• refugees in Russia

    From David Eather@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 30 18:07:29 2022
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
    were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
    reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
    Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

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  • From Lasse Langwadt Christensen@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 30 07:01:12 2022
    lørdag den 30. april 2022 kl. 15.15.46 UTC+2 skrev Clifford Heath:
    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
    Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?
    The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been transported all over Russia as slave labour.

    Horrific.

    Russia has population decrease and brain drain from people leaving, seems like they are attempting to help that by kidnapping Ukrainians

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  • From Clifford Heath@21:1/5 to David Eather on Sat Apr 30 23:15:37 2022
    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
    were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
    reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
    Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

    The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been transported all over Russia as slave labour.

    Horrific.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to no.spam@please.net on Sat Apr 30 14:46:54 2022
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net> wrote in <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:

    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
    were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
    reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
    Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

    The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been >transported all over Russia as slave labor.

    Horrific.

    Depends, what are your 'best sources?'

    In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.

    This is an other example of the US mindset:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

    After banning Trump... and right wing media, little ByeThen and his corrupt son, your new dictator and war criminal,
    is at it again.
    He (or rather his puppeteers) will likely -maybe even before the midterm- come up with a reason to lock up or enlist most 'merricans, triggering a nuculear war is one way,
    then re-Build back better (if anyone left).
    The man is a perfect instrument of the US deep state and a danger to humanity as he is just a puppet without a working brain ...
    He is likely not even aware what he is doing...

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com on Sat Apr 30 08:54:10 2022
    On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath ><no.spam@please.net> wrote in ><16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:

    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
    were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
    reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
    Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

    The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been >>transported all over Russia as slave labor.

    Horrific.

    Depends, what are your 'best sources?'

    In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.


    And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
    Germans didn't.



    --

    Anybody can count to one.

    - Robert Widlar

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Sat Apr 30 16:53:00 2022
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 08:54:10 -0700) it happened jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in <fomq6h1nej07vupidm20mtrl0b9hp0tcld@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath >><no.spam@please.net> wrote in >><16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:

    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that >>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
    reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
    Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?


    The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been >>>transported all over Russia as slave labor.

    Horrific.

    Depends, what are your 'best sources?'

    In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.


    And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
    Germans didn't.

    Not the same, those were prisoners of war.
    What are your 'best sources'? CNN?

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Sat Apr 30 13:44:57 2022
    On 04/30/2022 09:54 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath >> <no.spam@please.net> wrote in
    <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:

    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that >>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
    reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
    Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

    The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been
    transported all over Russia as slave labor.

    Horrific.

    Depends, what are your 'best sources?'

    In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.


    And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
    Germans didn't.




    Have you ever been to Manzanar or Tule? Warm is relative. Lucky for them
    the US infrastructure wasn't destroyed so there was no drastic shortage
    of food despite the rationing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andersonville_Prison

    That's what happens when you're losing a war. One contributing factor
    was the Union's refusal to exchange prisoners, which was common at the
    time. The Union calculated they had a lot more manpower to draw upon so
    there was no benefit to get their prisoners back while putting
    Confederate soldiers back in the field.

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  • From David Eather@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Sun May 1 13:27:25 2022
    On 1/05/2022 1:54 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath >> <no.spam@please.net> wrote in
    <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:

    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that >>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
    reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
    Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

    The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been
    transported all over Russia as slave labor.

    Horrific.

    Depends, what are your 'best sources?'

    In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.


    And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
    Germans didn't.




    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    Also they were required to dispose / divest of assets within a few days
    of receiving a notice that they were going to the camps - far too short
    a time to arrange a proper sale for their homes at a fair price. As a
    result (although it may not have been the intention) the US achieved the
    result of pauperizing the interned Japanese - the same as the Nazis did
    to the German Jews.

    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Sat Apr 30 21:56:15 2022
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:47:03 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    This is an other example of the US mindset: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

    Yeah, that was excessive, and we did have some cleanup to do.
    In 1954, McCarthy was censured for his excess.
    Anti-communism wasn't entirely based on fantasy concerns, though.
    USSR killed many thousands of prisoners and 'suspects' in the invasion of Poland,
    Katyn forest being their gravesite. They admitted it, in 1990.

