• Terrifying warning

    From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 26 06:05:06 2022
    Hi,

    "... the world is going to be blown to pieces "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXezcmXLgM

    Putin keeps threatening the use of Russia's nukes if western democracies continue to "interfere" with his campaign of mass murder in Ukraine.

    The use of just one of them will likely unleash a whirlwind.

    Sleep well America, knowing your frighteningly corrupt leaders are both stupid and asleep.



    ..... Phil

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to Allison on Tue Apr 26 13:34:35 2022
    On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:05:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phil
    Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote in <c2793cfc-d412-47fa-b36d-8a3c906ba1a0n@googlegroups.com>:

    Hi,

    "... the world is going to be blown to pieces "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXezcmXLgM

    Putin keeps threatening the use of Russia's nukes if western democracies continue to "interfere" with his campaign of mass
    murder in Ukraine.

    The use of just one of them will likely unleash a whirlwind.

    Sleep well America, knowing your frighteningly corrupt leaders are both stupid and asleep.



    ..... Phil

    It all depends..
    just got an email in German that all my accounts are hacked and they want ?? bitcoins in 72 hours to not do whatever.

    Part of it in German:
    <quote>
    , Ich mache keine Fehler
    ! Solltest du mit jemanden uber diese E-Mail reden oder zur Polizei gehen so werden die Daten veroffentlicht,
    da ich vollen zugriff auf ihre Gerate habe bekomm ich dies naturlich sofort mit.
    Wenn Sie bezahlen, brauchen Sie sich keine Sorgen zu machen.
    Ich bin ein stolzer Ukrainer und ich halte mein Wort. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Dieses Geld wird bei uns momentan sehr dringend benotigt, um diesen Krieg zu beenden,
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    deswegen muss ich zu diesem Mittel greifen.
    Sobald Sie bezahlen und das Geld auf meiner Wallet eingeht wird der Virus vollig automatisch entfernt und ich losche Ihre Kontaktdaten,
    alle Passworter und alle ihre anderen daten von meiner Festplatte,
    dann werden sie nie wieder von mir hoheren!
    <end quote>

    I underlined the part where it says it needs the bitcoins for Ukrain.
    Hope Putin nukes the shit out of him before the 73 hours have passed :-)

    German readers ?

    I did some research and made some calls and now special forces are closing in on the sender.
    Am still online :-)
    As to that war it was started with Biden, by Biden and his corrupt son, and is all about selling weapons.
    I pointed somebody to this song by Bob Dylan:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEmI_FT4YHU

    says it all.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Tue Apr 26 07:14:46 2022
    On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:05:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phil Allison <palli...@gmail.com> wrote in <c2793cfc-d412-47fa...@googlegroups.com>:
    Hi,

    "... the world is going to be blown to pieces "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXezcmXLgM

    Putin keeps threatening the use of Russia's nukes if western democracies continue to "interfere" with his campaign of mass murder in Ukraine.

    The use of just one of them will likely unleash a whirlwind.

    And even a nutcase like Putin should realise that he would be one of the first to get blown away.
    With any luck, some Russian will smear Novichok in his underpants - much cheaper than a nuclear weapon, and fewer side-effects.

    Sleep well America, knowing your frighteningly corrupt leaders are both stupid and asleep.

    It's not as if Australia is any better off. Dutch politicians are rather less crooked, but they do have less to sell.

    As to that war it was started with Biden, by Biden and his corrupt son, and is all about selling weapons.

    Singularly clever of them to persuade the Russian army to invade the Ukraine. It really motivated the Ukranians to buy tank busting shoulder launched anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.

    Of course if was all about selling weapons they'd be selling more expensive weapons (like F35 fighters) to people who had a lot more money.

    <snip Jan being even sillier than usual>

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to William Sloman on Tue Apr 26 16:18:28 2022
    On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 07:14:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <600c914f-c8d8-4b46-b921-6b6f6ecebbdbn@googlegroups.com>:

    On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:05:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phil
    Allison <palli...@gmail.com> wrote in
    <c2793cfc-d412-47fa...@googlegroups.com>:
    Hi,

    "... the world is going to be blown to pieces "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXezcmXLgM

    Putin keeps threatening the use of Russia's nukes if western democracies continue to "interfere" with his campaign of mass
    murder in Ukraine.

    The use of just one of them will likely unleash a whirlwind.

    And even a nutcase like Putin should realise that he would be one of the first to get blown away.
    With any luck, some Russian will smear Novichok in his underpants - much cheaper than a nuclear weapon, and fewer side-effects.

    Sleep well America, knowing your frighteningly corrupt leaders are both stupid and asleep.

    It's not as if Australia is any better off. Dutch politicians are rather less crooked, but they do have less to sell.

    As to that war it was started with Biden, by Biden and his corrupt son, and is all about selling weapons.

    Singularly clever of them to persuade the Russian army to invade the Ukraine.

    Biden talked to Putin, remember, likely asked him "what would it take for us to do to make you invade Ukrain"


    It really motivated the Ukranians to buy tank
    busting shoulder launched anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.

    Of course if was all about selling weapons they'd be selling more expensive weapons (like F35 fighters) to people who had a lot
    more money.

    That is what they are doing now in Germany, old equipment goes to Ukrain, and Germany get Fr5 crap


    <snip Jan being even sillier than usual>

    You sound like just a broken record repeatng what your local brainwashing machine printed on it.
    Just a pawn in their game.
    Wake up Billy WAKE UP!!!!!

    It took many years of Vietnam war before the youngsters rose up and had Woodstock
    Country Joe and the fish
    https://www.lyricsbox.com/country-joe-and-the-fish-vietnam-song-live-from-woodstock-lyrics-dzgc6jx.html
    Military Industrial Complex
    Where have you been?

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Tue Apr 26 21:04:19 2022
    Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote in news:t4967a$raj$1@dont-email.me:

    Biden talked to Putin, remember, likely asked him "what would it
    take for us to do to make you invade Ukrain"


    Goddamn I wish somebody would find your retarded ass and beat you to
    death with a baseball bat. You STUPID fucking idiot!

    Trump was all up in Putin and doing his bidding NOT Biden, you STUPID
    FUCK!

    You obviously are the one lacking a memory.

    Die already, stupid old man!

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com on Tue Apr 26 23:33:37 2022
    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:18:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    You sound like just a broken record repeatng what your local brainwashing machine printed on it.
    Just a pawn in their game.
    Wake up Billy WAKE UP!!!!!

    It took many years of Vietnam war before the youngsters rose up and had Woodstock
    Country Joe and the fish
    https://www.lyricsbox.com/country-joe-and-the-fish-vietnam-song-live-from-woodstock-lyrics-dzgc6jx.html
    Military Industrial Complex
    Where have you been?

    One thing Bill Soman absolutely cannot be is brainwashed. In order for
    that to be true, he'd have to have a brain in the first place.
    Nothing is as it appears on TV.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGig5dhnSs

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Tue Apr 26 20:07:51 2022
    On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:22:10 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 07:14:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in <600c914f-c8d8-4b46...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:05:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phil >> Allison <palli...@gmail.com> wrote in
    <c2793cfc-d412-47fa...@googlegroups.com>:
    Hi,

    "... the world is going to be blown to pieces "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXezcmXLgM

    Putin keeps threatening the use of Russia's nukes if western democracies continue to "interfere" with his campaign of mass
    murder in Ukraine.

    The use of just one of them will likely unleash a whirlwind.

    And even a nutcase like Putin should realise that he would be one of the first to get blown away.

    With any luck, some Russian will smear Novichok in his underpants - much cheaper than a nuclear weapon, and fewer side-effects.

    Sleep well America, knowing your frighteningly corrupt leaders are both stupid and asleep.

    It's not as if Australia is any better off. Dutch politicians are rather less crooked, but they do have less to sell.

    As to that war it was started with Biden, by Biden and his corrupt son, and is all about selling weapons.

    Singularly clever of them to persuade the Russian army to invade the Ukraine.

    Biden talked to Putin, remember, likely asked him "what would it take for us to do to make you invade Ukraine".

    Jan Panteltje has the same kind of bizarre imagination as John Doe and Cursitor Doom.

    It really motivated the Ukranians to buy tank busting shoulder launched anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.

    Of course if was all about selling weapons they'd be selling more expensive weapons (like F35 fighters) to people who had a lot more money.

    That is what they are doing now in Germany, old equipment goes to Ukraine, and Germany get F35 crap.

    The F35 fighter isn't actually crap. Jan doesn't like it because one flies over his head about once a month - they certainly used to fly low over Nijmegen back when I lived there and it was noisy.

    <snip Jan being even sillier than usual>

    You sound like just a broken record repeatng what your local brainwashing machine printed on it.

    Funny that you should should mention that. You do seem to re-post a lot of silly propaganda, and may actually believe that other people are just as gullible as you are.

    Just a pawn in their game.
    Wake up Billy WAKE UP!!!!!

