Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has
caused.

1. Russia is in trouble, most of its weapons are MADE in Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKi8D5R2Wg

2. Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped its
production. The main reason for this is a lack of component parts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FObJ6haXIAM-lFV?format=jpg&name=small

3. Russia has no advanced semiconductor industry

“Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has no advanced semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC entirely to make
its leading-edge chips,” says Orme.Mar 3, 2022

4. Taiwan’s semiconductor ban could spell catastrophe for Russia

Russia is dependent on Taiwan's semiconductors for everything from the manufacture of laptops to military equipment. The cutting off of this
supply may be disastrous for Russia.

Russia’s reliance on Taiwan for semiconductors

Russia is wholly dependent on TSMC for the high-end semiconductors required
for the manufacture of anything from laptops and smartphones to equipment
for the country’s military and security services.

5. Is Russia out of semiconductor options?

Samsung, Russia’s only real alternative to TSMC for high-end contract manufacturing services, now comes under South Korea's semiconductor export embargo on Russia. “Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has
no advanced semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC
entirely to make its leading-edge chips,” says Orme. TSMC, along with South Korea’s Samsung, has a monopoly on five-nanometre chips – the most
widespread small chip in circulation used by companies including Apple, Qualcomm and Huawei.

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/special-focus/ukraine-crisis/taiwan- semiconductor-ban-russia-catastrophe

6. Russia faces 'brain drain' as thousands flee abroad since start of war
with Ukraine - BBC News
- as many as 200,000 have left Russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=635iLwWdsU4

7. Mass layoffs in Russia. Sanctions over the war affect the employment of ordinary Russians
- as many as 500,000 may be laid off starting in April https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVrxeldECXg




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On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 00:55:24 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
wrote:

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has
caused.

1. Russia is in trouble, most of its weapons are MADE in Ukraine >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKi8D5R2Wg

2. Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped its >production. The main reason for this is a lack of component parts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FObJ6haXIAM-lFV?format=jpg&name=small

3. Russia has no advanced semiconductor industry

“Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has no advanced >semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC entirely to make
its leading-edge chips,” says Orme.Mar 3, 2022

4. Taiwan’s semiconductor ban could spell catastrophe for Russia

Russia is dependent on Taiwan's semiconductors for everything from the >manufacture of laptops to military equipment. The cutting off of this
supply may be disastrous for Russia.

Russia’s reliance on Taiwan for semiconductors

Russia is wholly dependent on TSMC for the high-end semiconductors required >for the manufacture of anything from laptops and smartphones to equipment
for the country’s military and security services.

5. Is Russia out of semiconductor options?

Samsung, Russia’s only real alternative to TSMC for high-end contract >manufacturing services, now comes under South Korea's semiconductor export >embargo on Russia. “Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has
no advanced semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC
entirely to make its leading-edge chips,” says Orme. TSMC, along with South >Korea’s Samsung, has a monopoly on five-nanometre chips – the most
widespread small chip in circulation used by companies including Apple, >Qualcomm and Huawei.

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/special-focus/ukraine-crisis/taiwan- >semiconductor-ban-russia-catastrophe

6. Russia faces 'brain drain' as thousands flee abroad since start of war >with Ukraine - BBC News
- as many as 200,000 have left Russia >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=635iLwWdsU4

7. Mass layoffs in Russia. Sanctions over the war affect the employment of >ordinary Russians
- as many as 500,000 may be laid off starting in April >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVrxeldECXg

Yikes. Back to the 19th century.

I wonder about tractors and trucks and other civilian stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPMtmuuVNw



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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 4 Apr 2022 03:08:50 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t2dng2$ond$2@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET has been 53.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults"
to USENET.

3sR95Sph+udE

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Anybody who uses Ukraine's 100% state-controlled media
as a source about Russia is an IDIOT...

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Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has
caused.

1. Russia is in trouble, most of its weapons are MADE in Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKi8D5R2Wg

2. Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped its production. The main reason for this is a lack of component parts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FObJ6haXIAM-lFV?format=jpg&name=small

3. Russia has no advanced semiconductor industry

"Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has no advanced semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC entirely to make
its leading-edge chips," says Orme.Mar 3, 2022

4. Taiwan's semiconductor ban could spell catastrophe for Russia

Russia is dependent on Taiwan's semiconductors for everything from the manufacture of laptops to military equipment. The cutting off of this
supply may be disastrous for Russia.

Russia's reliance on Taiwan for semiconductors

Russia is wholly dependent on TSMC for the high-end semiconductors required for the manufacture of anything from laptops and smartphones to equipment
for the country's military and security services.

5. Is Russia out of semiconductor options?

Samsung, Russia's only real alternative to TSMC for high-end contract manufacturing services, now comes under South Korea's semiconductor export embargo on Russia. "Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has
no advanced semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC
entirely to make its leading-edge chips," says Orme. TSMC, along with South Korea's Samsung, has a monopoly on five-nanometre chips - the most
widespread small chip in circulation used by companies including Apple, Qualcomm and Huawei.

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/special-focus/ukraine-crisis/taiwan- semiconductor-ban-russia-catastrophe

6. Russia faces 'brain drain' as thousands flee abroad since start of war with Ukraine - BBC News
- as many as 200,000 have left Russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=635iLwWdsU4

7. Mass layoffs in Russia. Sanctions over the war affect the employment of ordinary Russians
- as many as 500,000 may be laid off starting in April https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVrxeldECXg

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Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is the stalker a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
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From: Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Russia is screwed
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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 4 Apr 2022 03:08:50 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t2dng2$ond$2@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to USENET has been 53.7% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults"
to USENET.

3sR95Sph+udE

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 4 Apr 2022 03:15:01 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t2dnrl$ond$3@dont-email.me>.

Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
to USENET has been 53.8% of its posts contributing "nothing except
insults" to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

8wtg4+dzdPOz

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On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 1:08:57 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:

Mike Monett <spa...@not.com> wrote:

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has caused.

1. Russia is in trouble, most of its weapons are MADE in Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKi8D5R2Wg

2. Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped its production. The main reason for this is a lack of component parts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FObJ6haXIAM-lFV?format=jpg&name=small

3. Russia has no advanced semiconductor industry

"Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has no advanced semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC entirely to make its leading-edge chips," says Orme.Mar 3, 2022

4. Taiwan's semiconductor ban could spell catastrophe for Russia

Russia is dependent on Taiwan's semiconductors for everything from the manufacture of laptops to military equipment. The cutting off of this supply may be disastrous for Russia.

Russia's reliance on Taiwan for semiconductors

Russia is wholly dependent on TSMC for the high-end semiconductors required for the manufacture of anything from laptops and smartphones to equipment for the country's military and security services.

5. Is Russia out of semiconductor options?

Samsung, Russia's only real alternative to TSMC for high-end contract manufacturing services, now comes under South Korea's semiconductor export embargo on Russia. "Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has no advanced semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC entirely to make its leading-edge chips," says Orme. TSMC, along with South Korea's Samsung, has a monopoly on five-nanometre chips - the most widespread small chip in circulation used by companies including Apple, Qualcomm and Huawei.

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/special-focus/ukraine-crisis/taiwan- semiconductor-ban-russia-catastrophe

6. Russia faces 'brain drain' as thousands flee abroad since start of war with Ukraine - BBC News
- as many as 200,000 have left Russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=635iLwWdsU4

7. Mass layoffs in Russia. Sanctions over the war affect the employment of ordinary Russians
- as many as 500,000 may be laid off starting in April https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVrxeldECXg

Anybody who uses Ukraine's 100% state-controlled media as a source about Russia is an IDIOT...

Says John Doe, who seems to believe everything that Russia Today tells him.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 4 Apr 2022 05:21:07 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t2dv83$4fj$1@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET has been 53.8% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults"
to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

MmNhBEpEMpOg

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Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
except when it got a severe spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

Is the stalker a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

See also...
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

Spanked Eddie...

--
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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 4 Apr 2022 05:21:07 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t2dv83$4fj$1@dont-email.me>.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to USENET has been 53.8% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults"
to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

MmNhBEpEMpOg

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Bozo doesn't know a woman from a hole in the ground.


Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

"the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
(Bozo paraphrased)

"the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
(Bill Sloman)

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On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 1:08:57 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:

Mike Monett <spa...@not.com> wrote:

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has
caused.

1. Russia is in trouble, most of its weapons are MADE in Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKi8D5R2Wg

2. Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped its
production. The main reason for this is a lack of component parts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FObJ6haXIAM-lFV?format=jpg&name=small

3. Russia has no advanced semiconductor industry

"Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has no advanced
semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC entirely to make >> > its leading-edge chips," says Orme.Mar 3, 2022

4. Taiwan's semiconductor ban could spell catastrophe for Russia

Russia is dependent on Taiwan's semiconductors for everything from the
manufacture of laptops to military equipment. The cutting off of this
supply may be disastrous for Russia.

Russia's reliance on Taiwan for semiconductors

Russia is wholly dependent on TSMC for the high-end semiconductors required
for the manufacture of anything from laptops and smartphones to equipment >> > for the country's military and security services.