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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to David Eather on Sat Apr 30 22:33:21 2022
    David Eather wrote:
    ================

    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    ** You just made that up.

    See pic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc

    Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.

    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

    ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
    The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
    The internment camps were a necessary measure.
    FYI:

    Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles.


    ..... Phil

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  • From Ricky@21:1/5 to David Eather on Sun May 1 06:56:11 2022
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:27:33 PM UTC-4, David Eather wrote:
    On 1/05/2022 1:54 am, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath
    <no....@please.net> wrote in
    <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd...@news.thecubenet.com>:

    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that >>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
    reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
    Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

    The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been >>> transported all over Russia as slave labor.

    Horrific.

    Depends, what are your 'best sources?'

    In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.


    And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
    Germans didn't.



    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    Also they were required to dispose / divest of assets within a few days
    of receiving a notice that they were going to the camps - far too short
    a time to arrange a proper sale for their homes at a fair price. As a
    result (although it may not have been the intention) the US achieved the result of pauperizing the interned Japanese - the same as the Nazis did
    to the German Jews.

    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

    How can it be shameful when it was in accordance with the Constitution? The Supreme Court said so at the time. They are never wrong by definition.

    Live by the rules, die by the rules.

    --

    Rick C.

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    - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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  • From Ricky@21:1/5 to palli...@gmail.com on Sun May 1 07:06:56 2022
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:33:24 AM UTC-4, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
    David Eather wrote:
    ================

    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    ** You just made that up.

    See pic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc

    Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.
    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.
    ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
    The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
    The internment camps were a necessary measure.

    Yes, it was necessary to cause them to become impoverished and live in the equivalent of poverty. It's not like we could possibly protect US citizens in their homes. It's not possible to lock up people who were actually breaking the law.

    Sir, you are the king of convoluted reasoning.


    FYI:

    Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles.

    Being an imbecile is your favorite pastime.

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    Rick C.

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  • From Ricky@21:1/5 to All on Sun May 1 07:03:36 2022
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 12:56:19 AM UTC-4, whit3rd wrote:
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 7:47:03 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    This is an other example of the US mindset: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism
    Yeah, that was excessive, and we did have some cleanup to do.
    In 1954, McCarthy was censured for his excess.
    Anti-communism wasn't entirely based on fantasy concerns, though.
    USSR killed many thousands of prisoners and 'suspects' in the invasion of Poland,
    Katyn forest being their gravesite. They admitted it, in 1990.

    WTF does that have to do with McCarthy? His actions had little to do with real concerns about Communism. It was a political ploy, much like the the current situation on our southern border. Yes, we have a problem there, but mostly politicians use it
    to gain political advantage rather than actually solving any problems.

    McCarthy did not act alone. It was a popular movement even within Congress. It only fell out of favor once the Supreme Court ruled against several of the laws enacted and it was exposed as a very harmful political ploy.

    --

    Rick C.

    + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Ricky on Sun May 1 11:30:07 2022
    On 5/1/2022 10:06 AM, Ricky wrote:
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:33:24 AM UTC-4, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
    David Eather wrote:
    ================

    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    ** You just made that up.

    See pic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc

    Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.
    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.
    ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
    The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
    The internment camps were a necessary measure.

    Yes, it was necessary to cause them to become impoverished and live in the equivalent of poverty. It's not like we could possibly protect US citizens in their homes. It's not possible to lock up people who were actually breaking the law.

    Sir, you are the king of convoluted reasoning.

    "I don't want any of them [persons of Japanese ancestry] here. They are
    a dangerous element. There is no way to determine their loyalty... It
    makes no difference whether he is an American citizen, he is still a
    Japanese. American citizenship does not necessarily determine loyalty...
    But we must worry about the Japanese all the time until he is wiped off
    the map."

    Lieutenant General John L. DeWitt, head of the Western Defense Command & internment program administrator


    FYI:

    Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles.

