• Re: Those who buy stocks the day after the S&P 500 enters a bear market

    From a a@21:1/5 to John Doe on Wed Jun 15 06:43:29 2022
    On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 15:26:42 UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
    Off topic troll...

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    Subject: Those who buy stocks the day after the S&P 500 enters a bear market
    have made an average of 22.7% in 12 months
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    Fake: no losers on Wall Street at all, Winners only

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/those-who-buy-stocks-the-day-after-the-s-p-500-enters-a-bear-market-have-made-an-average-of-22-7-in-12-months-11655224023
    John Doe
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    Money is always on topic

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    Money is always on topic

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to a a on Wed Jun 15 13:26:33 2022
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    Off topic troll...

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    Fake: no losers on Wall Street at all, Winners only

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/those-who-buy-stocks-the-day-after-the-s-p-500-enters-a-bear-market-have-made-an-average-of-22-7-in-12-months-11655224023

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  • From Ricky@21:1/5 to Bertrand Sindri on Wed Jun 15 06:57:47 2022
    On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 9:50:40 AM UTC-4, Bertrand Sindri wrote:
    a a <mant...@gmail.com> wrote:
    John Doe
    off topic troll..


    Money is always on topic

    one again

    Money is always on topic
    Nope. This group is named "sci.electronics.design". On topic for
    electronic design are postings about designing electronics. If you
    want to discuss "money" in general then find a group about money in
    general.

    While "money" indirectly relates to design (in that money constraints
    often dictate choices) a post purely about money, without being related to how that would impact a given design (of which you provided no
    electronic design at all) is **off topic**.

    Meta-discussions are also off topic.

    "You're out of order! You're out of order! The whole trial is out of order!"

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 15 14:10:16 2022
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    In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me> (http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
    12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Doe stated:

    Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
    NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
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    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
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    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
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  • From Bertrand Sindri@21:1/5 to a a on Wed Jun 15 13:50:33 2022
    a a <manta103g@gmail.com> wrote:
    John Doe
    off topic troll..


    Money is always on topic

    one again

    Money is always on topic

    Nope. This group is named "sci.electronics.design". On topic for
    electronic design are postings about designing electronics. If you
    want to discuss "money" in general then find a group about money in
    general.

    While "money" indirectly relates to design (in that money constraints
    often dictate choices) a post purely about money, without being related to
    how that would impact a given design (of which you provided no
    electronic design at all) is **off topic**.

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  • From Ricky@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 15 07:23:07 2022
    https://youtu.be/sA0glbG6c-8?t=47

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 15 07:34:35 2022
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 06:43:29 -0700 (PDT), a a <manta103g@gmail.com>
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    On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 15:26:42 UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
    Off topic troll...

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    Subject: Those who buy stocks the day after the S&P 500 enters a bear market
    have made an average of 22.7% in 12 months
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    Fake: no losers on Wall Street at all, Winners only

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/those-who-buy-stocks-the-day-after-the-s-p-500-enters-a-bear-market-have-made-an-average-of-22-7-in-12-months-11655224023
    John Doe
    off topic troll..


    Money is always on topic

    one again

    Money is always on topic

    Day trading is just a variant on gambling addiction. Obsession with
    money usually means you'll not wind up with much, or worse.

    I figure that if you design really good electronics, enough money will
    just happen.



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 15 17:19:31 2022
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    In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me> (http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
    12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Doe stated:

    Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
    NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
    USENET (**) has been 59.0% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
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    873 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
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    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to John Doe on Wed Jun 15 17:16:49 2022
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    Eddie, the Astraweb porn-sucking nym-shifting stalker is flagging
    off-topic posts with its forgery of my ID.

    Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    See also...
    John Doe <always.look_message.header> (Astraweb, Aioe.org)
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99_gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99_gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99_gmail.com>

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    Fake: no losers on Wall Street at all, Winners only

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/those-who-buy-stocks-the-day-after-the-s-p-500-enters-a-bear-market-have-made-an-average-of-22-7-in-12-months-11655224023




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  • From amdx@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Wed Jun 15 15:08:00 2022
    On 6/15/2022 9:34 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 06:43:29 -0700 (PDT), a a <manta103g@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 15:26:42 UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
    Off topic troll...