    Grow up Jan! Not that there's much chance that you could

    It took many years of Vietnam war before the youngsters rose up and had Woodstock.

    Australian's didn't like conscription being reintroduced to provide Australian cannon-fodder for Vietnam. My younger brother was born six weeks premature, six hours before he would have become vulnerable to being called up. Only about 10% of the
    Australian's called up were judged fit enough to be worth conscripting unless they were doctors or dentists or civil engineers (as he was).
    Woodstock was 1969. He learned how lucky he been a few years earlier.

    Military Industrial Complex

    A term famously used by Eisenhower in 1961.

    Where have you been?

    Not under the particular rock where you seem to hang out. Like John Doe and Cursitor Doom, you have your preferred delusions. Not sharing them isn't proof of sanity, but anybody who does share any of them has to be crazy.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Tue Apr 26 20:17:41 2022
    On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 8:33:46 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Tue, 26 Apr 2022 16:18:28 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    You sound like just a broken record repeatng what your local brainwashing machine printed on it.
    Just a pawn in their game.
    Wake up Billy WAKE UP!!!!!

    It took many years of Vietnam war before the youngsters rose up and had Woodstock
    Country Joe and the fish
    https://www.lyricsbox.com/country-joe-and-the-fish-vietnam-song-live-from-woodstock-lyrics-dzgc6jx.html
    Military Industrial Complex
    Where have you been?

    One thing Bill Soman absolutely cannot be is brainwashed. In order for that to be true, he'd have to have a brain in the first place.

    In fact I'd have to have the kind of deeply defective brain that makes Cursitor Doom an addict to fatuous nonsense. The more fatuous the nonsense, the more avid his enthusiasm.

    Nothing is as it appears on TV.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGig5dhnSs

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lara_Logan

    She got banned from Fox News for pushing such absurd nonsense that even Fox News had to get shot of her.

    Cursitor Doom is clearly even less discriminating than Fox News. Murdoch curates gullilble idiots for his advertisers, but few of them are as gullible as Cursitor Doom.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to William Sloman on Wed Apr 27 09:59:18 2022
    On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:07:51 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <a019f887-37b1-4896-87af-6a450a9d40ean@googlegroups.com>:

    On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:22:10 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 07:14:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthon= >y
    William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
    <600c914f-c8d8-4b46...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:=

    On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:05:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phi= >l
    Allison <palli...@gmail.com> wrote in
    <c2793cfc-d412-47fa...@googlegroups.com>:
    Hi,

    "... the world is going to be blown to pieces "

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXezcmXLgM

    Putin keeps threatening the use of Russia's nukes if western democrac= >ies continue to "interfere" with his campaign of mass
    murder in Ukraine.

    The use of just one of them will likely unleash a whirlwind.

    And even a nutcase like Putin should realise that he would be one of the=
    first to get blown away.

    With any luck, some Russian will smear Novichok in his underpants - much=
    cheaper than a nuclear weapon, and fewer side-effects.

    Sleep well America, knowing your frighteningly corrupt leaders are bo= >th stupid and asleep.

    It's not as if Australia is any better off. Dutch politicians are rather=
    less crooked, but they do have less to sell.

    As to that war it was started with Biden, by Biden and his corrupt son= >, and is all about selling weapons.

    Singularly clever of them to persuade the Russian army to invade the Ukr= >aine.

    Biden talked to Putin, remember, likely asked him "what would it take for=
    us to do to make you invade Ukraine".

    Jan Panteltje has the same kind of bizarre imagination as John Doe and Curs= >itor Doom.

    It really motivated the Ukranians to buy tank busting shoulder launched = >anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.

    Of course if was all about selling weapons they'd be selling more expens= >ive weapons (like F35 fighters) to people who had a lot more money.

    That is what they are doing now in Germany, old equipment goes to Ukraine= >, and Germany get F35 crap.

    The F35 fighter isn't actually crap. Jan doesn't like it because one flies = >over his head about once a month - they certainly used to fly low over Nijm= >egen back when I lived there and it was noisy.

    Its a one engine disaster request
    a decent fighter hae 2 engines, so if one gete hit it often makes it home on the other one
    In case of fuck35 it costs every time a new one: SALES
    Snake oil, as is 'stealth' I can detect the things here in many ways.

    <snip Jan being even sillier than usual>

    You sound like just a broken record repeatng what your local brainwashing=
    machine printed on it.

    Funny that you should should mention that. You do seem to re-post a lot of = >silly propaganda, and may actually believe that other people are just as gu= >llible as you are.

    I don't post propaganda, merely sometimes try to wake you hypnotized poor humming beans to wake up
    !CLICKs fingers ..Will it work for Billy>>> eeeeh

    Just a pawn in their game.
    Wake up Billy WAKE UP!!!!!

    Grow up Jan! Not that there's much chance that you could

    Yea at my age I wont't get any longer, not with US snake oil either

    It took many years of Vietnam war before the youngsters rose up and had W= >oodstock.

    Australian's didn't like conscription being reintroduced to provide Austral= >ian cannon-fodder for Vietnam. My younger brother was born six weeks premat= >ure, six hours before he would have become vulnerable to being called up. O= >nly about 10% of the Australian's called up were judged fit enough to be w= >orth conscripting unless they were doctors or dentists or civil engineers (= >as he was).
    Woodstock was 1969. He learned how lucky he been a few years earlier.

    Military Industrial Complex

    A term famously used by Eisenhower in 1961.

    Where have you been?

    Not under the particular rock where you seem to hang out.

    Nothing but accusations. snipped.
    Well, if the CLICK did not wake you up then "who is not busy being born is busy dying" likely applies.
    (from one of Bob Dylan's songs, yes I had his records, played it a lot in the sixties and early seventies.
    Now on mp3 here.

    I still get the impression you must have some reason to sing along with Aussies rulers.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Wed Apr 27 06:33:11 2022
    On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:59:37 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 20:07:51 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in<a019f887-37b1-4896...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 2:22:10 AM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 07:14:46 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
    <600c914f-c8d8-4b46...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:38:16 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:= >> >> On a sunny day (Tue, 26 Apr 2022 06:05:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Phil Allison <palli...@gmail.com> wrote in
    <c2793cfc-d412-47fa...@googlegroups.com>:

    <snip>

    Jan Panteltje has the same kind of bizarre imagination as John Doe and Cursitor Doom.

    It really motivated the Ukranians to buy tank busting shoulder launched anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles.

    Of course if was all about selling weapons they'd be selling more expensive weapons (like F35 fighters) to people who had a lot more money.

    That is what they are doing now in Germany, old equipment goes to Ukraine and Germany get F35 crap.

    The F35 fighter isn't actually crap. Jan doesn't like it because one flies = over his head about once a month - they certainly used to fly low over Nijmegen back when I lived there and it was noisy.

    Its a one engine disaster request. A decent fighter has 2 engines, so if one gets hit it often makes it home on the other one.

    Mostly when jet fighters get hit they fall apart and the pilot has to eject if he wasn't hit too.

    Civil aircraft are used in rather different ways, and having two engines pays off rather more often.

    In case of F35 it costs every time a new one: SALES

    Military aircraft don't last, even in peacetime. They are nice little earners for the people who make them.

    Snake oil, as is 'stealth' I can detect the things here in many ways.

    But fast enough to let you shoot it down?

    <snip Jan being even sillier than usual>

    You sound like just a broken record repeatng what your local brainwashing machine printed on it.

    Funny that you should should mention that. You do seem to re-post a lot of silly propaganda, and may actually believe that other people are just as gullible as you are.

    I don't post propaganda, merely sometimes try to wake you hypnotized poor human beings to wake up

    You are remarkably gullible.

    !CLICKs fingers ..Will it work for Billy>>> eeeeh
    Just a pawn in their game.
    Wake up Billy WAKE UP!!!!!

    Grow up Jan! Not that there's much chance that you could.

    Yes at my age I won't get any younger, not with US snake oil either.

    Medical science isn't exclusively American. Some of it does work, but undoing the effects of aging doesn't seem to be one of the tricks that it has mastered yet.

    It took many years of Vietnam war before the youngsters rose up and had Woodstock.

    Australian's didn't like conscription being reintroduced to provide Australian cannon-fodder for Vietnam. My younger brother was born six weeks premature, six hours before he would have become vulnerable to being called up. Only about 10% of the
    Australian's called up were judged fit enough to be worth conscripting, unless they were doctors or dentists or civil engineers (as he was).
    Woodstock was 1969. He learned how lucky he been a few years earlier.

    Military Industrial Complex

    A term famously used by Eisenhower in 1961.

    Where have you been?

    Not under the particular rock where you seem to hang out.

    Nothing but accusations. snipped.

    I'm not accusing you of anything. I am pointing out that you do seem to be gullible and ill-informed, but those are observations, not accusations.

    Well, if the CLICK did not wake you up then "who is not busy being born is busy dying" likely applies.

