• Gods of EV Charging

    From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to All on Fri May 27 23:14:00 2022
    The Gods of Shell Recharging (Previously Greenlots) doesn't like me. I am always amazed at how complicated it is to push a button for EV charging.

    I carry RFIDs and apps for ChargePoint, EV Connect and EvGo. But in this little corner of Los Angeles, Shell/Greenlots rule. Unfortunately, the app doesn't seem to work with my old phones.

    So, i am driving 15 miles away every day to a Nissan dealer, instead of the Shell/GreenLots station 2 miles away.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sat May 28 09:47:56 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:ce87c065-5e5c-479c-b9ea-e54459bbeeb1n@googlegroups.com:

    The Gods of Shell Recharging (Previously Greenlots) doesn't like
    me. I am always amazed at how complicated it is to push a button
    for EV charging.

    I carry RFIDs and apps for ChargePoint, EV Connect and EvGo. But
    in this little corner of Los Angeles, Shell/Greenlots rule.
    Unfortunately, the app doesn't seem to work with my old phones.

    So, i am driving 15 miles away every day to a Nissan dealer,
    instead of the Shell/GreenLots station 2 miles away.


    Out East here many of the larger supermarkets have stations. Our
    Meijer's have a bank of about five spots. Usually a couple are always
    taken when I go there.

    So certain stores that get a lot of activity put them in. You could
    call around to nearby stores like Home Depot, Costco, Lowes, and any
    large draw place where shoppers typically spend a long period of time.

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Sat May 28 06:04:15 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 2:48:04 AM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:ce87c065-5e5c-479c...@googlegroups.com:
    The Gods of Shell Recharging (Previously Greenlots) doesn't like
    me. I am always amazed at how complicated it is to push a button
    for EV charging.

    I carry RFIDs and apps for ChargePoint, EV Connect and EvGo. But
    in this little corner of Los Angeles, Shell/Greenlots rule.
    Unfortunately, the app doesn't seem to work with my old phones.

    So, i am driving 15 miles away every day to a Nissan dealer,
    instead of the Shell/GreenLots station 2 miles away.

    Out East here many of the larger supermarkets have stations. Our
    Meijer's have a bank of about five spots. Usually a couple are always
    taken when I go there.

    So certain stores that get a lot of activity put them in. You could
    call around to nearby stores like Home Depot, Costco, Lowes, and any
    large draw place where shoppers typically spend a long period of time.

    Plugshare shows me all available option already. No easy way shorter than 15 miles round-trip. Fortunately, i only have to deal with this for a few days. The problem is having to require "Shell Rechargeable" Smart Phone and App to use these LA city
    services. Why require app to confirm "intend to charge", and why require to confirm at all? Can't think of a reason that someone would plug it in and not really "intend to charge".

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to edward.ming.lee@gmail.com on Sat May 28 07:30:39 2022
    On Fri, 27 May 2022 23:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

    The Gods of Shell Recharging (Previously Greenlots) doesn't like me. I am always amazed at how complicated it is to push a button for EV charging.

    I carry RFIDs and apps for ChargePoint, EV Connect and EvGo. But in this little corner of Los Angeles, Shell/Greenlots rule. Unfortunately, the app doesn't seem to work with my old phones.

    So, i am driving 15 miles away every day to a Nissan dealer, instead of the Shell/GreenLots station 2 miles away.

    Drive 15 miles and then wait to charge? Every day! Why?

    I hit any one of five gas stations, on the way to work, about once
    every 2 weeks. I fill up in less time than it takes to squeegee the
    windows. My credit cards always work at any gas station.



    --

    Anybody can count to one.

    - Robert Widlar

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to jla...@highlandsniptfasechnology.co on Sat May 28 16:26:31 2022
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:30:49 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptfasechnology.com wrote:
    On Fri, 27 May 2022 23:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    The Gods of Shell Recharging (Previously Greenlots) doesn't like me. I am always amazed at how complicated it is to push a button for EV charging.

    I carry RFIDs and apps for ChargePoint, EV Connect and EvGo. But in this little corner of Los Angeles, Shell/Greenlots rule. Unfortunately, the app doesn't seem to work with my old phones.

    So, i am driving 15 miles away every day to a Nissan dealer, instead of the Shell/GreenLots station 2 miles away.
    Drive 15 miles and then wait to charge? Every day! Why?

    Because i don't have the latest fancy phone/app to use the free fast charger a mile away.

    I hit any one of five gas stations, on the way to work, about once
    every 2 weeks. I fill up in less time than it takes to squeegee the
    windows. My credit cards always work at any gas station.

    Not if Shell gets it's way. Credit card is not an option even though charging is free. I am sure Shell gave the city very good deal to lock in EV drivers with their app. The city is doing public disservice agreeing to such arrangement.

    Anyway, another good reason to "Escape from LA".

