• OT: Supreme Court strikes down NY's unconstitutionally restrictive gun

    From Flyguy@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 23 08:05:10 2022
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Thu Jun 23 08:45:16 2022
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.

    The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem to
    fancy it.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Thu Jun 23 15:49:30 2022
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    Off topic troll...

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    Subject: OT: Supreme Court strikes down NY's unconstitutionally restrictive
    gun law
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    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 23 15:51:07 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
    <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
    (http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
    08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET (**) has been 64.5% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
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    The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
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    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 23 Jun 2022 15:49:30 GMT in message-id <eY%sK.733$LfE9.414@usenetxs.com>.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Thu Jun 23 11:55:30 2022
    On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.

    NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.

    The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem
    to fancy it.

    The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
    want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
    better armed than anyone else is.

    This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
    black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
    Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

    Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

    Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Thu Jun 23 11:27:10 2022
    On 6/23/2022 11:05 AM, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    How Flyguy pictures visiting NYC:

    <https://youtu.be/XlBFaKnQ1PU?t=219>

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to soar2morrow@yahoo.com on Thu Jun 23 11:25:12 2022
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
    <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
    NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
    The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't
    seem to fancy it.
    The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
    against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
    want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
    better armed than anyone else is.

    This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
    black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
    Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

    Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

    Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

    One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to
    follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.


    SED is ruined. Pity.

    --

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    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Thu Jun 23 14:43:35 2022
    On 6/23/2022 2:25 PM, John Larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
    <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
    NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US. >>>> The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't
    seem to fancy it.
    The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect >>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
    want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
    better armed than anyone else is.

    This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
    black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
    Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

    Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

    Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

    One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to
    follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.


    SED is ruined. Pity.


    Yeah, it got filled up with off-topic political posts from
    frothy-mouthed raving leftists. All the transgender teenagers coming
    here to SHOUT about their CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS all day really ruined
    it, lol

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  • From Flyguy@21:1/5 to bitrex on Thu Jun 23 11:15:37 2022
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
    NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
    The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem
    to fancy it.
    The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
    want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way better armed than anyone else is.

    This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
    black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
    Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

    Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

    Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

    One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to
    follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Thu Jun 23 14:49:07 2022
    On 6/23/2022 2:25 PM, John Larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
    <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
    NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US. >>>> The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't
    seem to fancy it.
    The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect >>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
    want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
    better armed than anyone else is.

    This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
    black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
    Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

    Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

    Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

    One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to
    follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.


    SED is ruined. Pity.


    Incidentally I can't wait til Lord Elon finishes buying Twitter and lets
    10 million John Does and Flyguys run wild all over that site and run it
    into the ground, also. It's going to be MAGALORIOUS!

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Thu Jun 23 15:07:05 2022
    On 6/23/2022 2:15 PM, Flyguy wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
    NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
    The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't seem
    to fancy it.
    The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect
    against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
    want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
    better armed than anyone else is.

    This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
    black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
    Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

    Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

    Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

    One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to
    follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.

    I think any rational e.g. transgender person in a "red state" would be
    armed to the teeth these days, Uzi, 50 cal desert eagle, grenade
    launcher, you name it. There are wingnuts around.

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  • From Flyguy@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Thu Jun 23 13:53:50 2022
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 12:25:23 PM UTC-6, John Larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
    <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
    NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US. >> > The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't
    seem to fancy it.
    The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect >> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
    want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way >> better armed than anyone else is.

    This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
    black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh! >> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

    Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

    Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

    One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to
    follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.
    SED is ruined. Pity.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

    Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Thu Jun 23 18:10:54 2022
    On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:

    SED is ruined. Pity.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. >> Francis Bacon

    Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.

    JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
    America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 23 23:58:49 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    John Dope stated the following in message-id
    <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me>
    (http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164904625100) posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022
    08:01:09 -0000 (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope's post ratio
    to USENET (**) has been 64.6% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope has posted at
    least 2251 articles to USENET. Of which 176 have been pure insults and
    1279 have been John Dope "troll format" postings.

    The Troll Doe stated the following in message-id
    <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless Troll Doe has continued to post incorrectly
    formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 23 Jun 2022 23:49:55 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t92u72$igk$15@dont-email.me>).

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that John Doe does not even follow
    the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    HoIgjE/mlWZi

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Fri Jun 24 00:02:41 2022
    Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for
    self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.

    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    That New York law was in effect for over 100 years, so that's a major
    shift (at least for New York).

