"Originality" doesn't necessarily equate with competency.
When you interview job candidates, you pose standard
problems, of circuits, PSpice, maybe Mathcad, etc.
Textbook stuff, you expect he knows, reviewing his resume.
Microsoft and Google are famous for posing brain twisters,
stuff "outside the book" (if any exists, nowadays with the net).
Do you do this? The obvious idea is to test for originality.
How much weight do you place on the responses?
On 4/13/2022 1:02 PM, RichD wrote:
When you interview job candidates, you pose standard
problems, of circuits, PSpice, maybe Mathcad, etc.
Textbook stuff, you expect he knows, reviewing his resume.
Microsoft and Google are famous for posing brain twisters,
stuff "outside the book" (if any exists, nowadays with the net).
Do you do this? The obvious idea is to test for originality.
How much weight do you place on the responses?
We "test" to see how well the candidate can explore the problem
space. Folks who rush to a solution often miss on identifying
important (or "valuable") criteria/flexibility in their solutions.
I completely agree. I'm not looking for anything original by any
stretch of the imagination.
I am looking for something that causes the candidate to think for a few minutes so that they can demonstrate their understanding of the problem,
how to possibly solve the problem, and what solution they come up with.
I don't even /require/ that the candidate have a fully fleshed out solution. Especially if they don't because of an artificial time constraint. If the candidate can demonstrate that they understand the problem, can come up with a solution, and produce work towards the
solution, then they will get at least /some/ credit for the question.
I had a friend that years ago had a job interview with one of the minicomputer
manufactures. At that time they still sent source code with the systems and he
would go over it - particularly when there seemed to be problems. At the end of
the interview with the operating system manager he was asked if he had any questions. He said yes - he couldn't understand a particular part of the OS and
thought it was a problem. They talked a bit more. The manager had one of the programmers bring in the source code. The manager and programmer looked at the
code a bit and then told my friend that there was a problem and they would have
to fix it. He accepted the job offer.
In article <t37fgn$f62$1@dont-email.me>,
Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> wrote:
We "test" to see how well the candidate can explore the problem
space. Folks who rush to a solution often miss on identifying
important (or "valuable") criteria/flexibility in their solutions.
+1
When I do these sorts of interviews, I'm not (usually) looking for domain-specific knowledge.
Rather, I'm looking for overall problem-
solving skills - and a big part of that is "problem _defining_
skills".
A very important first step (for the interviewee) is to make certain
that they understand the problem. What's being asked for? What are
the requirements? What is must-have vs. nice-to-have? What are the must-not?
Somebody who can "read back" the problem as-stated (in their own words
and interpretation) and show that they understand what was asked for,
gets points... "active listening" skills like this are a real asset.
[I credit my wife for teaching me how important this is, and how it's
done - she's a graduate psychotherapist and this sort of skill is
critically important in her work.]
Someone who can pick up on ambiguities in the requirements and asks
for clarification gets points. Someone who states what they're
assuming (and says "correct me if I'm wrong here") gets points.
Someone who lets me know where their personal expertise and skills can
cover, and where these end ("I'm on new ground and thin ice here")
gets points.
Somebody who jumps in immediately to a proposed solution, without
doing the above... not so much. That's fairly common and foregivable
in rather-junior people (who want to show what they know) but I
don't care to see it in someone at the senior-designer level. It's
too easy (and expensive) for a project to get off-track due to
incorrect assumptions... the more senior the eager-beaver, the more
of the project that can be misdirected.
I don't go in for "brain teasers" or trick questions... those don't necessarily correlate well to real engineering problem-solving.
Rather, I try to probe with real engineering problems which are
outside of the candidate's specific work experience and direct skill
set, but where there's a similar level of general technical expertise
and problem-solving ability required. I don't expect people to come
to a working solution in cases like these (although it's nice to see
it happen), but I want to see how they build their logical framework
to support a design.
Google _was_ notorious for brain-teaser problems, years ago, but I
understand that this approach is deprecated there nowadays.
When you interview job candidates, you pose standard
problems, of circuits, PSpice, maybe Mathcad, etc.
Textbook stuff, you expect he knows, reviewing his resume.
Microsoft and Google are famous for posing brain twisters,
stuff "outside the book" (if any exists, nowadays with the net).
Do you do this? The obvious idea is to test for originality.
How much weight do you place on the responses?
When you interview job candidates, you pose standard
problems, of circuits, PSpice, maybe Mathcad, etc.
Textbook stuff, you expect he knows, reviewing his resume.
Microsoft and Google are famous for posing brain twisters,
stuff "outside the book" (if any exists, nowadays with the net).
Do you do this? The obvious idea is to test for originality.
How much weight do you place on the responses?
--
Rich
I havent interviewed in a long while, but my
simple point is, do they show any passion
or enthusiasm for the job. That, alone,
seemed rare. If they asked a lot of on-point
questions - no matter how naive - that was
usually a very good indicator,,
I havent interviewed in a long while, but my
simple point is, do they show any passion
or enthusiasm for the job. That, alone,
seemed rare. If they asked a lot of on-point
questions - no matter how naive - that was
usually a very good indicator,,
regards, Rich S.
When you interview job candidates, you pose standard
problems, of circuits, PSpice, maybe Mathcad, etc.
Textbook stuff, you expect he knows, reviewing his resume.
Microsoft and Google are famous for posing brain twisters,
stuff "outside the book" (if any exists, nowadays with the net).
Do you do this? The obvious idea is to test for originality.
How much weight do you place on the responses?
When you interview job candidates, you pose standard
problems, of circuits, PSpice, maybe Mathcad, etc.
Textbook stuff, you expect he knows, reviewing his resume.
Microsoft and Google are famous for posing brain twisters,
stuff "outside the book" (if any exists, nowadays with the net).
Do you do this? The obvious idea is to test for originality.
How much weight do you place on the responses?
--
Rich
On 13/04/2022 21:02, RichD wrote:
When you interview job candidates, you pose standard
problems, of circuits, PSpice, maybe Mathcad, etc.
Textbook stuff, you expect he knows, reviewing his resume.
Microsoft and Google are famous for posing brain twisters,
stuff "outside the book" (if any exists, nowadays with the net).
