Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.
The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are up 50%.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia
so badly, why not produce more oil?
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of American taxpayers.
Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms.
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory.
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are >> up 50%.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia
so badly, why not produce more oil?
It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible.
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of >> American taxpayers.
That's unlikely to be true.
They know Ukraine can't win.
They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the men
Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms. >>
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies.
On 6/17/2022 11:31 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory.
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote:
On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are
up 50%.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia
so badly, why not produce more oil?
It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible.
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of
American taxpayers.
That's unlikely to be true.
They know Ukraine can't win.
They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the
the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine.Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current
Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms.
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies.
level of intensity I think.
If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I
don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least
a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather
than escalate.
He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia
Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured
right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul >>> position is what it is.
I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul
position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the
Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's >>> buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag
this one out to Nov 2024 no prob.
You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the factories -
I hope we don't bother, though it's likely a forlorn hope. The US
shouldn't be in the business of arming anyone, and with 700+ military
bases worldwide is about the last place that should be blathering on
about the dangers of expansionism.
Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time.
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount
of "justice"
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote:men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory.
On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are
up 50%.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia
so badly, why not produce more oil?
It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible.
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of
American taxpayers.
That's unlikely to be true.
They know Ukraine can't win.
They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the
the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine.Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current
Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms.
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies.
level of intensity I think.
If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I
don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least
a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather
than escalate.
He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia
Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured
right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul
position is what it is.
I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul
position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the
Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's
buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag
this one out to Nov 2024 no prob.
You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the factories -
Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time.
On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory.
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are
up 50%.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia
so badly, why not produce more oil?
It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible.
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of
American taxpayers.
That's unlikely to be true.
They know Ukraine can't win.
They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the
Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms.
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies.
Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current
level of intensity I think.
If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I
don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least
a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather
than escalate.
Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured
right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul position is what it is.
I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul
position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the
Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag
this one out to Nov 2024 no prob.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory.
On 6/17/2022 11:31 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote:
On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are
up 50%.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia
so badly, why not produce more oil?
It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible.
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of
American taxpayers.
That's unlikely to be true.
They know Ukraine can't win.
They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the
- the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine.Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current
Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms.
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies.
level of intensity I think.
If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I
don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least >>>> a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather >>>> than escalate.
He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia
Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured
right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul >>>> position is what it is.
I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul
position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the
Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's >>>> buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag
this one out to Nov 2024 no prob.
You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the factories
I hope we don't bother, though it's likely a forlorn hope. The US
shouldn't be in the business of arming anyone, and with 700+ military
bases worldwide is about the last place that should be blathering on
about the dangers of expansionism.
Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time.
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount
of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st amendment to the Constitution.
And questioning the honesty of elections is a worthy and patriotic
thing to do. We know that there is cheating.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory.
On 6/17/2022 11:31 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote:
On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are
up 50%.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia
so badly, why not produce more oil?
It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible.
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of
American taxpayers.
That's unlikely to be true.
They know Ukraine can't win.
They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the
- the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine.Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current
Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms.
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies.
level of intensity I think.
If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I
don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least >>>> a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather >>>> than escalate.
He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia
Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured
right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul >>>> position is what it is.
I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul
position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the
Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's >>>> buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag
this one out to Nov 2024 no prob.
You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the factories
I hope we don't bother, though it's likely a forlorn hope. The US
shouldn't be in the business of arming anyone, and with 700+ military
bases worldwide is about the last place that should be blathering on
about the dangers of expansionism.
Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time.
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount
of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st amendment to the Constitution.
And questioning the honesty of elections is a worthy and patriotic
thing to do. We know that there is cheating.
On 6/17/2022 11:59 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 6/17/2022 11:31 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote:
On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are
up 50%.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia
so badly, why not produce more oil?
It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible.
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of
American taxpayers.