    Counsel is questioned about the need for self-defense being greater in
    rural areas than in densely populated urban areas. In response to the
    "high crime area" need for self-defense, counsel justified restricting
    guns there, by saying "there are more police officers". But of course a
    high crime area is a high crime area.

    An argument I listened for but didn't hear... What does density of
    population have to do with anything? Just because there are lots of people
    in New York doesn't mean there are more people at a bar mitzvah, or a
    mall, or any other gathering.

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Fri Jun 24 00:05:37 2022
    There's been lots of noise lately, but there is always something.

    Anybody can filter properly labeled off-topic posts, but John doesn't
    because John posts off-topic from time to time...



    --

    John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
    <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
    NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
    The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't
    seem to fancy it.
    The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect >>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
    want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
    better armed than anyone else is.

    This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
    black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
    Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

    Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

    Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

    One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to
    follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.


    SED is ruined. Pity.


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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to soar2morrow@yahoo.com on Thu Jun 23 18:25:07 2022
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 13:53:50 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
    <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 12:25:23 PM UTC-6, John Larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
    <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
    NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US. >> >> > The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't
    seem to fancy it.
    The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect >> >> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
    want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way >> >> better armed than anyone else is.

    This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
    black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh! >> >> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

    Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

    Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

    One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to
    follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.
    SED is ruined. Pity.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. >> Francis Bacon

    Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.

    Cite?

    My topic is electronics, and I always help people with that. I have
    never called anyone stupid, or insulted anyone when discussing an
    objective issue.

    But I don't engage in these endless insult-fests, which I know have
    driven away some good engineers.

    I suppose I might find another forum, a moderated one, or just give up
    public discussion of electronics.

    Why do you post to s.e.d?



    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to bitrex on Thu Jun 23 18:28:10 2022
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:10:54 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:

    SED is ruined. Pity.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. >>> Francis Bacon

    Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.

    JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks >America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.

    Compute the fraction of posts here that have anything to do with
    electronic design. The on-topic fraction has degraded to near zero in
    the last few years. The hundreds-long threads are always ritual insult
    fests by the same - what did Mad Magazine call them - The Usual Gang
    Of Idiots.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Thu Jun 23 18:56:45 2022
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:28:21 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:10:54 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

    On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:

    SED is ruined. Pity.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
    Francis Bacon

    Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.

    JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks >America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.
    Compute the fraction of posts here that have anything to do with
    electronic design. The on-topic fraction has degraded to near zero in
    the last few years. The hundreds-long threads are always ritual insult
    fests by the same - what did Mad Magazine call them - The Usual Gang
    Of Idiots.

    OK, electrical question: The yellow connectors are 400V 24A, but they don't make any bigger one. Is it safe to use for 30A briefly? Perhaps with more wires as heat sink? 3xAWG18(30A) can fit in the blue one (15A). I can add more wires and using the
    yellow one.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/144578327967

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Thu Jun 23 22:02:52 2022
    On 6/23/2022 9:28 PM, John Larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:10:54 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:

    SED is ruined. Pity.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
    Francis Bacon

    Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.

    JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
    America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.

    Compute the fraction of posts here that have anything to do with
    electronic design. The on-topic fraction has degraded to near zero in
    the last few years. The hundreds-long threads are always ritual insult
    fests by the same - what did Mad Magazine call them - The Usual Gang
    Of Idiots.


    I'm still designing electronics if it makes you feel any better but I've
    been too busy working lately to contribute much, sorry 'bout that.

    But I'm not close to retirement age by a long shot and by the look of
    things with the market etc, I'm gonna need all the working years I can
    get...

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to edward.ming.lee@gmail.com on Thu Jun 23 19:56:16 2022
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:56:45 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:28:21 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:10:54 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

    On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:

    SED is ruined. Pity.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
    Francis Bacon

    Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.

    JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
    America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.
    Compute the fraction of posts here that have anything to do with
    electronic design. The on-topic fraction has degraded to near zero in
    the last few years. The hundreds-long threads are always ritual insult
    fests by the same - what did Mad Magazine call them - The Usual Gang
    Of Idiots.

    OK, electrical question: The yellow connectors are 400V 24A, but they don't make any bigger one. Is it safe to use for 30A briefly? Perhaps with more wires as heat sink? 3xAWG18(30A) can fit in the blue one (15A). I can add more wires and using the
    yellow one.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/144578327967

    Sure. Use the yellow one, for a minute or so maybe. Fat wire will heat
    sink the connection.