    Being an imbecile is your favorite pastime.


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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Phil Allison on Sun May 1 11:45:23 2022
    On 5/1/2022 1:33 AM, Phil Allison wrote:
    David Eather wrote:
    ================

    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    ** You just made that up.

    See pic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc

    Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.

    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

    ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
    The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
    The internment camps were a necessary measure.
    FYI:

    Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles.


    ..... Phil


    Re-settlement was hardly a 100% popular idea, but Executive Order 9066
    didn't specify what race of people could or couldn't be re-settled, just persons deemed a threat to national security, from certain geographic areas.

    And if you make too much of a fuss about your Japanese neighbor being re-settled maybe you get re-settled "for your protection" also...

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  • From David Eather@21:1/5 to Phil Allison on Mon May 2 03:12:11 2022
    On 1/05/2022 3:33 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
    David Eather wrote:
    ================

    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    ** You just made that up.

    No seriously it is true. Ill see if I can find the documentary. I grant
    they may have improved the camps later but they were used unfinished,
    tar paper only and fairly horrific to start with.

    Which should not be surprising considering they were moving a large
    number of despised people at very short notice to camps which a few
    weeks ago did not exist at all in very desolate areas with no
    infrastructure.


    See pic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc

    Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.

    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

    ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
    The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
    The internment camps were a necessary measure.

    The internment camps may have protected the Japanese from US citizens retaliations, but that is not why they were made.

    Please remember my comments from the recent discussion on dropping the
    a-bomb. I am definitely not one eyed pro-Japanese
    FYI:

    Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles.


    ..... Phil


    As is brushing away the shameful parts.

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  • From David Eather@21:1/5 to Ricky on Mon May 2 03:18:47 2022
    On 1/05/2022 11:56 pm, Ricky wrote:
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:27:33 PM UTC-4, David Eather wrote:
    On 1/05/2022 1:54 am, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath
    <no....@please.net> wrote in
    <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd...@news.thecubenet.com>:

    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that >>>>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as >>>>>> reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red >>>>>> Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

    The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been >>>>> transported all over Russia as slave labor.

    Horrific.

    Depends, what are your 'best sources?'

    In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.


    And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
    Germans didn't.



    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    Also they were required to dispose / divest of assets within a few days
    of receiving a notice that they were going to the camps - far too short
    a time to arrange a proper sale for their homes at a fair price. As a
    result (although it may not have been the intention) the US achieved the
    result of pauperizing the interned Japanese - the same as the Nazis did
    to the German Jews.

    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

    How can it be shameful when it was in accordance with the Constitution? The Supreme Court said so at the time. They are never wrong by definition.

    Live by the rules, die by the rules.


    I might be wrong but aren't there a number of amendment to the
    constitution? Each amendment says there was something wrong with the
    existing constitution (and also says "lets make it better")

    Just because you can frame or define a set of actions as legal doesn't
    make it moral or even "right" - as each amendment shows.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to David Eather on Sun May 1 13:03:47 2022
    On 05/01/2022 11:12 AM, David Eather wrote:
    On 1/05/2022 3:33 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
    David Eather wrote:
    ================

    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    ** You just made that up.

    No seriously it is true. Ill see if I can find the documentary. I grant
    they may have improved the camps later but they were used unfinished,
    tar paper only and fairly horrific to start with.

    Which should not be surprising considering they were moving a large
    number of despised people at very short notice to camps which a few
    weeks ago did not exist at all in very desolate areas with no
    infrastructure.

    Manzanar is the best preserved of the camps but there aren't many of the original structures left. Photos show they weren't luxury housing units.
    What is left are some of the rock gardens and a memorial that was
    erected at the inmate's cemetery in 1943:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3017/2651376815_feb75c34bd_b.jpg

    The Kanji loosely translates as 'soul consoling tower'.

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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to bitrex on Sun May 1 12:55:15 2022
    On 05/01/2022 09:45 AM, bitrex wrote:
    On 5/1/2022 1:33 AM, Phil Allison wrote:
    David Eather wrote:
    ================

    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    ** You just made that up.