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    Fake: no losers on Wall Street at all, Winners only

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/those-who-buy-stocks-the-day-after-the-s-p-500-enters-a-bear-market-have-made-an-average-of-22-7-in-12-months-11655224023
    John Doe
    off topic troll..


    Money is always on topic

    one again

    Money is always on topic
    Day trading is just a variant on gambling addiction. Obsession with
    money usually means you'll not wind up with much, or worse.

    I figure that if you design really good electronics, enough money will
    just happen.



    But. I'm sure you agree, that you need to save and invest some for the
    time when you no longer work.
     I'm interested in the thread, after having lost about 6 years of
    spending in the last 6 months. I expect it to come up in a year or two.
    Maybe a climb after the November Election.

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to amdx on Wed Jun 15 13:31:14 2022
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 15:08:00 -0500, amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

    On 6/15/2022 9:34 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 06:43:29 -0700 (PDT), a a <manta103g@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 15:26:42 UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
    Off topic troll...

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    Fake: no losers on Wall Street at all, Winners only

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/those-who-buy-stocks-the-day-after-the-s-p-500-enters-a-bear-market-have-made-an-average-of-22-7-in-12-months-11655224023
    John Doe
    off topic troll..


    Money is always on topic

    one again

    Money is always on topic
    Day trading is just a variant on gambling addiction. Obsession with
    money usually means you'll not wind up with much, or worse.

    I figure that if you design really good electronics, enough money will
    just happen.



    But. I'm sure you agree, that you need to save and invest some for the
    time when you no longer work.

    Sure. If you design a lot of electronics, you don't have time to spend
    money.


    I'm interested in the thread, after having lost about 6 years of
    spending in the last 6 months. I expect it to come up in a year or two.
    Maybe a climb after the November Election.

    In a pure investment/ponzi system, where nothing of value is actually
    produced, some people have to lose so that other people might win.

    It's unfortunate that the morons at the Fed and the Treasury, who call themselves macroeconomists, have made savings so bad that they drove
    everyone into the stock market.
    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Wed Jun 15 13:53:47 2022
    On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 22:31:26 UTC+2, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 15:08:00 -0500, amdx <am...@knology.net> wrote:

    On 6/15/2022 9:34 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 06:43:29 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 15:26:42 UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
    Off topic troll...

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    Subject: Those who buy stocks the day after the S&P 500 enters a bear market
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    Fake: no losers on Wall Street at all, Winners only

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/those-who-buy-stocks-the-day-after-the-s-p-500-enters-a-bear-market-have-made-an-average-of-22-7-in-12-months-11655224023
    John Doe
    off topic troll..


    Money is always on topic

    one again

    Money is always on topic
    Day trading is just a variant on gambling addiction. Obsession with
    money usually means you'll not wind up with much, or worse.

    I figure that if you design really good electronics, enough money will
    just happen.



    But. I'm sure you agree, that you need to save and invest some for the >time when you no longer work.
    Sure. If you design a lot of electronics, you don't have time to spend money.
    I'm interested in the thread, after having lost about 6 years of
    spending in the last 6 months. I expect it to come up in a year or two. >Maybe a climb after the November Election.
    In a pure investment/ponzi system, where nothing of value is actually produced, some people have to lose so that other people might win.

    It's unfortunate that the morons at the Fed and the Treasury, who call themselves macroeconomists, have made savings so bad that they drove everyone into the stock market.
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    Fed lifts interest rates by the most in 28 years, anticipates rates rising to 3.8% by the end of 2023

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-lifts-rates-by-most-in-three-decades-anticipates-policy-rate-rising-to-3-8-by-end-of-2023-11655316254

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 15 14:00:42 2022
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 13:53:47 -0700 (PDT), a a <manta103g@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 22:31:26 UTC+2, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 15:08:00 -0500, amdx <am...@knology.net> wrote:

    On 6/15/2022 9:34 AM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 06:43:29 -0700 (PDT), a a <mant...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 15:26:42 UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
    Off topic troll...