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  • From Don Y@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun May 29 08:15:00 2022
    On 5/27/2022 11:14 PM, Ed Lee wrote:
    The Gods of Shell Recharging (Previously Greenlots) doesn't like me. I am always amazed at how complicated it is to push a button for EV charging.

    I carry RFIDs and apps for ChargePoint, EV Connect and EvGo. But in this little corner of Los Angeles, Shell/Greenlots rule. Unfortunately, the app doesn't seem to work with my old phones.

    Wow, cash doesn't work? What about plastic? Are there bathrooms and
    other amenities at these charging stops? Or, do you twiddle your thumbs
    while the car soaks up charge?

    So, i am driving 15 miles away every day to a Nissan dealer, instead of the Shell/GreenLots station 2 miles away.

    I suspect I could find 40 gas stations within 5 miles of my location
    ANYWHERE "in town". Less than half a mile to the nearest from home.

    So, a fill-up is never "out of the way".

    And, I can go at least 350 miles in "city driving" on a single tank.
    A bit over 500 if I'm on the highway.

    WITH the air conditioning running constantly (cuz you wouldn't want
    to be in a car relying on "open windows" for cooling when it's 105+
    outside and you're stopped at a light).

    Electric sure sounds pretty inconvenient, to me...

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to edward.ming.lee@gmail.com on Sun May 29 13:10:20 2022
    On Sat, 28 May 2022 16:26:31 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:30:49 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptfasechnology.com wrote:
    On Fri, 27 May 2022 23:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    The Gods of Shell Recharging (Previously Greenlots) doesn't like me. I am always amazed at how complicated it is to push a button for EV charging.

    I carry RFIDs and apps for ChargePoint, EV Connect and EvGo. But in this little corner of Los Angeles, Shell/Greenlots rule. Unfortunately, the app doesn't seem to work with my old phones.

    So, i am driving 15 miles away every day to a Nissan dealer, instead of the Shell/GreenLots station 2 miles away.
    Drive 15 miles and then wait to charge? Every day! Why?

    Because i don't have the latest fancy phone/app to use the free fast charger a mile away.

    I hit any one of five gas stations, on the way to work, about once
    every 2 weeks. I fill up in less time than it takes to squeegee the
    windows. My credit cards always work at any gas station.

    Not if Shell gets it's way. Credit card is not an option even though charging is free. I am sure Shell gave the city very good deal to lock in EV drivers with their app. The city is doing public disservice agreeing to such arrangement.

    It seems to me that some people will spend a huge amount of time and
    hassle to get free charging.


    Anyway, another good reason to "Escape from LA".

    I never liked LA. It's a flat plane tiled by a periodic array of
    apartments, laundramats, and fast food.

    The people are plastic too. There is a continuous gradation on the
    west coast. The south is vain and superficial, the north is nice and
    earthy and boring. The middle is about right.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From John S@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun May 29 20:24:49 2022
    On 5/28/2022 6:26 PM, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:30:49 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptfasechnology.com wrote:
    On Fri, 27 May 2022 23:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    The Gods of Shell Recharging (Previously Greenlots) doesn't like me. I am always amazed at how complicated it is to push a button for EV charging.

    I carry RFIDs and apps for ChargePoint, EV Connect and EvGo. But in this little corner of Los Angeles, Shell/Greenlots rule. Unfortunately, the app doesn't seem to work with my old phones.

    So, i am driving 15 miles away every day to a Nissan dealer, instead of the Shell/GreenLots station 2 miles away.
    Drive 15 miles and then wait to charge? Every day! Why?

    Because i don't have the latest fancy phone/app to use the free fast charger a mile away.

    I hit any one of five gas stations, on the way to work, about once
    every 2 weeks. I fill up in less time than it takes to squeegee the
    windows. My credit cards always work at any gas station.

    Not if Shell gets it's way. Credit card is not an option even though charging is free. I am sure Shell gave the city very good deal to lock in EV drivers with their app. The city is doing public disservice agreeing to such arrangement.

    Anyway, another good reason to "Escape from LA".

    You mean escape from EV?

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  • From Flyguy@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Sun May 29 19:11:24 2022
    On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 1:10:31 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 28 May 2022 16:26:31 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:30:49 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptfasechnology.com wrote:
    On Fri, 27 May 2022 23:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    The Gods of Shell Recharging (Previously Greenlots) doesn't like me. I am always amazed at how complicated it is to push a button for EV charging.

    I carry RFIDs and apps for ChargePoint, EV Connect and EvGo. But in this little corner of Los Angeles, Shell/Greenlots rule. Unfortunately, the app doesn't seem to work with my old phones.

    So, i am driving 15 miles away every day to a Nissan dealer, instead of the Shell/GreenLots station 2 miles away.
    Drive 15 miles and then wait to charge? Every day! Why?

    Because i don't have the latest fancy phone/app to use the free fast charger a mile away.

    I hit any one of five gas stations, on the way to work, about once
    every 2 weeks. I fill up in less time than it takes to squeegee the
    windows. My credit cards always work at any gas station.