    This board has fastons for 48 volts at 25 amps from a nearby power
    supply, but we're using two faston lugs and two wires for +48 and
    another pair for ground. The wire resistance helps to equalize the
    currents, and there will be lots of air.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/bc2dg6njz1wi2hb/P939A_top.jpg?raw=1

    Air flow makes a huge difference to connector heating.



    --

    Anybody can count to one.

    - Robert Widlar

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to bitrex on Thu Jun 23 20:01:06 2022
    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 15:07:05 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 6/23/2022 2:15 PM, Flyguy wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
    NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US. >>>> The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't
    seem to fancy it.
    The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect >>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
    want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
    better armed than anyone else is.

    This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
    black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
    Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

    Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

    Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

    One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to
    follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.

    I think any rational e.g. transgender person in a "red state" would be
    armed to the teeth these days, Uzi, 50 cal desert eagle, grenade
    launcher, you name it. There are wingnuts around.

    The risk of a well-behaved trans being attacked is probably below 1
    PPM/year. Riding a bicycle is far more dangerous.

    There are about 40 shootings in Chicago on an average weekend. Nobody
    much cares.



    --

    Anybody can count to one.

    - Robert Widlar

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  • From Flyguy@21:1/5 to bitrex on Thu Jun 23 20:55:46 2022
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:11:01 PM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:

    SED is ruined. Pity.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
    Francis Bacon

    Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.
    JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.

    Hardly. The SC decision today means that sanity has a stronghold still. But Lyin' Biden's antics gives one concern. The saving grace is a midterm election in four short months.

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  • From Flyguy@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Jun 23 20:58:26 2022
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:05:42 PM UTC-6, John Doe wrote:
    There's been lots of noise lately, but there is always something.

    Anybody can filter properly labeled off-topic posts, but John doesn't because John posts off-topic from time to time...



    --
    John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 23 Jun 2022 11:15:37 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
    <soar2...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
    NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US. >>> > The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't
    seem to fancy it.
    The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect >>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also >>> want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way >>> better armed than anyone else is.

    This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting >>> black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh! >>> Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

    Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

    Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

    One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading. If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to
    follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.


    SED is ruined. Pity.


    Oh, COME ON, JOHN! You have on more than one occasion indulged in off-topic discussions, that YOU initiated. I am not going to waste my time dredging them up.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Fri Jun 24 03:07:15 2022
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:15:45 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
    NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US.
    The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't
    seem to fancy it.
    The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
    want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way better armed than anyone else is.

    This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh! Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

    Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

    Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

    One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading.

    Flyguy can understand any document he reads as supporting his chosen point of view. He doesn't really understand that more intelligent readers can actually understand what the document was designed to say.

    If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but
    that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.

    Flyguy wants the everybody to understand the US Constitution in exactly the same way he does - not merely badly, but badly in a way that fits his demented delusions.

    There's nothing all that special about the US Constitution. It's an old moderate enlightenment document, which means that it wasn't properly thought out when it was first written, and it is clearly in need of extensive revision.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Fri Jun 24 10:21:08 2022
    On 6/24/2022 6:07 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 8:15:45 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 11:45 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5:05:18 PM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    ...requiring applicants to prove that they have a need for self-protection that exceeds that of the general population. Given the runaway crime in NY that is an impossibly high bar to clear.
    https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/20-843_7j80.pdf

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_New_York_City#/media/File:MURDERS_IN_NEW_YORK_CITY_BY_YEAR.png

    Flyguy is as far out of touch with reality as ever. Murders are up a bit at 488 last year, but they are way down from the peak of 2245 in 1990.
    NYC doesn't even rank in the top 50 of most dangerous cities in the US. >>>> The situation isn't great and currently does seem to be getting worse, but "runaway crime" is one more of Flyguy's fatuous exaggerations.

    Giving clowns like Flyguy the right to carry guns and shoot innocent bystanders by accident isn't going to help, no matter how much the gun-manufacturing lobby likes the idea. More intelligent policing might help but New York's politicians don't
    seem to fancy it.
    The Republicunt's arguments that personal firearm rights were to protect >>> against a tyrannical government made more sense when they didn't also
    want the State and every two-bit police dept. across the land to be way
    better armed than anyone else is.

    This happened because they noticed police were way better at shooting
    black people. So they couldn't help but worship them and were like "Oh!
    Zee State ist zumgut at shooting zee untermenschen! Heil Hitler!"

    Police: "Citizen! Papiere, bitte!"

    Republicunt: "Oh ja right away mein Herr, I live to serve!"

    One word that won't pass you fucker's lips is the "Constitution." NY's law was CLEARLY unconstitutional by ANY reading.