    See pic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc

    Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.

    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

    ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from
    retaliations by US citizens.
    The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2
    were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
    The internment camps were a necessary measure.
    FYI:

    Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles.


    ..... Phil


    Re-settlement was hardly a 100% popular idea, but Executive Order 9066
    didn't specify what race of people could or couldn't be re-settled, just persons deemed a threat to national security, from certain geographic
    areas.

    And if you make too much of a fuss about your Japanese neighbor being re-settled maybe you get re-settled "for your protection" also...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Missoula_Internment_Camp

    There were few Japanese at the Fort permanently; most were being
    processed and moved to other camps. Almost all were Italian citizens.
    It's rumored some of the internments jumped the gun before the US was
    actually at war.

    Quite a few liked the area and stayed after the war.

    Unlike the Japanese-Americans who were US citizens, the US did not
    intern Italian-American or German-American citizens. If they'd interned German-Americans they would have had much left to fight a war. They did
    play the usual 'freedom fries' game; the family German Shepherd became a 'Police Dog' for the duration.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From rbowman@21:1/5 to David Eather on Sun May 1 12:33:01 2022
    On 05/01/2022 11:18 AM, David Eather wrote:
    On 1/05/2022 11:56 pm, Ricky wrote:
    On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 11:27:33 PM UTC-4, David Eather wrote:
    On 1/05/2022 1:54 am, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened
    Clifford Heath
    <no....@please.net> wrote in
    <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd...@news.thecubenet.com>:

    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians >>>>>>> that
    were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as >>>>>>> reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red >>>>>>> Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

    The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have
    been
    transported all over Russia as slave labor.

    Horrific.

    Depends, what are your 'best sources?'

    In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.



    And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
    Germans didn't.



    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    Also they were required to dispose / divest of assets within a few days
    of receiving a notice that they were going to the camps - far too short
    a time to arrange a proper sale for their homes at a fair price. As a
    result (although it may not have been the intention) the US achieved the >>> result of pauperizing the interned Japanese - the same as the Nazis did
    to the German Jews.

    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

    How can it be shameful when it was in accordance with the
    Constitution? The Supreme Court said so at the time. They are never
    wrong by definition.

    Live by the rules, die by the rules.


    I might be wrong but aren't there a number of amendment to the
    constitution? Each amendment says there was something wrong with the
    existing constitution (and also says "lets make it better")

    Just because you can frame or define a set of actions as legal doesn't
    make it moral or even "right" - as each amendment shows.

    Note that the first ten amendments were necessary before the several
    states would even ratify the document... The original intent was to
    spruce up the Articles of Confederation not come up with something
    entirely different that created the United States out of the several states.


    “But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much
    is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have
    had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.”

    Lysander Spooner

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to David Eather on Mon May 2 06:02:36 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    A "holier-than-thou" Australian troll throwing stones at everybody else...

    --
    David Eather <eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au> wrote:

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    On 1/05/2022 1:54 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath >>> <no.spam@please.net> wrote in
    <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:

    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that >>>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
    reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
    Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

    The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been >>>> transported all over Russia as slave labor.

    Horrific.

    Depends, what are your 'best sources?'

    In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.


    And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
    Germans didn't.




    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    Also they were required to dispose / divest of assets within a few days
    of receiving a notice that they were going to the camps - far too short
    a time to arrange a proper sale for their homes at a fair price. As a
    result (although it may not have been the intention) the US achieved the result of pauperizing the interned Japanese - the same as the Nazis did
    to the German Jews.

    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.



    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 2 06:11:15 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 2 May 2022 06:02:36 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t4ns5s$1fq$6@dont-email.me>.

    Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
    USENET (**) has been 57.6% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
    least 1179 articles to USENET. Of which 139 have been pure insults and
    540 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    jmZzOhMqYM/6

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun May 1 23:25:14 2022
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:02:43 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    On Sun, 1 May 2022 13:27:25 +1000 David Eather <eatREM...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
    On 1/05/2022 1:54 am, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath <no....@please.net> wrote in 16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd...@news.thecubenet.com>:
    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:

    <snip>

    In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.

