• Egineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers -- nice

    From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 30 06:05:36 2022
    Nice board:
    Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers
    that improve performance, cut costs

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm

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  • From legg@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 30 03:22:23 2022
    Good one.

    Even better Ejitneers.

    RL

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Sat Apr 30 14:46:26 2022
    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
    Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers
    that improve performance, cut costs

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm


    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Sat Apr 30 14:27:45 2022
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
    Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers
    that improve performance, cut costs

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm


    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the kwantuum computah to appear in the local shop. There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

    Max <maxturv26@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
    On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Hello,

    I've a problem cracking 128 bit keys.
    My new Quantum Computer can easily crack Twofish 128 bit keys, but not AES
    128 bit keys.

    I wonder why? Some ideas ?


    Have you tried turning it off and on again?

    :-)

    But the article shows the problems with the short lifetime of the quantum state.

    As to 'supper computahs'. Our brain is much better at solving complex problems. Not so much silly mamamatical cracking but the bigger view.
    IMNSHO.

    The quantum jive somehow always reminds me of analog computers,
    like many states a capacitor can hold many voltage levels.

    In essence we are all quantum coupled, quite possible the brain already uses it, likely even.
    we are just discovering.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Sat Apr 30 07:40:32 2022
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 12:27:54 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1...@gioia.aioe.org>:
    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    <snip>

    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the quantum computer to appear in the local shop. There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

    Max <maxt...@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1...@gioia.aioe.org>:
    On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    But the article shows the problems with the short lifetime of the quantum state.

    As to 'supper computahs'. Our brain is much better at solving complex problems.
    Not so much silly mathematical cracking but the bigger view.
    IMNSHO.

    The quantum jive somehow always reminds me of analog computers, like many states a capacitor can hold many voltage levels.

    Sadly, quantisation implies a finite number of discrete levels

    In essence we are all quantum coupled, quite possible the brain already uses it, likely even. we are just discovering.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Penrose

    Not an original thought, but a fairly silly one. Being as smart as Roger Penrose doesn't stop you from having silly ideas, and defending them with bizarre suppositions. Being as silly as Jan makes you a sucker for that kind of pointless speculation.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Sat Apr 30 22:56:51 2022
    On 2022-04-30 16:27, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
    Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers
    that improve performance, cut costs

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm


    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the kwantuum computah to appear in the local shop.
    There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

    >Max <maxturv26@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
    >On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I've a problem cracking 128 bit keys.
    >> My new Quantum Computer can easily crack Twofish 128 bit keys, but not AES
    >> 128 bit keys.
    >>
    >> I wonder why? Some ideas ?
    >>
    >
    >Have you tried turning it off and on again?

    :-)

    But the article shows the problems with the short lifetime of the quantum state.

    As to 'supper computahs'. Our brain is much better at solving complex problems.
    Not so much silly mamamatical cracking but the bigger view.
    IMNSHO.

    The quantum jive somehow always reminds me of analog computers,
    like many states a capacitor can hold many voltage levels.

    In essence we are all quantum coupled, quite possible the brain already uses it, likely even.
    we are just discovering.


    I was just wondering. You refute the existence of photons, even though
    there is good evidence, and now you talk of quantum coupled brains,
    which is balderdash. I think your world view is in need of a spring
    cleaning.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jeroen@nospam.please on Sun May 1 06:34:08 2022
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:56:51 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <t4k7qk$au1$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 16:27, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman >> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
    Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers
    that improve performance, cut costs

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm


    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the kwantuum computah to appear in the local shop.
    There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

    >Max <maxturv26@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
    >On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I've a problem cracking 128 bit keys.
    >> My new Quantum Computer can easily crack Twofish 128 bit keys, but not AES
    >> 128 bit keys.
    >>
    >> I wonder why? Some ideas ?
    >>
    >
    >Have you tried turning it off and on again?

    :-)

    But the article shows the problems with the short lifetime of the quantum state.

    As to 'supper computahs'. Our brain is much better at solving complex problems.
    Not so much silly mamamatical cracking but the bigger view.
    IMNSHO.

    The quantum jive somehow always reminds me of analog computers,
    like many states a capacitor can hold many voltage levels.

    In essence we are all quantum coupled, quite possible the brain already uses it, likely even.
    we are just discovering.