5. Is Russia out of semiconductor options?

Samsung, Russia's only real alternative to TSMC for high-end contract
manufacturing services, now comes under South Korea's semiconductor export >> > embargo on Russia. "Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has >> > no advanced semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC
entirely to make its leading-edge chips," says Orme. TSMC, along with South
Korea's Samsung, has a monopoly on five-nanometre chips - the most
widespread small chip in circulation used by companies including Apple,
Qualcomm and Huawei.

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/special-focus/ukraine-crisis/taiwan-
semiconductor-ban-russia-catastrophe

6. Russia faces 'brain drain' as thousands flee abroad since start of war >> > with Ukraine - BBC News
- as many as 200,000 have left Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=635iLwWdsU4

7. Mass layoffs in Russia. Sanctions over the war affect the employment of >> > ordinary Russians
- as many as 500,000 may be laid off starting in April
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVrxeldECXg

Anybody who uses Ukraine's 100% state-controlled media as a source about Russia is an IDIOT...

Says John Doe, who seems to believe everything that Russia Today tells him.

--
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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Mon, 4 Apr 2022 05:27:41 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t2dvkd$4fj$3@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET has been 53.8% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults"
to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

T0Y6K5sOBbX2

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On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 3:21:14 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:

Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 1:08:57 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:

Mike Monett <spa...@not.com> wrote:

<snip>

Anybody who uses Ukraine's 100% state-controlled media as a source about Russia is an IDIOT...

Says John Doe, who seems to believe everything that Russia Today tells him.

Bill doesn't know a woman from a hole in the ground.

One has to wonder why John Doe thinks that, or why he feels the need to mention it in this thread.

He does seem to find it hard to come up with new offensive observations so he does make a habit of trying to recycle one's he came up with earlier (all which I've snipped).

It looks as if he feels that his role is confined to that of being an offensive irrelevance.

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Johnny...

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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 00:55:24 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
wrote:

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has >>caused.

1. Russia is in trouble, most of its weapons are MADE in Ukraine >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKi8D5R2Wg

2. Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped its >>production. The main reason for this is a lack of component parts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FObJ6haXIAM-lFV?format=jpg&name=small

[...]

Yikes. Back to the 19th century.

I wonder about tractors and trucks and other civilian stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPMtmuuVNw

+1

Also see:

Russia's Economy in Freefall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPprkiMQCg

Russian oil will stop soon. See "Russian Refineries' Reduced
Runs Wreck, Oil & Gas",
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbOHSrQL9o

Peter Zeihan: Putin's Vanishing Oil - Peter Zeihan Russia Ukraine War
Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27cjlFSFCE

No more electronics, no more tractors, trucks, civilian stuff. No more cellphones, avionics, missiles, tanks, nukes.

War on bicycles with bows and arrows.



--
MRM

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Mike Monett <spamme@not.com> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 00:55:24 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
wrote:

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has >>>caused.

1. Russia is in trouble, most of its weapons are MADE in Ukraine >>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKi8D5R2Wg

2. Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped its >>>production. The main reason for this is a lack of component parts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FObJ6haXIAM-lFV?format=jpg&name=small

[...]

Yikes. Back to the 19th century.

I wonder about tractors and trucks and other civilian stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPMtmuuVNw

+1

Also see:

Russia's Economy in Freefall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPprkiMQCg

Russian oil will stop soon. See "Russian Refineries' Reduced
Runs Wreck, Oil & Gas",
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbOHSrQL9o

Peter Zeihan: Putin's Vanishing Oil - Peter Zeihan Russia Ukraine War
Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27cjlFSFCE

No more electronics, no more tractors, trucks, civilian stuff. No more cellphones, avionics, missiles, tanks, nukes.

War on bicycles with bows and arrows.

RUSSIA - SABOTAGE of Global Economy. 10 Reasons Why WAR Will Cause a
GLOBAL RECESSION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4OoLtW7wyE

Bad News. We are also screwed.



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Mike Monett wrote:
=================

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has >>caused.

Also see:

Russia's Economy in Freefall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPprkiMQCg

Russian oil will stop soon. See "Russian Refineries' Reduced
Runs Wreck, Oil & Gas",
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbOHSrQL9o

Peter Zeihan: Putin's Vanishing Oil - Peter Zeihan Russia Ukraine War
Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27cjlFSFCE

No more electronics, no more tractors, trucks, civilian stuff. No more cellphones, avionics, missiles, tanks, nukes.

War on bicycles with bows and arrows.

** You made me think of something a loooong time ago.

Living in Sydney, Australia in the early 70s, the ONLY Russian made product I ever saw was a transistor radio:
This one, the Astrad Auriga:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZJPKu1_Mx8

My high school buddy plus Sydney Uni best mate "Jim Prendergast" owned one and often sang its praises.
I mention his name cos he moved to the USA, married a US gal ( Janice, his dental nurse) and enjoyed a long career in electronics.
Known as " E. James Prendergast" he worked for AT&T, DuPont & Motorola in management roles.
Wound up living in New Jersey doing a long stint as CEO of the IEEE.

Now ain't that damn funny ??
Anyone who knows him or how to make contact is welcome to check my story.

Well, that was 50 years ago when Russia was mightily feared for it arsenal of giant nukes.
And crazy leaders like Nikita Khruschev.

What the heck is new?


...... Phil

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On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 8:17:38 PM UTC+10, palli...@gmail.com wrote:

Mike Monett wrote:
=================

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has >>caused.

Also see:

Russia's Economy in Freefall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPprkiMQCg

Russian oil will stop soon. See "Russian Refineries' Reduced
Runs Wreck, Oil & Gas",
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbOHSrQL9o

Peter Zeihan: Putin's Vanishing Oil - Peter Zeihan Russia Ukraine War Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27cjlFSFCE

No more electronics, no more tractors, trucks, civilian stuff. No more cellphones, avionics, missiles, tanks, nukes.

War on bicycles with bows and arrows.

** You made me think of something a loooong time ago.

Living in Sydney, Australia in the early 70s, the ONLY Russian made product I ever saw was a transistor radio:
This one, the Astrad Auriga:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZJPKu1_Mx8

My high school buddy plus Sydney Uni best mate "Jim Prendergast" owned one and often sang its praises.
I mention his name cos he moved to the USA, married a US gal ( Janice, his dental nurse) and enjoyed a long career in electronics.
Known as " E. James Prendergast" he worked for AT&T, DuPont & Motorola in management roles.
Wound up living in New Jersey doing a long stint as CEO of the IEEE.

Now ain't that damn funny ??
Anyone who knows him or how to make contact is welcome to check my story.

Well, that was 50 years ago when Russia was mightily feared for it arsenal of giant nukes.
And crazy leaders like Nikita Khruschev.

Nikita Khruschev doesn't seem to have been all that crazy. He wasn't crazy enough to keep Leonid Brezhnev happy, but he famously denounced Stalin's "cult of personality".
He was crazy enough to have survived under Stalin - somebody saner would have opted for a less prominent role.

What the heck is new?

Quite a lot, but Phil will have to wait until Fox/Sky News tells him what it is.

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On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 03:17:33 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike Monett wrote:
=================

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has
caused.

Also see:

Russia's Economy in Freefall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPprkiMQCg

Russian oil will stop soon. See "Russian Refineries' Reduced
Runs Wreck, Oil & Gas",
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbOHSrQL9o

Peter Zeihan: Putin's Vanishing Oil - Peter Zeihan Russia Ukraine War
Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27cjlFSFCE

No more electronics, no more tractors, trucks, civilian stuff. No more
cellphones, avionics, missiles, tanks, nukes.

War on bicycles with bows and arrows.

** You made me think of something a loooong time ago.

Living in Sydney, Australia in the early 70s, the ONLY Russian made product I ever saw was a transistor radio:
This one, the Astrad Auriga:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZJPKu1_Mx8

My high school buddy plus Sydney Uni best mate "Jim Prendergast" owned one and often sang its praises.
I mention his name cos he moved to the USA, married a US gal ( Janice, his dental nurse) and enjoyed a long career in electronics.
Known as " E. James Prendergast" he worked for AT&T, DuPont & Motorola in management roles.
Wound up living in New Jersey doing a long stint as CEO of the IEEE.

Now ain't that damn funny ??
Anyone who knows him or how to make contact is welcome to check my story.

Well, that was 50 years ago when Russia was mightily feared for it arsenal of giant nukes.
And crazy leaders like Nikita Khruschev.

What the heck is new?

Not much. The Russians are still behaving like the Russians did 800
years ago. There is some peculiar isolation of Russia from
civilization.

The current exodus of the minority rational people is not making
things any better.



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On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 11:05:24 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
wrote:

Mike Monett <spamme@not.com> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 00:55:24 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
wrote:

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has >>>>caused.

1. Russia is in trouble, most of its weapons are MADE in Ukraine >>>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKi8D5R2Wg

2. Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped its >>>>production. The main reason for this is a lack of component parts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FObJ6haXIAM-lFV?format=jpg&name=small

[...]

Yikes. Back to the 19th century.