That's unlikely to be true.
They know Ukraine can't win.
They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the
factories - the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine.Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current
Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms.
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies.
level of intensity I think.
If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I >>>>> don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least >>>>> a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather >>>>> than escalate.
He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia
Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured >>>>> right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul >>>>> position is what it is.
I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul
position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the
Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's >>>>> buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag >>>>> this one out to Nov 2024 no prob.
You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the
I hope we don't bother, though it's likely a forlorn hope. The US
shouldn't be in the business of arming anyone, and with 700+ military
bases worldwide is about the last place that should be blathering on
about the dangers of expansionism.
Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time.
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount >>> of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st
amendment to the Constitution.
And questioning the honesty of elections is a worthy and patriotic
thing to do. We know that there is cheating.
"I gave 'em a sword. And they stuck it in, and they twisted it with
relish. And I guess if I had been in their position, I'd have done the
same thing." said Nixon.
The Democrats are clearly enjoying twisting this sword. And if it had
been a Democrat president who did the same thing, the Republicans
would've done the same thing.
But at the end of the day I think they're wasting their time, the
hearings will likely amount to nothing of substance happening and in the >meantime they're probably going to lose Congress and probably the
Presidency in epic style.
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory.
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are
up 50%.ssia
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Ru
so badly, why not produce more oil?
It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible.
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expenseof
American taxpayers.
That's unlikely to be true.
They know Ukraine can't win.
They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the men
Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms.
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies.
On 6/17/2022 11:59 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 6/17/2022 11:31 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote:
On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are
up 50%.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia
so badly, why not produce more oil?
It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible.
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of
American taxpayers.
That's unlikely to be true.
They know Ukraine can't win.
They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the
factories - the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine.Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current
Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms.
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies.
level of intensity I think.
If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I >>>>> don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least >>>>> a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather >>>>> than escalate.
He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia
Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured >>>>> right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul >>>>> position is what it is.
I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul
position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the
Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's >>>>> buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag >>>>> this one out to Nov 2024 no prob.
You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the
I hope we don't bother, though it's likely a forlorn hope. The US
shouldn't be in the business of arming anyone, and with 700+ military
bases worldwide is about the last place that should be blathering on
about the dangers of expansionism.
Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time.
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount >>> of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st
amendment to the Constitution.
And questioning the honesty of elections is a worthy and patriotic
thing to do. We know that there is cheating.
<https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/17/politics/donald-trump-accountability-jan-6-hearings-analysis/index.html>
"January 6 committee wrestles with the same unsolvable question about
Trump -- how to hold him to accountable"
Of course they're struggling on how to "hold him accountable", this is >America there's no way to hold a billionaire accountable for anything.
And the Democrats helped build that reality as much as anyone, I don't
shed too many tears that they now find themselves at the mercy of the
rules they helped write down.
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote:men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory.
On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are
up 50%.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia
so badly, why not produce more oil?
It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible.
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of
American taxpayers.
That's unlikely to be true.
They know Ukraine can't win.
They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the
the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine.Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms.
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies.
Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current
level of intensity I think.
If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, IHe may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia
don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least
a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather than escalate.
Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured
right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul position is what it is.
I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the
Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag
this one out to Nov 2024 no prob.
You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the factories -
Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time.--You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount
of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st amendment to the Constitution.
On Friday, 17 June 2022 at 17:31:21 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory.
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote:
On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are
up 50%.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia
so badly, why not produce more oil?
It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible.
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of
American taxpayers.
That's unlikely to be true.
They know Ukraine can't win.
They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the
the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine.He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in RussiaRussia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current
Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms.
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies.
level of intensity I think.
If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I
don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least
a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather
than escalate.
Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured
right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul >> > position is what it is.
I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul
position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the
Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's >> > buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag
this one out to Nov 2024 no prob.