    I was just wondering. You refute the existence of photons, even though
    there is good evidence, and now you talk of quantum coupled brains,
    which is balderdash. I think your world view is in need of a spring
    cleaning.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Really? most fishsicks today is wrong.
    Bunch of idiots at CERN think that by shooting a Mercedes and Ferrari together at 10,000 km/h
    will give them insight into how the car's electronics work.
    Ever faster collisions, God particle, money sucking crap,
    only thing those tunnels are good for is bomb shelters. once the US attacks to get hold of the Swiss banks.

    Photon is just a mamamatical construction by their religious leader Onestone.
    I have spoken.

    You do realize that if I wiggle a what you earthlings call 'electron'; its effect if felt a bit later
    anywhere else by all other electrons?

    Simply explained for example by seeing that a state of a Le Sage type particle is a transmitter for EM radiation.
    Wow, now graffiti and lied have the same speed.

    xcuse my rand earthling
    Back to the tunnels you go!

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Sat Apr 30 23:50:18 2022
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 4:34:17 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:56:51 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote in <t4k7qk$au1$1...@gioia.aioe.org>:
    On 2022-04-30 16:27, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman <jer...@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1...@gioia.aioe.org>:
    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
    Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers
    that improve performance, cut costs

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm


    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the kwantuum computah to appear in the local shop.
    There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

    Max <maxt...@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1...@gioia.aioe.org>:
    On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:

    <snip>

    I was just wondering. You refute the existence of photons, even though >there is good evidence, and now you talk of quantum coupled brains,
    which is balderdash. I think your world view is in need of a spring >cleaning.

    Really? most physics today is wrong.

    According to Jan.

    <snipped feeble attempt at satire>

    Photon is just a mathematical construction by their religious leader Einstein.

    Wrong.

    I have spoken.

    Gibbered.

    <snipped more nonsense>

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Sun May 1 05:50:02 2022
    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:56:51 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <t4k7qk$au1$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 16:27, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
    Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers
    that improve performance, cut costs

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm


    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the kwantuum computah to appear in the local shop.
    There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

    >Max <maxturv26@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
    >On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I've a problem cracking 128 bit keys.
    >> My new Quantum Computer can easily crack Twofish 128 bit keys, but not AES
    >> 128 bit keys.
    >>
    >> I wonder why? Some ideas ?
    >>
    >
    >Have you tried turning it off and on again?

    :-)

    But the article shows the problems with the short lifetime of the quantum state.

    As to 'supper computahs'. Our brain is much better at solving complex problems.
    Not so much silly mamamatical cracking but the bigger view.
    IMNSHO.

    The quantum jive somehow always reminds me of analog computers,
    like many states a capacitor can hold many voltage levels.

    In essence we are all quantum coupled, quite possible the brain already uses it, likely even.
    we are just discovering.


    I was just wondering. You refute the existence of photons, even though
    there is good evidence, and now you talk of quantum coupled brains,
    which is balderdash. I think your world view is in need of a spring
    cleaning.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Really? most fishsicks today is wrong.
    Bunch of idiots at CERN think that by shooting a Mercedes and Ferrari together at 10,000 km/h
    will give them insight into how the car's electronics work.
    Ever faster collisions, God particle, money sucking crap,
    only thing those tunnels are good for is bomb shelters. once the US attacks to get hold of the Swiss banks.

    Photon is just a mamamatical construction by their religious leader Onestone. I have spoken.

    You do realize that if I wiggle a what you earthlings call 'electron'; its effect if felt a bit later
    anywhere else by all other electrons?

    Simply explained for example by seeing that a state of a Le Sage type particle is a transmitter for EM radiation.
    Wow, now graffiti and lied have the same speed.

    xcuse my rand earthling
    Back to the tunnels you go!


    Jan, you're losing your touch. You have to target your trolling a bit
    better for maximum effect. ;) (Maybe you're trying to chase 'rbowman'
    out of your rightful ecological niche. He has been making a bid for it
    lately, whoever he is. Or maybe he wants to be the new John Fields, but
    isn't amusing enough.)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Sun May 1 07:19:22 2022
    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sun, 1 May 2022 05:50:02 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in <4df6f520-c7e2-7a54-0309-5ae3249edab8@electrooptical.net>:

    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:56:51 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <t4k7qk$au1$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 16:27, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
    Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers >>>>>>> that improve performance, cut costs

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm >>>>>>>

    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the kwantuum computah to appear in the local shop.
    There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

    >Max <maxturv26@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1@gioia.aioe.org>: >>>>> >On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I've a problem cracking 128 bit keys.
    >> My new Quantum Computer can easily crack Twofish 128 bit keys, but not AES
    >> 128 bit keys.
    >>
    >> I wonder why? Some ideas ?
    >>
    >
    >Have you tried turning it off and on again?