    You do start getting older as soon as you are conceived - being born doesn't make any difference to that. Aging does reliably end in death, but you can't be said to be dying until the problem that eventually kills you has become obvious enough to notice.

    <snipped more idiocy>

    I still get the impression you must have some reason to sing along with Aussies rulers.

    I don't. I agree with them when they get stuff right, which doesn't happen all that often. "All the way with LBJ" went down better with some Australian politicians than it did with the country as a whole. Mark Rutte is a much better politician than any
    of the prime ministers we've had since Rutte came to power.

    Julia Gillard - who was in power from 2010 to 2013 - might have been in the same league, but Kevin Rudd - who replaced her as leader of the Labor Party, promptly lost the next election to the appalling Tony Abbott, who lasted for almost two years 2013
    to 2015 until his party realised what a cretin he was and replaced him by Malcom Turnbull, who was a whole lot better and consequently unacceptable to the right wing of the Liberal Party and only lasted from 2015 to 2018, when he got replaced by Scott
    Morrison - Scottie from Marketing - who been prime minister since then, and has not done anything positive enough to get himself kicked out. He did promise to install a Federal Independent Commission Against Corruption at the last election, but had to
    propose such a toothless authority that he couldn't get anybody in the Senate to vote for it - anything with any real power to root out corruption would have put most of his cabinet into prison. We've got an election coming up in a couple of weeks, and
    he will lose if the polls are to be relied on (which they aren't).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to William Sloman on Thu Apr 28 06:24:09 2022
    On a sunny day (Wed, 27 Apr 2022 06:33:11 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <9ab3b692-e863-4f61-89f3-48c2232d0c3an@googlegroups.com>:

    On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:59:37 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    ..F35..
    Its a one engine disaster request. A decent fighter has 2 engines, so if = >one gets hit it often makes it home on the other one.

    Mostly when jet fighters get hit they fall apart and the pilot has to eject=
    if he wasn't hit too.

    I have read stries of jet pilots in a war situation who made it back with one engine
    buys you a lot of chocolade :-)

    Civil aircraft are used in rather different ways, and having two engines pa= >ys off rather more often.

    In case of F35 it costs every time a new one: SALES

    Military aircraft don't last, even in peacetime. They are nice little earne= >rs for the people who make them.

    Right the Militatry Industrial Complex

    Snake oil, as is 'stealth' I can detect the things here in many ways.

    But fast enough to let you shoot it down?

    Depends on the situation and weapon,
    sure if you have the laser gun you just burn a hole, in the jet and / or the pilot
    If it is not supersonic any missile that can detect its heat signature or what it looks like (object recognision) will do.
    Here they never fly fast but low and slow, any kid with a slingshot next to where they land will do.
    Start a swarm of 50 dollar drones in the takeoff path, local agent is all you need.



    Grow up Jan! Not that there's much chance that you could.

    Yes at my age I won't get any younger, not with US snake oil either.

    Medical science isn't exclusively American. Some of it does work, but undoi= >ng the effects of aging doesn't seem to be one of the tricks that it has ma= >stered yet.

    Depends:
    skin cells made 30 years younger:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220408083901.htm

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Thu Apr 28 09:57:39 2022
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:24:18 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Wed, 27 Apr 2022 06:33:11 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in <9ab3b692-e863-4f61...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:59:37 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote: ..F35..
    Its a one engine disaster request. A decent fighter has 2 engines, so if = >one gets hit it often makes it home on the other one.

    Mostly when jet fighters get hit they fall apart and the pilot has to eject if he wasn't hit too.

    I have read stories of jet pilots in a war situation who made it back with one engine - buys you a lot of chocolate :-)

    But you can't post a link to any of them. Jet bombers frequently have several engines, and we were talking about fighters.

    Civil aircraft are used in rather different ways, and having two engines pays off rather more often.

    In case of F35 it costs every time a new one: SALES

    Military aircraft don't last, even in peacetime. They are nice little earners for the people who make them.

    Right the Military Industrial Complex.

    Not necessarily. Aircraft manufacturers tend to make both military and civil aircraft. The skills are much the same, even if the aircraft aren't.

    Snake oil, as is 'stealth' I can detect the things here in many ways.

    But fast enough to let you shoot it down?

    Depends on the situation and weapon, sure if you have the laser gun you just burn a hole, in the jet and / or the pilot.

    Does any such "laser gun" actually exist? The Americans did put a high power laser into fairly big freight-carrying aircraft, but it didn't work well enough to become any kind of weapon system.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_Laser

    If it is not supersonic any missile that can detect its heat signature or what it looks like (object recognision) will do.
    Here they never fly fast but low and slow, any kid with a slingshot next to where they land will do.
    Start a swarm of 50 dollar drones in the takeoff path, local agent is all you need.

    That's why airfields have local radar. You'd better think that one out again. "Low and slow" just means not supersonic.

    Planes that are set up for terrain-following have to have control systems that don't shake their pilots to death.

    Grow up Jan! Not that there's much chance that you could.

    Yes at my age I won't get any younger, not with US snake oil either.

    Medical science isn't exclusively American. Some of it does work, but undoing the effects of aging doesn't seem to be one of the tricks that it has mastered yet.

    Depends: skin cells made 30 years younger: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220408083901.htm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babraham_Institute

    The usual sort of puff for some very leading edge research that is a long way from any practical application.

    I worked in Cambridge from 1983 to 1993, and lots of university researchers were convinced that their research would solve our practical problems.

    We were rather better at solving their practical problems (which were frequently trivial) than they were at solving ours (which tended to be rather more complicated than they'd imagined).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to William Sloman on Thu Apr 28 17:32:13 2022
    On a sunny day (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 09:57:39 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <4a1fbaa5-fc08-4fc3-944b-3c1bbb494354n@googlegroups.com>:

    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 4:24:18 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Wed, 27 Apr 2022 06:33:11 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony >> William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
    <9ab3b692-e863-4f61...@googlegroups.com>:
    On Wednesday, April 27, 2022 at 7:59:37 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    ..F35..
    Its a one engine disaster request. A decent fighter has 2 engines, so if =
    one gets hit it often makes it home on the other one.

    Mostly when jet fighters get hit they fall apart and the pilot has to eject if he wasn't hit too.

    I have read stories of jet pilots in a war situation who made it back with one engine - buys you a lot of chocolate :-)

    But you can't post a link to any of them. Jet bombers frequently have several engines, and we were talking about fighters.

    Civil aircraft are used in rather different ways, and having two engines pays off rather more often.

    In case of F35 it costs every time a new one: SALES

    Military aircraft don't last, even in peacetime. They are nice little earners for the people who make them.

    Right the Military Industrial Complex.

    Not necessarily. Aircraft manufacturers tend to make both military and civil aircraft. The skills are much the same, even if the
    aircraft aren't.

    Snake oil, as is 'stealth' I can detect the things here in many ways.

    But fast enough to let you shoot it down?

    Depends on the situation and weapon, sure if you have the laser gun you just burn a hole, in the jet and / or the pilot.

    Does any such "laser gun" actually exist? The Americans did put a high power laser into fairly big freight-carrying aircraft,
    but it didn't work well enough to become any kind of weapon system.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_Laser

    Basically all you need is to blind the pilot
    Sure they may have laser glasses that should block part of the spectrum, but there are many lasers in the visible with high power.
    There is a history of incidents of people shining lasers at civilian aircraft (and also cars) causing vision problems experienced by the pilots.
    Those are mostly just 1 W or so lasers , you can get kW on ebay.


    If it is not supersonic any missile that can detect its heat signature or what it looks like (object recognision) will do.
    Here they never fly fast but low and slow, any kid with a slingshot next to where they land will do.
    Start a swarm of 50 dollar drones in the takeoff path, local agent is all you need.

    That's why airfields have local radar. You'd better think that one out again. "Low and slow" just means not supersonic.

    You'd better get here and see for yurself, I was next to the planes taking off here, there is a parking place there
    http://panteltje.com/pub/leeuwarden_approach_imag0035.jpg
    http://panteltje.com/pub/leeuwarden_start_landing_strip_imag0036.jpg


    Planes that are set up for terrain-following have to have control systems that don't shake their pilots to death.

    Grow up Jan! Not that there's much chance that you could.

    Yes at my age I won't get any younger, not with US snake oil either.

    Medical science isn't exclusively American. Some of it does work, but undoing the effects of aging doesn't seem to be one of
    the tricks that it has mastered yet.

    Depends: skin cells made 30 years younger:
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/04/220408083901.htm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babraham_Institute

    The usual sort of puff for some very leading edge research that is a long way from any practical application.

    I worked in Cambridge from 1983 to 1993, and lots of university researchers were convinced that their research would solve our
    practical problems.

    We were rather better at solving their practical problems (which were frequently trivial) than they were at solving ours (which
    tended to be rather more complicated than they'd imagined).