You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the factories -
--You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas
Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
You seem to forget that US's economy is virtual, based on Wall Street Cassinos
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount
of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st
amendment to the Constitution.
Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal >persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get
away with it again.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance >> >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount >> >of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st
amendment to the Constitution.
Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal >persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get
away with it again.
If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance >> >> >in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount >> >> >of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st
amendment to the Constitution.
Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal
persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get
away with it again.
If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?
Where did the 'executed' idea come from?
picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's another >cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your
'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog.
What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose
of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president
rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily
include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault
Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed
by' any reading of the Constitution.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >> >
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me >> >> >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount
of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st >> >> amendment to the Constitution.
Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal
persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get
away with it again.
If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?
Where did the 'executed' idea come from?You might consider reading the thread.
It's YOUR cherry, and you
picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's anotherYou might consider reading the thread.
cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your
'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog.
What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose
of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president
rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily
include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault
Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed
by' any reading of the Constitution.
He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first
amendment to the Constitution too.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory.
On 6/17/2022 11:31 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote:
On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are
up 50%.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia
so badly, why not produce more oil?
It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible.
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of
American taxpayers.
That's unlikely to be true.
They know Ukraine can't win.
They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing the
factories - the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine.Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current
Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms.
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies.
level of intensity I think.
If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I
don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least >>> a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather >>> than escalate.
He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia
Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured
right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul >>> position is what it is.
I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul
position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the
Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's >>> buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag >>> this one out to Nov 2024 no prob.
You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the
I hope we don't bother, though it's likely a forlorn hope. The US >shouldn't be in the business of arming anyone, and with 700+ military >bases worldwide is about the last place that should be blathering on
about the dangers of expansionism.
Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time.
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount >of "justice".
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st amendment to the Constitution.
And questioning the honesty of elections is a worthy and patriotic thing to do. We know that there is cheating.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >> >
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me >> >> >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount
of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st >> >> amendment to the Constitution.
Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal
persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get
away with it again.
If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?
Where did the 'executed' idea come from?You might consider reading the thread.
It's YOUR cherry, and you
picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's anotherYou might consider reading the thread.
cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your
'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog.
What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose
of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president
rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily
include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault
Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed
by' any reading of the Constitution.
He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first
amendment to the Constitution too.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:19:55 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:the men and weapons it is losing. So far the Ukraine has survived, and has chewed up a lot of Russian equipment and manpower in the process. Merely surviving such an attack is a kind of victory.
On 6/17/2022 11:59 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
On 6/17/2022 11:31 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 4:59:49 PM UTC+2, bitrex wrote:
On 6/17/2022 7:29 AM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 3:03:21 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
Europe is still sucking on Russian oil pipes, and Russia's oil revenues are
up 50%.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians hate Russia
so badly, why not produce more oil?
It isn't easy, and can't happen overnight. The US has started producing more oil, largely by fracking oil deposits that were previously inaccessible.
Because... Washington politicians just want to enrich the military-industrial
complex, its investors, and its bribe takers (themselves), at the expense of
American taxpayers.
That's unlikely to be true.
They know Ukraine can't win.
They don't. It may take a while before the western democracies can ship enough of the right kind of weapons to the Ukraine to let the Ukranians expel the Russians and maybe even recover Crimea, but Russia is going to have a hard time replacing
factories - the first production will go where it can do the most good, knocking out Russian weapons in the Ukraine.Russia has the conventional stocks to last for years at the current >>>>> level of intensity I think.
Reducing our oil production makes that obvious. They just want to sell arms.
Their cheerleading for Ukraine is a BIG LIE.
Says John Doe who specialises in posting huge lies.
If they feel really pressed they can use tactical nuclear weapons, I >>>>> don't have many doubts that Putin strongly believes he can use at least
a few of those and Europe, and the US and Europe will back down rather >>>>> than escalate.