    :-)

    But the article shows the problems with the short lifetime of the quantum state.

    As to 'supper computahs'. Our brain is much better at solving complex problems.
    Not so much silly mamamatical cracking but the bigger view.
    IMNSHO.

    The quantum jive somehow always reminds me of analog computers,
    like many states a capacitor can hold many voltage levels.

    In essence we are all quantum coupled, quite possible the brain already uses it, likely even.
    we are just discovering.


    I was just wondering. You refute the existence of photons, even though >>>> there is good evidence, and now you talk of quantum coupled brains,
    which is balderdash. I think your world view is in need of a spring
    cleaning.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Really? most fishsicks today is wrong.
    Bunch of idiots at CERN think that by shooting a Mercedes and Ferrari together at 10,000 km/h
    will give them insight into how the car's electronics work.
    Ever faster collisions, God particle, money sucking crap,
    only thing those tunnels are good for is bomb shelters. once the US attacks to get hold of the Swiss banks.

    Photon is just a mamamatical construction by their religious leader Onestone.
    I have spoken.

    You do realize that if I wiggle a what you earthlings call 'electron'; its effect if felt a bit later
    anywhere else by all other electrons?

    Simply explained for example by seeing that a state of a Le Sage type particle is a transmitter for EM radiation.
    Wow, now graffiti and lied have the same speed.

    xcuse my rand earthling
    Back to the tunnels you go!


    Jan, you're losing your touch. You have to target your trolling a bit
    better for maximum effect. ;) (Maybe you're trying to chase 'rbowman'
    out of your rightful ecological niche. He has been making a bid for it
    lately, whoever he is. Or maybe he wants to be the new John Fields, but
    isn't amusing enough.)

    You could actually learn something here, earthing


    Earthing is very important, as any English electrician or crystal radio enthusiast could tell you.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical. on Sun May 1 11:15:52 2022
    On a sunny day (Sun, 1 May 2022 05:50:02 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote in <4df6f520-c7e2-7a54-0309-5ae3249edab8@electrooptical.net>:

    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:56:51 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman >> <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <t4k7qk$au1$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 16:27, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
    Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers >>>>>> that improve performance, cut costs

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm >>>>>>

    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the kwantuum computah to appear in the local shop.
    There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

    >Max <maxturv26@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
    >On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I've a problem cracking 128 bit keys.
    >> My new Quantum Computer can easily crack Twofish 128 bit keys, but not AES
    >> 128 bit keys.
    >>
    >> I wonder why? Some ideas ?
    >>
    >
    >Have you tried turning it off and on again?

    :-)

    But the article shows the problems with the short lifetime of the quantum state.

    As to 'supper computahs'. Our brain is much better at solving complex problems.
    Not so much silly mamamatical cracking but the bigger view.
    IMNSHO.

    The quantum jive somehow always reminds me of analog computers,
    like many states a capacitor can hold many voltage levels.

    In essence we are all quantum coupled, quite possible the brain already uses it, likely even.
    we are just discovering.


    I was just wondering. You refute the existence of photons, even though
    there is good evidence, and now you talk of quantum coupled brains,
    which is balderdash. I think your world view is in need of a spring
    cleaning.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Really? most fishsicks today is wrong.
    Bunch of idiots at CERN think that by shooting a Mercedes and Ferrari together at 10,000 km/h
    will give them insight into how the car's electronics work.
    Ever faster collisions, God particle, money sucking crap,
    only thing those tunnels are good for is bomb shelters. once the US attacks to get hold of the Swiss banks.

    Photon is just a mamamatical construction by their religious leader Onestone.
    I have spoken.

    You do realize that if I wiggle a what you earthlings call 'electron'; its effect if felt a bit later
    anywhere else by all other electrons?

    Simply explained for example by seeing that a state of a Le Sage type particle is a transmitter for EM radiation.
    Wow, now graffiti and lied have the same speed.

    xcuse my rand earthling
    Back to the tunnels you go!