I wonder about tractors and trucks and other civilian stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPMtmuuVNw

+1

Also see:

Russia's Economy in Freefall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPprkiMQCg

Russian oil will stop soon. See "Russian Refineries' Reduced
Runs Wreck, Oil & Gas",
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbOHSrQL9o

Peter Zeihan: Putin's Vanishing Oil - Peter Zeihan Russia Ukraine War
Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27cjlFSFCE

No more electronics, no more tractors, trucks, civilian stuff. No more
cellphones, avionics, missiles, tanks, nukes.

War on bicycles with bows and arrows.

RUSSIA - SABOTAGE of Global Economy. 10 Reasons Why WAR Will Cause a
GLOBAL RECESSION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4OoLtW7wyE

Bad News. We are also screwed.

We may be inconvenienced, but millions will starve in poor countries.

Russia has a history of monsters named Vlad.



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On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 12:24:35 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 03:17:33 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<palli...@gmail.com> wrote:

Mike Monett wrote:
=================

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has
caused.

Also see:

Russia's Economy in Freefall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPprkiMQCg

Russian oil will stop soon. See "Russian Refineries' Reduced Runs Wreck, Oil & Gas",
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbOHSrQL9o

Peter Zeihan: Putin's Vanishing Oil - Peter Zeihan Russia Ukraine War
Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27cjlFSFCE

No more electronics, no more tractors, trucks, civilian stuff. No more cellphones, avionics, missiles, tanks, nukes.

War on bicycles with bows and arrows.

<snip>

Not much. The Russians are still behaving like the Russians did 800 years ago.

Getting slaughtered by the Mongols?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Kievan_Rus%27

There is some peculiar isolation of Russia from civilization.

The is some peculiar isolation between John Larkin's historical ideas and actual history.

Russia is big, and quite a long way from anywhere else.

The current exodus of the minority rational people is not making things any better.

I wonder which rational minority John Larkin thinks he is talking about. Russia isn't very well off, so the well educated can get more money in other countries. India and China have much the same kind of problem.

The US has a different kind of problem - its employers can always offer attractive employees loads of money, but it isn't a great place to bring up kids.

--
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On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 12:26:43 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 11:05:24 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spa...@not.com wrote: >Mike Monett <spa...@not.com> wrote:

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 00:55:24 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spa...@not.com> wrote:

<snip>

Bad News. We are also screwed.

We may be inconvenienced, but millions will starve in poor countries.

They frequently do.

Russia has a history of monsters named Vlad.

I wonder which one's he had in mind. Vlad Dracula is the classic, but he was Romanian.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler

Vladimir Lenin is famous, but he wasn't actually a monster, unlike Stalin who succeeded him.

--
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On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 1:45:32 AM UTC-7, Mike Monett wrote:

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 00:55:24 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spa...@not.com> wrote:

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has >>caused.

1. Russia is in trouble, most of its weapons are MADE in Ukraine >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKi8D5R2Wg

2. Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped its >>production. The main reason for this is a lack of component parts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FObJ6haXIAM-lFV?format=jpg&name=small

[...]

Yikes. Back to the 19th century.

I wonder about tractors and trucks and other civilian stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPMtmuuVNw

+1

Also see:

Russia's Economy in Freefall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPprkiMQCg

Russian oil will stop soon. See "Russian Refineries' Reduced
Runs Wreck, Oil & Gas",
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbOHSrQL9o

Peter Zeihan: Putin's Vanishing Oil - Peter Zeihan Russia Ukraine War
Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27cjlFSFCE

No more electronics, no more tractors, trucks, civilian stuff. No more cellphones, avionics, missiles, tanks, nukes.

War on bicycles with bows and arrows.

No really, Russia has plenty of oil and gas. It doesn't take much electronics to build simple combustion engine. It might be very inefficient, but they don't really care.

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On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 08:50:21 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
<edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 1:45:32 AM UTC-7, Mike Monett wrote:

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 00:55:24 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spa...@not.com>
wrote:

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has
caused.

1. Russia is in trouble, most of its weapons are MADE in Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKi8D5R2Wg

2. Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped its
production. The main reason for this is a lack of component parts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FObJ6haXIAM-lFV?format=jpg&name=small

[...]

Yikes. Back to the 19th century.

I wonder about tractors and trucks and other civilian stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPMtmuuVNw

+1

Also see:

Russia's Economy in Freefall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPprkiMQCg

Russian oil will stop soon. See "Russian Refineries' Reduced
Runs Wreck, Oil & Gas",
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbOHSrQL9o

Peter Zeihan: Putin's Vanishing Oil - Peter Zeihan Russia Ukraine War
Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27cjlFSFCE

No more electronics, no more tractors, trucks, civilian stuff. No more
cellphones, avionics, missiles, tanks, nukes.

War on bicycles with bows and arrows.

No really, Russia has plenty of oil and gas. It doesn't take much electronics to build simple combustion engine. It might be very inefficient, but they don't really care.

Russia has a GDP per person about 1/6 that of the US and western
europe. That ratio may well increase.

Somebody doesn't care.



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On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 2:04:03 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 08:50:21 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 1:45:32 AM UTC-7, Mike Monett wrote: jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 00:55:24 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spa...@not.com> wrote:

<snip>

Russia has a GDP per person about 1/6 that of the US and western Europe. That ratio may well increase.

Somebody doesn't care.

The problem with Russia is exactly the same as the problem with the US. The people that own the country aren't interested in the GDP per person, they are interested in the return on the property they own.

Ownership is more widely spread in the USA than it is in Putin's Russia, so the US has a much higher GDP, but rising income inequality in the US has cut into productivity per worker. The lack of genuinely universal education and health care isn't helping.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:fc82dddb-2076-42ac-8fbe-c839bae9a6dan@googlegroups.com:

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 3:21:14 PM UTC+10, John Dope wrote:

Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 1:08:57 PM UTC+10, John Dope wrote:

Mike Monett <spa...@not.com> wrote:

<snip>

Anybody who uses Ukraine's 100% state-controlled media as a
source about Russia is an IDIOT...

Says John Dope, who seems to believe everything that Russia
Today tells him.

Bill doesn't know a woman from a hole in the ground.

One has to wonder why John Dope thinks that, or why he feels the
need to mention it in this thread.

He does seem to find it hard to come up with new offensive
observations so he does make a habit of trying to recycle one's he
came up with earlier (all which I've snipped).

It looks as if he feels that his role is confined to that of being
an offensive irrelevance.

He is one of those dopes who would spit at his jailers or throw his
feces at them. Oddly, jail is where this putz should be.

But yeah, he would not know how to put out "new material" if his
life depended on it. AND the pussy constantly ads non-existent
groups to his fucked up follow ups line. It does not get more stupid
or more childish than John Dope.

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The group idiot, a.k.a. Always Wrong...

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John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t2dng2$ond$2@dont- email.me:

Anybody who uses Ukraine's 100% state-controlled media
as a source about Russia is an IDIOT...

You are an abject idiot. Russia controls their media outlets.
Ukraine does not have a "state controlled" aspect to their media
sources at all.

The information we see coming out of Ukraine comes from international
news agencies that are in country.

You could not be more retarded if you tried. You should run for
office in Georgia to replace MTG or in the district Cawthorn is about
to lose in. You'd fit right in, idiot.

Nobody would even notice a difference in the stupidity level.

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John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t2dng2$ond$2@dont- email.me:

Anybody who uses Ukraine's 100% state-controlled media
as a source about Russia is an IDIOT...

You are an abject idiot. Russia controls their media outlets.
Ukraine does not have a "state controlled" aspect to their media
sources at all.

The information we see coming out of Ukraine comes from international
news agencies that are in country.

You could not be more retarded if you tried. You should run for
office in Georgia to replace MTG or in the district Cawthorn is about
to lose in. You'd fit right in, idiot.

Nobody would even notice a difference in the stupidity level.

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Tue, 5 Apr 2022 21:45:06 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t2id92$686$2@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to
USENET has been 53.2% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults"
to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

fzbrubSJK7RY

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Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:e2297b3e-3506-42f5-b6f8-e804556f5edan@googlegroups.com:

On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 1:45:32 AM UTC-7, Mike Monett wrote:

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 00:55:24 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett
<spa...@not.com> wrote:

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one
man has caused.

1. Russia is in trouble, most of its weapons are MADE in
Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKi8D5R2Wg

2. Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped
its production. The main reason for this is a lack of component
parts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FObJ6haXIAM-lFV?format=jpg&name=smal
l

[...]

Yikes. Back to the 19th century.

I wonder about tractors and trucks and other civilian stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwPMtmuuVNw

+1

Also see:

Russia's Economy in Freefall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPprkiMQCg

Russian oil will stop soon. See "Russian Refineries' Reduced
Runs Wreck, Oil & Gas",
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbOHSrQL9o

Peter Zeihan: Putin's Vanishing Oil - Peter Zeihan Russia Ukraine
War Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27cjlFSFCE

No more electronics, no more tractors, trucks, civilian stuff. No
more cellphones, avionics, missiles, tanks, nukes.

War on bicycles with bows and arrows.

No really, Russia has plenty of oil and gas. It doesn't take much electronics to build simple combustion engine. It might be very
inefficient, but they don't really care.

Every post you make here is absolutely stupid. Stay out of it,
stick to electronics or are you a know nothing dumbass in that too?

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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in news:7h5m4hh8v9v911rme1uatl1otdv8ni2a6r@4ax.com:

Russia has a GDP per person about 1/6 that of the US and western
europe. That ratio may well increase.

