. ET
    By Rebecca Elliott
    comments
    New car factories in Austin and Berlin have been losing billions of dollars, CEO says in interview

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/teslas-new-factories-are-gigantic-money-furnaces-elon-musk-says-11655935191?mod=mw_more_headlines

    I think they are trying to hide losts in crypto, and blame it on factories. I believe their bitcoin is worth at least 1/2B less than last quarter. Is Tesla an auto maker or crypto hedge fund?

    I wonder if electric cars are viable in large scale long-term.
    After various subsidies are gone. There may not be enough lithium and stuff to electrify the world. Or enough electric supply.

    https://www.volkswagenag.com/en/news/stories/2020/03/lithium-mining-what-you-should-know-about-the-contentious-issue.html

    There's plenty of lithium available to be mined, it may get marginally more expensive as less easily accessible sources get exploited, but the fact that it is going to be done on a much larger scale than it used to provides opportunities for economies of
    scale.

    The electricity supply isn't a problem. There's room for all the solar cells we could possibly need, and you can charge up your electric car while the sun is shining and drive it around after the sun has gone down. Solar cells generate electricity more
    cheaply that burning fossil carbon.

    https://www.consumeraffairs.com/solar-energy/solar-vs-fossil-fuels.html

    "Electricity from fossil fuels costs between 5 and 17 cents per kilowatt-hour. Solar energy costs average between 3 cents and 6 cents per kilowatt-hour and are trending down, according to the National Renewable Energy Laboratory."

    People may have to burn a lot of coal to charge cars.

    They might, if they were silly enough to insist on buying really expensive electricity. The Australian electricity generating industy has been driving Australian politicians nuts by insisting on investing only in wind and solar generation for years now.
    The politicians want to keep the coal-mining industry on-side (so that they keep on paying for election advertising) but the electricity generating businesses aren't interested.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun Jul 3 16:53:46 2022
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:13:19 PM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
    The Wall Street Journal
    Tesla’s new factories are ‘gigantic money furnaces,’ Elon Musk says Published: June 22, 2022 at 5:59 p.m. ET
    By Rebecca Elliott
    comments
    New car factories in Austin and Berlin have been losing billions of dollars, CEO says in interview

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/teslas-new-factories-are-gigantic-money-furnaces-elon-musk-says-11655935191?mod=mw_more_headlines
    I think they are trying to hide losts in crypto, and blame it on factories. I believe their bitcoin is worth at least 1/2B less than last quarter. Is Tesla an auto maker or crypto hedge fund?

    Ed is off by 60M.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesla-loses-440m-elon-musks-123412837.html

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com on Sun Jul 3 17:45:51 2022
    On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 1:05:02 PM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:13:13 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
    The Wall Street Journal
    Tesla’s new factories are ‘gigantic money furnaces,’ Elon Musk says >> Published: June 22, 2022 at 5:59 p.m. ET
    By Rebecca Elliott
    comments
    New car factories in Austin and Berlin have been losing billions of dollars, CEO says in interview

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/teslas-new-factories-are-gigantic-money-furnaces-elon-musk-says-11655935191?mod=mw_more_headlines

    I think they are trying to hide losts in crypto, and blame it on factories. I believe their bitcoin is worth at least 1/2B less than last quarter. Is Tesla an auto maker or crypto hedge fund?

    I wonder if electric cars are viable in large scale long-term. After
    various subsidies are gone. There may not be enough lithium and stuff
    to electrify the world. Or enough electric supply.

    As if John Larkin could work out how much lithium is out there waiting to be mined. Nobody who knows what they are talking about expects it to be hard to dig up more of it.

    People may have to burn a lot of coal to charge cars.

    Only if they want to waste money. Solar cells generate electricity appreciably more cheaply that does burning coal in a coal-fired power station, and electric cars doesn't seem to mind only being charged when the sun is shining. Wind turbines also
    generate electricity more cheaply than coal-fired power stations, which seems to be why the Australian electricity generating firms are shutting down their coal fired power stations and investing heavily in solar farms and wind farms. They've been a bit
    slower to invest in building up the grid to ship the solar power around and in grid scale battery storage, but they seem to be ramping that up too.

    The Australian venture capitalists are planning on building huge solar farms to generate hydrogen by electrolysis, which they will then liquefy and ship out in very well insulated tanker ships.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Mon Jul 4 04:29:56 2022
    On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 02:45:54 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 1:05:02 PM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:13:13 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
    The Wall Street Journal
    Tesla’s new factories are ‘gigantic money furnaces,’ Elon Musk says
    Published: June 22, 2022 at 5:59 p.m. ET
    By Rebecca Elliott
    comments
    New car factories in Austin and Berlin have been losing billions of dollars, CEO says in interview

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/teslas-new-factories-are-gigantic-money-furnaces-elon-musk-says-11655935191?mod=mw_more_headlines

    I think they are trying to hide losts in crypto, and blame it on factories. I believe their bitcoin is worth at least 1/2B less than last quarter. Is Tesla an auto maker or crypto hedge fund?