    Jan, you're losing your touch. You have to target your trolling a bit
    better for maximum effect. ;) (Maybe you're trying to chase 'rbowman'
    out of your rightful ecological niche. He has been making a bid for it >lately, whoever he is. Or maybe he wants to be the new John Fields, but >isn't amusing enough.)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    You could actually learn something here, earthing

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  • From Flyguy@21:1/5 to Phil Hobbs on Sun May 1 18:22:34 2022
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 4:19:28 AM UTC-7, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sun, 1 May 2022 05:50:02 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote in <4df6f520-c7e2-7a54...@electrooptical.net>:

    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:56:51 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman
    <jer...@nospam.please> wrote in <t4k7qk$au1$1...@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 16:27, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman
    <jer...@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1...@gioia.aioe.org>: >>>>>
    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
    Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers >>>>>>> that improve performance, cut costs

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm >>>>>>>

    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the kwantuum computah to appear in the local shop.
    There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

    Max <maxt...@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1...@gioia.aioe.org>: >>>>> >On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Hello,

    I've a problem cracking 128 bit keys.
    My new Quantum Computer can easily crack Twofish 128 bit keys, but not AES
    128 bit keys.

    I wonder why? Some ideas ?


    Have you tried turning it off and on again?

    :-)

    But the article shows the problems with the short lifetime of the quantum state.

    As to 'supper computahs'. Our brain is much better at solving complex problems.
    Not so much silly mamamatical cracking but the bigger view.
    IMNSHO.

    The quantum jive somehow always reminds me of analog computers,
    like many states a capacitor can hold many voltage levels.

    In essence we are all quantum coupled, quite possible the brain already uses it, likely even.
    we are just discovering.


    I was just wondering. You refute the existence of photons, even though >>>> there is good evidence, and now you talk of quantum coupled brains,
    which is balderdash. I think your world view is in need of a spring
    cleaning.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Really? most fishsicks today is wrong.
    Bunch of idiots at CERN think that by shooting a Mercedes and Ferrari together at 10,000 km/h
    will give them insight into how the car's electronics work.
    Ever faster collisions, God particle, money sucking crap,
    only thing those tunnels are good for is bomb shelters. once the US attacks to get hold of the Swiss banks.

    Photon is just a mamamatical construction by their religious leader Onestone.
    I have spoken.

    You do realize that if I wiggle a what you earthlings call 'electron'; its effect if felt a bit later
    anywhere else by all other electrons?

    Simply explained for example by seeing that a state of a Le Sage type particle is a transmitter for EM radiation.
    Wow, now graffiti and lied have the same speed.

    xcuse my rand earthling
    Back to the tunnels you go!


    Jan, you're losing your touch. You have to target your trolling a bit
    better for maximum effect. ;) (Maybe you're trying to chase 'rbowman'
    out of your rightful ecological niche. He has been making a bid for it
    lately, whoever he is. Or maybe he wants to be the new John Fields, but
    isn't amusing enough.)
    You could actually learn something here, earthing

    Earthing is very important, as any English electrician or crystal radio enthusiast could tell you.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    Here is a good survey article on quantum computing: https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2010/2010.15559.pdf

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Mon May 2 09:13:45 2022
    Flyguy wrote:
    On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 4:19:28 AM UTC-7, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sun, 1 May 2022 05:50:02 -0400) it happened Phil Hobbs
    <pcdhSpamM...@electrooptical.net> wrote in
    <4df6f520-c7e2-7a54...@electrooptical.net>:

    Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 22:56:51 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman
    <jer...@nospam.please> wrote in <t4k7qk$au1$1...@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 16:27, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman
    <jer...@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1...@gioia.aioe.org>: >>>>>>>
    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
    Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers >>>>>>>>> that improve performance, cut costs

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm >>>>>>>>>

    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the kwantuum computah to appear in the local shop.
    There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

    Max <maxt...@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1...@gioia.aioe.org>: >>>>>>>> On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    Hello,

    I've a problem cracking 128 bit keys.
    My new Quantum Computer can easily crack Twofish 128 bit keys, but not AES
    128 bit keys.

    I wonder why? Some ideas ?


    Have you tried turning it off and on again?

    :-)

    But the article shows the problems with the short lifetime of the quantum state.

    As to 'supper computahs'. Our brain is much better at solving complex problems.
    Not so much silly mamamatical cracking but the bigger view.
    IMNSHO.

    The quantum jive somehow always reminds me of analog computers,
    like many states a capacitor can hold many voltage levels.

    In essence we are all quantum coupled, quite possible the brain already uses it, likely even.
    we are just discovering.


    I was just wondering. You refute the existence of photons, even though >>>>>> there is good evidence, and now you talk of quantum coupled brains, >>>>>> which is balderdash. I think your world view is in need of a spring >>>>>> cleaning.