Somebody doesn't care.

Sounds like Mexico.

Sony wanted to pay their Mexico employees good wages, but the Mexican government puts limits on pay there. It is about the most lame
behavior I have ever seen. Oh wait... Putin is that.

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We appreciate your service, Eddie.

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On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 22:53:54 -0000 (UTC), DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in >news:7h5m4hh8v9v911rme1uatl1otdv8ni2a6r@4ax.com:

Russia has a GDP per person about 1/6 that of the US and western
europe. That ratio may well increase.

Somebody doesn't care.

Sounds like Mexico.

Russia's per capita GDP is just a bit above Mexico's.

When I was in Russia, the big mystery to me was, why do these people
treat themselves this badly? And why do they treat us, evil American capitalists, like royalty?

Russia could be another peaceful, prosperous, boring european country.
They don't need a buffer zone.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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John Larkin wrote:

==================

When I was in Russia, the big mystery to me was, why do these people
treat themselves this badly? And why do they treat us, evil American capitalists, like royalty?

Russia could be another peaceful, prosperous, boring european country.
They don't need a buffer zone.

** Have you read the George Orwell's book "1984" ??
It's all about maintaining " mind control " of the population.



..... Phil

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On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 11:05:21 AM UTC+10, palli...@gmail.com wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

When I was in Russia, the big mystery to me was, why do these people
treat themselves this badly? And why do they treat us, evil American capitalists, like royalty?

Russia could be another peaceful, prosperous, boring european country.
They don't need a buffer zone.

** Have you read the George Orwell's book "1984" ??

It's all about maintaining " mind control " of the population.

Not exactly. It was anti-communist political satire.

It comes from much the same perceptions of Stalin's Soviet Russia as Arthur Koestler's

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darkness_at_Noon

It's not any kind of practical treatise on mind-control.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels

was a more enthusiastic practitioner of that particular skill. Putin does seem to be in the same business.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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Kill Krazy IEEE Bill
===============

John Larkin wrote:

When I was in Russia, the big mystery to me was, why do these people treat themselves this badly? And why do they treat us, evil American capitalists, like royalty?

Russia could be another peaceful, prosperous, boring european country. They don't need a buffer zone.

** Have you read the George Orwell's book "1984" ??

It's all about maintaining " mind control " of the population.

Not exactly. It was anti-communist political satire.

** An odd kind of satire that has neither wit nor humor - very un-funny.

" In 1984, Big Brother uses mind control, erases the past and strips it's citizens of individuality to remove freedom from the society."
The book reads like a horror story.

FOAD you demented, Google Monkey pile of shit.



..... Phil

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On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 1:34:15 PM UTC+10, palli...@gmail.com wrote:

Bill

John Larkin wrote:

<snip>

Russia could be another peaceful, prosperous, boring european country. They don't need a buffer zone.

** Have you read the George Orwell's book "1984" ??

It's all about maintaining " mind control " of the population.

Not exactly. It was anti-communist political satire.

** An odd kind of satire that has neither wit nor humor - very un-funny.

Satire isn't necessarily funny. It can exploit comic exaggeration, but the exaggeration doesn't have to be comic.

" In 1984, Big Brother uses mind control, erases the past and strips it's citizens of individuality to remove freedom from the society."
The book reads like a horror story.

It is a horror story, about the possible effects of a government that makes a habit of lying to it's citizens, and working on those citizens to make them more gullible.
Scott Morrison (the current prime minister of Australia) may yet try to ban it. Like Trump, he's probably not literate enough to realise that banning it might help him.

<snipped Phil's foolish abuse>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 18:05:17 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

==================

When I was in Russia, the big mystery to me was, why do these people
treat themselves this badly? And why do they treat us, evil American
capitalists, like royalty?

Russia could be another peaceful, prosperous, boring european country.
They don't need a buffer zone.

** Have you read the George Orwell's book "1984" ??
It's all about maintaining " mind control " of the population.

..... Phil

I guess Ukraine is such a threat because it's a modern working
democracy at their border. It's a threat to the oligarchy.

But the russian population is so isolated and tribal they don't seem
to mind being poor and sending their kids to die for Putin... and
killing Ukranians.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:30:02 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 18:05:17 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<palli...@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

==================

When I was in Russia, the big mystery to me was, why do these people
treat themselves this badly? And why do they treat us, evil American
capitalists, like royalty?

Russia could be another peaceful, prosperous, boring european country.
They don't need a buffer zone.

** Have you read the George Orwell's book "1984" ??
It's all about maintaining " mind control " of the population.

..... Phil

I guess Ukraine is such a threat because it's a modern working
democracy at their border. It's a threat to the oligarchy.

But the russian population is so isolated and tribal they don't seem
to mind being poor and sending their kids to die for Putin... and
killing Ukranians.

They were not told to die for anyone. They were told to receive flowers as liberator. They start killings because the Ukrainians are not fulfilling the promise.

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Mike Monett wrote:

No more electronics, no more tractors, trucks, civilian stuff. No more cellphones, avionics, missiles, tanks, nukes.

Don't worry about nukes, these will get all the required maintenance.

Best regards, Piotr

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On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 11:44:57 -0700 (PDT), Ed Lee
<edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:30:02 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 5 Apr 2022 18:05:17 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<palli...@gmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

==================

When I was in Russia, the big mystery to me was, why do these people
treat themselves this badly? And why do they treat us, evil American
capitalists, like royalty?

Russia could be another peaceful, prosperous, boring european country.
They don't need a buffer zone.

** Have you read the George Orwell's book "1984" ??
It's all about maintaining " mind control " of the population.



..... Phil

I guess Ukraine is such a threat because it's a modern working
democracy at their border. It's a threat to the oligarchy.

But the russian population is so isolated and tribal they don't seem
to mind being poor and sending their kids to die for Putin... and
killing Ukranians.

They were not told to die for anyone. They were told to receive flowers as liberator. They start killings because the Ukrainians are not fulfilling the promise.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/putin-wants-build-pro-russia-26646057

These people are insane.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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Piotr Wyderski <bombald@protonmail.com> wrote:

Mike Monett wrote:

No more electronics, no more tractors, trucks, civilian stuff. No more
cellphones, avionics, missiles, tanks, nukes.

Don't worry about nukes, these will get all the required maintenance.

Best regards, Piotr

Takes electronics and skilled people to keep them working. Electronics are
made in Ukraine. (Oops) Skilled people are leaving in droves.

Putin cannot push the button and make them go. It takes generals, and they
will not committ suicide. The launch process is probably similar to the US process. Two people must turn the launch switches simultaneously. See

Largest nuclear weapon ever deployed on display in Arizona https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E3sFfnAUQs

The generals know what will happen. They are not stupid. Putin threatening nukes is an empty threat.



--
MRM

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Mike Monett wrote:

Takes electronics and skilled people to keep them working. Electronics are made in Ukraine. (Oops) Skilled people are leaving in droves.

It is unlikely to be the typical consumer-grade electronics. It very
well might not be based on semiconductors anyway.

And they *do* have semiconductor plants. Maybe not as capable as TSMC,
but 5nm technology is not required for making an operational nuke
controller. FatMan exploded somehow without a single transistor.

Putin cannot push the button and make them go. It takes generals, and

they

will not committ suicide.

This might be correct, but it has nothing to do with electronics of any
sort. It's purely a policy compliance issue.

Best regards, Piotr

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Piotr Wyderski <bombald@protonmail.com> wrote:

Mike Monett wrote:

Takes electronics and skilled people to keep them working. Electronics
are made in Ukraine. (Oops) Skilled people are leaving in droves.

It is unlikely to be the typical consumer-grade electronics. It very
well might not be based on semiconductors anyway.

What a silly idea.

And they *do* have semiconductor plants. Maybe not as capable as TSMC,
but 5nm technology is not required for making an operational nuke
controller. FatMan exploded somehow without a single transistor.

It used the technology developed for proximity fuses.

A nuclear missile requires parts made in Ukraine. They are not going to
get them anymore.

Putin cannot push the button and make them go. It takes generals, and
they will not committ suicide.

This might be correct, but it has nothing to do with electronics of any
sort. It's purely a policy compliance issue.

Best regards, Piotr

Semiconductor plants take skilled people to run. They are leaving in
droves.



--
MRM

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Mike Monett wrote:

What a silly idea.

How many Soviet warheads did you disassemble to be so sure?

A nuclear missile requires parts made in Ukraine.

How can you know that? Even if it is the case, there is nothing magical
about Ukraine. They will restore this capability domestically as a top priority, because it IS a top priority national security issue. Rest
assured.

They are not going to get them anymore.

There are at least two plants in the neo-Soviet Union capable of 90nm
wafer production, namely Micron and Angstrem. Plus countless physics
institutes with electron beam litography gear. This is more than
sufficient to maintain ~6000 warheads in operation.

Best regards, Piotr

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On Wed, 6 Apr 2022 23:17:09 +0200, Piotr Wyderski
<bombald@protonmail.com> wrote:

Mike Monett wrote:

Takes electronics and skilled people to keep them working. Electronics are >> made in Ukraine. (Oops) Skilled people are leaving in droves.