He may be that silly. I don't think that either Europe or the US would be silly enough to let him get away with it. The "escalation" might be the destruction of a single high value target in Russia
Hasn't happened so I don't think Russia feels particularly pressured >>>>> right now. They're taking losses but seem to have accepted the long-haul
position is what it is.
I think Europe and the US are less well-equipped for the long-haul >>>>> position, the US economy is headed straight for the shitter and the >>>>> Biden admin's chances of re-election are about 0% right now, and Putin's
buddy Trump's chances in 2024 are looking pretty good. Putin can drag >>>>> this one out to Nov 2024 no prob.
You seem to forget that Russia's economy is small - about the size of Texas - if the US and Europe get serious they can swamp Russia. My guess is that this already getting underway. The German talk of re-armament is all about scaling up the
I hope we don't bother, though it's likely a forlorn hope. The US
shouldn't be in the business of arming anyone, and with 700+ military >>> bases worldwide is about the last place that should be blathering on
about the dangers of expansionism.
Trump's chances of staying out of prison until 2024 don't look good. With any luck he'll have been executed for treason by then. The likes of John Doe will talk about faked evidence, but you can't fool all that many people al the time.
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance >>> in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount >>> of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st
amendment to the Constitution.
And questioning the honesty of elections is a worthy and patriotic
thing to do. We know that there is cheating.
"I gave 'em a sword. And they stuck it in, and they twisted it with >relish. And I guess if I had been in their position, I'd have done the >same thing." said Nixon.
The Democrats are clearly enjoying twisting this sword. And if it had
been a Democrat president who did the same thing, the Republicans
would've done the same thing.
But at the end of the day I think they're wasting their time, the
hearings will likely amount to nothing of substance happening and in the >meantime they're probably going to lose Congress and probably the >Presidency in epic style.
Reruns of Young Sheldon are getting more views.
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 7:46:29 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:You might consider reading the thread.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >> >> >
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me >> >> >> >fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount
of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st >> >> >> amendment to the Constitution.
Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal
persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get
away with it again.
If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?
Where did the 'executed' idea come from?
It's YOUR cherry, and you
picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's anotherYou might consider reading the thread.
cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your
'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog.
Yeah, I looked at the message you replied to, not the one before that.
What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose
of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president
rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily
include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault
Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed
by' any reading of the Constitution.
He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first
amendment to the Constitution too.
What he told the crowd was not so short that you can abridge it to 'protest >peacefully' with accuracy. First amendment means he can't be
muzzled before a speech, and he wasn't. It doesn't mean
that voicing breaking-and-entering and/or assault-and-battery
instructions is without consequence. You might reread the first amendment >to the Constitution.
On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 00:43:44 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 7:46:29 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:You might consider reading the thread.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount
of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st
amendment to the Constitution.
Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal
persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get
away with it again.
If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?
Where did the 'executed' idea come from?
It's YOUR cherry, and you
picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's anotherYou might consider reading the thread.
cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your
'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog.
Yeah, I looked at the message you replied to, not the one before that.
What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose
of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president
rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily
include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault
Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed
by' any reading of the Constitution.
He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first
amendment to the Constitution too.
What he told the crowd was not so short that you can abridge it to 'protest >peacefully' with accuracy. First amendment means he can't be
muzzled before a speech, and he wasn't. It doesn't mean
that voicing breaking-and-entering and/or assault-and-battery
instructions is without consequence. You might reread the first amendment >to the Constitution.
He didn't tell anyone to enter a nominally closed government building.
A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building to take some selfies.
That's not insurrection and certainly not treason.
November should be great fun.
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On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:47:06 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 00:43:44 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 7:46:29 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:You might consider reading the thread.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount
of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st
amendment to the Constitution.
Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal
persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get
away with it again.
If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?
Where did the 'executed' idea come from?
It's YOUR cherry, and you
picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's anotherYou might consider reading the thread.
cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your
'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog.
Yeah, I looked at the message you replied to, not the one before that.