    Jeroen Belleman

    Really? most fishsicks today is wrong.
    Bunch of idiots at CERN think that by shooting a Mercedes and Ferrari together at 10,000 km/h
    will give them insight into how the car's electronics work.
    Ever faster collisions, God particle, money sucking crap,
    only thing those tunnels are good for is bomb shelters. once the US attacks to get hold of the Swiss banks.

    Photon is just a mamamatical construction by their religious leader Onestone.
    I have spoken.

    You do realize that if I wiggle a what you earthlings call 'electron'; its effect if felt a bit later
    anywhere else by all other electrons?

    Simply explained for example by seeing that a state of a Le Sage type particle is a transmitter for EM radiation.
    Wow, now graffiti and lied have the same speed.

    xcuse my rand earthling
    Back to the tunnels you go!


    Jan, you're losing your touch. You have to target your trolling a bit
    better for maximum effect. ;) (Maybe you're trying to chase 'rbowman'
    out of your rightful ecological niche. He has been making a bid for it >>>> lately, whoever he is. Or maybe he wants to be the new John Fields, but >>>> isn't amusing enough.)
    You could actually learn something here, earthing

    Earthing is very important, as any English electrician or crystal radio
    enthusiast could tell you.


    Here is a good survey article on quantum computing: https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/2010/2010.15559.pdf

    I actually have a patent in quantum computing, though I haven't done
    anything there since leaving IBM. ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to Jeroen Belleman on Tue May 3 10:16:25 2022
    Jeroen Belleman wrote:
    On 2022-04-30 16:27, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen
    Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
       Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers
       that improve performance, cut costs

       https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm


    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the kwantuum computah to appear in the
    local shop.
    There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

      >Max <maxturv26@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
      >On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
      >> Hello,
      >>
      >> I've a problem cracking 128 bit keys.
      >> My new Quantum Computer can easily crack Twofish 128 bit keys,
    but not AES
      >> 128 bit keys.
      >>
      >> I wonder why? Some ideas ?
      >>
      >
      >Have you tried turning it off and on again?

    :-)

    But the article shows the problems with the short lifetime of the
    quantum state.

    As to 'supper computahs'. Our brain is much better at solving complex
    problems.
    Not so much silly mamamatical cracking but the bigger view.
    IMNSHO.

    The quantum jive somehow always reminds me of analog computers,
    like many states a capacitor can hold many voltage levels.

    In essence we are all quantum coupled, quite possible the brain
    already uses it, likely even.
    we are just discovering.


    I was just wondering. You refute the existence of photons, even though
    there is good evidence, and now you talk of quantum coupled brains,
    which is balderdash. I think your world view is in need of a spring
    cleaning.

    Or maybe we all just need to take Jan's stuff at the intended level,
    i.e. mainly teasing, which makes it fun. He's very good at winding up
    the more solemn folks here, and seems to have a very good time doing it.

    Stolid leftists, andipodean loonies, Windows enthusiasts, and
    Californians seem to make excellent subjects. ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

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  • From Jeroen Belleman@21:1/5 to Phil Hobbs on Tue May 3 16:25:51 2022
    On 2022-05-03 16:16, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    Jeroen Belleman wrote:
    On 2022-04-30 16:27, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
    Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers
    that improve performance, cut costs

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm


    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the kwantuum computah to appear in the local shop.
    There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

    >Max <maxturv26@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
    >On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I've a problem cracking 128 bit keys.
    >> My new Quantum Computer can easily crack Twofish 128 bit keys, but not AES
    >> 128 bit keys.
    >>
    >> I wonder why? Some ideas ?
    >>
    >
    >Have you tried turning it off and on again?

    :-)

    But the article shows the problems with the short lifetime of the quantum state.

    As to 'supper computahs'. Our brain is much better at solving complex problems.
    Not so much silly mamamatical cracking but the bigger view.
    IMNSHO.

    The quantum jive somehow always reminds me of analog computers,
    like many states a capacitor can hold many voltage levels.

    In essence we are all quantum coupled, quite possible the brain already uses it, likely even.
    we are just discovering.


    I was just wondering. You refute the existence of photons, even though
    there is good evidence, and now you talk of quantum coupled brains,
    which is balderdash. I think your world view is in need of a spring
    cleaning.

    Or maybe we all just need to take Jan's stuff at the intended level, i.e. mainly teasing, which makes it fun. He's very good at winding up the more solemn folks here, and seems to have a very good time doing it.

    Stolid leftists, andipodean loonies, Windows enthusiasts, and Californians seem to make excellent subjects. ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    I just noticed that my kill list eliminates over 75% of all postings
    in this news group, but Jan isn't on it. I think he's actually a nice
    fellow.