It is unlikely to be the typical consumer-grade electronics. It very
well might not be based on semiconductors anyway.

And they *do* have semiconductor plants. Maybe not as capable as TSMC,
but 5nm technology is not required for making an operational nuke
controller. FatMan exploded somehow without a single transistor.

Krytrons.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7vgkcixeh6yq8u5/AACFEouJ3zXhuV7INJZ5bZhVa?dl=0

--

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but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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Piotr Wyderski <bombald@protonmail.com> wrote:

Mike Monett wrote:

What a silly idea.

How many Soviet warheads did you disassemble to be so sure?

A nuclear missile requires parts made in Ukraine.

How can you know that? Even if it is the case, there is nothing magical
about Ukraine. They will restore this capability domestically as a top priority, because it IS a top priority national security issue. Rest
assured.

They are not going to get them anymore.

There are at least two plants in the neo-Soviet Union capable of 90nm
wafer production, namely Micron and Angstrem. Plus countless physics institutes with electron beam litography gear. This is more than
sufficient to maintain ~6000 warheads in operation.

Best regards, Piotr

The generals are not stupid. They know what will happen if they start a
nuclear war. They do not want to commit suicide.

You need qualified and skilled people to run semiconductor plants. They are leaving in droves. You need special materials to make chips. These are now under sanctions.

There is something magical about Ukraine. I posted this earlier:

1. Russia is in trouble, most of its weapons are MADE in Ukraine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKi8D5R2Wg

2. Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped its
production. The main reason for this is a lack of component parts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FObJ6haXIAM-lFV?format=jpg&name=small

3. Russia has no advanced semiconductor industry

Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has no advanced semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC entirely to make
its leading-edge chips,” says Orme.Mar 3, 2022

4. Taiwan’s semiconductor ban could spell catastrophe for Russia

Russia is dependent on Taiwan's semiconductors for everything from the manufacture of laptops to military equipment. The cutting off of this
supply may be disastrous for Russia.

Russia’s reliance on Taiwan for semiconductors

Russia is wholly dependent on TSMC for the high-end semiconductors required
for the manufacture of anything from laptops and smartphones to equipment
for the country’s military and security services.

5. Is Russia out of semiconductor options?

Samsung, Russia’s only real alternative to TSMC for high-end contract manufacturing services, now comes under South Korea's semiconductor export embargo on Russia. “Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has
no advanced semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC
entirely to make its leading-edge chips,” says Orme. TSMC, along with South Korea’s Samsung, has a monopoly on five-nanometre chips – the most
widespread small chip in circulation used by companies including Apple, Qualcomm and Huawei.

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/special-focus/ukraine-crisis/taiwan- semiconductor-ban-russia-catastrophe

6. Russia faces 'brain drain' as thousands flee abroad since start of war
with Ukraine - BBC News
- as many as 200,000 have left Russia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=635iLwWdsU4

7. Mass layoffs in Russia. Sanctions over the war affect the employment of ordinary Russians
- as many as 500,000 may be laid off starting in April https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVrxeldECXg

8. Russia's economy is collapsing.

Russia's Economy in Freefall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPprkiMQCg

9. There are many reputable web sites. Peter Zeihan, Speak The Truth, Joe
Blogs and numerous others. They all say the same thing. Russia is screwed.


--
MRM

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John Larkin wrote:

Krytrons.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7vgkcixeh6yq8u5/AACFEouJ3zXhuV7INJZ5bZhVa?dl=0

This is precisely what I had in mind, but wanted Mike to discover it
himself. :-)

Best regards, Piotr

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Mike Monett wrote:

[snip]

OK, OK, I get it. Russia is screwed because you say so. Moreover, a
number of other Internet experts concur. There is no semiconductor
industry and they exporting their e.g. semiconductor power modules is
Putin's propaganda. They are also known for always playing fair and
stealing western technology (or just parts) to support essential
national security efforts has never been considered, let alone
implemented. The GRU is a famous Russian ballet. And they were stupid
enough not to store vital replacement parts or even complete spare
control modules, because who would think these need any maintenance.

I believe we should stop the discussion here. You are right about one
thing, though: *consumer* electronics in Russia is screwed.

Best regards, Piotr

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Piotr Wyderski wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

Krytrons.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7vgkcixeh6yq8u5/AACFEouJ3zXhuV7INJZ5bZhVa?dl=0

This is precisely what I had in mind, but wanted Mike to discover it
himself. :-)

    Best regards, Piotr

I have half a dozen in my lab drawer, given to me by a departing IBM
colleague. Super beasty gizmos, plus they're not on the US Munitions
List anymore!

(I'm not giving them to the Russians even so.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

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Piotr Wyderski <bombald@protonmail.com> wrote in news:t2l012$2cc57$1@portraits.wsisiz.edu.pl:

And they *do* have semiconductor plants.

Hand doped stupid shit. Bwuahahahaha!

Maybe

Maybe? Bwuahahahahaa!

not as capable as
TSMC, but 5nm technology is not required for making an operational
nuke controller.

Like folks needed you to tell us what Russia's electronics
technology stands at.

FatMan exploded somehow without a single
transistor.

No shit, Sherlock, considering they did not even exist at the time.

I'd almost bet that none of Russia's nukes are vacuum tube driven.

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Mike Monett <spamme@not.com> wrote in news:XnsAE71B15224C6Aidtokenpost@ 144.76.35.252:

Semiconductor plants take skilled people to run. They are leaving in
droves.

And there were not many left to start with. That video I think
Larkin posted nails it on what is taking place in Russia.

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Piotr Wyderski <bombald@protonmail.com> wrote in news:t2l1bm$2cfcs$1 @portraits.wsisiz.edu.pl:

What a silly idea.

How many Soviet warheads did you disassemble to be so sure?

What makes you think that they would still be of the variety which
were driven by tubes?

Russia upgraded many pieces of gear when they finally got hold of semiconductors. And you think they would have kept the nukes as they
were?

There are no 60's era nukes anywhere in the world. They have all
been updated. The US regularly performs X-ray tests on their warheads
and replace the aging ones. You think Russia has not done the same?

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Piotr Wyderski <bombald@protonmail.com> wrote in news:t2l1bm$2cfcs$1@portraits.wsisiz.edu.pl:

There are at least two plants in the neo-Soviet Union capable of
90nm wafer production, namely Micron and Angstrem. Plus countless
physics institutes with electron beam litography gear. This is
more than sufficient to maintain ~6000 warheads in operation.

By they're own declarations they do not have that many. If they do,
they have been lying to the rest of the world for decades.

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On 4/5/2022 11:34 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

Kill Krazy IEEE Bill
===============

John Larkin wrote:

When I was in Russia, the big mystery to me was, why do these people
treat themselves this badly? And why do they treat us, evil American
capitalists, like royalty?

Russia could be another peaceful, prosperous, boring european country. >>>> They don't need a buffer zone.

** Have you read the George Orwell's book "1984" ??

It's all about maintaining " mind control " of the population.

Not exactly. It was anti-communist political satire.

** An odd kind of satire that has neither wit nor humor - very un-funny.

" In 1984, Big Brother uses mind control, erases the past and strips it's citizens of individuality to remove freedom from the society."
The book reads like a horror story.

FOAD you demented, Google Monkey pile of shit.

..... Phil

Isaac Asimov's quip about the novel "1984" was something like "There's
no need to actively destroy history. Nobody reads it, anyway."

Libraries in the US are often pretty much memory-holes with respect to
how often people go there to check out the books these days. And
Americans are sometimes surprised to learn "1984" isn't banned in China
and AFAIK never has been; it's been translated into a number of dialects
and is available in bookstores and libraries there.

But it's not a well-known novel in China and citizens don't seem to have
much interest in it, in the same way most Americans likely couldn't name
a single Chinese sci-fi/horror novelest who's big in China.

Guess you could say the "best" citizens learn to police themselves you
don't have to ban anything.

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On 4/4/2022 6:17 AM, Phil Allison wrote:

Mike Monett wrote:
=================

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has
caused.

Also see:

Russia's Economy in Freefall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNPprkiMQCg

Russian oil will stop soon. See "Russian Refineries' Reduced
Runs Wreck, Oil & Gas",
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akbOHSrQL9o

Peter Zeihan: Putin's Vanishing Oil - Peter Zeihan Russia Ukraine War
Update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G27cjlFSFCE

No more electronics, no more tractors, trucks, civilian stuff. No more
cellphones, avionics, missiles, tanks, nukes.

War on bicycles with bows and arrows.

** You made me think of something a loooong time ago.

Living in Sydney, Australia in the early 70s, the ONLY Russian made product I ever saw was a transistor radio:
This one, the Astrad Auriga:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZJPKu1_Mx8

Look like solid radio built like T-34 tank. Is good machina for good
Soviet youth listen to "Switched On Bach", form synthesizer band & make
Soviet disco musica for to crush decadent capitalist West.

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Piotr Wyderski <bombald@protonmail.com> wrote:

Mike Monett wrote:

[snip]

OK, OK, I get it. Russia is screwed because you say so. Moreover, a
number of other Internet experts concur. There is no semiconductor
industry and they exporting their e.g. semiconductor power modules is
Putin's propaganda. They are also known for always playing fair and
stealing western technology (or just parts) to support essential
national security efforts has never been considered, let alone
implemented. The GRU is a famous Russian ballet. And they were stupid
enough not to store vital replacement parts or even complete spare
control modules, because who would think these need any maintenance.