What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose
of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president
rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily
include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault
Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed
by' any reading of the Constitution.
He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first
amendment to the Constitution too.
What he told the crowd was not so short that you can abridge it to 'protest >> >peacefully' with accuracy. First amendment means he can't be
muzzled before a speech, and he wasn't. It doesn't mean
that voicing breaking-and-entering and/or assault-and-battery
instructions is without consequence. You might reread the first amendment >> >to the Constitution.
He didn't tell anyone to enter a nominally closed government building.
Perhaps not in so many words. But they would have had to achieve what he seems to wanted them to.
A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building to take some selfies.
That's not what he wanted them to achieve, He wanted the result of the 2020 presidential election set aside, and that looks exactly like treason to me.
That's not insurrection and certainly not treason.
It was most definitely insurrection. The aim was treasonable. Ineffectual treason is still treason. Think about Guy Fawkes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes
November should be great fun.
Probably early enough to see Trump indicted. Perhaps a bit early to see him executed.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.
The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...
On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 00:43:44 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 7:46:29 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount
of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st
amendment to the Constitution.
Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal
persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get
away with it again.
If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?
What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose
of riot being plausibly a treasonous act...
He told the crowd to protest peacefully.
What he told the crowd was not so short that you can abridge it to 'protest >peacefully' with accuracy. First amendment means he can't be
muzzled before a speech, and he wasn't. It doesn't mean
that voicing breaking-and-entering and/or assault-and-battery
instructions is without consequence. You might reread the first amendment >to the Constitution.
He didn't tell anyone to enter a nominally closed government building.
A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building to take some selfies.
That's not insurrection and certainly not treason.
Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 3:47:06 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jun 2022 00:43:44 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 7:46:29 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:It's YOUR cherry, and you picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'? That's another cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread. Your 'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog.
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into senility/irrelevance
in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the end of his days would suit me
fine. Unfortunately I think we're unlikely even to get that small amount
of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by the 1st
amendment to the Constitution.
Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to non-criminal
persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking too often to get >> >> >> >away with it again.
If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?
You might consider reading the thread.
Yeah, I looked at the message you replied to, not the one before that. >> >
What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose
of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president
rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could easily >> >> >include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or assault
Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly allowed
by' any reading of the Constitution.
He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first
amendment to the Constitution too.
What he told the crowd was not so short that you can abridge it to 'protest
peacefully' with accuracy. First amendment means he can't be
muzzled before a speech, and he wasn't. It doesn't mean
that voicing breaking-and-entering and/or assault-and-battery
instructions is without consequence. You might reread the first amendment
to the Constitution.
He didn't tell anyone to enter a nominally closed government building.
Perhaps not in so many words. But they would have had to achieve what he seems to wanted them to.
A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building to take some selfies.
That's not what he wanted them to achieve, He wanted the result of the 2020 presidential election set aside, and that looks exactly like treason to me.
That's not insurrection and certainly not treason.
It was most definitely insurrection. The aim was treasonable. Ineffectual treason is still treason. Think about Guy Fawkes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes
November should be great fun.
Probably early enough to see Trump indicted. Perhaps a bit early to see him executed.
No point in discussing anything with Bill Sloman, the Australian troll.
Bozo is an incessant liar who cannot be reasoned with. Its fiction never ends.
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into
senility/irrelevance in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the
end of his days would suit me fine. Unfortunately I think
we're unlikely even to get that small amount of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by
the 1st amendment to the Constitution.
Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to
non-criminal persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking
too often to get away with it again.
If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?
What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose
of riot being plausibly a treasonous act...
He told the crowd to protest peacefully.
What he told the crowd was not so short that you can abridge it to
'protest peacefully' with accuracy. First amendment means he can't be
muzzled before a speech, and he wasn't. It doesn't mean that voicing
breaking-and-entering and/or assault-and-battery instructions is
without consequence. You might reread the first amendment to the
Constitution.
He didn't tell anyone to enter a nominally closed government building.