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    Subject: Those who buy stocks the day after the S&P 500 enters a bear market
    have made an average of 22.7% in 12 months
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    Fake: no losers on Wall Street at all, Winners only

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/those-who-buy-stocks-the-day-after-the-s-p-500-enters-a-bear-market-have-made-an-average-of-22-7-in-12-months-11655224023
    John Doe
    off topic troll..


    Money is always on topic

    one again

    Money is always on topic
    Day trading is just a variant on gambling addiction. Obsession with
    money usually means you'll not wind up with much, or worse.

    I figure that if you design really good electronics, enough money will
    just happen.



    But. I'm sure you agree, that you need to save and invest some for the
    time when you no longer work.
    Sure. If you design a lot of electronics, you don't have time to spend
    money.
    I'm interested in the thread, after having lost about 6 years of
    spending in the last 6 months. I expect it to come up in a year or two.
    Maybe a climb after the November Election.
    In a pure investment/ponzi system, where nothing of value is actually
    produced, some people have to lose so that other people might win.

    It's unfortunate that the morons at the Fed and the Treasury, who call
    themselves macroeconomists, have made savings so bad that they drove
    everyone into the stock market.
    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. >> Francis Bacon
    Fed lifts interest rates by the most in 28 years, anticipates rates rising to 3.8% by the end of 2023

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-lifts-rates-by-most-in-three-decades-anticipates-policy-rate-rising-to-3-8-by-end-of-2023-11655316254

    Three crucial financial moves to make now after Feds biggest rate hike since 1994

    As usual, too much too late. Emotion and politics lead to bang-bang rail-to-rail control. These idiots don't understand control theory.

    Carter proved that high interest rates don't magically reduce
    inflation. High interest rates *are* inflation.



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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jun 15 13:53:38 2022
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 03:11:44 -0700 (PDT), a a <manta103g@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    Fake: no losers on Wall Street at all, Winners only

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/those-who-buy-stocks-the-day-after-the-s-p-500-enters-a-bear-market-have-made-an-average-of-22-7-in-12-months-11655224023

    Lots of people did that in 1929, bought into the curve all the way
    down. With margin financing.

    How much have you lost so far?

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  • From amdx@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Wed Jun 15 19:21:07 2022
    On 6/15/2022 3:31 PM, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 15:08:00 -0500, amdx <amdx@knology.net> wrote:

    On 6/15/2022 9:34 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 06:43:29 -0700 (PDT), a a <manta103g@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, 15 June 2022 at 15:26:42 UTC+2, John Doe wrote:
    Off topic troll...

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    have made an average of 22.7% in 12 months
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    Fake: no losers on Wall Street at all, Winners only

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/those-who-buy-stocks-the-day-after-the-s-p-500-enters-a-bear-market-have-made-an-average-of-22-7-in-12-months-11655224023
    John Doe
    off topic troll..


    Money is always on topic

    one again

    Money is always on topic
    Day trading is just a variant on gambling addiction. Obsession with
    money usually means you'll not wind up with much, or worse.

    I figure that if you design really good electronics, enough money will
    just happen.



    But. I'm sure you agree, that you need to save and invest some for the
    time when you no longer work.
    Sure. If you design a lot of electronics, you don't have time to spend
    money.


     I'm interested in the thread, after having lost about 6 years of
    spending in the last 6 months. I expect it to come up in a year or two.
    Maybe a climb after the November Election.
    In a pure investment/ponzi system, where nothing of value is actually produced, some people have to lose so that other people might win.

    It's unfortunate that the morons at the Fed and the Treasury, who call themselves macroeconomists, have made savings so bad that they drove
    everyone into the stock market.
       I'm still a believer in the stock market, I have invested every year since 1989*,
    and it has worked out very well for me. I don't pick stocks, I buy Total
    Stock Market Funds.