    And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and Germans didn't.

    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single layer of tar paper.

    Also they were required to dispose / divest of assets within a few days of receiving a notice that they were going to the camps - far too short a time to arrange a proper sale for their homes at a fair price. As a result (although it may not have
    been the intention) the US achieved the result of pauperizing the interned Japanese - the same as the Nazis did to the German Jews.

    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

    A "holier-than-thou" Australian troll throwing stones at everybody else...

    John Doe seems to think that he's capable of judging of holiness. A malicious anonymous troll doesn't have a lot of moral weight. His enthusiasm for Putin and Trump does suggest a fairly serious shortage of moral judgement, and he puts in a lot of effort
    into being downright evil on less significant issues. If anything, his approval is more to be feared than his condemnation. He probably rates as an unholier-than thou American troll (if he isn't actually a Russian bot).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 2 06:35:40 2022
    I don't believe a word Bozo says.


    Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an attention- craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

    "the user has posted under the same name in other places, so not
    nym-shifting" (Bozo sucks at logic)

    "the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
    (Bozo lying)

    "the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
    (Bozo being weird)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Mon May 2 06:35:07 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Eddie wants so badly to nym-shift. That's a no-no here, Eddie!

    Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    See also...
    John Doe <always.look@message.header> (astraweb)
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

    Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

    Spanked Eddie...

    --
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 2 May 2022 06:02:36 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t4ns5s$1fq$6@dont-email.me>.

    Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to USENET (**) has been 57.6% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
    least 1179 articles to USENET. Of which 139 have been pure insults and
    540 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    jmZzOhMqYM/6




    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 2 06:36:10 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 2 May 2022 06:35:07 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t4nu2r$1fq$11@dont-email.me>.

    Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
    USENET (**) has been 57.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
    least 1188 articles to USENET. Of which 139 have been pure insults and
    546 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    s8yV1fCzCWBe

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to David Eather on Sun May 1 23:48:31 2022
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 3:12:20 AM UTC+10, David Eather wrote:
    On 1/05/2022 3:33 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
    David Eather wrote:
    ================

    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    ** You just made that up.
    No seriously it is true.

    ** No it fucking isn't.

    See pic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc

    Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.
    ===========================================


    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

    ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
    The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
    The internment camps were a necessary measure.

    The internment camps may have protected the Japanese from US citizens retaliations, but that is not why they were made.

    ** It was actually. Threats against them were rampant an real.

    " Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles."


    ..... Phil

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com on Mon May 2 09:44:59 2022
    On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 16:53:00 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 08:54:10 -0700) it happened >jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in ><fomq6h1nej07vupidm20mtrl0b9hp0tcld@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath >>><no.spam@please.net> wrote in >>><16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:

    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that >>>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
    reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
    Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?


    The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been >>>>transported all over Russia as slave labor.

    Horrific.

    Depends, what are your 'best sources?'

    In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.


    And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
    Germans didn't.

    Not the same, those were prisoners of war.

    Do you approve of starving and beating POWs?

    How about gassing Jews? We didn't gas Japanese.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au on Mon May 2 09:51:04 2022
    On Sun, 1 May 2022 13:27:25 +1000, David Eather
    <eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au> wrote:

    On 1/05/2022 1:54 am, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:54 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 23:15:37 +1000) it happened Clifford Heath >>> <no.spam@please.net> wrote in
    <16eaaeeb792cb097$1$4132523$32dd386f@news.thecubenet.com>:

    On 30/4/22 6:07 pm, David Eather wrote:
    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that >>>>> were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
    reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
    Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

    The best sources I have seen claim around 500,000 Ukrainians have been >>>> transported all over Russia as slave labor.

    Horrific.

    Depends, what are your 'best sources?'

    In WW2 US locked all its Japanese citizens in camps:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%20during,western%20interior%20of%20the%20country.


    And kept them together and safe and warm and fed. The Japanese and
    Germans didn't.