Do you do this? The obvious idea is to test for originality.
Most regular interviewers have their own favourite pet questions.
Discussing the right answers online would defeat the object so they
don't stay useable for long in this age of everything on social media.
How many zeroes does 100! have in its decimal representation is one such
that has been popular in recent years.
How much weight do you place on the responses?
Watching how they approach an unfamiliar problem can be a sufficient
guide to do they have what it takes. Engineering can get away with an
answer that whilst not exactly right is "good enough" for practical
purposes.
A pure mathematics course would expect the right answer (and quickly).
You have to know what characteristics you are recruiting for to pick the >right test question(s) for the position if you are playing this game.
Whether the individual will fit in with the team is often much more
important than technical prowess (provided that is adequate).
Unless that is you enjoy herding cats (something software engineering >management has been compared with - more than our fair share of divas).
And if they can, bring something along they've done before.
On 4/14/2022 3:05 AM, Clive Arthur wrote:
And if they can, bring something along they've done before.
But, this turns the interview around and lets them control the narrative instead of letting you drive it. Unless you have some experience with that product or application domain, you're largely at their mercy (BS factor).
I've also seen it backfire spectacularly on the applicant! In one
case, an engineer brought some schematics and source code that "he'd" created. As I happened to be very familiar with the product involved,
he was beyond chagrin when I asked him what part of the project
"Bob Jackadizzledoo" (bogus name designed to represent the oddness of
the REAL author's name) had done (Ans: every item that the applicant
was submitting as "his own").
Unfortunately, it doubly backfired on the *employer* as I told them of
this -- as well as placing some "personal calls" to "Bob J" for an off-the-record appraisal of the applicant's past work (something
that HR can't legally do to the degree that *I* can) -- and they hired
the guy, anyway.
[He turned out to be an 18 month disaster! Only quitting when he had
to "produce" (literally, the day his design was due to be completed)]
On 14/04/2022 17:24, Don Y wrote:
[He turned out to be an 18 month disaster! Only quitting when he had
to "produce" (literally, the day his design was due to be completed)]
I interviewed a guy for a technician/wireman job. He was shy, you might say socially inept, but the things he brought along were just lovely. Nothing that
was going to change the world - for example a variable power supply from a magazine design - but just so well put together.
He got the job. After a few weeks he came out of his shell and was very well liked by all. He took pride in his work.
Sadly, after a few years, Parkinson's got him. RIP Trevor.
BITD I got asked a couple of relatively memorable ones. Interviewing at
HP Labs in Palo Alto, they asked me to derive the Fresnel formulae for reflection of a plane wave at a dielectric interface.
When you interview job candidates, you pose standard
problems, of circuits, PSpice, maybe Mathcad, etc.
Textbook stuff, you expect he knows,
Microsoft and Google are famous for posing brain twisters,
stuff "outside the book" (if any exists, nowadays with the net).
Do you do this? The obvious idea is to test for originality.
How much weight do you place on the responses?
Write a bit of generic code to calculate a square root.
What temperature does solder melt at? This one's interesting, most
don't know of course, but some can't even make a guess, and even if the
guess is wildly wrong the reasoning can be good.
They showed me a small PCB and asked me what it was.
From the 741 op-amp and the fairly large value capacitors I deduced
that it was probably a low power audio amplifier. Their notes just said "circuit board".
They then handed me a resistor which I told them was a
4k7 5% 1/4 watt resistor. Their notes just said "resistor".
Write a bit of generic code to calculate a square root.
Write a bit of generic code to calculate a square root.
That's what I have in mind.
Probably the applicant has never done this, now he's on his own,
he has to think his way through a problem. That's what you
watch - not the answer, but his thinking.
On April 14, Clive Arthur wrote:
When you interview job candidates, you pose standard
problems, of circuits, PSpice, maybe Mathcad, etc.
Textbook stuff, you expect he knows,
Microsoft and Google are famous for posing brain twisters,
stuff "outside the book" (if any exists, nowadays with the net).
Do you do this? The obvious idea is to test for originality.
How much weight do you place on the responses?
Write a bit of generic code to calculate a square root.
On April 14, Clive Arthur wrote:
When you interview job candidates, you pose standard
problems, of circuits, PSpice, maybe Mathcad, etc.
Textbook stuff, you expect he knows,
Microsoft and Google are famous for posing brain twisters,
stuff "outside the book" (if any exists, nowadays with the net).
Do you do this? The obvious idea is to test for originality.
How much weight do you place on the responses?
Write a bit of generic code to calculate a square root.
That's what I have in mind.
Probably the applicant has never done this, now he's on his own,
he has to think his way through a problem. That's what you
watch - not the answer, but his thinking.
What temperature does solder melt at? This one's interesting, most
don't know of course, but some can't even make a guess, and even if the
guess is wildly wrong the reasoning can be good.
OK, I'll bite - how does one 'reason' one's way to a melting point?
Mentally solve Schrodinger's equation, given the molecular structure of solder?
They showed me a small PCB and asked me what it was.
From the 741 op-amp and the fairly large value capacitors I deduced
that it was probably a low power audio amplifier. Their notes just said
"circuit board".
They then handed me a resistor which I told them was a
4k7 5% 1/4 watt resistor. Their notes just said "resistor".
hmmm... did any candidate fail this exam?
On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 19:10:26 -0700 (PDT), RichD
<r_delaney2001@yahoo.com> wrote:
On April 14, Clive Arthur wrote:
When you interview job candidates, you pose standard
problems, of circuits, PSpice, maybe Mathcad, etc.
Textbook stuff, you expect he knows,
Microsoft and Google are famous for posing brain twisters,
stuff "outside the book" (if any exists, nowadays with the net).
Do you do this? The obvious idea is to test for originality.
How much weight do you place on the responses?
Write a bit of generic code to calculate a square root.
For an integer, just binary search the bits, like an SAR ADC.
On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 08:51:50 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
On 13/04/2022 21:02, RichD wrote:
When you interview job candidates, you pose standard
problems, of circuits, PSpice, maybe Mathcad, etc.
Textbook stuff, you expect he knows, reviewing his resume.