    I wonder if electric cars are viable in large scale long-term. After various subsidies are gone. There may not be enough lithium and stuff
    to electrify the world. Or enough electric supply.
    As if John Larkin could work out how much lithium is out there waiting to be mined. Nobody who knows what they are talking about expects it to be hard to dig up more of it.
    People may have to burn a lot of coal to charge cars.
    Only if they want to waste money. Solar cells generate electricity appreciably more cheaply that does burning coal in a coal-fired power station, and electric cars doesn't seem to mind only being charged when the sun is shining. Wind turbines also
    generate electricity more cheaply than coal-fired power stations, which seems to be why the Australian electricity generating firms are shutting down their coal fired power stations and investing heavily in solar farms and wind farms. They've been a bit
    slower to invest in building up the grid to ship the solar power around and in grid scale battery storage, but they seem to be ramping that up too.

    The Australian venture capitalists are planning on building huge solar farms to generate hydrogen by electrolysis, which they will then liquefy and ship out in very well insulated tanker ships.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    ==The Australian venture capitalists are planning on building huge solar farms to generate hydrogen by electrolysis, which they will then liquefy and ship out in very well insulated tanker ships.


    fake
    Australia has no money, no engineers
    hydrogen is an old fake, which never worked fine

    shipping anything out from Australia is just another fake to triple the price of such hydrogen

    Australia may collapse within the next 5-10 years due to global crisis, doubled price of airline tickets

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  • From Ricky@21:1/5 to a a on Mon Jul 4 05:19:14 2022
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 7:30:00 AM UTC-4, a a wrote:
    On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 02:45:54 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 1:05:02 PM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:13:13 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
    The Wall Street Journal
    Tesla’s new factories are ‘gigantic money furnaces,’ Elon Musk says
    Published: June 22, 2022 at 5:59 p.m. ET
    By Rebecca Elliott
    comments
    New car factories in Austin and Berlin have been losing billions of dollars, CEO says in interview

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/teslas-new-factories-are-gigantic-money-furnaces-elon-musk-says-11655935191?mod=mw_more_headlines

    I think they are trying to hide losts in crypto, and blame it on factories. I believe their bitcoin is worth at least 1/2B less than last quarter. Is Tesla an auto maker or crypto hedge fund?

    I wonder if electric cars are viable in large scale long-term. After various subsidies are gone. There may not be enough lithium and stuff
    to electrify the world. Or enough electric supply.
    As if John Larkin could work out how much lithium is out there waiting to be mined. Nobody who knows what they are talking about expects it to be hard to dig up more of it.
    People may have to burn a lot of coal to charge cars.
    Only if they want to waste money. Solar cells generate electricity appreciably more cheaply that does burning coal in a coal-fired power station, and electric cars doesn't seem to mind only being charged when the sun is shining. Wind turbines also
    generate electricity more cheaply than coal-fired power stations, which seems to be why the Australian electricity generating firms are shutting down their coal fired power stations and investing heavily in solar farms and wind farms. They've been a bit
    slower to invest in building up the grid to ship the solar power around and in grid scale battery storage, but they seem to be ramping that up too.

    The Australian venture capitalists are planning on building huge solar farms to generate hydrogen by electrolysis, which they will then liquefy and ship out in very well insulated tanker ships.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    ==The Australian venture capitalists are planning on building huge solar farms to generate hydrogen by electrolysis, which they will then liquefy and ship out in very well insulated tanker ships.


    fake
    Australia has no money, no engineers
    hydrogen is an old fake, which never worked fine

    shipping anything out from Australia is just another fake to triple the price of such hydrogen

    Australia may collapse within the next 5-10 years due to global crisis, doubled price of airline tickets

    I had not paid much attention to this a a person until now. Clearly a troll. The question is, a new troll, or an old troll with a new name?

    --

    Rick C.

    - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Ricky on Mon Jul 4 05:37:57 2022
    On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 14:19:18 UTC+2, Ricky wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 7:30:00 AM UTC-4, a a wrote:
    On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 02:45:54 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 1:05:02 PM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:13:13 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
    The Wall Street Journal
    Tesla’s new factories are ‘gigantic money furnaces,’ Elon Musk says
    Published: June 22, 2022 at 5:59 p.m. ET
    By Rebecca Elliott
    comments
    New car factories in Austin and Berlin have been losing billions of dollars, CEO says in interview

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/teslas-new-factories-are-gigantic-money-furnaces-elon-musk-says-11655935191?mod=mw_more_headlines

    I think they are trying to hide losts in crypto, and blame it on factories. I believe their bitcoin is worth at least 1/2B less than last quarter. Is Tesla an auto maker or crypto hedge fund?

    I wonder if electric cars are viable in large scale long-term. After various subsidies are gone. There may not be enough lithium and stuff to electrify the world. Or enough electric supply.
    As if John Larkin could work out how much lithium is out there waiting to be mined. Nobody who knows what they are talking about expects it to be hard to dig up more of it.
    People may have to burn a lot of coal to charge cars.
    Only if they want to waste money. Solar cells generate electricity appreciably more cheaply that does burning coal in a coal-fired power station, and electric cars doesn't seem to mind only being charged when the sun is shining. Wind turbines also
    generate electricity more cheaply than coal-fired power stations, which seems to be why the Australian electricity generating firms are shutting down their coal fired power stations and investing heavily in solar farms and wind farms. They've been a bit
    slower to invest in building up the grid to ship the solar power around and in grid scale battery storage, but they seem to be ramping that up too.

    The Australian venture capitalists are planning on building huge solar farms to generate hydrogen by electrolysis, which they will then liquefy and ship out in very well insulated tanker ships.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    ==The Australian venture capitalists are planning on building huge solar farms to generate hydrogen by electrolysis, which they will then liquefy and ship out in very well insulated tanker ships.


    fake
    Australia has no money, no engineers
    hydrogen is an old fake, which never worked fine

    shipping anything out from Australia is just another fake to triple the price of such hydrogen

    Australia may collapse within the next 5-10 years due to global crisis, doubled price of airline tickets

    - Tesla referral code

    are you idiot ?