    Flyguy can understand any document he reads as supporting his chosen point of view. He doesn't really understand that more intelligent readers can actually understand what the document was designed to say.

    If you don't like how the Constitution is written there IS a procedure for changing it. Baring that, the DUTY of the Court is to follow the Constitution. You fuckers just want to interpret the Constitution whatever way the wind is blowing. Sorry, but
    that DOESN'T pass Constitutional muster.

    Flyguy wants the everybody to understand the US Constitution in exactly the same way he does - not merely badly, but badly in a way that fits his demented delusions.

    There's nothing all that special about the US Constitution. It's an old moderate enlightenment document, which means that it wasn't properly thought out when it was first written, and it is clearly in need of extensive revision.


    The current Supreme Court's abilities to "interpret the Constitution" in
    a rational way are so well-regarded that its popularity is at an
    historic low:

    <https://news.gallup.com/poll/394103/confidence-supreme-court-sinks-historic-low.aspx>

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Fri Jun 24 10:41:16 2022
    On 6/23/2022 11:55 PM, Flyguy wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:11:01 PM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:

    SED is ruined. Pity.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
    Francis Bacon

    Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.
    JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks
    America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.

    Hardly. The SC decision today means that sanity has a stronghold still. But Lyin' Biden's antics gives one concern. The saving grace is a midterm election in four short months.

    More astute observers than Flyguy would notice that the trade-off the
    "sane" SC is handing out for knocking down restrictive gun legislation
    at the state level, is meanwhile ensuring police at all levels have as
    much immunity as possible from your objections if they decide to simply
    ignore what the Constitution says about your rights.

    That is to say the 2nd Amendment is meaningless without the 4th, and the
    4th was pretty threadbare to begin with, and gets more so every time
    _fascist_ right-wingers in the judicial system or otherwise get a hold
    of it.

    <https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/supreme-court-raises-barrier-to-suing-law-enforcement>

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Fri Jun 24 11:44:18 2022
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 6:56:52 PM UTC-7, Ed Lee wrote:

    OK, electrical question: The yellow connectors are 400V 24A, but they don't make any bigger one. Is it safe to use for 30A briefly? Perhaps with more wires as heat sink? 3xAWG18(30A) can fit in the blue one (15A).

    Sure, a surge or ten won't hurt it. Even a 20A circuit breaker will take 30A for a moment.
    The problem arises when elevated temperature, or arcing during connect/disconnect,
    or just mechanical integrity (weakened springs) degrades performance in some way.
    If you really want long-term passage of higher current, consider connectors in parallel,
    just as you would if a multipin connector had to supply higher current than its contacts
    were rated for.

    You can't reliably crimp a fatter wire than carries 24A continuously, is my assumption of the
    basis for a 24A rating.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Sun Jun 26 07:51:30 2022
    On Friday, June 24, 2022 at 5:55:53 AM UTC+2, Flyguy wrote:
    On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 4:11:01 PM UTC-6, bitrex wrote:
    On 6/23/2022 4:53 PM, Flyguy wrote:

    SED is ruined. Pity.

    Yeah, and you have put more than one bullet into the corpse.
    JL thinks that SED has been "ruined" regularly, meanwhile Flyguy thinks that
    America has been "ruined" since 1865. Tough times.

    Hardly. The SC decision today means that sanity has a stronghold still.

    Flyguy has strange ideas about what might constitute sanity. The idea that he might recognise sanity if he ran into it is implausible. His identifying one more right-wing lunacy from the US Surpreme Court as "sanity" makes that point pretty clear.

    But Joe Biden's antics gives one concern. The saving grace is a midterm election in four short months.

    Joe Biden doesn't seem to be insane, so he isn't behaving the way Flyguy would like him to. Flyguy has absolute faith that the rest of America is not only just as demented as he is, but demented in the same kind of way. Quite a lot American do seem do
    seem to be demented - some of them voted for Donald Trump - but imagining that most of them are that far gone is unreasonably pessimistic.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Tue Jun 28 04:23:02 2022
    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:cd19e6cb- d3ed-4846-ba08-506fc0ce632fn@googlegroups.com:

    Flyguy has strange ideas about what might constitute sanity.

    NYC made laws in the '80s where one had to have the gun, disassembled,
    in their trunk, and no ammo is allowed to be there.

    Also carrying concealed was always illegal in all states until a few
    started this stupid shit.

    In Colorado, it was legal to carry, IF it was exposed and obvious,
    absolutely not concealed. However, no one did so except on their
    ranches, etc. Nobody did so in public places in cities, etc. It was
    an invitation to get harassed over it.

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