Microsoft and Google are famous for posing brain twisters,
stuff "outside the book" (if any exists, nowadays with the net).
Do you do this? The obvious idea is to test for originality.
Most regular interviewers have their own favourite pet questions.
Discussing the right answers online would defeat the object so they
don't stay useable for long in this age of everything on social media.
How many zeroes does 100! have in its decimal representation is one such
that has been popular in recent years.
How much weight do you place on the responses?
Watching how they approach an unfamiliar problem can be a sufficient
guide to do they have what it takes. Engineering can get away with an
answer that whilst not exactly right is "good enough" for practical
purposes.
A pure mathematics course would expect the right answer (and quickly).
You have to know what characteristics you are recruiting for to pick the
right test question(s) for the position if you are playing this game.
Whether the individual will fit in with the team is often much more
important than technical prowess (provided that is adequate).
Unless that is you enjoy herding cats (something software engineering
management has been compared with - more than our fair share of divas).
Puzzles, especially math puzzles, tell a small part about a person's
prospect as a design engineer. Puzzles are an easy thing for HR folks
to use.
To find out how someone will work with your design team, just do it.
On 14/04/2022 15:35, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 08:51:50 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
On 13/04/2022 21:02, RichD wrote:
When you interview job candidates, you pose standard
problems, of circuits, PSpice, maybe Mathcad, etc.
Textbook stuff, you expect he knows, reviewing his resume.
Microsoft and Google are famous for posing brain twisters,
stuff "outside the book" (if any exists, nowadays with the net).
Do you do this? The obvious idea is to test for originality.
Most regular interviewers have their own favourite pet questions.
Discussing the right answers online would defeat the object so they
don't stay useable for long in this age of everything on social media.
How many zeroes does 100! have in its decimal representation is one such >>> that has been popular in recent years.
How much weight do you place on the responses?
Watching how they approach an unfamiliar problem can be a sufficient
guide to do they have what it takes. Engineering can get away with an
answer that whilst not exactly right is "good enough" for practical
purposes.
A pure mathematics course would expect the right answer (and quickly).
You have to know what characteristics you are recruiting for to pick the >>> right test question(s) for the position if you are playing this game.
Whether the individual will fit in with the team is often much more
important than technical prowess (provided that is adequate).
Unless that is you enjoy herding cats (something software engineering
management has been compared with - more than our fair share of divas).
Puzzles, especially math puzzles, tell a small part about a person's
prospect as a design engineer. Puzzles are an easy thing for HR folks
to use.
The open ended puzzle tests are not particularly useful when used by HR. >Anyway they prefer multiple choice off the shelf standardised
personality tests - so much easier to mark.
To find out how someone will work with your design team, just do it.
Although I draw the line at the nasty modern practice of tasking some
bunch of poor unfortunate would be recruits with solving one of your
tricky real world problems for nothing in an attempt to win the job.
You can generally tell pretty quickly whether or not someone really
knows their stuff as claimed on the CV or has mugged it up from "Ace the >technical interview for Dummies" or even done no prep at all.
"What would you like to ask me about the job?" can be informative too.
We had a couple of short test pieces of code ~20 lines for each language
and the test was to explain what the code does. Much like you would with
a circuit diagram in hardware. Quite a few had no real understanding of
the language(s) that they claimed to know fluently. Saved a lot of time.
One of the key requirements is to have a balanced team.
You need the odd completer finisher to ensure that the last remaining >uninteresting bits do get done when the people who break new ground are
off doing the next interesting big project. Resource is always finite.
I was interviewed for the job of well logging engineer. Besides answering common engineering questions, I was asked to solve the problems written
on a whiteboard behind my back. The usual stuff, like "what is the next number in this sequence".
On April 15, wim...@gmail.com wrote:
I was interviewed for the job of well logging engineer. Besides answering
common engineering questions, I was asked to solve the problems written
on a whiteboard behind my back. The usual stuff, like "what is the next
number in this sequence".
77, 49, 36, 18, ... ?
--
Rich
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:05:59 AM UTC-7, Clive Arthur wrote:
Write a bit of generic code to calculate a square root.int i=1,root=0; while (input > 0) { input -= i; i += 2; root++; }
Well, you didn't say it had to be FAST...
It was interesting to see not just his intelligence and technical
range, but how he generated ideas and reacted to other peoples' ideas. Perhaps a tad dogmatic,
but I guess people are stressed in interviews.
He also cooks, and bakes bread, so we took him for Thai lunch outdoors
and then walked to Tartine and bought him a gigantic sourdough country
loaf. All that sort of stuff suggests how people might work together.
He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our business.
Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic too.
Visibly so.
We agreed that if we hire him, it will be as a virtual intern,
Besides answering common engineering questions, I was asked to solve the >>> problems written on a whiteboard behind my back. The usual stuff, like "what
is the next number in this sequence".
77, 49, 36, 18, ... ?
8, 0, 0, 0 ....
RichD wrote:
On April 15, wim...@gmail.com wrote:
...I was asked to solve the problems written
on a whiteboard behind my back. The usual stuff, like "what is the next
number in this sequence".
77, 49, 36, 18, ... ?
8, 0, 0, 0, 0,....
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
==================================
It was interesting to see not just his intelligence and technical
range, but how he generated ideas and reacted to other peoples' ideas.
Perhaps a tad dogmatic,
** So in reality a whole lot and exactly like JL - another autistic.
but I guess people are stressed in interviews.
** Nope - that is how most autistics permanently ARE.
He also cooks, and bakes bread, so we took him for Thai lunch outdoors
and then walked to Tartine and bought him a gigantic sourdough country
loaf. All that sort of stuff suggests how people might work together.
** No it does not.
He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our business.
** My god, what a shitty business you are in.
But I guess being socially awkward and obsessed with tiny details is some sort advantage when doing PCBs.
Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic too.
** So PCB design is one step below code scribbling ?
Visibly so.
** Wonder what that means.
Hesitant speech, makes no eye contact and looks plain odd?
<It was interesting to see not just his intelligence and technical
range, but how he generated ideas and reacted to other peoples' ideas.
Perhaps a tad dogmatic,
** So in reality a whole lot and exactly like JL - another autistic.
No, quite different. It's called a "spectrum" for good reason.
but I guess people are stressed in interviews.