I believe we should stop the discussion here. You are right about one
thing, though: *consumer* electronics in Russia is screwed.

Best regards, Piotr

It was pleasant chatting with you. I hope your future is as bright as your delusions. Keep listening to the Russians. That should help.




--
MRM

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On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 2:26:21 PM UTC, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Piotr Wyderski wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

Krytrons.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7vgkcixeh6yq8u5/AACFEouJ3zXhuV7INJZ5bZhVa?dl=0

This is precisely what I had in mind, but wanted Mike to discover it himself. :-)

Best regards, Piotr

I have half a dozen in my lab drawer, given to me by a departing IBM colleague. Super beasty gizmos, plus they're not on the US Munitions
List anymore!

(I'm not giving them to the Russians even so.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

John, Phil,
Fascinating.
would these 1940s tech have any use today?
= RS

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On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 6:37:26 PM UTC, Rich S wrote:

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 2:26:21 PM UTC, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Piotr Wyderski wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

Krytrons.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7vgkcixeh6yq8u5/AACFEouJ3zXhuV7INJZ5bZhVa?dl=0

This is precisely what I had in mind, but wanted Mike to discover it himself. :-)

Best regards, Piotr

I have half a dozen in my lab drawer, given to me by a departing IBM colleague. Super beasty gizmos, plus they're not on the US Munitions
List anymore!

(I'm not giving them to the Russians even so.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

John, Phil,
Fascinating.
would these 1940s tech have any use today?
= RS

P.S. "Radioactive Element"
EG&G says "for disposal of Krytrons, return to EG&G"
now EG&G is part of URS, will they still take them?
Better add a priviso in your wills, gentlemen.
Who gets the krytrons? ;-)

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Rich S wrote:

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 6:37:26 PM UTC, Rich S wrote:

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 2:26:21 PM UTC, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Piotr Wyderski wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

Krytrons.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7vgkcixeh6yq8u5/AACFEouJ3zXhuV7INJZ5bZhVa?dl=0 >>>>

This is precisely what I had in mind, but wanted Mike to discover it
himself. :-)

Best regards, Piotr

I have half a dozen in my lab drawer, given to me by a departing IBM
colleague. Super beasty gizmos, plus they're not on the US Munitions
List anymore!

(I'm not giving them to the Russians even so.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

John, Phil,
Fascinating.
would these 1940s tech have any use today?
= RS

P.S. "Radioactive Element"
EG&G says "for disposal of Krytrons, return to EG&G"
now EG&G is part of URS, will they still take them?
Better add a priviso in your wills, gentlemen.
Who gets the krytrons? ;-)

You probably wouldn't design one in today, unless you needed the
combination of ridiculous power handling and very very low OFF-state capacitance. (I've been known to use transmitting tubes for
less-extreme versions of that.)

I don't know if they're still made.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

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On Friday, April 8, 2022 at 1:43:06 AM UTC+10, bitrex wrote:

On 4/5/2022 11:34 PM, Phil Allison wrote:

Kill Krazy IEEE Bill
===============

John Larkin wrote:

When I was in Russia, the big mystery to me was, why do these people >>>> treat themselves this badly? And why do they treat us, evil American >>>> capitalists, like royalty?

Russia could be another peaceful, prosperous, boring european country. >>>> They don't need a buffer zone.

** Have you read the George Orwell's book "1984" ??

It's all about maintaining " mind control " of the population.

Not exactly. It was anti-communist political satire.

** An odd kind of satire that has neither wit nor humor - very un-funny.

" In 1984, Big Brother uses mind control, erases the past and strips it's citizens of individuality to remove freedom from the society."
The book reads like a horror story.

Isaac Asimov's quip about the novel "1984" was something like "There's
no need to actively destroy history. Nobody reads it, anyway."

** That was long before Wiki existed.

Libraries in the US are often pretty much memory-holes with respect to
how often people go there to check out the books these days. And
Americans are sometimes surprised to learn "1984" isn't banned in China
and AFAIK never has been; it's been translated into a number of dialects
and is available in bookstores and libraries there.

** No need exists for Chinese to read 1984 - cos they are all living in it right now.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/why-1984-and-animal-farm-arent-banned-china/580156/


...... Phil

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On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 11:37:26 AM UTC-7, Rich S wrote:

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 2:26:21 PM UTC, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Piotr Wyderski wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

Krytrons.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7vgkcixeh6yq8u5/AACFEouJ3zXhuV7INJZ5bZhVa?dl=0

This is precisely what I had in mind, but wanted Mike to discover it himself. :-)

Best regards, Piotr

I have half a dozen in my lab drawer, given to me by a departing IBM colleague. Super beasty gizmos, plus they're not on the US Munitions
List anymore!

John, Phil,
Fascinating.
would these 1940s tech have any use today?

Yeah. For fast switching of current, accelerator folk use 'em to
load electron bunches into synchrotron rings. One engineer of my acquaintance ordered some, and got a visit from men wearing suits who asked questions.

It's not dissimilar to a lightning arrestor. Hard to get a solid-state equivalent.

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On 8/4/22 8:00 am, whit3rd wrote:

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 11:37:26 AM UTC-7, Rich S wrote:

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 2:26:21 PM UTC, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Piotr Wyderski wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

Krytrons.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7vgkcixeh6yq8u5/AACFEouJ3zXhuV7INJZ5bZhVa?dl=0 >>>>

This is precisely what I had in mind, but wanted Mike to discover it
himself. :-)

Best regards, Piotr

I have half a dozen in my lab drawer, given to me by a departing IBM
colleague. Super beasty gizmos, plus they're not on the US Munitions
List anymore!

John, Phil,
Fascinating.
would these 1940s tech have any use today?

Yeah. For fast switching of current, accelerator folk use 'em to
load electron bunches into synchrotron rings. One engineer of my acquaintance
ordered some, and got a visit from men wearing suits who asked questions.

It's not dissimilar to a lightning arrestor. Hard to get a solid-state equivalent.

It looks like the kind of thing that a competent lab glassware tech
could make pretty easily. Are there any exotic materials in them?

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On Fri, 8 Apr 2022 09:31:45 +1000, Clifford Heath <no.spam@please.net>
wrote:

On 8/4/22 8:00 am, whit3rd wrote:

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 11:37:26 AM UTC-7, Rich S wrote:

On Thursday, April 7, 2022 at 2:26:21 PM UTC, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Piotr Wyderski wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

Krytrons.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/7vgkcixeh6yq8u5/AACFEouJ3zXhuV7INJZ5bZhVa?dl=0

This is precisely what I had in mind, but wanted Mike to discover it >>>>> himself. :-)

Best regards, Piotr

I have half a dozen in my lab drawer, given to me by a departing IBM
colleague. Super beasty gizmos, plus they're not on the US Munitions
List anymore!

John, Phil,
Fascinating.
would these 1940s tech have any use today?

Yeah. For fast switching of current, accelerator folk use 'em to
load electron bunches into synchrotron rings. One engineer of my acquaintance
ordered some, and got a visit from men wearing suits who asked questions.

It's not dissimilar to a lightning arrestor. Hard to get a solid-state equivalent.

It looks like the kind of thing that a competent lab glassware tech
could make pretty easily. Are there any exotic materials in them?

A radioactive isotope of nickel. And some gas, hydrogen or krypton.



--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 10:27:54 PM UTC-7, Edward Hernandez wrote:

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4...@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1...@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Mon, 4 Apr 2022 05:27:41 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t2dvkd$4fj$3...@dont-email.me>).

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.
Further, John Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5...@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
(UTC):

Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
except insults to this group.

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Doe's post ratio to USENET has been 53.8% of its posts contributing "nothing except insults"
to USENET.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.
T0Y6K5sOBbX2

Hey Eddie, you are BORING, and I mean BORING! Try getting a life!!

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On Tuesday, April 12, 2022 at 2:22:39 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 10:27:54 PM UTC-7, Edward Hernandez wrote:

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4...@dont-email.me>:

<snip>

Hey Eddie, you are BORING, and I mean BORING! Try getting a life!!

Flyguy gets it wrong, as usual. John Doe is boring. Edward Hernandez just reminds how criminally dim. incompetent and tedious John Doe is.

Flyguy is even dimmer but doesn't waste quite as much bandwidth on his own lunatic obsessions. Neither of them has any business posting here.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 00:55:24 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
wrote:

Russia has screwed itself. It is amazing how much trouble one man has
caused.

1. Russia is in trouble, most of its weapons are MADE in Ukraine >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPKi8D5R2Wg

2. Russia's only tank manufacturer, Uralvagonzavod, has stopped its >production. The main reason for this is a lack of component parts.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FObJ6haXIAM-lFV?format=jpg&name=small

3. Russia has no advanced semiconductor industry

“Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has no advanced >semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC entirely to make
its leading-edge chips,” says Orme.Mar 3, 2022

4. Taiwan’s semiconductor ban could spell catastrophe for Russia

Russia is dependent on Taiwan's semiconductors for everything from the >manufacture of laptops to military equipment. The cutting off of this
supply may be disastrous for Russia.