    Yesla is 50% down from the peak

    https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/tsla?mod=mw_quote_recentlyviewed

    and Melon is bancrupt

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Mon Jul 4 06:40:17 2022
    On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 15:32:03 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:30:00 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 02:45:54 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 1:05:02 PM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:13:13 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
    The Wall Street Journal
    Tesla’s new factories are ‘gigantic money furnaces,’ Elon Musk says
    Published: June 22, 2022 at 5:59 p.m. ET
    By Rebecca Elliott
    comments
    New car factories in Austin and Berlin have been losing billions of dollars, CEO says in interview

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/teslas-new-factories-are-gigantic-money-furnaces-elon-musk-says-11655935191?mod=mw_more_headlines

    I think they are trying to hide losts in crypto, and blame it on factories. I believe their bitcoin is worth at least 1/2B less than last quarter. Is Tesla an auto maker or crypto hedge fund?

    I wonder if electric cars are viable in large scale long-term. After various subsidies are gone. There may not be enough lithium and stuff to electrify the world. Or enough electric supply.

    As if John Larkin could work out how much lithium is out there waiting to be mined. Nobody who knows what they are talking about expects it to be hard to dig up more of it.

    People may have to burn a lot of coal to charge cars.
    Only if they want to waste money. Solar cells generate electricity appreciably more cheaply that does burning coal in a coal-fired power station, and electric cars doesn't seem to mind only being charged when the sun is shining. Wind turbines also
    generate electricity more cheaply than coal-fired power stations, which seems to be why the Australian electricity generating firms are shutting down their coal fired power stations and investing heavily in solar farms and wind farms. They've been a bit
    slower to invest in building up the grid to ship the solar power around and in grid scale battery storage, but they seem to be ramping that up too.

    The Australian venture capitalists are planning on building huge solar farms to generate hydrogen by electrolysis, which they will then liquefy and ship out in very well insulated tanker ships.

    fake

    A a does like crying "fake". He seems to be a clueless moron in the tradition of Skybuck Flying, Flyguy and John Doe.
    Australia has no money, no engineers
    More lunatic lies.
    hydrogen is an old fake, which never worked fine
    It's never been a particularly popular fuel - it's energy density isn't high, and it forms explosive mixtures with air over wide range of concentrations - but if you have enough sense to recognise that dumping even more CO2 into the atmosphere is a bad
    idea (more sense than a a has ) it does become attractive.
    shipping anything out from Australia is just another fake to triple the price of such hydrogen
    Really? Do show us how you worked this out. Liquified natural gas from Australia does seem to be internationally competitive.

    Australia may collapse within the next 5-10 years due to global crisis, doubled price of airline tickets.

    Why would doubling the price of airline tickets lead to Australia's financial collapse? They've dropped dramatically - in real terms - over my life time, and the Australian economy hasn't boomed in the same proportion over that period. My father ended
    up flying around the world once ever two years through the 1950's and through most of the 1960's, essentially in the service of the Australian pulp and paper industry which did okay (in part thanks to his inventions). These days we make lots of money out
    of shipping iron ore to China, and the Australian engineers that helped that to happen are now ready to move on top more trendy work.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    Australia is dead horse
    go away ,. go away
    since time runs out fast

    no future for Australia, no hope, no money, no business, no tourists,
    no scientists, no researchers, no engineers
    low population

    Australia is dead horse

    airline ticket prices to Australia doubled this year
    \so no interest to fly from Europe do Australia

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to a a on Mon Jul 4 06:31:59 2022
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:30:00 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 02:45:54 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 1:05:02 PM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:13:13 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
    The Wall Street Journal
    Tesla’s new factories are ‘gigantic money furnaces,’ Elon Musk says
    Published: June 22, 2022 at 5:59 p.m. ET
    By Rebecca Elliott
    comments
    New car factories in Austin and Berlin have been losing billions of dollars, CEO says in interview

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/teslas-new-factories-are-gigantic-money-furnaces-elon-musk-says-11655935191?mod=mw_more_headlines

    I think they are trying to hide losts in crypto, and blame it on factories. I believe their bitcoin is worth at least 1/2B less than last quarter. Is Tesla an auto maker or crypto hedge fund?

    I wonder if electric cars are viable in large scale long-term. After various subsidies are gone. There may not be enough lithium and stuff
    to electrify the world. Or enough electric supply.

    As if John Larkin could work out how much lithium is out there waiting to be mined. Nobody who knows what they are talking about expects it to be hard to dig up more of it.

    People may have to burn a lot of coal to charge cars.
    Only if they want to waste money. Solar cells generate electricity appreciably more cheaply that does burning coal in a coal-fired power station, and electric cars doesn't seem to mind only being charged when the sun is shining. Wind turbines also
    generate electricity more cheaply than coal-fired power stations, which seems to be why the Australian electricity generating firms are shutting down their coal fired power stations and investing heavily in solar farms and wind farms. They've been a bit
    slower to invest in building up the grid to ship the solar power around and in grid scale battery storage, but they seem to be ramping that up too.

    The Australian venture capitalists are planning on building huge solar farms to generate hydrogen by electrolysis, which they will then liquefy and ship out in very well insulated tanker ships.

    fake

    A a does like crying "fake". He seems to be a clueless moron in the tradition of Skybuck Flying, Flyguy and John Doe.