    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    Also they were required to dispose / divest of assets within a few days
    of receiving a notice that they were going to the camps - far too short
    a time to arrange a proper sale for their homes at a fair price. As a
    result (although it may not have been the intention) the US achieved the >result of pauperizing the interned Japanese - the same as the Nazis did
    to the German Jews.

    Except for the starvation and the gas thing.


    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

    The treatment was light-years better than brutal or Japanese camps,
    not to mention forced death marches and megadeath gas chambers. USA
    was certainly in the lead on that one.

    As it was in granting political and racial rights; ahead of most other countries.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to pallison49@gmail.com on Mon May 2 09:57:36 2022
    On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:33:21 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
    <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

    David Eather wrote:
    ================

    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    ** You just made that up.

    See pic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc

    Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.

    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

    ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
    The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
    The internment camps were a necessary measure.
    FYI:

    Re-writing history is the favorite sport of ultra woke imbeciles.


    ..... Phil

    Times change and humanity makes incrememntal progress. Some people
    blame the drivers of the progress for not somehow being perfect in the
    past.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to bitrex on Mon May 2 09:59:30 2022
    On Sun, 1 May 2022 11:30:07 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 5/1/2022 10:06 AM, Ricky wrote:
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 1:33:24 AM UTC-4, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
    David Eather wrote:
    ================

    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both >>>> hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    ** You just made that up.

    See pic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc

    Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.
    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.
    ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
    The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
    The internment camps were a necessary measure.

    Yes, it was necessary to cause them to become impoverished and live in the equivalent of poverty. It's not like we could possibly protect US citizens in their homes. It's not possible to lock up people who were actually breaking the law.

    Sir, you are the king of convoluted reasoning.

    "I don't want any of them [persons of Japanese ancestry] here. They are
    a dangerous element. There is no way to determine their loyalty... It
    makes no difference whether he is an American citizen, he is still a >Japanese. American citizenship does not necessarily determine loyalty...
    But we must worry about the Japanese all the time until he is wiped off
    the map."

    Lieutenant General John L. DeWitt, head of the Western Defense Command & >internment program administrator


    But of course, they weren't.

    Millions of Jews and Chinese were.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au on Mon May 2 10:02:08 2022
    On Mon, 2 May 2022 03:12:11 +1000, David Eather
    <eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au> wrote:

    On 1/05/2022 3:33 pm, Phil Allison wrote:
    David Eather wrote:
    ================

    Definitely did not keep them warm. Their camps were in the desert (both
    hot in the day and freezing at night) and made with walls of a single
    layer of tar paper.

    ** You just made that up.

    No seriously it is true. Ill see if I can find the documentary. I grant
    they may have improved the camps later but they were used unfinished,
    tar paper only and fairly horrific to start with.

    Which should not be surprising considering they were moving a large
    number of despised people at very short notice to camps which a few
    weeks ago did not exist at all in very desolate areas with no
    infrastructure.


    See pic:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iN5-RgDlyc

    Any tar paper used acted as exterior water proofing.

    It is one of the more shameful chapters in American history.

    ** You realise the camps protected Japanese men, women & children from retaliations by US citizens.
    The actions of the Japanese military in China and throughout WW2 were barbaric, particularly in relation to captured civilians.
    The internment camps were a necessary measure.

    The internment camps may have protected the Japanese from US citizens >retaliations, but that is not why they were made.

    Please remember my comments from the recent discussion on dropping the >a-bomb. I am definitely not one eyed pro-Japanese

    https://tinyurl.com/y3n9q3ka

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From Bertrand Sindri@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Tue May 3 14:02:45 2022
    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:02:43 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    A "holier-than-thou" Australian troll throwing stones at everybody
    else...

    John Doe seems to think that he's capable of judging of holiness. A malicious anonymous troll doesn't have a lot of moral weight. His
    enthusiasm for Putin and Trump does suggest a fairly serious shortage
    of moral judgement, and he puts in a lot of effort into being
    downright evil on less significant issues. If anything, his approval
    is more to be feared than his condemnation. He probably rates as an unholier-than thou American troll (if he isn't actually a Russian
    bot).