                                                            Mikek
    * retired in 2018, no income for additional investments.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Wed Jun 15 21:22:26 2022
    On 06/15/2022 02:31 PM, John Larkin wrote:
    It's unfortunate that the morons at the Fed and the Treasury, who call themselves macroeconomists, have made savings so bad that they drove
    everyone into the stock market.

    Screw them. 1% or whatever the bank was paying isn't much but I don't do stocks. A friend explained what an idiot I am -- just before the dotcom
    bust.

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  • From amdx@21:1/5 to rbowman on Thu Jun 16 07:00:42 2022
    On 6/15/2022 10:22 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On 06/15/2022 02:31 PM, John Larkin wrote:
    It's unfortunate that the morons at the Fed and the Treasury, who call
    themselves macroeconomists, have made savings so bad that they drove
    everyone into the stock market.

    Screw them. 1% or whatever the bank was paying isn't much but I don't
    do stocks. A friend explained what an idiot I am -- just before the
    dotcom bust.

        I hope you found another suitable investment. Since the end of
    2000, Vanguards Total Stock Market Fund,
    is up on average, very close to 9% per year with dividends.
     I have a neighbor that opened up his financial life to me.
    I found he had no stocks and his money was all in low interest rate cash equivalents. I ask why, and he said
    he took it all out after 9-11 in 2001. This was in 2019, I tried to get
    him to just get his foot wet by
    investing $10,000 into a Total Stock Market Fund, he didn't. I couldn't
    tell him I went home and saw if he had
    just stayed invested in Vanguard's Total Stock Market Mutual Fund, The
    $200k he had would be a little over $800k,
    and in 2021 it would have been over $1M. Ya, today he would be down
    about $200k from the peak, but, he'd still
    have $800k instead of $200k.
    It's kinda sad that he got scared out of the stock market when he did.

                                Mikek

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  • From a a@21:1/5 to amdx on Thu Jun 16 05:25:13 2022
    On Thursday, 16 June 2022 at 14:00:51 UTC+2, amdx wrote:
    On 6/15/2022 10:22 PM, rbowman wrote:
    On 06/15/2022 02:31 PM, John Larkin wrote:
    It's unfortunate that the morons at the Fed and the Treasury, who call
    themselves macroeconomists, have made savings so bad that they drove
    everyone into the stock market.

    Screw them. 1% or whatever the bank was paying isn't much but I don't
    do stocks. A friend explained what an idiot I am -- just before the
    dotcom bust.
    I hope you found another suitable investment. Since the end of
    2000, Vanguards Total Stock Market Fund,
    is up on average, very close to 9% per year with dividends.
    I have a neighbor that opened up his financial life to me.
    I found he had no stocks and his money was all in low interest rate cash equivalents. I ask why, and he said
    he took it all out after 9-11 in 2001. This was in 2019, I tried to get
    him to just get his foot wet by
    investing $10,000 into a Total Stock Market Fund, he didn't. I couldn't
    tell him I went home and saw if he had
    just stayed invested in Vanguard's Total Stock Market Mutual Fund, The
    $200k he had would be a little over $800k,
    and in 2021 it would have been over $1M. Ya, today he would be down
    about $200k from the peak, but, he'd still
    have $800k instead of $200k.
    It's kinda sad that he got scared out of the stock market when he did.

    Mikek
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Thu Jun 16 12:58:09 2022
    jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

    Day trading is just a variant on gambling addiction.

    Seems that's true. I really don't see why people complain about
    sophisticated hawks on the stock market, unless those people are trying to
    make a quick buck for themselves. Seems there would be no such problem
    when one is investing long term.

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 16 06:56:15 2022
    On Wed, 15 Jun 2022 21:22:26 -0600, rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
    wrote:

    On 06/15/2022 02:31 PM, John Larkin wrote:
    It's unfortunate that the morons at the Fed and the Treasury, who call
    themselves macroeconomists, have made savings so bad that they drove
    everyone into the stock market.

    Screw them. 1% or whatever the bank was paying isn't much but I don't do >stocks. A friend explained what an idiot I am -- just before the dotcom
    bust.

    I do have a friend who made a lot of bitcoins when they were 5 cents.
    Sometimes people get lucky.



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