    Australia has no money, no engineers

    More lunatic lies.

    hydrogen is an old fake, which never worked fine

    It's never been a particularly popular fuel - it's energy density isn't high, and it forms explosive mixtures with air over wide range of concentrations - but if you have enough sense to recognise that dumping even more CO2 into the atmosphere is a bad
    idea (more sense than a a has ) it does become attractive.

    shipping anything out from Australia is just another fake to triple the price of such hydrogen

    Really? Do show us how you worked this out. Liquified natural gas from Australia does seem to be internationally competitive.

    Australia may collapse within the next 5-10 years due to global crisis, doubled price of airline tickets.

    Why would doubling the price of airline tickets lead to Australia's financial collapse? They've dropped dramatically - in real terms - over my life time, and the Australian economy hasn't boomed in the same proportion over that period. My father ended up
    flying around the world once ever two years through the 1950's and through most of the 1960's, essentially in the service of the Australian pulp and paper industry which did okay (in part thanks to his inventions). These days we make lots of money out
    of shipping iron ore to China, and the Australian engineers that helped that to happen are now ready to move on top more trendy work.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to a a on Mon Jul 4 06:55:05 2022
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 11:40:20 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 15:32:03 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 9:30:00 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 02:45:54 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 1:05:02 PM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:13:13 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 11:50:23 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:

    Australia is dead horse

    It's country - a continent actually - and no kind of animal, dead or alive.

    go away ,. go away

    Take your own advice.

    since time runs out fast

    A a's brains dibbled out his nose even faster.

    no future for Australia, no hope, no money, no business, no tourists, no scientists, no researchers, no engineers low population

    None that a a can detect. He doesn't seem to have much grasp of reality.

    Australia is dead horse

    A strange way to describe a continent.

    airline ticket prices to Australia doubled this year

    So what?

    \so no interest to fly from Europe do Australia

    I just flew to Europe and back - left on the 17th May, got back on the 29th June. All of the planes seemed to be full. A a seems to be just as addicted to broadcasting nonsense as ever. Repeated nonsense is still nonsense.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bertrand Sindri@21:1/5 to Ricky on Mon Jul 4 15:11:04 2022
    Ricky <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

    I had not paid much attention to this a a person until now. Clearly
    a troll. The question is, a new troll, or an old troll with a new
    name?

    Given the vacuous nature of the posts by "a a", exhibiting a lack of
    reasoning skills and lack of intelligence on the same level as our
    existing troll John Doe, I have pinned "a a" as being John Doe's nym
    shift that it is always worried about.

    Therefore I believe it to be "old troll with a new name" where "old
    troll" is John Doe.


    PS - trimming your quoted matter down makes for much easier reading.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Bertrand Sindri on Mon Jul 4 14:47:56 2022
    On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 17:11:11 UTC+2, Bertrand Sindri wrote:
    Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:

    I had not paid much attention to this a a person until now. Clearly
    a troll. The question is, a new troll, or an old troll with a new
    name?
    Given the vacuous nature of the posts by "a a", exhibiting a lack of reasoning skills and lack of intelligence on the same level as our
    existing troll John Doe, I have pinned "a a" as being John Doe's nym
    shift that it is always worried about.

    Therefore I believe it to be "old troll with a new name" where "old
    troll" is John Doe.


    PS - trimming your quoted matter down makes for much easier reading.
    my dear friends,
    I really like your delusiones and day treaming
    but
    Melon is really down with business

    July 4, 2022
    Tesla halts production at Gigafactory in Berlin July 4, 2022
    Tesla halts production at Gigafactory in Berlin www.devhardware.com/tesla-halts-production-at-gigafactory-in-berlin/

    Tesla to shut down production at Gigafactory Berlin to upgrade … https://electrek.co › 2022 › 07 › 04 › tesla-shut-down...

    5 godz. temu · Now Tesla is looking for Gigafactory Berlin to catch up, and it will reportedly shut down the factory for about two weeks in order to upgrade it. Germany’s Bild reported the news today: According...
    Elon Musk halts Tesla assembly line in struggling Berlin … https://fortune.com › 2022 › 07 › 04 › tesla-germany-elon...

    9 godz. temu · Tesla's new factory near Berlin will reportedly have to be shutdown for two weeks as the company undertakes improvements that should boost output. ... (and closed) on July …
    Musk forced to halt Tesla assembly line in struggling … https://finance.yahoo.com › news › musk-forced-halt...

    04.07.2022 · German tabloid Bild reported on Monday the factory has been struggling with a trio of persistent problems: longer-than-anticipated manufacturing time, a lack of skilled workers …
    Tesla to shutdown Giga Berlin July 11-22 for plant upgrades, third ... https://driveteslacanada.ca › news › tesla-shutdown...