    The JD troll has all the appearances of a russian troll or russian
    operative. It gives off the appearance of a one sided thinker that is
    clearly not interested in discussion, debate, nor increasing its
    understanding of the world. I.e., of an operative that has a task to accomplish and no amount of discussion, evidence, etc. will sway the
    operative from spewing the official party line that it has been given
    to spew.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Bertrand Sindri on Tue May 3 20:13:23 2022
    On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 12:02:55 AM UTC+10, Bertrand Sindri wrote:
    Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:02:43 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    A "holier-than-thou" Australian troll throwing stones at everybody
    else...

    John Doe seems to think that he's capable of judging of holiness. A malicious anonymous troll doesn't have a lot of moral weight. His enthusiasm for Putin and Trump does suggest a fairly serious shortage
    of moral judgement, and he puts in a lot of effort into being
    downright evil on less significant issues. If anything, his approval
    is more to be feared than his condemnation. He probably rates as an unholier-than thou American troll (if he isn't actually a Russian
    bot).
    The JD troll has all the appearances of a russian troll or russian operative. It gives off the appearance of a one sided thinker that is clearly not interested in discussion, debate, nor increasing its understanding of the world. I.e., of an operative that has a task to accomplish and no amount of discussion, evidence, etc. will sway the operative from spewing the official party line that it has been given
    to spew.

    John Doe's interest in the John Durham prosecution would be odd in a Russian operative. The John Durham prosecution does seem to have been an FBI initiative aimed at keeping Donald Trump happy, and they are now having trouble rounding it off without
    making it obvious that it was a political gesture rather than a serious prosecution. This would be obvious to a Russian operative, but a rusted-on Trump fan - as John Doe seems to be - isn't going to have that kind of contact with reality.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Bertrand Sindri on Wed May 4 05:13:34 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    I've used the same ID on USENET for 20+ years.

    Some nym-shifting troll whose ID nobody had ever seen before
    until very recently...

    --
    Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri@yahoo.com> wrote:

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    From: Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri@yahoo.com>
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
    Subject: Re: OT: refugees in Russia
    Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 14:02:45 -0000 (UTC)
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    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 4:02:43 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    A "holier-than-thou" Australian troll throwing stones at everybody
    else...

    John Doe seems to think that he's capable of judging of holiness. A
    malicious anonymous troll doesn't have a lot of moral weight. His
    enthusiasm for Putin and Trump does suggest a fairly serious shortage
    of moral judgement, and he puts in a lot of effort into being
    downright evil on less significant issues. If anything, his approval
    is more to be feared than his condemnation. He probably rates as an
    unholier-than thou American troll (if he isn't actually a Russian
    bot).

    The JD troll has all the appearances of a russian troll or russian
    operative. It gives off the appearance of a one sided thinker that is clearly not interested in discussion, debate, nor increasing its understanding of the world. I.e., of an operative that has a task to accomplish and no amount of discussion, evidence, etc. will sway the operative from spewing the official party line that it has been given
    to spew.




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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 4 05:26:47 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Wed, 4 May 2022 05:13:34 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t4t21u$vfr$6@dont-email.me>.

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET (**) has been 59.8% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
    least 1246 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    604 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    GTV9AH17/IyQ

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 4 05:49:44 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Wed, 4 May 2022 05:43:20 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t4t3pn$vfr$14@dont-email.me>.

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET (**) has been 60.2% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
    least 1261 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    618 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    hpMfbByeLctE

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to David Eather on Wed May 4 09:47:25 2022
    David Eather <eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au> wrote:

    Does anyone have any knowledge of what happened to the Ukrainians that
    were evacuating to Poland but the Russians redirected to Russia (as
    reported) or perhaps Russian controlled territory? Has Amnesty, Red
    Cross, HRW etc been able to check on them?

    When I read about that (many weeks ago), I got the impression there was no sinister reason for them being ushered through Russian territory. They ended
    up where they needed to go. Surely there are lots of detours during a war.

    Recently, Russia bent over backwards trying to evacuate a steel plant before forcing surrender of the soldiers who were left.

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