** Nope - that is how most autistics permanently ARE.
No, quite the opposite.
He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our business.
** My god, what a shitty business you are in.
Thinking objectively,
But I guess being socially awkward and obsessed with tiny details is some sort advantage when doing PCBs.
The tiny details matter.
Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic too.
** So PCB design is one step below code scribbling ?
Visibly so.
** Wonder what that means.
Rocking back and forth into the camera, especially visible with the
close-up cam of a laptop. I let him know so maybe he can try to not do
it in the future.
Mo works with autistics.
Hesitant speech, makes no eye contact and looks plain odd?
No that guy was great otherwise.
On April 16, Phil Hobbs wrote:
Besides answering common engineering questions, I was asked to solve the >>>> problems written on a whiteboard behind my back. The usual stuff, like "what
is the next number in this sequence".
77, 49, 36, 18, ... ?
8, 0, 0, 0 ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yscaDkzHqek
Given a Tom Collins glass, 4" high, 6" circumference.
A spider sits on the outside, 1" from the bottom.
A fly lands on the inside, 1" from the top, on the opposite side.
The spider, who aced the calculus of variations, takes the shortest
route and pounces.
What route, what distance?
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
==================================
<
It was interesting to see not just his intelligence and technical
range, but how he generated ideas and reacted to other peoples' ideas.
Perhaps a tad dogmatic,
** So in reality a whole lot and exactly like JL - another autistic.
No, quite different. It's called a "spectrum" for good reason.
** JL misreads, all the time.
His words "... a tad dogmatic" - are clearly an understatement.
So in reality the applicant was a whole lot dogmatic
Like JL is, 100% of the time, including now.
but I guess people are stressed in interviews.
** Nope - that is how most autistics permanently ARE.
No, quite the opposite.
** Fraid that is a totally undeniable fact.
He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our business.
** My god, what a shitty business you are in.
Thinking objectively,
** Not something JL has ever done.
ASD people cannot be genuinely objective.
Lacking empathy just makes them mean and nasty.
But I guess being socially awkward and obsessed with tiny details is some sort advantage when doing PCBs.
The tiny details matter.
** But there is NO need to be autistic and obsessed to deal with details when needed.
Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic too.
** So PCB design is one step below code scribbling ?
Visibly so.
** Wonder what that means.
Rocking back and forth into the camera, especially visible with the
close-up cam of a laptop. I let him know so maybe he can try to not do
it in the future.
** LOL - better he not LOOK like a nut case - eh ?
Mo works with autistics.
** She is one, you fool.
Hesitant speech, makes no eye contact and looks plain odd?
No that guy was great otherwise.
** Blatant lie.
One autistic has no way to evaluate another.
Be like a blind person trying to evaluate someone's vision.
<It was interesting to see not just his intelligence and technical
range, but how he generated ideas and reacted to other peoples' ideas. >> >> Perhaps a tad dogmatic,
** So in reality a whole lot and exactly like JL - another autistic.
No, quite different. It's called a "spectrum" for good reason.
** JL misreads, all the time.
His words "... a tad dogmatic" - are clearly an understatement.
So in reality the applicant was a whole lot dogmatic
Like JL is, 100% of the time, including now.
but I guess people are stressed in interviews.
** Nope - that is how most autistics permanently ARE.
No, quite the opposite.
** Fraid that is a totally undeniable fact.
He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our business.
** My god, what a shitty business you are in.
Thinking objectively,
** Not something JL has ever done.
ASD people cannot be genuinely objective.
Lacking empathy just makes them mean and nasty.
But I guess being socially awkward and obsessed with tiny details is some sort advantage when doing PCBs.
The tiny details matter.
** But there is NO need to be autistic and obsessed to deal with details when needed.
Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic too.
** So PCB design is one step below code scribbling ?
Visibly so.
** Wonder what that means.
Rocking back and forth into the camera, especially visible with the
close-up cam of a laptop. I let him know so maybe he can try to not do
it in the future.
** LOL - better he not LOOK like a nut case - eh ?
Mo works with autistics.
** She is one, you fool.
Hesitant speech, makes no eye contact and looks plain odd?
No that guy was great otherwise.
** Blatant lie.
One autistic has no way to evaluate another.
Be like a blind person trying to evaluate someone's vision.
The issue isn't personality stuff,
it's electronics:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 15:48:50 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<palli...@gmail.com> wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
ASD people cannot be genuinely objective.
Lacking empathy just makes them mean and nasty.
But I guess being socially awkward and obsessed with tiny details is some sort advantage when doing PCBs.
The tiny details matter.
** But there is NO need to be autistic and obsessed to deal with details when needed.
Hesitant speech, makes no eye contact and looks plain odd?
No that guy was great otherwise.
** Blatant lie.
One autistic has no way to evaluate another.
Be like a blind person trying to evaluate someone's vision.
The issue isn't personality stuff, it's electronics: not in your skill set.
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our business.
** My god, what a shitty business you are in.
But I guess being socially awkward and obsessed with tiny details is some sort advantage when doing PCBs.
Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic too.
** So PCB design is one step below code scribbling ?
Visibly so.
** Wonder what that means.
Hesitant speech, makes no eye contact and looks plain odd?
Met more than a few of them.
Otherwise know as " useful idiots ".
We agreed that if we hire him, it will be as a virtual intern,
** So he is gonna be employing AI?
On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 14:16:01 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<palli...@gmail.com> wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote: =
It was interesting to see not just his intelligence and technical
range, but how he generated ideas and reacted to other peoples' ideas.
Perhaps a tad dogmatic,
** So in reality a whole lot and exactly like JL - another autistic.
No, quite different. It's called a "spectrum" for good reason.
but I guess people are stressed in interviews.
** Nope - that is how most autistics permanently ARE.
No, quite the opposite. All sorts of things that other people worry about, I absolutely ignore.
He also cooks, and bakes bread, so we took him for Thai lunch outdoors
and then walked to Tartine and bought him a gigantic sourdough country
loaf. All that sort of stuff suggests how people might work together.
** No it does not.
He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our business.