    Jeroen Belleman

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to Jeroen Belleman on Tue May 3 10:39:52 2022
    Jeroen Belleman wrote:
    On 2022-05-03 16:16, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    Jeroen Belleman wrote:
    On 2022-04-30 16:27, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen
    Belleman
    <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
       Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers >>>>>>    that improve performance, cut costs

       https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm


    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the kwantuum computah to appear in the
    local shop.
    There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

      >Max <maxturv26@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1@gioia.aioe.org>:
      >On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
      >> Hello,
      >>
      >> I've a problem cracking 128 bit keys.
      >> My new Quantum Computer can easily crack Twofish 128 bit keys,
    but not AES
      >> 128 bit keys.
      >>
      >> I wonder why? Some ideas ?
      >>
      >
      >Have you tried turning it off and on again?

    :-)

    But the article shows the problems with the short lifetime of the
    quantum state.

    As to 'supper computahs'. Our brain is much better at solving
    complex problems.
    Not so much silly mamamatical cracking but the bigger view.
    IMNSHO.

    The quantum jive somehow always reminds me of analog computers,
    like many states a capacitor can hold many voltage levels.

    In essence we are all quantum coupled, quite possible the brain
    already uses it, likely even.
    we are just discovering.


    I was just wondering. You refute the existence of photons, even though
    there is good evidence, and now you talk of quantum coupled brains,
    which is balderdash. I think your world view is in need of a spring
    cleaning.

    Or maybe we all just need to take Jan's stuff at the intended level,
    i.e. mainly teasing, which makes it fun.  He's very good at winding up
    the more solemn folks here, and seems to have a very good time doing it.

    Stolid leftists, andipodean loonies,  Windows enthusiasts, and
    Californians seem to make excellent subjects. ;)


    I just noticed that my kill list eliminates over 75% of all postings
    in this news group, but Jan isn't on it. I think he's actually a nice
    fellow.

    Agreed, though he'll probably ridicule us unmercifully for complimenting
    him. ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Phil Hobbs on Tue May 3 07:58:29 2022
    On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 12:16:31 AM UTC+10, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    Jeroen Belleman wrote:
    On 2022-04-30 16:27, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Sat, 30 Apr 2022 14:46:26 +0200) it happened Jeroen
    Belleman
    <jer...@nospam.please> wrote in <t4jb32$1cuo$1...@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 2022-04-30 08:05, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    Nice board:
    Engineers develop new control electronics for quantum computers
    that improve performance, cut costs

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220429144931.htm


    What now Jan? Have you turned into a quantum convert?

    Hehe,
    well I am still waiting for the kwantuum computah to appear in the
    local shop.
    There was a recent joke in sci.crypt:

    >Max <maxt...@gmx.net> wrote in <t4ehp7$13eu$1...@gioia.aioe.org>:
    >On 28.04.22 00:04, Nomen Nescio wrote:
    >> Hello,
    >>
    >> I've a problem cracking 128 bit keys.
    >> My new Quantum Computer can easily crack Twofish 128 bit keys,
    but not AES
    >> 128 bit keys.
    >>
    >> I wonder why? Some ideas ?
    >>
    >
    >Have you tried turning it off and on again?

    :-)

    But the article shows the problems with the short lifetime of the
    quantum state.

    As to 'supper computahs'. Our brain is much better at solving complex
    problems.
    Not so much silly mamamatical cracking but the bigger view.
    IMNSHO.

    The quantum jive somehow always reminds me of analog computers,
    like many states a capacitor can hold many voltage levels.

    In essence we are all quantum coupled, quite possible the brain
    already uses it, likely even.
    we are just discovering.


    I was just wondering. You refute the existence of photons, even though there is good evidence, and now you talk of quantum coupled brains,
    which is balderdash. I think your world view is in need of a spring cleaning.
    Or maybe we all just need to take Jan's stuff at the intended level,
    i.e. mainly teasing, which makes it fun. He's very good at winding up
    the more solemn folks here, and seems to have a very good time doing it.

    Stolid leftists, andipodean loonies, Windows enthusiasts, and
    Californians seem to make excellent subjects. ;)

    But the Le Sage corpuscular theory of gravity?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Sage%27s_theory_of_gravitation

    It has impressed any number of fairly impressive people as superficially plausible, but once they get stuck into it, it comes to pieces. As teasing goes, it's pretty irresponsible. If it provoked Feynman into wasting time on it, less talented people
    could waste a lot more time thinking about it before they chucked it out.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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