    04.07.2022 · Tesla will be taking Giga Berlin offline next week to make some upgrades to the plant that will increase production efficiency and help lead to a third production shift being …
    Tesla halts production at Gigafactory in Berlin
    https://www.devhardware.com › tesla-halts-production-at-gigafactory-in-berlin

    04.07.2022 · July 4, 2022 Ward Herrera The Gigafactory is said to be shutting down production in Berlin in order to upgrade the Tesla factory and add a shift to achieve higher production …
    Tesla’s Berlin Factory Pauses Production For 2 Weeks Due To Issues https://screenrant.com › tesla-berlin-factory-pauses-production-2-weeks-issues

    2 godz. temu · Tesla will reportedly halt production at its Berlin factory for two weeks due to multiple problems. The report comes just three and a half months after Tesla's German …
    Tesla Giga Berlin to undergo upgrades from July 11 to 22: report https://www.teslarati.com › tesla-giga-berlin-upgrades-july-11-22-details

    31 min temu · The improvements to Giga Berlin are expected to boost the manufacturing plant’s output, allowing Tesla to close in on its target production of 500,000 vehicles per year for its …
    Tesla to shut down production at Gigafactory Berlin to upgrade … https://canadanewsmedia.ca › tesla-to-shut-down...

    04.07.2022 · July 4, 2022 By Megan Johnson Tesla is reportedly going to shut down production at Gigafactory Berlin in order to upgrade the factory and add a shift to achieve higher production …
    Tesla Pauses Plants After Shaky Quarter | Time
    https://time.com › 6193629 › tesla-berlin-shanghai

    3 godz. temu · On Monday, TeslaMag said the carmaker’s plant near Berlin will take a two-week break starting July 11. The German site reported that Tesla aims to roughly double its …

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com on Mon Jul 4 17:23:16 2022
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:05:02 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

    I wonder if electric cars are viable in large scale long-term.

    Or homo sapiens, for that matter. Long term :== we're all dead, and our way of life
    defunct.

    After various subsidies are gone. There may not be enough lithium and stuff
    to electrify the world. Or enough electric supply.

    Oh, that's clearly nonsense; a new technology usually takes forever to develop without 'subsidies' of some sort; Volta's battery of 1800 didn't really take off
    very fast; Ohm did his studies decades later without useful cells.
    There's a planet-size bunch of 'lithium and stuff' with
    more kinds of utility than was apparent to our ancestors, and our descedants will
    scoff at the thought that we were running out of THAT resource.
    Forests, croplands, ecosystems: we really MIGHT lose some of
    them. John Larkin is just afraid for the wrong reasons.

    People may have to burn a lot of coal to charge cars.

    As long as they get the CO2 gas recovered and converted to stable rock,
    so greenhouse effect recovers, that's not a worry. We don't need
    coal deposits to stay buried, nor are we running short on oxygen.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 4 18:07:35 2022
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 10:23:19 AM UTC+10, whit3rd wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:05:02 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

    <snip>

    We don't need coal deposits to stay buried, nor are we running short on oxygen.

    Converting all the fossil carbon we've dug up into CO2 has lowered the atmospheric oxygen concentration by a very small, but definitely measurable amount.

    http://www.columbia.edu/cu/21stC/issue-2.1/broecker.htm

    There's no immediate prospect that we will run out, but the climate change denial crew may yet work out how to engineer an even bigger ecological disaster.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jasen Betts@21:1/5 to Ricky on Tue Jul 5 07:49:56 2022
    On 2022-07-04, Ricky <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 7:30:00 AM UTC-4, a a wrote:
    On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 02:45:54 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

    fake
    Australia has no money, no engineers
    hydrogen is an old fake, which never worked fine

    shipping anything out from Australia is just another fake to triple the price of such hydrogen

    Australia may collapse within the next 5-10 years due to global crisis, doubled price of airline tickets

    I had not paid much attention to this a a person until now. Clearly a troll. The question is, a new troll, or an old troll with a new name?

    AA is a cypto shill, emitting lots of bad financial advice, so it's
    new behaviour, probably a new troll, or else a long forgotten one
    returning.

    --
    Jasen.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to Jasen Betts on Tue Jul 5 03:34:40 2022
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 10:00:59 UTC+2, Jasen Betts wrote:
    On 2022-07-04, Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Monday, July 4, 2022 at 7:30:00 AM UTC-4, a a wrote:
    On Monday, 4 July 2022 at 02:45:54 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

    fake
    Australia has no money, no engineers
    hydrogen is an old fake, which never worked fine

    shipping anything out from Australia is just another fake to triple the price of such hydrogen

    Australia may collapse within the next 5-10 years due to global crisis, doubled price of airline tickets



    --
    Jasen.
    Jasen is idiot troll

    Russian Ruble already collapsed -10%

    Global crisis is on

    Latest News
    All Times Eastern


    6:27a
    Picks As inflation sits at a 40-year high, the personal savings rate in America has fallen to its lowest level since 2008. Here’s the age group feeling most ‘uncomfortable’ about their savings now.
    6:21a
    Tesla stock slips

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/as-inflation-sits-at-a-40-year-high-the-personal-savings-rate-in-america-has-fallen-to-its-lowest-level-since-2008-heres-the-age-group-feeling-most-uncomfortable-about-their-savings-now-01656519946?mod=mw_latestnews

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Tue Jul 5 03:30:59 2022
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 03:07:39 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 10:23:19 AM UTC+10, whit3rd wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:05:02 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    <snip>
    We don't need coal deposits to stay buried, nor are we running short on oxygen.
    Converting all the fossil carbon we've dug up into CO2 has lowered the atmospheric oxygen concentration by a very small, but definitely measurable amount.

    http://www.columbia.edu/cu/21stC/issue-2.1/broecker.htm

    There's no immediate prospect that we will run out, but the climate change denial crew may yet work out how to engineer an even bigger ecological disaster.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    --Converting all the fossil carbon we've dug up into CO2 has lowered the atmospheric oxygen concentration by a very small, but definitely measurable amount.

    fake

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to a a on Tue Jul 5 04:54:08 2022
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 8:31:02 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 03:07:39 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 10:23:19 AM UTC+10, whit3rd wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:05:02 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    <snip>
    We don't need coal deposits to stay buried, nor are we running short on oxygen.
    Converting all the fossil carbon we've dug up into CO2 has lowered the atmospheric oxygen concentration by a very small, but definitely measurable amount.

    http://www.columbia.edu/cu/21stC/issue-2.1/broecker.htm

    There's no immediate prospect that we will run out, but the climate change denial crew may yet work out how to engineer an even bigger ecological disaster.