** My god, what a shitty business you are in.
Thinking objectively, inventing things that work. It's fun and pays well.
But I guess being socially awkward and obsessed with tiny details is some sort advantage when doing PCBs.
The tiny details matter. There are thousands of possible mistakes on a complex board, and it takes some obsession to get every one right.
As it takes some dedication to be really good at most anything.
Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic too.
** So PCB design is one step below code scribbling ?
Visibly so.
** Wonder what that means.
Rocking back and forth into the camera, especially visible with the close-up cam of a laptop. I let him know so maybe he can try to not do it in the future.
Mo works with autistics. She suggests he do something out of sight, like squeeze a rubber ball maybe.
Hesitant speech, makes no eye contact and looks plain odd?
No that guy was great otherwise. Really smart, but wants to do wireless stuff, which we don't do.
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 7:40:42 PM UTC-7, John Miles, KE5FX wrote:
On Thursday, April 14, 2022 at 3:05:59 AM UTC-7, Clive Arthur wrote:
Write a bit of generic code to calculate a square root.
Isn't FORTRAN generic? Statement function would do it
squareroot(x) = exp(alog(0.5 * x) )
8, 0, 0, 0, 0,....
RichD wrote:
On April 15, wim...@gmail.com wrote:8, 0, 0, 0, 0,....
I was interviewed for the job of well logging engineer. Besides answering >>> common engineering questions, I was asked to solve the problems written
on a whiteboard behind my back. The usual stuff, like "what is the next
number in this sequence".
77, 49, 36, 18, ... ?
--
Rich
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
==================================
<It was interesting to see not just his intelligence and technical
range, but how he generated ideas and reacted to other peoples' ideas. >> >> >> Perhaps a tad dogmatic,
** So in reality a whole lot and exactly like JL - another autistic.
No, quite different. It's called a "spectrum" for good reason.
** JL misreads, all the time.
His words "... a tad dogmatic" - are clearly an understatement.
So in reality the applicant was a whole lot dogmatic
Like JL is, 100% of the time, including now.
but I guess people are stressed in interviews.
** Nope - that is how most autistics permanently ARE.
No, quite the opposite.
** Fraid that is a totally undeniable fact.
He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our business.
** My god, what a shitty business you are in.
Thinking objectively,
** Not something JL has ever done.
ASD people cannot be genuinely objective.
Lacking empathy just makes them mean and nasty.
But I guess being socially awkward and obsessed with tiny details is some sort advantage when doing PCBs.
The tiny details matter.
** But there is NO need to be autistic and obsessed to deal with details when needed.
Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic too.
** So PCB design is one step below code scribbling ?
Visibly so.
** Wonder what that means.
Rocking back and forth into the camera, especially visible with the
close-up cam of a laptop. I let him know so maybe he can try to not do
it in the future.
** LOL - better he not LOOK like a nut case - eh ?
Mo works with autistics.
** She is one, you fool.
Hesitant speech, makes no eye contact and looks plain odd?
No that guy was great otherwise.
** Blatant lie.
One autistic has no way to evaluate another.
Be like a blind person trying to evaluate someone's vision.
The issue isn't personality stuff,
** It is and YOU raised it, in direst relation to " interviewing".
FFS READ your own words !!!.
it's electronics:
** Anyone can see " electronics" was never even mentioned.
What an absurd lie and pathetic obfuscation.
How typically autistic of JL....
On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 19:08:55 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<palli...@gmail.com> wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
How typically autistic of JL....
There is no typical autism. It's not an OGOD (one gene, one disease)
like Huntington's, but it's the sum of hundreds of genetic effects.
Some trends are called "autism" by some people, but that's an
arbitrary prejudice.
You hate engineers because you can't understand the magic that we do. Lots of techs have that syndrome.
No, quite different. It's called a "spectrum" for good reason.It was interesting to see not just his intelligence and technical
range, but how he generated ideas and reacted to other peoples' ideas.
Perhaps a tad dogmatic,
** So in reality a whole lot and exactly like JL - another autistic. >> ><
** JL misreads, all the time.
His words "... a tad dogmatic" - are clearly an understatement.
So in reality the applicant was a whole lot dogmatic
Like JL is, 100% of the time, including now.
but I guess people are stressed in interviews.
** Nope - that is how most autistics permanently ARE.
No, quite the opposite.
** Fraid that is a totally undeniable fact.
He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our business.
** My god, what a shitty business you are in.
Thinking objectively,
** Not something JL has ever done.
ASD people cannot be genuinely objective.
Lacking empathy just makes them mean and nasty.
But I guess being socially awkward and obsessed with tiny details is some sort advantage when doing PCBs.
The tiny details matter.
** But there is NO need to be autistic and obsessed to deal with details when needed.
Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic too.
** So PCB design is one step below code scribbling ?
Visibly so.
** Wonder what that means.
Rocking back and forth into the camera, especially visible with the
close-up cam of a laptop. I let him know so maybe he can try to not do >> >> it in the future.
** LOL - better he not LOOK like a nut case - eh ?
Mo works with autistics.
** She is one, you fool.
Hesitant speech, makes no eye contact and looks plain odd?
No that guy was great otherwise.
** Blatant lie.
One autistic has no way to evaluate another.
Be like a blind person trying to evaluate someone's vision.
The issue isn't personality stuff,
** It is and YOU raised it, in direst relation to " interviewing".
FFS READ your own words !!!.
it's electronics:
** Anyone can see " electronics" was never even mentioned.
When we interview EEs, of course we talk about electronics.
Personalities matter too of course,
What an absurd lie and pathetic obfuscation.
How typically autistic of JL....
There is no typical autism.
like Huntington's, but it's the sum of hundreds of genetic effects.
You hate engineers ....
ljla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
There is no typical autism.** Yet another dumb obfuscation - plus 100% false.
like Huntington's, but it's the sum of hundreds of genetic effects.
** But just ONE overriding one.
There is no typical autism.
** Yet another dumb obfuscation - plus 100% false.
like Huntington's, but it's the sum of hundreds of genetic effects.
** But just ONE overriding one.
Completely wrong.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fncel.2019.00385/full
bill....@ieee.org wrote:
like Huntington's, but it's the sum of hundreds of genetic effects.