    Not if Shell gets it's way. Credit card is not an option even though charging is free. I am sure Shell gave the city very good deal to lock in EV drivers with their app. The city is doing public disservice agreeing to such arrangement.
    It seems to me that some people will spend a huge amount of time and
    hassle to get free charging.

    Anyway, another good reason to "Escape from LA".
    I never liked LA. It's a flat plane tiled by a periodic array of
    apartments, laundramats, and fast food.

    The people are plastic too. There is a continuous gradation on the
    west coast. The south is vain and superficial, the north is nice and
    earthy and boring. The middle is about right.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

    About right? Are you talking about San Francisco which requires you to have a Street Poop app for navigating the town on foot? The same place that retailers are not walking, but running away from town because of the rampant crime? Let's be clear: SF's
    time has come and GONE!

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to soar2morrow@yahoo.com on Sun May 29 19:39:21 2022
    On Sun, 29 May 2022 19:11:24 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
    <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 1:10:31 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 28 May 2022 16:26:31 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 7:30:49 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptfasechnology.com wrote:
    On Fri, 27 May 2022 23:14:00 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    The Gods of Shell Recharging (Previously Greenlots) doesn't like me. I am always amazed at how complicated it is to push a button for EV charging.

    I carry RFIDs and apps for ChargePoint, EV Connect and EvGo. But in this little corner of Los Angeles, Shell/Greenlots rule. Unfortunately, the app doesn't seem to work with my old phones.

    So, i am driving 15 miles away every day to a Nissan dealer, instead of the Shell/GreenLots station 2 miles away.
    Drive 15 miles and then wait to charge? Every day! Why?

    Because i don't have the latest fancy phone/app to use the free fast charger a mile away.

    I hit any one of five gas stations, on the way to work, about once
    every 2 weeks. I fill up in less time than it takes to squeegee the
    windows. My credit cards always work at any gas station.

    Not if Shell gets it's way. Credit card is not an option even though charging is free. I am sure Shell gave the city very good deal to lock in EV drivers with their app. The city is doing public disservice agreeing to such arrangement.
    It seems to me that some people will spend a huge amount of time and
    hassle to get free charging.

    Anyway, another good reason to "Escape from LA".
    I never liked LA. It's a flat plane tiled by a periodic array of
    apartments, laundramats, and fast food.

    The people are plastic too. There is a continuous gradation on the
    west coast. The south is vain and superficial, the north is nice and
    earthy and boring. The middle is about right.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. >> Francis Bacon

    About right? Are you talking about San Francisco which requires you to have a Street Poop app for navigating the town on foot? The same place that retailers are not walking, but running away from town because of the rampant crime? Let's be clear: SF's
    time has come and GONE!

    Only tourists go downtown. We don 't. Maybe things there will improve
    after we recall the D.A.

    We live in a sweet little village with *three* decent restaurants.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/mnfp7yorjd7sihp/Glen_Canyon_Sunday.jpg?raw=1

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/0v1m0lbl92ehgxa/Ohlone_Way_1.jpg?raw=1

    This is the library where the feds busted the Silk Road guy. There's a
    movie.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/boeiz8uhnumwxim/GP_Library.jpg?raw=1

    --

    John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

    The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
    "Bunter", he said, "I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason"

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to Don Y on Mon May 30 08:15:22 2022
    On Sunday, May 29, 2022 at 8:15:13 AM UTC-7, Don Y wrote:
    On 5/27/2022 11:14 PM, Ed Lee wrote:
    The Gods of Shell Recharging (Previously Greenlots) doesn't like me. I am always amazed at how complicated it is to push a button for EV charging.

    I carry RFIDs and apps for ChargePoint, EV Connect and EvGo. But in this little corner of Los Angeles, Shell/Greenlots rule. Unfortunately, the app doesn't seem to work with my old phones.
    Wow, cash doesn't work?

    No dollar or ruble.

    What about plastic?

    No paper or plastic

    Are there bathrooms and
    other amenities at these charging stops? Or, do you twiddle your thumbs
    while the car soaks up charge?
    So, i am driving 15 miles away every day to a Nissan dealer, instead of the Shell/GreenLots station 2 miles away.
    I suspect I could find 40 gas stations within 5 miles of my location
    ANYWHERE "in town". Less than half a mile to the nearest from home.

    Some day, it might turn the corner with more ev stations than gas stations, then shell would require you to use smart phone to fill-up.

    I am not objecting to them having this option, but objecting to it being the only option.


    So, a fill-up is never "out of the way".

    And, I can go at least 350 miles in "city driving" on a single tank.
    A bit over 500 if I'm on the highway.

    WITH the air conditioning running constantly (cuz you wouldn't want
    to be in a car relying on "open windows" for cooling when it's 105+
    outside and you're stopped at a light).

    Electric sure sounds pretty inconvenient, to me...

    Yes for the moment.

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