    --Converting all the fossil carbon we've dug up into CO2 has lowered the atmospheric oxygen concentration by a very small, but definitely measurable amount.

    fake

    So the link to the Columbia University web-site is a fake? Do tell us how you think I could have faked that.

    You can't inform us, but you may yet be able to entertain us.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Tue Jul 5 05:56:15 2022
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 13:54:11 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 8:31:02 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 03:07:39 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 10:23:19 AM UTC+10, whit3rd wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:05:02 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    <snip>
    We don't need coal deposits to stay buried, nor are we running short on oxygen.
    Converting all the fossil carbon we've dug up into CO2 has lowered the atmospheric oxygen concentration by a very small, but definitely measurable amount.

    http://www.columbia.edu/cu/21stC/issue-2.1/broecker.htm

    There's no immediate prospect that we will run out, but the climate change denial crew may yet work out how to engineer an even bigger ecological disaster.

    --Converting all the fossil carbon we've dug up into CO2 has lowered the atmospheric oxygen concentration by a very small, but definitely measurable amount.

    fake
    So the link to the Columbia University web-site is a fake? Do tell us how you think I could have faked that.

    You can't inform us, but you may yet be able to entertain us.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    Columbia University is populated by the global agenda, globalists like my professor, like me, like Prof. Sachs

    I studied global university systems at CU
    Japanese-=American studies at Princeton University ( prof. Rice - promoted to Secretary of State)
    Interactive Communication at MIT (Prof. Negroponte - promoted to Secretary of State)
    Mobile Education at Shibuya University, Tokyo

    Carbon Agenda is all no-science, political agenda, invented by Al Gore and his team like Prof. Mann and UNFCC
    to force Europe, Asia, China to cut industrial production by 90%

    40 years ago I worked for the R&D Project by US EPA ( Environment Protection Agency) to reduce emissions of pollutants, exhaust from industrial chimneys in Europe. Project was great success but it was not my intention to close 10,000 industrial plants in
    Europe, Asia, China to reduce carbon emissions.

    -We all love Carbon, we all love CO2

    -CO2 is welcome
    -CO2 is Plant Food
    -Plants are Animal Food
    -Animals are Human Food

    -More CO2 more Human Food
    -to end the world hunger



    Water (H2O) in the gaseous state is the only greenhouse gas due to its high heat of phase shift fluid - gas (water > steam)

    https://sci.electronics.design.narkive.com/eMVDUFoy/we-all-love-carbon-we-all-love-co2

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to a a on Tue Jul 5 06:36:36 2022
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 10:56:19 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 13:54:11 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 8:31:02 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 03:07:39 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 10:23:19 AM UTC+10, whit3rd wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:05:02 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    <snip>
    We don't need coal deposits to stay buried, nor are we running short on oxygen.
    Converting all the fossil carbon we've dug up into CO2 has lowered the atmospheric oxygen concentration by a very small, but definitely measurable amount.

    http://www.columbia.edu/cu/21stC/issue-2.1/broecker.htm

    There's no immediate prospect that we will run out, but the climate change denial crew may yet work out how to engineer an even bigger ecological disaster.

    --Converting all the fossil carbon we've dug up into CO2 has lowered the atmospheric oxygen concentration by a very small, but definitely measurable amount.

    fake
    So the link to the Columbia University web-site is a fake? Do tell us how you think I could have faked that.

    You can't inform us, but you may yet be able to entertain us.

    Columbia University is populated by the global agenda, globalists like my professor, like me, like Prof. Sachs.

    You don't sound much like Jeffrey Sachs - he makes sense, while you post nonsense.

    I studied global university systems at CU
    Japanese-=American studies at Princeton University ( prof. Rice - promoted to Secretary of State)
    Interactive Communication at MIT (Prof. Negroponte - promoted to Secretary of State)
    Mobile Education at Shibuya University, Tokyo

    And clearly failed to learn anything at all worth passing on.

    Carbon Agenda is all no-science, political agenda, invented by Al Gore and his team like Prof. Mann and UNFCC to force Europe, Asia, China to cut industrial production by 90% .

    You can generate all the power you need from solar cells and wind turbines - giving up burning fossil carbon as fuel doesn't prevent you from sustaining and increasing industrial production. Al Gore didn't invent anything - he just popularised what
    science had worked out by around 1990, and Michael Mann's "hockey stick" results have now been replicated about two dozen times using a a very wide selection of climate proxies going back much further than he did in 1998 - the Greenland and Antarctic ice
    core data went back much further and some sedimentary data seems to have got back about 20 million years.

    As fatuous assertions go, this outdoes John Doe and Flyguy. You've made it down to comic fatuity, with ear-to-ear egg on your prat-fallen face.

    40 years ago I worked for the R&D Project by US EPA ( Environment Protection Agency) to reduce emissions of pollutants, exhaust from industrial chimneys in Europe.