** But just ONE overriding one.
Completely wrong.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fncel.2019.00385/full
** Only CONGENITAL LIARS post links like that.
And clueless Google Monkeys like Bill Sloman.
It's really just the same as saying:
" .. proof of my (very likely wrong assertion is in their somewhere - so go find it Rover. "
Well, NO it fucking ain't: WOOF WOOF !!!
but it's the sum of hundreds of genetic effects.
** But just ONE overriding one.
Completely wrong.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fncel.2019.00385/full
** Only CONGENITAL LIARS post links like that.
And clueless Google Monkeys like Bill Sloman.
" .. proof of my (very likely wrong assertion is in their somewhere - so go find it Rover. "
"As is often the case with complex diseases, individuals with similar pathogenic variants may have drastically varying phenotypes".
bill....@ieee.org wrote:
** Re autism, JL postulated:
but it's the sum of hundreds of genetic effects.
** But just ONE overriding one.
** Bill got on his high horse:.
Completely wrong.
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fncel.2019.00385/full
** Only CONGENITAL LIARS post links like that.
And clueless Google Monkeys like Bill Sloman.
m fairly sure that Robert Plomin's "Blueprint" says much the same thing, but that's a book and I can't post a link to it's content.
" .. proof of my (very likely wrong assertion is in their somewhere - so go find it Rover. "
"As is often the case with complex diseases, individuals with similar pathogenic variants may have drastically varying phenotypes".
That sentence is in the introduction - not a lot of reading is required to get to it.
** Purest ** gobbledegook ** having ZERO to do with my simple and very true claim.
That autistics have one characteristic thing in common.
On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 11:37:50 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/04/2022 15:35, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
To find out how someone will work with your design team, just do it.
Although I draw the line at the nasty modern practice of tasking some
bunch of poor unfortunate would be recruits with solving one of your
tricky real world problems for nothing in an attempt to win the job.
You can generally tell pretty quickly whether or not someone really
knows their stuff as claimed on the CV or has mugged it up from "Ace the
technical interview for Dummies" or even done no prep at all.
"What would you like to ask me about the job?" can be informative too.
We had a couple of short test pieces of code ~20 lines for each language
and the test was to explain what the code does. Much like you would with
a circuit diagram in hardware. Quite a few had no real understanding of
the language(s) that they claimed to know fluently. Saved a lot of time.
One of the key requirements is to have a balanced team.
You need the odd completer finisher to ensure that the last remaining
uninteresting bits do get done when the people who break new ground are
off doing the next interesting big project. Resource is always finite.
We did a job interview yesterday. The guy arrived at 11 AM and left
just after 6 PM. I walked him over the I80 footbridge back to his car.
We brainstormed the architecture and details of a planned product
line, including things that we haven't yet resolved. Free consulting.
He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our
business. Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic
too. Visibly so.
We agreed that if we hire him, it will be as a virtual intern, in
other words we'd try it for few months to see how it works and part
friends if not. That was his suggestion, and I like it.
On 16/04/2022 16:12, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 11:37:50 +0100, Martin Brown
<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
On 14/04/2022 15:35, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
To find out how someone will work with your design team, just do it.
Although I draw the line at the nasty modern practice of tasking some
bunch of poor unfortunate would be recruits with solving one of your
tricky real world problems for nothing in an attempt to win the job.
You can generally tell pretty quickly whether or not someone really
knows their stuff as claimed on the CV or has mugged it up from "Ace the >>> technical interview for Dummies" or even done no prep at all.
"What would you like to ask me about the job?" can be informative too.
We had a couple of short test pieces of code ~20 lines for each language >>> and the test was to explain what the code does. Much like you would with >>> a circuit diagram in hardware. Quite a few had no real understanding of
the language(s) that they claimed to know fluently. Saved a lot of time. >>>
One of the key requirements is to have a balanced team.
You need the odd completer finisher to ensure that the last remaining
uninteresting bits do get done when the people who break new ground are
off doing the next interesting big project. Resource is always finite.
We did a job interview yesterday. The guy arrived at 11 AM and left
just after 6 PM. I walked him over the I80 footbridge back to his car.
We brainstormed the architecture and details of a planned product
line, including things that we haven't yet resolved. Free consulting.
If you are going to offer a job to one of the candidates at the end of
the interview process then fair enough. What I don't like are vapourware
jobs just intended to obtain free consulting from would be candidates.
Right now it isn't a problem in the UK almost everywhere is short
staffed coming out of lockdown and it is very much a sellers market.
He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our
business. Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic
too. Visibly so.
High functioning autistic engineers can be very good if suitably
motivated and pointed at the right problems (as various security
breaches of various US military computers will attest).
We agreed that if we hire him, it will be as a virtual intern, in
other words we'd try it for few months to see how it works and part
friends if not. That was his suggestion, and I like it.
They can be a bit of a handful. Hope it works out for both sides.
ljla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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No, quite different. It's called a "spectrum" for good reason.It was interesting to see not just his intelligence and technical >> >> >> >> range, but how he generated ideas and reacted to other peoples' ideas.
Perhaps a tad dogmatic,
** So in reality a whole lot and exactly like JL - another autistic. >> >> ><
** JL misreads, all the time.
His words "... a tad dogmatic" - are clearly an understatement.
So in reality the applicant was a whole lot dogmatic
Like JL is, 100% of the time, including now.
but I guess people are stressed in interviews.
** Nope - that is how most autistics permanently ARE.
No, quite the opposite.
** Fraid that is a totally undeniable fact.
He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our business.
** My god, what a shitty business you are in.
Thinking objectively,
** Not something JL has ever done.
ASD people cannot be genuinely objective.
Lacking empathy just makes them mean and nasty.
But I guess being socially awkward and obsessed with tiny details is some sort advantage when doing PCBs.
The tiny details matter.
** But there is NO need to be autistic and obsessed to deal with details when needed.
Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic too.
** So PCB design is one step below code scribbling ?
Visibly so.
** Wonder what that means.
Rocking back and forth into the camera, especially visible with the
close-up cam of a laptop. I let him know so maybe he can try to not do >> >> >> it in the future.