How do you know?
A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building to take some selfies.
That accounts for 'a few yahoos' out of hundreds.
That's not insurrection and certainly not treason.
Not your call
whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building to take some selfies.
That accounts for 'a few yahoos' out of hundreds.
None of the protesters, five of which were killed, were carrying weapons.
That's not insurrection and certainly not treason.
Not your calIt's a "common sense" call.
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians
hate Russia so badly, why not produce more oil?
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 1:26:30 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 12:36:20 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
<whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, June 17, 2022 at 9:00:01 AM UTC-7,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net>
wrote:
I'm against the death penalty, Trump relaxing into
senility/irrelevance in his bedroom at Mar-A-Lago until the
end of his days would suit me fine. Unfortunately I think
we're unlikely even to get that small amount of "justice"
Seems to me that DT did things that are explicitly allowed by
the 1st amendment to the Constitution.
Everyone with a voice or a pen does that; it isn't exclusive to
non-criminal persons. John Larkin has done his cherry-picking
too often to get away with it again.
If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?
Where did the 'executed' idea come from? It's YOUR cherry, and
you picked it from... nowhere. Why do you say 'treason'?
That's another cherry, and you didn't get it from this thread.
Your 'if' clauses are traps, not part of a reasoned dialog.
What the Donald did, was incitement to riot, IMHO. The purpose
of riot being plausibly a treasonous act (which the vice president
rightly did not participate in). The march of hundreds could
easily include an assassination, by a small team, of Pence, or
assault Congress in session, neither of which is 'explicitly
allowed by' any reading of the Constitution.
If DT should be executed for treason, what did he do?
John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t8gjse$qnf$1@dont-email.me:
If our current administration, and most of Washington politicians
hate Russia so badly, why not produce more oil?
America's reserves are full, idiot. We get millions of barrels of
oil from Canada. We do not need to produce more. There are hundreds
of certificates unused because we do not need more source stream. That
stream never stopped. We are in a GLUT. So the pump prices should be
LOWER, not higher, idiot.
The reason the pump price is high is because the oil companies are
gouging us all. Period. And that is the ONLY reason, and it is because
they are operated by ReThugLeTard assholes who are pissed that their
tax burden is going to go up, as it should.
You could not perform a proper analysis of what is going on if you
tried.
He told the crowd to protest peacefully. You might read the first
amendment to the Constitution too.
He didn't tell anyone to enter a nominally closed government
building.
A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building
to take
some selfies.
That's not insurrection and certainly not treason.
November should be great fun.
They are just tribal political power mongers trying to damage the
other tribe. That's boring, which is why there's not much real public interest.
Protest versus riot, language can slant the issue.
Weapons can be sticks, bombs, or anything in between.
If it were an attempt to overthrow our government, it wasn't, they
would have gone to the executive branch and brought a few weapons
with them...
We need John Belushi back to make SNL funny again.
He would be the
guy with the horns cannibal leftists love to talk about.
Entering
and sitting down at Nancy Pelosi's desk with his boots on the
table, he calls general Milley and starts giving him orders...
That would be funny because it's ridiculous.
January 6 was no threat to our government.
Anybody who believes it
was is nuts.
It might have felt threatening to some members of
Congress that day,
but it was not a threat to our country in any
way, shape, or form.
One REAL threat to our government and our country is the fact
Washington DC is 91+% gung ho for only one party. The Deep State
was described over 200 years ago in a London Times article on Nov
11, 1815...
"it is in this bureaucracy, Gentlemen,
that you will find the
invisible and mischievous power which thwarts the most noble
views, and prevents or weakens the effect of all the salutary
reforms which France is incessantly calling for" (quoted on
Merriam-Webster's site).
That passage appears in an item headed "Courts of Justice in
France", on page 2 of the Times for Saturday November 11, 1815. It
is a report of a speech by Jean Guillaume Hyde de Neuville.
He didn't tell anyone to enter a nominally closed government building.