    Many things are simple, so was the steam engine, the diesel engine and the rocket engine
    Took a while though

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Fri Apr 29 02:47:13 2022
    Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Nothing is as it appears on TV.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGig5dhnSs

    Thanks.

    https://youtu.be/bjGig5dhnSs?t=332

    "We have completely crushed his economy"

    That was the White House six weeks ago, this is reality now...

    "Russian rouble hits near 2-year high vs euro" (not the closing price)

    Fox News' most recent video about Ukraine...

    https://youtu.be/VGnvixtDZJQ

    "Biden requests more military aid for Ukraine: 'This fight is not cheap'"

    74.2% Dislikes

    As with every such video on Fox, it's like a broken record, the vast
    majority of regular Fox viewer comments want us to stay out of the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

    Not mentioning other channels because liberals all over the world are head
    over heels in love with neocons.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Apr 28 20:01:44 2022
    On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 12:47:21 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Nothing is as it appears on TV.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGig5dhnSs
    Thanks.

    https://youtu.be/bjGig5dhnSs?t=332

    "We have completely crushed his economy"

    That was the White House six weeks ago, this is reality now...

    "Russian rouble hits near 2-year high vs euro" (not the closing price)

    Fox News' most recent video about Ukraine...

    https://youtu.be/VGnvixtDZJQ

    "Biden requests more military aid for Ukraine: 'This fight is not cheap'"

    74.2% Dislikes

    As with every such video on Fox, it's like a broken record, the vast
    majority of regular Fox viewer comments want us to stay out of the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

    Fox News is designed to appeal to gullilble idiots. That's Murdoch's business model

    Not mentioning other channels because liberals all over the world are head over heels in love with neocons.

    By "liberals" John Doe presumably means the majority who aren't gullible idiots. Actual neo-conservatives were a bunch of dangerous clowns

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

    and nobody sane regrets their departure. The Iraq disaster discredited them with people who could think, who do seem to be a majority of the population. John Doe isn't one of them.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Apr 28 20:07:29 2022
    On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 12:49:02 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    Biill is a cannibal leftist in love with neocons.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

    There aren't actually any around for anybody to fall in love with. They are as mythical as John Doe's "cannibal leftists". I didn't think much of them when the were active in Iraq, some twenty years ago, and I still think they were a bunch of half-wits.

    <snipped the usual recycled insults, which are even more pathetic out of context>

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Fri Apr 29 03:04:09 2022
    Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Nothing is as it appears on TV.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGig5dhnSs

    https://youtu.be/bjGig5dhnSs?t=542

    There she mentions Alexandra Chalupa, and before that Alexander Vindman.
    Both Ukrainians and virile Trump haters. Then there were all the Ukrainian officials who campaigned against Donald Trump in two thousand sixteen.
    She's right. Ukraine is at the center of the New World Order's campaign to exterminate Russia. Anybody opposed is an enemy of the Deep State.

    https://youtu.be/sKFdNnlTbG4?t=28

    "We fight for this New World Order for the Democratic countries"

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 29 02:48:56 2022
    Bozo is a cannibal leftist in love with neocons.


    Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

    "the user has posted under the same name in other places, so not
    nym-shifting" (Bozo sucks at logic)

    "the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
    (Bozo lying)

    "the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
    (Bozo being weird)

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 29 03:09:19 2022
    https://youtu.be/sKFdNnlTbG4?t=28

    "We fight for this New World Order for the Democratic countries"

    A comment...

    "you werent supposed to read the script word for word lady"

    lol

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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to John Dope on Thu Apr 28 20:33:56 2022
    John Dope wrote:
    ================

    Nothing is as it appears on TV.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGig5dhnSs
    Thanks.

    https://youtu.be/bjGig5dhnSs?t=332

    "We have completely crushed his economy"

    That was the White House six weeks ago, this is reality now...

    "Russian rouble hits near 2-year high vs euro" (not the closing price)

    Fox News' most recent video about Ukraine...

    https://youtu.be/VGnvixtDZJQ

    "Biden requests more military aid for Ukraine: 'This fight is not cheap'"

    74.2% Dislikes


    ** Naturally - since Fox viewers all hate Biden and the looney Dems.
    But there is near zero support for the Russians.


    As with every such video on Fox, it's like a broken record, the vast
    majority of regular Fox viewer comments want us to stay out of the Ukraine-Russia conflict.

    ** Staying out of all foreign wars is a broken record for small minded Yanks .

    Others however can see disaster waits down that narrow path.


    ..... Phil

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Apr 28 20:31:36 2022
    On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 1:04:17 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Nothing is as it appears on TV.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGig5dhnSs
    https://youtu.be/bjGig5dhnSs?t=542

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lara_Logan

    She's such a complete flake that Fox News had to ban her because she got stuff so completely wrong that it embarrassed even them

    There she mentions Alexandra Chalupa, and before that Alexander Vindman. Both Ukrainians and virile Trump haters. Then there were all the Ukrainian officials who campaigned against Donald Trump in two thousand sixteen.

    More of John Doe's fantasy figures. They do exist, but they aren't what he (and other pro-Trump activists) claims they are. The "Ukranian officials" who campaigned against Trump in 2016 seem to be a complete invention - after Vindman blew the whistle on
    Trump's attempt to blackmail Zelensky on the 25th July 2019, Trump invented all sorts of earlier Ukrainian conspiracies against him.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexandra_Chalupa

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Vindman

    She's right. Ukraine is at the center of the New World Order's campaign to exterminate Russia.

    Why would they bother? Russia is busy exterminating itself.

    Anybody opposed is an enemy of the Deep State.

    Since the Deep state only seems to exist in John Doe's demented imagination, it's not an enemy that anybody sane is going to take seriously.

    Laura Logan is actually a far-right lunatic, as far out of touch with reality as John Doe

    <snipped more Fox News nonsense>

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney


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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 29 05:37:30 2022
    Bozo is a cannibal leftist madly in love with neocons.


    Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

    "the user has posted under the same name in other places, so not
    nym-shifting" (Bozo sucks at logic)

    "the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
    (Bozo lying)

    "the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
    (Bozo being weird)

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 29 05:36:03 2022
    Ironically... Those who refer to us Americans as "Yanks" bash us for being
    IN wars. If you want us to do your fighting for you, you definitely should
    not be insulting us. But apparently insult is the Australian way.

    If Ukraine is so important... Go get 'em Tiger.

    Phil's conversations are entertaining as watching The Fifth Element (1997) alien trying to keep it together in his human skin...

    https://youtu.be/sFAPW3W2yMk?t=165 (PG, ~20 seconds)

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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to John Dopehead on Thu Apr 28 23:09:07 2022
    John Dopehead wrote:

    =====================

    Ironically... Those who refer to us Americans as "Yanks" bash us for being
    IN wars.

    ** However, I just posted the *direct opposite* idea.

    If you want us to do your fighting for you, you definitely should
    not be insulting us. But apparently insult is the Australian way.

    ** Aussies have fully supported US forces in many wars:
    Throughout WW2, in Korea, in Vietnam and Afghanistan.
    Our military, navy and airmen carry out training with US ones.
    We buy & fly US made aircraft, F18s and C130s among others.
    Recently we signed a mutual security pact:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AUKUS

    If Ukraine is so important..

    ** Its who's next that matters most.

    Phil's conversations are entertaining

    ** While yours are laughable and absurd.
    As one might expect from a complete jerk.


    .... Phil

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Fri Apr 29 00:12:54 2022
    On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 3:37:36 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    Bill is a cannibal leftist madly in love with neocons.

    John Doe believes in "cannibal leftists" and "neocons".

    The former seem to be entirely a figment of his demented imagination.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism

    did actually exist, once. It came to prominence in the US when they engineered the disastrous invasion of Iraq.

    I didn't think much of them at the time, and everybody sane now shares that opinion.

    John Doe isn't remotely sane.

    <snipped the rest of his recycled abuse. It was fatuous nonsense when he first posted it, and it is just as fatuous now>

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to always.look@message.header on Mon May 2 23:15:18 2022
    On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 02:47:13 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
    <always.look@message.header> wrote:

    Cursitor Doom wrote:

    Nothing is as it appears on TV.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjGig5dhnSs

    Thanks.

    https://youtu.be/bjGig5dhnSs?t=332

    "We have completely crushed his economy"

    That was the White House six weeks ago, this is reality now...

    "Russian rouble hits near 2-year high vs euro" (not the closing price)

    Fox News' most recent video about Ukraine...

    https://youtu.be/VGnvixtDZJQ

    "Biden requests more military aid for Ukraine: 'This fight is not cheap'"

    74.2% Dislikes

    As with every such video on Fox, it's like a broken record, the vast
    majority of regular Fox viewer comments want us to stay out of the >Ukraine-Russia conflict.