** LOL - better he not LOOK like a nut case - eh ?
Mo works with autistics.
** She is one, you fool.
Hesitant speech, makes no eye contact and looks plain odd?
No that guy was great otherwise.
** Blatant lie.
One autistic has no way to evaluate another.
Be like a blind person trying to evaluate someone's vision.
The issue isn't personality stuff,
** It is and YOU raised it, in direst relation to " interviewing".
FFS READ your own words !!!.
it's electronics:
** Anyone can see " electronics" was never even mentioned.
When we interview EEs, of course we talk about electronics.
** Yaawwwnnn - more obfuscation.
Plus JL resorts to the Royal Plural.
** Anyone can see " electronics" was never even mentioned.
When we interview EEs, of course we talk about electronics.
** Yaawwwnnn - more obfuscation.
Plus JL resorts to the Royal Plural.
The interview was one applicant and 5 of us. Also known as "we".
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
The interview was one applicant and 5 of us. Also known as "we".
** Jesus fucking Christ Almighty !!!!!!
So now JL tells us he lines up a panel of * 5 smug autistics * like himself to interrogate and intimidate individual victims.
What a living nightmare, Kafka would be impressed.
Worst possible method of finding actually competent staff.
Might as well flip a coin.
..... Phil
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
==================================
It was interesting to see not just his intelligence and technical
range, but how he generated ideas and reacted to other peoples' ideas. >> Perhaps a tad dogmatic,
<** So in reality a whole lot and exactly like JL - another autistic.
No, quite different. It's called a "spectrum" for good reason.** JL misreads, all the time.
His words "... a tad dogmatic" - are clearly an understatement.
So in reality the applicant was a whole lot dogmatic
Like JL is, 100% of the time, including now.
but I guess people are stressed in interviews.
** Nope - that is how most autistics permanently ARE.
No, quite the opposite.** Fraid that is a totally undeniable fact.
He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our business.
** My god, what a shitty business you are in.
Thinking objectively,** Not something JL has ever done.
ASD people cannot be genuinely objective.
Lacking empathy just makes them mean and nasty.
But I guess being socially awkward and obsessed with tiny details is some sort advantage when doing PCBs.
The tiny details matter.** But there is NO need to be autistic and obsessed to deal with details when needed.
Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic too.
** So PCB design is one step below code scribbling ?
Visibly so.
** Wonder what that means.
Rocking back and forth into the camera, especially visible with the close-up cam of a laptop. I let him know so maybe he can try to not do** LOL - better he not LOOK like a nut case - eh ?
it in the future.
Mo works with autistics.
** She is one, you fool.
Hesitant speech, makes no eye contact and looks plain odd?
No that guy was great otherwise.** Blatant lie.
One autistic has no way to evaluate another.
Be like a blind person trying to evaluate someone's vision.
..... Phil
So now JL tells us he lines up a panel of * 5 smug autistics * like himself to interrogate and intimidate individual victims.
What a living nightmare, Kafka would be impressed.
Worst possible method of finding actually competent staff.
Might as well flip a coin.
1 2 1 interviewers miss a lot.
You learn that from having multiple people interviewing.
One autistic has no way to evaluate another.
Be like a blind person trying to evaluate someone's vision.
Phil doesn't understand the autistic spectrum
On Saturday, 16 April 2022 at 23:48:54 UTC+1, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
==================================
<
It was interesting to see not just his intelligence and technical
range, but how he generated ideas and reacted to other peoples' ideas. >> > >> Perhaps a tad dogmatic,
** So in reality a whole lot and exactly like JL - another autistic.
No, quite different. It's called a "spectrum" for good reason.** JL misreads, all the time.
His words "... a tad dogmatic" - are clearly an understatement.
So in reality the applicant was a whole lot dogmatic
Like JL is, 100% of the time, including now.
** Fraid that is a totally undeniable fact.but I guess people are stressed in interviews.
** Nope - that is how most autistics permanently ARE.
No, quite the opposite.
** Not something JL has ever done.He admits to being autistic, which is if anything an asset in our business.
** My god, what a shitty business you are in.
Thinking objectively,
ASD people cannot be genuinely objective.
Lacking empathy just makes them mean and nasty.
** But there is NO need to be autistic and obsessed to deal with details when needed.
But I guess being socially awkward and obsessed with tiny details is some sort advantage when doing PCBs.
The tiny details matter.
** LOL - better he not LOOK like a nut case - eh ?Another guy that we zoom interviewed this week is autistic too.
** So PCB design is one step below code scribbling ?
Visibly so.
** Wonder what that means.
Rocking back and forth into the camera, especially visible with the
close-up cam of a laptop. I let him know so maybe he can try to not do
it in the future.
Mo works with autistics.
** She is one, you fool.
** Blatant lie.Hesitant speech, makes no eye contact and looks plain odd?
No that guy was great otherwise.
One autistic has no way to evaluate another.
Be like a blind person trying to evaluate someone's vision.
..... Phil
Phil doesn't understand the autistic spectrum
Tabby puked another hair ball:
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So now JL tells us he lines up a panel of * 5 smug autistics * like himself to interrogate and intimidate individual victims.
What a living nightmare, Kafka would be impressed.
Worst possible method of finding actually competent staff.
Might as well flip a coin.
1 2 1 interviewers miss a lot.** Not if they are reasonably smart people and NOT austistic fuckwits like YOU.
You learn that from having multiple people interviewing.** No you don't.
FOAD Tabby
On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 01:22:07 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabb...@gmail.com>
Phil doesn't understand the autistic spectrumAnd he is himself in a constant state of rage.
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what-is-intermittent-explosive-disorder
On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 12:03:46 UTC+1, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
Tabby puked another hair ball:
========================
So now JL tells us he lines up a panel of * 5 smug autistics * like himself to interrogate and intimidate individual victims.
What a living nightmare, Kafka would be impressed.
Worst possible method of finding actually competent staff.
Might as well flip a coin.
I've consistently seen that >1 people pick up on points than 1 alone miss. Reasonably smart does not mean nothing gets missed. (It's why we have teams.)1 2 1 interviewers miss a lot.** Not if they are reasonably smart people and NOT austistic fuckwits like YOU.