    As the kind of idiot who reduced emissions by stopping anything happening under the chimney's. There are other ways of getting rid of offensive emissions, but you've got to know what you are doing before you can get rid of only those components that are
    actually damaging.

    Project was great success but it was not my intention to close 10,000 industrial plants in Europe, Asia, China to reduce carbon emissions.

    Closing industrial plants wouldn't per se reduce carbon emissions. Getting the power to keep them running without burning fossil carbon as fuel would do the trick - and in recent years it would also offer cheaper power - but clowns like you haven't
    noticed.

    -We all love Carbon, we all love CO2

    "We" being gullible idiots like you.

    <snipped moronic sloganeering>

    Water (H2O) in the gaseous state is the only greenhouse gas due to its high heat of phase shift fluid - gas (water > steam)

    What a load of total nonsense. "Greenhouse gases" - and water vapour is one of a number of them, with CO2 and methane being well-known examples of others - have relatively strong near-infra-red absorbtion and emission spectra. Oxygen and nitrogen don't.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with their latent heat of vapourisation. Only a clown could imagine otherwise, and you really are a clown.

    <snipped link to rubbish website>

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Tue Jul 5 06:50:45 2022
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 15:36:40 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 10:56:19 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 13:54:11 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 8:31:02 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 03:07:39 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 10:23:19 AM UTC+10, whit3rd wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:05:02 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    <snip>
    We don't need coal deposits to stay buried, nor are we running short on oxygen.
    Converting all the fossil carbon we've dug up into CO2 has lowered the atmospheric oxygen concentration by a very small, but definitely measurable amount.

    http://www.columbia.edu/cu/21stC/issue-2.1/broecker.htm

    There's no immediate prospect that we will run out, but the climate change denial crew may yet work out how to engineer an even bigger ecological disaster.

    --Converting all the fossil carbon we've dug up into CO2 has lowered the atmospheric oxygen concentration by a very small, but definitely measurable amount.

    fake
    So the link to the Columbia University web-site is a fake? Do tell us how you think I could have faked that.

    You can't inform us, but you may yet be able to entertain us.

    Columbia University is populated by the global agenda, globalists like my professor, like me, like Prof. Sachs.

    You don't sound much like Jeffrey Sachs - he makes sense, while you post nonsense.
    I studied global university systems at CU
    Japanese-=American studies at Princeton University ( prof. Rice - promoted to Secretary of State)
    Interactive Communication at MIT (Prof. Negroponte - promoted to Secretary of State)
    Mobile Education at Shibuya University, Tokyo
    And clearly failed to learn anything at all worth passing on.

    Carbon Agenda is all no-science, political agenda, invented by Al Gore and his team like Prof. Mann and UNFCC to force Europe, Asia, China to cut industrial production by 90% .

    You can generate all the power you need from solar cells and wind turbines - giving up burning fossil carbon as fuel doesn't prevent you from sustaining and increasing industrial production. Al Gore didn't invent anything - he just popularised what
    science had worked out by around 1990, and Michael Mann's "hockey stick" results have now been replicated about two dozen times using a a very wide selection of climate proxies going back much further than he did in 1998 - the Greenland and Antarctic ice
    core data went back much further and some sedimentary data seems to have got back about 20 million years.

    As fatuous assertions go, this outdoes John Doe and Flyguy. You've made it down to comic fatuity, with ear-to-ear egg on your prat-fallen face.
    40 years ago I worked for the R&D Project by US EPA ( Environment Protection Agency) to reduce emissions of pollutants, exhaust from industrial chimneys in Europe.
    As the kind of idiot who reduced emissions by stopping anything happening under the chimney's. There are other ways of getting rid of offensive emissions, but you've got to know what you are doing before you can get rid of only those components that
    are actually damaging.
    Project was great success but it was not my intention to close 10,000 industrial plants in Europe, Asia, China to reduce carbon emissions.
    Closing industrial plants wouldn't per se reduce carbon emissions. Getting the power to keep them running without burning fossil carbon as fuel would do the trick - and in recent years it would also offer cheaper power - but clowns like you haven't
    noticed.
    -We all love Carbon, we all love CO2
    "We" being gullible idiots like you.

    <snipped moronic sloganeering>
    Water (H2O) in the gaseous state is the only greenhouse gas due to its high heat of phase shift fluid - gas (water > steam)
    What a load of total nonsense. "Greenhouse gases" - and water vapour is one of a number of them, with CO2 and methane being well-known examples of others - have relatively strong near-infra-red absorbtion and emission spectra. Oxygen and nitrogen don't.


    This has absolutely nothing to do with their latent heat of vapourisation. Only a clown could imagine otherwise, and you really are a clown.

    <snipped link to rubbish website>

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    -You can generate all the power you need from solar cells and wind turbines -

    nope
    30 years you could not since Gemrna manufacturers of solar panels, visited by me, offered solars at $1/1W
    making prices prohibitive for individual or industrial consumers

    Zero carbon emission agenda promoted by US exactly boosted production of solar panels in China at pocket prices:
    and the prices has fallen from $1.0/1W in Europe to $0.5/1W in China down to $0.3/1W today

    Turning China into No.1 Global Solar Factory

    I am aware, Putin and Kremlin injected $Bs into pockets of so called eco pseudoscientists, pseudo-researchers to boost sales of natural gas to Europe, described as clean fuel

    But today, following the money cut offs by Putin, Kremlin, mouths of Ts of carbon fakers got shut.