    I can't see any follow-up comments actually in support of the war in
    Ukraine. It seems incredible how our so-called "leaders" can be so out
    of whack with our legitimate interests and keep getting away with it.
    We just go from one futile, ruinously-expensive foreign entanglement
    to the next to the next to the next. Then as soon as a President comes
    along who genuinely tries to put a stop to this insanity, 'they' - the
    deep state/shadow government - find a way to get rid of him and
    install yet another of their stooges in his place and it's straight
    back to business as usual. :( :( :(

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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon May 2 15:54:57 2022
    Cursitor Doom wrote:
    ==================

    Fox News' most recent video about Ukraine...

    https://youtu.be/VGnvixtDZJQ

    "Biden requests more military aid for Ukraine: 'This fight is not cheap'"

    74.2% Dislikes

    As with every such video on Fox, it's like a broken record, the vast >majority of regular Fox viewer comments want us to stay out of the >Ukraine-Russia conflict.

    I can't see any follow-up comments actually in support of the war in
    Ukraine. It seems incredible how our so-called "leaders" can be so out
    of whack with our legitimate interests and keep getting away with it.
    We just go from one futile, ruinously-expensive foreign entanglement
    to the next to the next to the next.


    ** FFS imbecile - u-tube comments are NO guide to anything.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/02/poll-ukraine-support-biden/

    Support for Ukraine is massively popular - world wide too.



    ..... Phil

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Cursitor Doom on Mon May 2 17:52:04 2022
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:15:26 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 02:47:13 -0000 (UTC), John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>

    As with every such video on Fox, it's like a broken record, the vast >majority of regular Fox viewer comments want us to stay out of the >Ukraine-Russia conflict.

    I can't see any follow-up comments actually in support of the war in Ukraine.

    Fox News probably censors any that might show up.

    It seems incredible how our so-called "leaders" can be so out of whack with our legitimate interests and keep getting away with it.

    Cursitor Doom doesn't realise quite how demented his concept of "our legitimate interests" happens to be.

    We just go from one futile, ruinously-expensive foreign entanglement to the next to the next to the next.

    The Ukraine isn't any kind of "foreign entanglement". They are getting supported with armament shipments, but they haven't got any right to demand more, though they can always ask for them,

    Then as soon as a President comes along who genuinely tries to put a stop to this insanity, 'they' - the deep state/shadow government - find a way to get rid of him and install yet another of their stooges in his place and it's straight back to
    business as usual. :( :( :(

    Trump was a complete disaster and a total incompetent. His rhetoric did appeal to Cursitor Doom, but nobody sane would court Cursitor Doom's approval.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Phil Allison on Tue May 3 10:47:39 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    No thanks. Given the Internet, one can devise means of figuring out what
    is REALLY going on in the world. Depending on the mainstream media is brainlessly foolish.

    Try reading John Durham's court filings. And then read the commentary from
    real media sources. The fake news is ignoring it even though it's
    extremely important. Liberals are promoting fascism while pretending to
    love democracy.

    And if you believe the Washington Post...

    --
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    Cursitor Doom wrote:
    ==================

    Fox News' most recent video about Ukraine...

    https://youtu.be/VGnvixtDZJQ

    "Biden requests more military aid for Ukraine: 'This fight is not cheap'" >> >
    74.2% Dislikes

    As with every such video on Fox, it's like a broken record, the vast
    majority of regular Fox viewer comments want us to stay out of the
    Ukraine-Russia conflict.

    I can't see any follow-up comments actually in support of the war in
    Ukraine. It seems incredible how our so-called "leaders" can be so out
    of whack with our legitimate interests and keep getting away with it.
    We just go from one futile, ruinously-expensive foreign entanglement
    to the next to the next to the next.


    ** FFS imbecile - u-tube comments are NO guide to anything.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/02/poll-ukraine-support-biden/

    Support for Ukraine is massively popular - world wide too.



    ..... Phil






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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 3 10:59:13 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Tue, 3 May 2022 10:47:39 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t4r18a$o6q$4@dont-email.me>).

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET (**) has been 58.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
    least 1202 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    560 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    2VuiAuy1HWXZ

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 3 11:07:34 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Tue, 3 May 2022 11:05:54 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t4r2ai$o6q$5@dont-email.me>).

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET (**) has been 58.5% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
    least 1206 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    564 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    vGds1F8F4Llr

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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to John Dopehead on Tue May 3 04:06:37 2022
    John Dopehead wrote:

    No thanks. Given the Internet, one can devise means of figuring out what
    is REALLY going on in the world.

    ** LOL - but not by using u-tube comments

    Only fuckwit would trust them as any guide at all.


    And if you believe the Washington Post...

    ** The survey is well documented.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21824495-2022-04-28-trend-for-release

    An matches closely with world wide opinion.
    But not a damn fool like YOU.


    ..... Phil

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Tue May 3 11:05:54 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    In fact, most of Fox News is pro military-industrial complex, while most
    of Fox News viewers are against military aid to Ukraine and more concerned
    that our own freaking border is wide open...

    Biden v. Texas
    https://www.oyez.org/cases/2021/21-954

    One of IMO the most apt Fox News viewer comments about that war goes
    something like this...

    "Fight to the last Ukrainian!"

    That's what sending arms to Ukraine is doing. That, risking World War III
    (a very big deal), enriching the military-industrial complex, and
    satisfying liberal-neocon lovebirds.

    Here Bill "Bozo" Sloman is acting clownish as usual...

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    Subject: Re: Terrifying warning
    From: Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org>
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    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:15:26 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 02:47:13 -0000 (UTC), John Doe <alway...@message.hea
    wrote:
    Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>

    As with every such video on Fox, it's like a broken record, the vast
    majority of regular Fox viewer comments want us to stay out of the
    Ukraine-Russia conflict.

    I can't see any follow-up comments actually in support of the war in
    Ukraine.

    Fox News probably censors any that might show up.

    It seems incredible how our so-called "leaders" can be so out of whack w
    ith our legitimate interests and keep getting away with it.

    Cursitor Doom doesn't realise quite how demented his concept of "our legitimate interests" happens to be.

    We just go from one futile, ruinously-expensive foreign entanglement to
    the next to the next to the next.

    The Ukraine isn't any kind of "foreign entanglement". They are getting supported with armament shipments, but they haven't got any right to demand more, though they can always ask for them,

    Then as soon as a President comes along who genuinely tries to put a stop
    to this insanity, 'they' - the deep state/shadow government - find a way to get rid of him and install yet another of their stooges in his place and it's straight back to business as usual. :( :( :(

    Trump was a complete disaster and a total incompetent. His rhetoric did appeal to Cursitor Doom, but nobody sane would court Cursitor Doom's approval.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney



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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Tue May 3 04:39:17 2022
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 9:06:02 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:15:26 AM UTC+10, Cursitor Doom wrote:
    On Fri, 29 Apr 2022 02:47:13 -0000 (UTC), John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
    Cursitor Doom wrote:

    <snip>

    As with every such video on Fox, it's like a broken record, the vast
    majority of regular Fox viewer comments want us to stay out of the
    Ukraine-Russia conflict.

    I can't see any follow-up comments actually in support of the war in
    Ukraine.

    Fox News probably censors any that might show up.

    It seems incredible how our so-called "leaders" can be so out of whack with our legitimate interests and keep getting away with it.

    Cursitor Doom doesn't realise quite how demented his concept of "our legitimate interests" happens to be.

    We just go from one futile, ruinously-expensive foreign entanglement to the next to the next to the next.

    The Ukraine isn't any kind of "foreign entanglement". They are getting supported with armament shipments, but they haven't got any right to demand more, though they can always ask for them,

    Then as soon as a President comes along who genuinely tries to put a stop to this insanity, 'they' - the deep state/shadow government - find a way to get rid of him and install yet another of their stooges in his place and it's straight back to
    business as usual. :( :( :(

    Trump was a complete disaster and a total incompetent. His rhetoric did appeal to Cursitor Doom, but nobody sane would court Cursitor Doom's approval.

    In fact, most of Fox News is pro military-industrial complex, while most of Fox News viewers are against military aid to Ukraine and more concerned that our own freaking border is wide open...

    Fox News has a policy of appealing to gullible twits. Presumably that means saying nice things about what John Doe imagines to be the "military-industrial complex" whatever that might be, some sixty years after Eisenhower popularised the phrase.

    Fox News viewers do include a lot of gullible twits and their opinions about military aid to the Ukraine and the permeability of the US southern border are just as worthless as John Doe's. As the number of people who voted for Donald Trump illustrates, a
    lot of people do have some very silly ideas, and can be influenced by utterly worthless arguments..

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 3 12:05:15 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 3 May 2022 11:48:38 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t4r4qm$o6q$14@dont-email.me>.

    Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
    USENET (**) has been 59.4% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
    least 1234 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    592 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    uA8NSKEmGPIi

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to John Doe on Tue May 3 12:53:40 2022
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:47:46 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    No thanks. Given the Internet, one can devise means of figuring out what
    is REALLY going on in the world. Depending on the mainstream media is brainlessly foolish.