Russia’s reliance on Taiwan for semiconductors

Russia is wholly dependent on TSMC for the high-end semiconductors required >for the manufacture of anything from laptops and smartphones to equipment
for the country’s military and security services.

5. Is Russia out of semiconductor options?

Samsung, Russia’s only real alternative to TSMC for high-end contract >manufacturing services, now comes under South Korea's semiconductor export >embargo on Russia. “Russia is cut off from modern semiconductors as it has
no advanced semiconductor industry of its own and has relied on TSMC
entirely to make its leading-edge chips,” says Orme. TSMC, along with South >Korea’s Samsung, has a monopoly on five-nanometre chips – the most
widespread small chip in circulation used by companies including Apple, >Qualcomm and Huawei.

https://www.investmentmonitor.ai/special-focus/ukraine-crisis/taiwan- >semiconductor-ban-russia-catastrophe

6. Russia faces 'brain drain' as thousands flee abroad since start of war >with Ukraine - BBC News
- as many as 200,000 have left Russia >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=635iLwWdsU4

7. Mass layoffs in Russia. Sanctions over the war affect the employment of >ordinary Russians
- as many as 500,000 may be laid off starting in April >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVrxeldECXg

Amazing if true:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-soldiers-revolting-as-they-get-stiffed-on-ukraine-payouts-according-to-intercepted-calls?via=rss&source=articles_fancylink

Soldiers get cranky if they are not fed and not paid.

We may have an inflection point in warfare: cheap weapons used by
smart people can take out expensive tanks, planes, helicopters, and
ships commanded by stodgy old farts.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 13:10:13 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

Amazing if true:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-soldiers-revolting-as-they-get-stiffed-on-ukraine-payouts-according-to-intercepted-calls?via=rss&source=articles_fancylink

Soldiers get cranky if they are not fed and not paid.

We may have an inflection point in warfare: cheap weapons used by
smart people can take out expensive tanks, planes, helicopters, and
ships commanded by stodgy old farts.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/14/russia-moskva-cruiser-sunk-stormy-seas-defense-ministry



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye

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jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 13:10:13 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

Amazing if true:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-soldiers-revolting-as-they-get-stif >>fed-on-ukraine-payouts-according-to-intercepted-calls?via=rss&source=arti >>cles_fancylink

Soldiers get cranky if they are not fed and not paid.

We may have an inflection point in warfare: cheap weapons used by
smart people can take out expensive tanks, planes, helicopters, and
ships commanded by stodgy old farts.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/14/russia-moskva-cruiser-sunk- stormy-seas-defense-ministry

The missiles were designed and built by Ukraine. Quote:

"Neptune Anti-Ship Missile

The Neptune is based on the Soviet-era Zvezda Kh-35 anti-ship missile, but
it comes with improved electronics, a larger body, and a vastly better operational range.

The Neptune anti-ship missile was developed by the Luch design bureau. It
uses R-360 anti-ship cruise missile. First announced in 2013, the anti-ship missile completed its first operational tests three years later. In 2019,
the Ukrainian military completed the development of the Neptune and ordered
the first batches.

At over 5 meters, the Neptune carries a 320-pound High Explosive
Fragmentation (HE-FRAG) warhead that can sink vessels up to 5,000 tonnes,
for example, destroyers and frigates. The fact that it might have sunk the Moskva means that the Ukrainians either fired more than missiles or that it struck a magazine.

The Neptune anti-ship missile uses an internal navigation system to home on
its target and will fly 10-15 meters above the water on its way to the
target but will drop to 3-10 meters on its final approach so as to counter
any ship defenses.

The Neptune anti-ship missile has a reported range of almost 175 miles, and
it can be fired from land, air, and water. Before the Russian invasion, the Ukrainian military was planning on purchasing up to 90 launcher vehicles
with Neptune missiles, but the Russian attack has put that plan on hold.
Before the invasion, the Ukrainians had an estimated 20 launchers."

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/04/meet-the-neptune-ukraines-homemade- cruise-missile-that-struck-the-moskva/

Russia has moved their other warships further out to sea to avoid further attacks.

Russia has a lot of problems with boats. The carrier Admiral Kuznetsov had engine problems that required a sea-going tug to follow her, she lost two fighters in accidents and later suffered damage when a floating drydock
sank:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZPGw5kQPhA

The navy suffered a hilarious series of incompetent failures during a long voyage in 1904. The tale starts at 12:39

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Mdi_Fh9_Ag




--
MRM

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On 15/4/22 9:02 am, Mike Monett wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 13:10:13 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

Amazing if true:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-soldiers-revolting-as-they-get-stif >>> fed-on-ukraine-payouts-according-to-intercepted-calls?via=rss&source=arti >>> cles_fancylink

Soldiers get cranky if they are not fed and not paid.

We may have an inflection point in warfare: cheap weapons used by
smart people can take out expensive tanks, planes, helicopters, and
ships commanded by stodgy old farts.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/14/russia-moskva-cruiser-sunk-
stormy-seas-defense-ministry

The missiles were designed and built by Ukraine. Quote:

"Neptune Anti-Ship Missile

The Neptune is based on the Soviet-era Zvezda Kh-35 anti-ship missile, but
it comes with improved electronics, a larger body, and a vastly better operational range.

The Neptune anti-ship missile was developed by the Luch design bureau. It uses R-360 anti-ship cruise missile. First announced in 2013, the anti-ship missile completed its first operational tests three years later. In 2019,
the Ukrainian military completed the development of the Neptune and ordered the first batches.

At over 5 meters, the Neptune carries a 320-pound High Explosive Fragmentation (HE-FRAG) warhead that can sink vessels up to 5,000 tonnes,
for example, destroyers and frigates. The fact that it might have sunk the Moskva means that the Ukrainians either fired more than missiles or that it struck a magazine.

The Neptune anti-ship missile uses an internal navigation system to home on its target and will fly 10-15 meters above the water on its way to the
target but will drop to 3-10 meters on its final approach so as to counter any ship defenses.

The Neptune anti-ship missile has a reported range of almost 175 miles, and it can be fired from land, air, and water. Before the Russian invasion, the Ukrainian military was planning on purchasing up to 90 launcher vehicles
with Neptune missiles, but the Russian attack has put that plan on hold. Before the invasion, the Ukrainians had an estimated 20 launchers."

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/04/meet-the-neptune-ukraines-homemade- cruise-missile-that-struck-the-moskva/

Russia has moved their other warships further out to sea to avoid further attacks.

The ship defense system consists of radar that can reportedly
automatically track and engage five incoming missiles at once, with six
30mm Gatling guns at 4000rounds/minute at 5000m range.

One report says the Ukrainians launched a volley of eight Neptunes at
once, another that two of them struck the Moscva. And that there was a Bayraktar running a diversion flight.

"Sank while being towed in a storm" - except the weather data shows
there was no storm.

CH

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 10:11:11 +1000, Clifford Heath
<no.spam@please.net> wrote:

On 15/4/22 9:02 am, Mike Monett wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Thu, 14 Apr 2022 13:10:13 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

Amazing if true:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-soldiers-revolting-as-they-get-stif >>>> fed-on-ukraine-payouts-according-to-intercepted-calls?via=rss&source=arti >>>> cles_fancylink

Soldiers get cranky if they are not fed and not paid.

We may have an inflection point in warfare: cheap weapons used by
smart people can take out expensive tanks, planes, helicopters, and
ships commanded by stodgy old farts.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/14/russia-moskva-cruiser-sunk- >>> stormy-seas-defense-ministry

The missiles were designed and built by Ukraine. Quote:

"Neptune Anti-Ship Missile

The Neptune is based on the Soviet-era Zvezda Kh-35 anti-ship missile, but >> it comes with improved electronics, a larger body, and a vastly better
operational range.

The Neptune anti-ship missile was developed by the Luch design bureau. It
uses R-360 anti-ship cruise missile. First announced in 2013, the anti-ship >> missile completed its first operational tests three years later. In 2019,
the Ukrainian military completed the development of the Neptune and ordered >> the first batches.

At over 5 meters, the Neptune carries a 320-pound High Explosive
Fragmentation (HE-FRAG) warhead that can sink vessels up to 5,000 tonnes,
for example, destroyers and frigates. The fact that it might have sunk the >> Moskva means that the Ukrainians either fired more than missiles or that it >> struck a magazine.

The Neptune anti-ship missile uses an internal navigation system to home on >> its target and will fly 10-15 meters above the water on its way to the
target but will drop to 3-10 meters on its final approach so as to counter >> any ship defenses.

The Neptune anti-ship missile has a reported range of almost 175 miles, and >> it can be fired from land, air, and water. Before the Russian invasion, the >> Ukrainian military was planning on purchasing up to 90 launcher vehicles
with Neptune missiles, but the Russian attack has put that plan on hold.
Before the invasion, the Ukrainians had an estimated 20 launchers."

https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/04/meet-the-neptune-ukraines-homemade-
cruise-missile-that-struck-the-moskva/

Russia has moved their other warships further out to sea to avoid further
attacks.