A few yahoos entered an under-guarded building to take some selfies.
That's not insurrection and certainly not treason.
If it were an attempt to overthrow our government, it wasn't, they would
have gone to the executive branch and brought a few weapons with them...
January 6 was no threat to our government. Anybody who believes it was is nuts.
The Deep State was described over
200 years ago in a London Times article on Nov 11, 1815...
"it is in this bureaucracy, Gentlemen, that you will find the invisible
and mischievous power which thwarts the most noble views, and...
If it were an attempt to overthrow our government, it wasn't, they would have gone to the executive branch and brought a few weapons with them...
Anybody who thinks it was an attempt to overthrow our government is nuts.
January 6 was no threat to our government. Anybody who believes it was is nuts. It might have felt threatening to some members of Congress that day, but it was not a threat to our country in any way, shape, or form.
One REAL threat to our government and our country is the fact Washington DC is 91+% gung ho for only one party.
No point in discussing anything with Bill Sloman.
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On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 12:27:35 AM UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
No point in discussing anything with Bill Sloman.
<snipped the rest of the recycled drivel>
John Doe can't do discussion, so his opinion on whether it would be a useful exercise for anybody else can't be seen as all that helpful.
In theory might be interesting to speculate how well he comprehends his own incompetence, but he certainly acts as he thinks his demented delusions are worth posting. If he went around painting offensive nonsense on walls, he would eventually end up in
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...
The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...
The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:<snip>
And questioning the honesty of elections is a worthy and patriotic
thing to do. We know that there is cheating.
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:<snip>
And questioning the honesty of elections is a worthy and patriotic
thing to do. We know that there is cheating.
Elections have the basic budgetary heft of a softball league. "Honesty" presumes enough resources to do something.
LBJ rode a spare ballot box or two all the way to POTUS. It's an
American tradition.
It's a whole lot more important that the elections latch into state than anything else about them. When people stop believing in ballots, there
are bullets.
This is an excellent dragon to let sleep. Unless you wanna fix it, leave
it alone. When that sort of dragon wakes, it moves fast and there's a
lot of destruction.
People, ordinary people would rather cut their head off with a chainsaw
than learn measurement. We should respect their preference.
Hell, I'm barely able to engage engineers in the concepts and
application of measurement these days. I get actual resistance.
That's what the freedom of information act (FOIA) is supposed to help
with. The Deep State fights disclosure tooth and nail.
One serious, easily identifiable problem we have is the fact Washington DC
is 91+ percent for only one party. That makes federal justice impossible.
That's what the freedom of information act (FOIA) is supposed to
help with. The Deep State fights disclosure tooth and nail.
One serious, easily identifiable problem we have is the fact
Washington DC is 91+ percent for only one party. That makes
federal justice impossible.
We had the best system in the world,
there is still a chance for
redemption, but we are sinking fast.
Les Cargill <lcar...@gmail.com> wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:48:17 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:<snip>
And questioning the honesty of elections is a worthy and patriotic
thing to do. We know that there is cheating.
Elections have the basic budgetary heft of a softball league. "Honesty" presumes enough resources to do something.
LBJ rode a spare ballot box or two all the way to POTUS. It's an
American tradition.
It's a whole lot more important that the elections latch into state than anything else about them. When people stop believing in ballots, there
are bullets.
This is an excellent dragon to let sleep. Unless you wanna fix it, leave it alone. When that sort of dragon wakes, it moves fast and there's a
lot of destruction.
People, ordinary people would rather cut their head off with a chainsaw than learn measurement. We should respect their preference.
Hell, I'm barely able to engage engineers in the concepts and
application of measurement these days. I get actual resistance.
That's what the freedom of information act (FOIA) is supposed to help
with. The Deep State fights disclosure tooth and nail.
One serious, easily identifiable problem we have is the fact Washington DC is 91+ percent for only one party. That makes federal justice impossible.
We had the best system in the world, there is still a chance for redemption, but we are sinking fast.
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