    In Russia, the 'mainstream media' has been gutted. Outside Russia, it
    is a useful bunch of channels for information. The Internet is also a useful bunch of channels. But, large parts of the mainstream media are seen and commented on by many eyes, and have a stake in being credible. Those
    media channels are better, on average, than the Internet.

    Try reading John Durham's court filings.

    Why? Those filings are about theories unproven as yet (a court might eventually see
    evidence and make a decision) and represent the hypotheses that a prosecutor may eventually present for judgment. It ain't news until such an event comes to pass.

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to John Doe on Tue May 3 12:42:13 2022
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:47:21 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    "We have completely crushed his economy"

    That was the White House six weeks ago, this is reality now...

    "Russian rouble hits near 2-year high vs euro" (not the closing price)

    Yeah, about that... because of European trade shutdown, the market
    for roubles is trading insignificant quantities of that currency into/from Euros.

    A 'near 2-year high' might be completely insignificant in this situation.

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  • From David Eather@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Wed May 4 13:23:27 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    On 3/05/2022 10:05 pm, Edward Hernandez wrote:
    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id

    hey we get it John Doe doesn't post right. Now shut the fuck up - your
    posts are an even bigger source of noise than his. John Doe says
    something even if it is stupid - you just post unthinking spam

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to whit3rd@gmail.com on Wed May 4 04:59:17 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Sure... This clown hasn't read any of John Durham's filings and yet its opinions are supposed to be worth something...

    --
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    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 3:47:46 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    No thanks. Given the Internet, one can devise means of figuring out what
    is REALLY going on in the world. Depending on the mainstream media is
    brainlessly foolish.

    In Russia, the 'mainstream media' has been gutted. Outside Russia, it
    is a useful bunch of channels for information. The Internet is also a useful
    bunch of channels. But, large parts of the mainstream media are seen and commented on by many eyes, and have a stake in being credible. Those
    media channels are better, on average, than the Internet.

    Try reading John Durham's court filings.

    Why? Those filings are about theories unproven as yet (a court might eventually see
    evidence and make a decision) and represent the hypotheses that a prosecutor may eventually present for judgment. It ain't news until such an event comes to pass.



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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to whit3rd@gmail.com on Wed May 4 04:56:36 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Yada yada yada.
    More baseless idiotic opinions...

    --
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    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:47:21 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    "We have completely crushed his economy"

    That was the White House six weeks ago, this is reality now...

    "Russian rouble hits near 2-year high vs euro" (not the closing price)

    Yeah, about that... because of European trade shutdown, the market
    for roubles is trading insignificant quantities of that currency into/from Euros.

    A 'near 2-year high' might be completely insignificant in this situation.



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 4 05:26:41 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Wed, 4 May 2022 04:56:36 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t4t124$vfr$3@dont-email.me>).

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
    USENET (**) has been 59.8% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
    least 1246 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    604 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    M+YNlED8dymo

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 4 05:30:06 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Wed, 4 May 2022 05:29:43 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t4t307$vfr$10@dont-email.me>.

    Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
    USENET (**) has been 59.9% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
    least 1253 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    610 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    fN+bbZ6b8BHq

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 4 05:31:14 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Wed, 4 May 2022 05:29:59 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t4t30n$vfr$11@dont-email.me>).

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
    USENET (**) has been 60.1% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
    least 1257 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    614 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    66AUi9YrNVPT

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Wed May 4 00:28:09 2022
    On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 2:56:43 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:


    --
    whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:

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    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:47:21 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    "We have completely crushed his economy"

    That was the White House six weeks ago, this is reality now...

    "Russian rouble hits near 2-year high vs euro" (not the closing price)

    Yeah, about that... because of European trade shutdown, the market for roubles is trading insignificant quantities of that currency into/from Euros.

    A 'near 2-year high' might be completely insignificant in this situation.

    Yada yada yada. More baseless idiotic opinions...

    And John Doe aspires to be the only source of baseless idiotic opinions posted here. He's certainly idiotic enough, which has lead him to describe a perfectly sensible point as "baseless idiocy".
    A market which isn't moving much money can manipulated very cheaply.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Wed May 4 09:30:46 2022
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    Bill "Bozo" Sloman is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be
    reasoned with...

    --
    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

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    On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 2:56:43 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:


    --
    whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:

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    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:47:21 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    "We have completely crushed his economy"

    That was the White House six weeks ago, this is reality now...

    "Russian rouble hits near 2-year high vs euro" (not the closing price)

    Yeah, about that... because of European trade shutdown, the market for roubles is trading insignificant quantities of that currency into/from Euros.

    A 'near 2-year high' might be completely insignificant in this situation. >> >
    Yada yada yada. More baseless idiotic opinions...

    And John Doe aspires to be the only source of baseless idiotic opinions posted here. He's certainly idiotic enough, which has lead him to describe a perfectly sensible point as "baseless idiocy".
    A market which isn't moving much money can manipulated very cheaply.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 4 09:45:35 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Wed, 4 May 2022 09:30:46 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t4th45$eno$2@dont-email.me>.

    Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
    USENET (**) has been 60.6% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
    least 1276 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    632 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    zc1Tr8Fq8iUT

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 4 09:51:19 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Wed, 4 May 2022 09:50:12 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t4ti8k$lki$6@dont-email.me>).

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
    USENET (**) has been 60.9% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
    least 1289 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    644 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    zZbn7eZI4lwS

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Wed May 4 08:15:11 2022
    On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:30:53 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:-
    Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 2:56:43 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:47:21 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    "We have completely crushed his economy"

    That was the White House six weeks ago, this is reality now...

    "Russian rouble hits near 2-year high vs euro" (not the closing price) >> >
    Yeah, about that... because of European trade shutdown, the market for roubles is trading insignificant quantities of that currency into/from Euros.

    A 'near 2-year high' might be completely insignificant in this situation.

    Yada yada yada. More baseless idiotic opinions...

    And John Doe aspires to be the only source of baseless idiotic opinions posted here. He's certainly idiotic enough, which has lead him to describe a perfectly sensible point as "baseless idiocy".
    A market which isn't moving much money can manipulated very cheaply.

    Bill Sloman is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

    Not that John Doe ever bothers to explain which parts of my posts might be seen as any kind of lie - that would require him to try to reason with me, which doesn't seem to be something he can manage.
    He certainly hasn't gone in for any kind of reasoning in this forum, and his enthusiasm for baseless idiotic opinions does suggest that any kind of reasoning is quite beyond him.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Thu May 5 00:05:19 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Bozo is an Australian troll.

    Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

    "the user has posted under the same name in other places, so not
    nym-shifting" (Bozo sucks at logic)

    "the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
    (Bozo lying)

    "the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
    (Bozo being weird)

    --
    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

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    On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:30:53 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:-
    Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 2:56:43 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:47:21 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    "We have completely crushed his economy"

    That was the White House six weeks ago, this is reality now...

    "Russian rouble hits near 2-year high vs euro" (not the closing price) >> >> >
    Yeah, about that... because of European trade shutdown, the market for roubles is trading insignificant quantities of that currency into/from Euros.

    A 'near 2-year high' might be completely insignificant in this situation.

    Yada yada yada. More baseless idiotic opinions...

    And John Doe aspires to be the only source of baseless idiotic opinions posted here. He's certainly idiotic enough, which has lead him to describe a perfectly sensible point as "baseless idiocy".
    A market which isn't moving much money can manipulated very cheaply.

    Bill Sloman is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

    Not that John Doe ever bothers to explain which parts of my posts might be seen as any kind of lie - that would require him to try to reason with me, which doesn't seem to be something he can manage.
    He certainly hasn't gone in for any kind of reasoning in this forum, and his enthusiasm for baseless idiotic opinions does suggest that any kind of reasoning is quite beyond him.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney




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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 5 00:41:36 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 5 May 2022 00:05:19 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t4v4bu$rv5$3@dont-email.me>.

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET (**) has been 61.1% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
    least 1297 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    652 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    cHicYdB3FwLM

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 5 02:10:23 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 5 May 2022 01:33:39 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t4v9hi$cq0$6@dont-email.me>).

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET (**) has been 61.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
    least 1307 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    660 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    uT++TRHtautk

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  • From Ricky@21:1/5 to David Eather on Wed May 4 20:16:22 2022
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:23:34 PM UTC-4, David Eather wrote:
    On 3/05/2022 10:05 pm, Edward Hernandez wrote:
    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
    hey we get it John Doe doesn't post right. Now shut the fuck up - your
    posts are an even bigger source of noise than his. John Doe says
    something even if it is stupid - you just post unthinking spam

    LOL You would seem to be in the same boat as Doe, unaware that Edward's posts aren't here to collect replies. I don't think he ever sees anything you post. He is just here to annoy Doe, like the alligator in Peter Pan. I find this all very amusing,
    especially when Doe replies as if anyone is listening to his screams in space.

    --

    Rick C.

    - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Ricky on Thu May 5 04:13:43 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Ricksy keeps posting the same delusional and wishful thinking.

    It's delusional because OBVIOUSLY the stalker spammer troll Eddie reads replies. The mentally retarded troll has proved that many times by
    replying to context.

    Ricksy is wishful thinking. I'm annoyed no more than any other user. Eddie
    is like an amplifier. Since Eddie doesn't think, he is easily manipulated
    (I have told Ricksy that several times but he just doesn't get it). Seems
    Eddie likes me. Notice how nice and neat my threads mostly are, versus the abortions Ricksy promotes.

    That's not how trolls usually work. It's brainless. Really makes you
    wonder what is going on in Eddie's head. Apparently Eddie is mentally
    retarded and/or he just doesn't like USENET at all and for some strange
    reason he must hang around constantly proving that.

    Ricksy's motive for pretending he likes that is another subject...

    --
    Ricky <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

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    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:23:34 PM UTC-4, David Eather wrote:
    On 3/05/2022 10:05 pm, Edward Hernandez wrote:
    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
    hey we get it John Doe doesn't post right. Now shut the fuck up - your
    posts are an even bigger source of noise than his. John Doe says
    something even if it is stupid - you just post unthinking spam

    LOL You would seem to be in the same boat as Doe, unaware that Edward's posts aren't here to collect replies. I don't think he ever sees anything you post. He is just here to annoy Doe, like the alligator in Peter Pan. I find this all very amusing,
    especially when Doe replies as if anyone is listening to his screams in space.

    --

    Rick C.

    - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209



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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Ricky on Thu May 5 04:15:25 2022
    Ricky <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

    David Eather wrote:
    Edward Hernandez wrote:

    The John Doe troll stated the following

    hey we get it John Doe doesn't post right. Now shut the fuck up - your
    posts are an even bigger source of noise than his. John Doe says
    something even if it is stupid - you just post unthinking spam

    LOL

    Ricksy needs to dislodge the comedian from the otherwise vacant area
    between its ears.

    Either that, or Ricksy is drunk again...

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 5 04:29:13 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 5 May 2022 04:13:43 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t4vitn$ppj$1@dont-email.me>.

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET (**) has been 61.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
    least 1311 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    662 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

    rUFGADZvVo3Y

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 5 04:37:32 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 5 May 2022 04:37:15 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t4vk9r$7f4$1@dont-email.me>.

    Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
    USENET (**) has been 61.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
    least 1313 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    664 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    psiGDYtPIFDk

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Wed May 4 21:48:47 2022
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:13:56 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:23:34 PM UTC-4, David Eather wrote:
    On 3/05/2022 10:05 pm, Edward Hernandez wrote:
    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
    hey we get it John Doe doesn't post right. Now shut the fuck up - your
    posts are an even bigger source of noise than his. John Doe says
    something even if it is stupid - you just post unthinking spam

    LOL You would seem to be in the same boat as Doe, unaware that Edward's posts aren't here to collect replies. I don't think he ever sees anything you post. He is just here to annoy Doe, like the alligator in Peter Pan. I find this all very amusing,
    especially when Doe replies as if anyone is listening to his screams in space.

    Ricksy keeps posting the same delusional and wishful thinking.

    It's delusional because OBVIOUSLY the stalker spammer troll Eddie reads replies. The mentally retarded troll has proved that many times by replying to context.

    Not all that many times. The main information content in Edward's posts are his reports of John Doe's posting statistics. I've no idea where he gets them, which might leave John Doe free to imagine that they might be invented, but John Doe doesn't pay
    any attention to the numbers, probably because he doesn't understand them

    Ricksy is wishful thinking. I'm annoyed no more than any other user.

    But you do post claims about "nym-shiftying Eddy" and "spanked Eddy" far more often than any other user, so an objective observer might suspect that you were in fact more annoyed than any other user.

    Eddy is like an amplifier. Since Eddie doesn't think, he is easily manipulated.

    John Doe does have his favourite delusions. This does seem to be one of them.

    (I have told Ricksy that several times but he just doesn't get it).

    Or he's got enough sense to notice that this is just even more of your self-serving nonsense.

    Seems Eddie likes me. Notice how nice and neat my threads mostly are, versus the abortions Ricksy promotes.

    John Doe's idea of a neat and tidy posting is decidedly bizarre. The explicit troll posts, with large chunks of eternal september routing information look like large piles of meaningless nonsense to most of us.
    The routing information is - in fact meaningful, but it convey information that nobody needs, or wants, to know about, which makes it a kind of vandalism.

    John Doe's habit of postign pages of John Durham court testimony is more of the same, no matter how neat it may appear to John Doe.

    That's not how trolls usually work. It's brainless.

    John Doe is brainless troll, so he knows all about that.

    Really makes you wonder what is going on in Eddie's head. Apparently Eddie is mentally retarded and/or he just doesn't like USENET at all and for some strange reason he must hang around constantly proving that.

    That also describes John Doe perfectly. There are more John Doe posts than Edward Hernandez posts, so clearly John Doe hates USENET even more desperately.

    Ricksy's motive for pretending he likes that is another subject...

    Rick C was actually reacting to David Eather's post that criticised Edward Hernandez. I've claimed that Flyguy is even stupider than John doe, but I may have been being too kind to John Doe.
    This is all discussing precedence between a flea an a louse, so it is almost as bad.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Thu May 5 04:54:40 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Bozo is a textbook cannibal leftist who roots for destruction
    without even being drunk. It's his nature.


    Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

    "the user has posted under the same name in other places, so not
    nym-shifting" (Bozo sucks at logic)

    "the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
    (Bozo lying)

    "the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
    (Bozo being weird)

    --
    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

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    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:13:56 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:23:34 PM UTC-4, David Eather wrote:
    On 3/05/2022 10:05 pm, Edward Hernandez wrote:
    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
    hey we get it John Doe doesn't post right. Now shut the fuck up - your

    posts are an even bigger source of noise than his. John Doe says
    something even if it is stupid - you just post unthinking spam

    LOL You would seem to be in the same boat as Doe, unaware that Edward's
    posts aren't here to collect replies. I don't think he ever sees anything you post. He is just here to annoy Doe, like the alligator in Peter Pan. I find this all very amusing, especially when Doe replies as if anyone is listening to his screams in
    space.

    Ricksy keeps posting the same delusional and wishful thinking.

    It's delusional because OBVIOUSLY the stalker spammer troll Eddie reads re
    plies. The mentally retarded troll has proved that many times by replying to context.

    Not all that many times. The main information content in Edward's posts are his reports of John Doe's posting statistics. I've no idea where he gets them, which might leave John Doe free to imagine that they might be invented, but John Doe doesn't pay
    any attention to the numbers, probably because he doesn't understand them

    Ricksy is wishful thinking. I'm annoyed no more than any other user.

    But you do post claims about "nym-shiftying Eddy" and "spanked Eddy" far more often than any other user, so an objective observer might suspect that you were in fact more annoyed than any other user.

    Eddy is like an amplifier. Since Eddie doesn't think, he is easily manipu
    lated.

    John Doe does have his favourite delusions. This does seem to be one of them.

    (I have told Ricksy that several times but he just doesn't get it).

    Or he's got enough sense to notice that this is just even more of your self-serving nonsense.

    Seems Eddie likes me. Notice how nice and neat my threads mostly are, ver
    sus the abortions Ricksy promotes.

    John Doe's idea of a neat and tidy posting is decidedly bizarre. The explicit troll posts, with large chunks of eternal september routing information look like large piles of meaningless nonsense to most of us.
    The routing information is - in fact meaningful, but it convey information that nobody needs, or wants, to know about, which makes it a kind of vandalism.

    John Doe's habit of postign pages of John Durham court testimony is more of the same, no matter how neat it may appear to John Doe.

    That's not how trolls usually work. It's brainless.

    John Doe is brainless troll, so he knows all about that.

    Really makes you wonder what is going on in Eddie's head. Apparently Eddi
    e is mentally retarded and/or he just doesn't like USENET at all and for some strange reason he must hang around constantly proving that.

    That also describes John Doe perfectly. There are more John Doe posts than Edward Hernandez posts, so clearly John Doe hates USENET even more desperately.

    Ricksy's motive for pretending he likes that is another subject...

    Rick C was actually reacting to David Eather's post that criticised Edward Hernandez. I've claimed that Flyguy is even stupider than John doe, but I may have been being too kind to John Doe.
    This is all discussing precedence between a flea an a louse, so it is almost as bad.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 5 04:55:57 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 5 May 2022 04:54:40 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t4vlag$7f4$2@dont-email.me>).

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
    USENET (**) has been 61.4% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
    least 1315 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    666 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    +XtsVihsiToJ

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Wed May 4 22:14:16 2022
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:54:49 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:13:56 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:23:34 PM UTC-4, David Eather wrote:
    On 3/05/2022 10:05 pm, Edward Hernandez wrote:

    <snip>

    Ricksy is wishful thinking. I'm annoyed no more than any other user.