You learn that from having multiple people interviewing.** No you don't.
FOAD Tabby
Phil considers himself reasonable :)
On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 12:03:46 UTC+1, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
Tabby puked another hair ball:
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** Not if they are reasonably smart people and NOT austistic fuckwits like YOU.
So now JL tells us he lines up a panel of * 5 smug autistics * like himself to interrogate and intimidate individual victims.
What a living nightmare, Kafka would be impressed.
Worst possible method of finding actually competent staff.
Might as well flip a coin.
1 2 1 interviewers miss a lot.
I've consistently seen that >1 people pick up on points than 1 alone miss. Reasonably smart does not mean nothing gets missed. (It's why we have teams.)
On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 15:07:14 UTC+1, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 01:22:07 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabb...@gmail.com>
Phil doesn't understand the autistic spectrumAnd he is himself in a constant state of rage.
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what-is-intermittent-explosive-disorder
Yup. Not the only one on here.
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 16:08:51 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabb...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 15:07:14 UTC+1, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 01:22:07 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabb...@gmail.com>
Phil doesn't understand the autistic spectrumAnd he is himself in a constant state of rage.
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what-is-intermittent-explosive-disorder
Yup. Not the only one on here.The world is becoming more tribal, for several reasons. That makes
some people crazy.
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 16:06:28 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 12:03:46 UTC+1, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
Tabby puked another hair ball:
========================
** Not if they are reasonably smart people and NOT austistic fuckwits like YOU.
So now JL tells us he lines up a panel of * 5 smug autistics * like himself to interrogate and intimidate individual victims.
What a living nightmare, Kafka would be impressed.
Worst possible method of finding actually competent staff.
Might as well flip a coin.
1 2 1 interviewers miss a lot.
I've consistently seen that >1 people pick up on points than 1 alone miss. Reasonably smart does not mean nothing gets missed. (It's why we have teams.)
We like to spend some time brainstorming with the applicant and the
people he will be working with. A lot can get discovered, technically
and otherwise. Why not?
I wonder what it would be like to work for Phil.
John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 16:06:28 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 12:03:46 UTC+1, palli...@gmail.com wrote: >>>> Tabby puked another hair ball:
========================
** Not if they are reasonably smart people and NOT austistic fuckwits like YOU.
So now JL tells us he lines up a panel of * 5 smug autistics * like himself to interrogate and intimidate individual victims.
What a living nightmare, Kafka would be impressed.
Worst possible method of finding actually competent staff.
Might as well flip a coin.
1 2 1 interviewers miss a lot.
I've consistently seen that >1 people pick up on points than 1 alone miss. Reasonably smart does not mean nothing gets missed. (It's why we have teams.)
We like to spend some time brainstorming with the applicant and the
people he will be working with. A lot can get discovered, technically
and otherwise. Why not?
I wonder what it would be like to work for Phil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc4C7GC6MGE
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 16:08:51 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabb...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 15:07:14 UTC+1, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 21 Apr 2022 01:22:07 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabb...@gmail.com>
Phil doesn't understand the autistic spectrumAnd he is himself in a constant state of rage.
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/what-is-intermittent-explosive-disorder
Yup. Not the only one on here.The world is becoming more tribal, for several reasons. That makes some people crazy.
On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 19:27:33 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 16:06:28 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 12:03:46 UTC+1, palli...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> Tabby puked another hair ball:
========================
** Not if they are reasonably smart people and NOT austistic fuckwits like YOU.
So now JL tells us he lines up a panel of * 5 smug autistics * like himself to interrogate and intimidate individual victims.
What a living nightmare, Kafka would be impressed.
Worst possible method of finding actually competent staff.
Might as well flip a coin.
1 2 1 interviewers miss a lot.
I've consistently seen that >1 people pick up on points than 1 alone miss. Reasonably smart does not mean nothing gets missed. (It's why we have teams.)
We like to spend some time brainstorming with the applicant and the
people he will be working with. A lot can get discovered, technically
and otherwise. Why not?
I wonder what it would be like to work for Phil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc4C7GC6MGE
I meant the other Phil of course.
John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 19:27:33 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 16:06:28 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 12:03:46 UTC+1, palli...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> Tabby puked another hair ball:
========================
** Not if they are reasonably smart people and NOT austistic fuckwits like YOU.
So now JL tells us he lines up a panel of * 5 smug autistics * like himself to interrogate and intimidate individual victims.
What a living nightmare, Kafka would be impressed.
Worst possible method of finding actually competent staff.
Might as well flip a coin.
1 2 1 interviewers miss a lot.
I've consistently seen that >1 people pick up on points than 1 alone miss. Reasonably smart does not mean nothing gets missed. (It's why we have teams.)
We like to spend some time brainstorming with the applicant and the
people he will be working with. A lot can get discovered, technically
and otherwise. Why not?
I wonder what it would be like to work for Phil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc4C7GC6MGE
I meant the other Phil of course.
I knew that. ;)
He and I bounce off things in different ways. I expect my approach is a
bit more comfortable for most folks.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 22:09:22 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2022 19:27:33 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 24 Apr 2022 16:06:28 -0700 (PDT), Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote:
On Thursday, 21 April 2022 at 12:03:46 UTC+1, palli...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> Tabby puked another hair ball:
========================
** Not if they are reasonably smart people and NOT austistic fuckwits like YOU.
So now JL tells us he lines up a panel of * 5 smug autistics * like himself to interrogate and intimidate individual victims.
What a living nightmare, Kafka would be impressed.
Worst possible method of finding actually competent staff.
Might as well flip a coin.
1 2 1 interviewers miss a lot.
I've consistently seen that >1 people pick up on points than 1 alone miss. Reasonably smart does not mean nothing gets missed. (It's why we have teams.)
We like to spend some time brainstorming with the applicant and the
people he will be working with. A lot can get discovered, technically >>>>> and otherwise. Why not?
I wonder what it would be like to work for Phil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc4C7GC6MGE
I meant the other Phil of course.
I knew that. ;)
He and I bounce off things in different ways. I expect my approach is a
bit more comfortable for most folks.
Cheers
Phil Hobbs
You're just a big teddy bear.
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