    So We all love Carbon, we all love CO2

    =-CO2 is welcome
    -CO2 is Plant Food
    -Plants are Animal Food
    -Animals are Human Food

    -More CO2 more Human Food
    -to end the world hunger



    --Water (H2O) in the gaseous state is the only greenhouse gas due to its high heat of phase shift fluid - gas (water > steam)

    --https://sci.electronics.design.narkive.com/eMVDUFoy/we-all-love-carbon-we-all-love-co2

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to a a on Tue Jul 5 10:11:28 2022
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 5:56:19 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 13:54:11 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

    So the link to the Columbia University web-site is a fake? Do tell us how you think I could have faked that.

    Columbia University is populated by the global agenda, globalists like my professor, like me, like Prof. Sachs

    "populated by" students and faculty, I can understand. But, not "the global agenda''
    which seems to suggest that a spherical object has a few topics of interest. Speaking
    of topics, it doesn't begin to explain any kind of fakery.

    Carbon Agenda is all no-science, political agenda, invented by ...

    Meaningless drivel, just a word salad suggesting some kind of conspiracy with dark (and incomprehensible) aggressive motives. Rather, consider that a worldwide problem
    suggests the utility of international cooperation as a solution, so the United Nations
    (with its known fixed agenda of nations acting in unity) is a natural candidate for
    the leadership and coordination of effort.

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 5 10:27:58 2022
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 19:11:32 UTC+2, whit3rd wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 5:56:19 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 13:54:11 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

    So the link to the Columbia University web-site is a fake? Do tell us how you think I could have faked that.
    Columbia University is populated by the global agenda, globalists like my professor, like me, like Prof. Sachs
    "populated by" students and faculty, I can understand. But, not "the global agenda''
    which seems to suggest that a spherical object has a few topics of interest. Speaking
    of topics, it doesn't begin to explain any kind of fakery.

    Carbon Agenda is all no-science, political agenda, invented by ...

    Meaningless drivel, just a word salad suggesting some kind of conspiracy with dark (and incomprehensible) aggressive motives. Rather, consider that a worldwide problem
    suggests the utility of international cooperation as a solution, so the United Nations
    (with its known fixed agenda of nations acting in unity) is a natural candidate for
    the leadership and coordination of effort.
    UN is today no science, no money, no influence political agenda,
    having nothing to do with science, research, Global Warming, Climate Changes

    Visit one day SIDS New York , UN HQ ( Small Island Developing States)
    or UNFCC Bonn
    or UN Geneva, UN Wien

    We worked really hard to shift Ts of Global Warming fakers to Climate Changes tautology and succeeded.

    No more money from Putin, Kremlin into pockets of Climate fakers, promoting sales of natural gas in Europe.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to a a on Tue Jul 5 17:03:29 2022
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 11:50:48 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 15:36:40 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 10:56:19 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 13:54:11 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 8:31:02 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 03:07:39 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 10:23:19 AM UTC+10, whit3rd wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:05:02 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

    <snip>

    -You can generate all the power you need from solar cells and wind turbines -

    nope

    A a doesn't agree, but he can't say why.

    30 years you could not since German manufacturers of solar panels, visited by me, offered solar cells at $1/1W
    making prices prohibitive for individual or industrial consumers.

    That was then. About twenty years ago, Germany invested hugely in manufacturing solar cells in ten times the volume that anybody had before, and halved the until price.

    Around 2013 a University of New South Wales development pushed up solar cell efficiency from about 19% to 23% with a cheap process, and the Chinese commercialised it in a large manufacturing plant, on ten times the scale of of the German investment,
    whence your $0.30 per Watt today.

    If you actually build a solar farm the additional costs come closer to pushing that up to about a US dollar per Watt.

    Zero carbon emission agenda promoted by US exactly boosted production of solar panels in China at pocket prices:
    and the prices has fallen from $1.0/1W in Europe to $0.5/1W in China down to $0.3/1W today

    Turning China into No.1 Global Solar Factory

    They had to make a large capital investment to set the up up the really high volume manufacturing. By the time we get around to getting most of our power from solar cells, there's going to have to be another factor of ten scale-up in manufacturing volume
    which can be expected to halve the unit cost of the solar cells per Watt once again.

    I am aware, Putin and Kremlin injected $Bs into pockets of so called eco pseudoscientists, pseudo-researchers to boost sales of natural gas to Europe, described as clean fuel.

    It's cleaner that coal, but not all that clean. You get about half the CO2 emission per kilowatt hour than get from burning coal - that's simple chemistry.

    But today, following the money cut offs by Putin, Kremlin, mouths of Ts of carbon fakers got shut.

    A a doesn't have clue.

    <snipped the usual recycled rubbish>

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Bertrand Sindri@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Wed Jul 6 00:48:02 2022
    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 11:50:48 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 15:36:40 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 10:56:19 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 13:54:11 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 8:31:02 PM UTC+10, a a wrote:
    On Tuesday, 5 July 2022 at 03:07:39 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote: >> > > > > > On Tuesday, July 5, 2022 at 10:23:19 AM UTC+10, whit3rd wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:05:02 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

    <snip>

    -You can generate all the power you need from solar cells and wind turbines -

    nope

    A a doesn't agree, but he can't say why.

    And to which other resident group troll have you made nearly the
    identical remark, over and over, for what seems like forever?

    This is why I attribute "a a" as being a John Doe nym-shift.

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