    But you do post claims about "nym-shiftying Eddy" and "spanked Eddy" far more often than any other user, so an objective observer might suspect that you were in fact more annoyed than any other user.

    Eddy is like an amplifier. Since Eddie doesn't think, he is easily manipulated.

    John Doe does have his favourite delusions. This does seem to be one of them.

    (I have told Ricksy that several times but he just doesn't get it).

    Or he's got enough sense to notice that this is just even more of your self-serving nonsense.

    Seems Eddie likes me. Notice how nice and neat my threads mostly are, versus the abortions Ricksy promotes.

    John Doe's idea of a neat and tidy posting is decidedly bizarre. The explicit troll posts, with large chunks of eternal september routing information look like large piles of meaningless nonsense to most of us.
    The routing information is - in fact - meaningful, but it convey information that nobody needs, or wants, to know about, which makes it a kind of vandalism.

    John Doe's habit of postign pages of John Durham court testimony is more of the same, no matter how neat it may appear to John Doe.

    That's not how trolls usually work. It's brainless.

    John Doe is brainless troll, so he knows all about that.

    Really makes you wonder what is going on in Eddie's head. Apparently Eddie is mentally retarded and/or he just doesn't like USENET at all and for some strange reason he must hang around constantly proving that.

    That also describes John Doe perfectly. There are more John Doe posts than Edward Hernandez posts, so clearly John Doe hates USENET even more desperately.

    Ricksy's motive for pretending he likes that is another subject...

    Rick C was actually reacting to David Eather's post that criticised Edward Hernandez. I've claimed that Flyguy is even stupider than John doe, but I may have been being too kind to John Doe.
    This is all discussing precedence between a flea an a louse, so it is almost as bad.

    Bill is a textbook cannibal leftist who roots for destruction without even being drunk. It's his nature.

    John Doe doesn't post any kind of link to any textbook which describes "cannibal leftists". The term is one that John Doe seems to have invented, so one can be fairly confident that no such textbook exists.
    He also hasn't bothered to quote any anything that I've posted that "roots for destruction". My impression is that he'd find it difficult to find any such text, but he is an idiot, and as Flyguy demonstrates, if you are stupid enough you can
    misunderstand pretty much anything in ways that suit your argument.

    His pronouncements about my "nature" fall down in the same way.

    <I've snipped the recycled abuse that he'd tacked on to the new insult>

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 5 04:16:19 2022
    When will Eddie break the forty line barrier...

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Thu May 5 08:02:31 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    I don't believe a word Bozo says...

    --
    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

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    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:54:49 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:13:56 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:23:34 PM UTC-4, David Eather wrote:
    On 3/05/2022 10:05 pm, Edward Hernandez wrote:

    <snip>

    Ricksy is wishful thinking. I'm annoyed no more than any other user.


    But you do post claims about "nym-shiftying Eddy" and "spanked Eddy" fa
    r more often than any other user, so an objective observer might suspect that you were in fact more annoyed than any other user.

    Eddy is like an amplifier. Since Eddie doesn't think, he is easily man
    ipulated.

    John Doe does have his favourite delusions. This does seem to be one of
    them.

    (I have told Ricksy that several times but he just doesn't get it).

    Or he's got enough sense to notice that this is just even more of your
    self-serving nonsense.

    Seems Eddie likes me. Notice how nice and neat my threads mostly are,
    versus the abortions Ricksy promotes.

    John Doe's idea of a neat and tidy posting is decidedly bizarre. The ex
    plicit troll posts, with large chunks of eternal september routing information look like large piles of meaningless nonsense to most of us.
    The routing information is - in fact - meaningful, but it convey inform
    ation that nobody needs, or wants, to know about, which makes it a kind of vandalism.

    John Doe's habit of postign pages of John Durham court testimony is mor
    e of the same, no matter how neat it may appear to John Doe.

    That's not how trolls usually work. It's brainless.

    John Doe is brainless troll, so he knows all about that.

    Really makes you wonder what is going on in Eddie's head. Apparently E
    ddie is mentally retarded and/or he just doesn't like USENET at all and for some strange reason he must hang around constantly proving that.

    That also describes John Doe perfectly. There are more John Doe posts t
    han Edward Hernandez posts, so clearly John Doe hates USENET even more desperately.

    Ricksy's motive for pretending he likes that is another subject...

    Rick C was actually reacting to David Eather's post that criticised Edw
    ard Hernandez. I've claimed that Flyguy is even stupider than John doe, but I may have been being too kind to John Doe.
    This is all discussing precedence between a flea an a louse, so it is a
    lmost as bad.

    Bill is a textbook cannibal leftist who roots for destruction without ev
    en being drunk. It's his nature.

    John Doe doesn't post any kind of link to any textbook which describes "cannibal leftists". The term is one that John Doe seems to have invented, so one can be fairly confident that no such textbook exists.
    He also hasn't bothered to quote any anything that I've posted that "roots for destruction". My impression is that he'd find it difficult to find any such text, but he is an idiot, and as Flyguy demonstrates, if you are stupid enough you can
    misunderstand pretty much anything in ways that suit your argument.

    His pronouncements about my "nature" fall down in the same way.

    <I've snipped the recycled abuse that he'd tacked on to the new insult>

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney




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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 5 08:04:56 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 5 May 2022 08:01:51 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t5009f$hrq$2@dont-email.me>.

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET (**) has been 61.5% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
    least 1321 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    672 have been Troll Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    a6gedJqqtBtr

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 5 08:07:17 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 5 May 2022 08:06:18 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t500hp$hrq$6@dont-email.me>).

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
    USENET (**) has been 61.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    ** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe has posted at
    least 1327 articles to USENET. Of which 141 have been pure insults and
    678 have been John Doe "troll format" postings.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    TyRY2+sqEnBB

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 5 08:19:39 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Eddie...doesn't like USENET at all

    Except for downloading porn. Why else would he stick around, and buy gigabits/terabits from Astraweb.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu May 5 07:50:01 2022
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 6:02:37 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:54:49 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 2:13:56 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    Ricky <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 11:23:34 PM UTC-4, David Eather wrote:
    On 3/05/2022 10:05 pm, Edward Hernandez wrote:

    <snip>

    Ricksy is wishful thinking. I'm annoyed no more than any other user. >> >
    But you do post claims about "nym-shiftying Eddy" and "spanked Eddy" far more often than any other user, so an objective observer might suspect that you were in fact more annoyed than any other user.

    Eddy is like an amplifier. Since Eddie doesn't think, he is easily manipulated.

    John Doe does have his favourite delusions. This does seem to be one of them.

    (I have told Ricksy that several times but he just doesn't get it).

    Or he's got enough sense to notice that this is just even more of your self-serving nonsense.

    Seems Eddie likes me. Notice how nice and neat my threads mostly are, versus the abortions Ricksy promotes.

    John Doe's idea of a neat and tidy posting is decidedly bizarre. The explicit troll posts, with large chunks of eternal september routing information look like large piles of meaningless nonsense to most of us. The routing information is - in
    fact - meaningful, but it convey inform ation that nobody needs, or wants, to know about, which makes it a kind of vandalism.

    John Doe's habit of posting pages of John Durham court testimony is mor e of the same, no matter how neat it may appear to John Doe.

    That's not how trolls usually work. It's brainless.

    John Doe is brainless troll, so he knows all about that.

    Really makes you wonder what is going on in Eddie's head. Apparently Eddie is mentally retarded and/or he just doesn't like USENET at all and for some strange reason he must hang around constantly proving that.

    That also describes John Doe perfectly. There are more John Doe posts than Edward Hernandez posts, so clearly John Doe hates USENET even more desperately.

    Ricksy's motive for pretending he likes that is another subject...

    Rick C was actually reacting to David Eather's post that criticised Edward Hernandez. I've claimed that Flyguy is even stupider than John Doe, but I may have been being too kind to John Doe.
    This is all discussing precedence between a flea an a louse, so it is almost as bad.

    Bill is a textbook cannibal leftist who roots for destruction without even being drunk. It's his nature.

    John Doe doesn't post any kind of link to any textbook which describes "cannibal leftists". The term is one that John Doe seems to have invented, so one can be fairly confident that no such textbook exists.
    He also hasn't bothered to quote any anything that I've posted that "roots for destruction". My impression is that he'd find it difficult to find any such text, but he is an idiot, and as Flyguy demonstrates, if you are stupid enough you can
    misunderstand pretty much anything in ways that suit your argument.

    His pronouncements about my "nature" fall down in the same way.

    <I've snipped the recycled abuse that he'd tacked on to the new insult>

    I don't believe a word Bill says...

    I suppose he'd have to understand the words before he could believe them. He hasn't actually posted any kind of direct response to any of my posts - he just concentrates on saying that he doesn't like them, without being specific about why he finds them
    offensive, so he could just be be upset that the comments go over his head.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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