The ship defense system consists of radar that can reportedly
automatically track and engage five incoming missiles at once, with six
30mm Gatling guns at 4000rounds/minute at 5000m range.

One report says the Ukrainians launched a volley of eight Neptunes at
once, another that two of them struck the Moscva. And that there was a >Bayraktar running a diversion flight.

"Sank while being towed in a storm" - except the weather data shows
there was no storm.

CH

The Russian military is pathetic. There are reports that most of the
money spent to amp up for the Ukranian campaign was embezzled.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:
[...]

The Russian military is pathetic. There are reports that most of the
money spent to amp up for the Ukranian campaign was embezzled.

I'd be careful if I were you. This sort of talk is how you get
prepped for war, making you believe the enemy is pathetic, weak
and disorganized. It's never true enough to win. You'll find out
when your sons and daughters fail to come back.

Jeroen Belleman

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Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in news:t3cajv$n33$1 @gioia.aioe.org:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:
[...]

The Russian military is pathetic. There are reports that most of the
money spent to amp up for the Ukranian campaign was embezzled.

I'd be careful if I were you. This sort of talk is how you get
prepped for war, making you believe the enemy is pathetic, weak
and disorganized. It's never true enough to win. You'll find out
when your sons and daughters fail to come back.

Jeroen Belleman

Moskva cruiser currently testing new submarine cruise capabilities.

ALL of the "Atlant" class ships sport the same weakness. The were
made by Russians.

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Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:
[...]

The Russian military is pathetic. There are reports that most of the
money spent to amp up for the Ukranian campaign was embezzled.

I'd be careful if I were you. This sort of talk is how you get
prepped for war, making you believe the enemy is pathetic, weak
and disorganized. It's never true enough to win. You'll find out
when your sons and daughters fail to come back.

Jeroen Belleman

In this case, it's true. One commander committed suicide when he discovered 9 out of 10 reserve tanks were stripped of everything saleable. All the
oligarchs became fabulously rich by embezzling everything they could get
their hands on.

The Russians are pathetic, weak and disorganized. That is why they are
losing. They are going to get much weaker when the sanctions kick in.


--
MRM

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote in news:t3cajv$n33$1 @gioia.aioe.org:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:
[...]

The Russian military is pathetic. There are reports that most of the
money spent to amp up for the Ukranian campaign was embezzled.

I'd be careful if I were you. This sort of talk is how you get
prepped for war, making you believe the enemy is pathetic, weak
and disorganized. It's never true enough to win. You'll find out
when your sons and daughters fail to come back.

There's a difference between belittling the enemy and forming an
accurate estimation of his (mostly low) capabilities. The one is
stupid, the other is smart. "Base your plans on the enemy's
capabilities, not his intentions."

Moskva cruiser currently testing new submarine cruise capabilities.

Note to self: don't name warships after your country or your capital
city. (Or your head of state, ideally, though the British got pretty
close to doing that with the King George-V-class battleships during the
reign of King George VI).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 18:57:07 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
wrote:

Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:
[...]

The Russian military is pathetic. There are reports that most of the
money spent to amp up for the Ukranian campaign was embezzled.

I'd be careful if I were you. This sort of talk is how you get
prepped for war, making you believe the enemy is pathetic, weak
and disorganized. It's never true enough to win. You'll find out
when your sons and daughters fail to come back.

Jeroen Belleman

In this case, it's true. One commander committed suicide when he discovered 9 >out of 10 reserve tanks were stripped of everything saleable. All the >oligarchs became fabulously rich by embezzling everything they could get >their hands on.

The Russians are pathetic, weak and disorganized. That is why they are >losing. They are going to get much weaker when the sanctions kick in.

I just heard a report on NPR that says Putin is worth $200 billion.

A lot of his buddies are not going to be happy about their $300
million yachts being seized.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 18:57:07 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
wrote:

[...]

In this case, it's true. One commander committed suicide when he
discovered 9 out of 10 reserve tanks were stripped of everything
saleable. All the oligarchs became fabulously rich by embezzling
everything they could get their hands on.

The Russians are pathetic, weak and disorganized. That is why they are >>losing. They are going to get much weaker when the sanctions kick in.

I just heard a report on NPR that says Putin is worth $200 billion.

A lot of his buddies are not going to be happy about their $300
million yachts being seized.

A lot of russian currency reserves are seized and not available to russia.

New estimates are a million or more of highly educated and skilled russians have fled. These people are needed to keep the country running. Use your imagination to see what will happen as the fabric of a country disappears.



--
MRM

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On Sat, 16 Apr 2022 17:12:23 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Apr 2022 18:57:07 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
wrote:

[...]

In this case, it's true. One commander committed suicide when he >>>discovered 9 out of 10 reserve tanks were stripped of everything >>>saleable. All the oligarchs became fabulously rich by embezzling >>>everything they could get their hands on.

The Russians are pathetic, weak and disorganized. That is why they are >>>losing. They are going to get much weaker when the sanctions kick in.

I just heard a report on NPR that says Putin is worth $200 billion.

A lot of his buddies are not going to be happy about their $300
million yachts being seized.

A lot of russian currency reserves are seized and not available to russia.

New estimates are a million or more of highly educated and skilled russians >have fled. These people are needed to keep the country running. Use your >imagination to see what will happen as the fabric of a country disappears.

The fraction of russian nationalist morons will increase.

When I was there, I worked for Rodos, a jewish guy with big desk in a
fancy office and a big staff. He wanted to meet the "american
capitalist" (said with obvious humor) who was working on his project.
I was told that the country was run by smart jews who could never rise
above mid-level in the power structure.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 10:39:18 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:
[...]

The Russian military is pathetic. There are reports that most of the
money spent to amp up for the Ukranian campaign was embezzled.

I'd be careful if I were you. This sort of talk is how you get
prepped for war, making you believe the enemy is pathetic, weak
and disorganized. It's never true enough to win. You'll find out
when your sons and daughters fail to come back.

Jeroen Belleman

I think John made an accurate assessment, which is what you want in order to AVOID war. Everybody thought that the Russkies would take Ukraine in a week (I did), but it turned out that they got their asses kicked. They are inept and mostly target
civilians, a sign that they are not being led by a professional officer corps. Their tanks are running out fuel (?!) and their troops food. This is inexcusable for a professional army. Russian soldiers are conscripts barely out of basic training. Now,
Russia has lost TWO flagship guided missile cruisers to Ukrainian defenses - not the game plan that Putin envisioned.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/04/russian-soldiers-ukraine-anger-duped-into-war

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On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 10:00:18 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 10:39:18 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:
[...]

The Russian military is pathetic. There are reports that most of the money spent to amp up for the Ukranian campaign was embezzled.

I'd be careful if I were you. This sort of talk is how you get
prepped for war, making you believe the enemy is pathetic, weak
and disorganized. It's never true enough to win. You'll find out
when your sons and daughters fail to come back.

I think John made an accurate assessment, which is what you want in order to AVOID war.

That would be a first. More to the point, John Larkin isn't well placed to make any kind of assessment, any more than Flyguy is. That what military intelligence is for, and US military intelligence shipped a lot of anti-tank and antiaircraft missiles to
the Ukraine when Russia first started massing troops around the borders of the Ukraine.

Everybody thought that the Russkies would take Ukraine in a week (I did),

Not that Flyguy can be bothered to cite a link to anything published at the time that might have had some credibility. Flyguy's own opinion doesn't.

but it turned out that they got their asses kicked.

They clearly haven't done as well as they expected, but they seem to have captured a substantial chunk of Mariupol.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-16/the-battle-of-mariupol-russia-ukraine-invasion/100992682

If the Ukrainians can kick them out again, you might be able to talk of ass-kicking.

They are inept and mostly target civilians, a sign that they are not being led by a professional officer corps.

Not exactly. Even the most professional officer corps has to concentrate on the targets it's high command tells them to go after.

Their tanks are running out fuel (?!) and their troops food. This is inexcusable for a professional army.

It shouldn't happen, but if the battle plan depended on them capturing more territory than turned out to be attainable, the logistics have to be rejigged, which takes time and effort,

Russian soldiers are conscripts barely out of basic training. Now, Russia has lost TWO flagship guided missile cruisers to Ukrainian defenses - not the game plan that Putin envisioned.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/04/russian-soldiers-ukraine-anger-duped-into-war

No battle plan survives contact with the enemy.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2021/05/04/no-plan/

The Russians seem to have been just as unrealistic as the Americans were in Irak, but while the Americans had a useful military advantage in Irak, the Russians had less of an edge (if any) over the Ukrainian military. Of course there are lot more
Russians, even if quite a few of them are now dead or injured.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 10:19:29 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 10:00:18 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 10:39:18 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:
[...]

The Russian military is pathetic. There are reports that most of the money spent to amp up for the Ukranian campaign was embezzled.

I'd be careful if I were you. This sort of talk is how you get
prepped for war, making you believe the enemy is pathetic, weak
and disorganized. It's never true enough to win. You'll find out
when your sons and daughters fail to come back.

I think John made an accurate assessment, which is what you want in order to AVOID war.

That would be a first. More to the point, John Larkin isn't well placed to make any kind of assessment, any more than Flyguy is. That what military intelligence is for, and US military intelligence shipped a lot of anti-tank and antiaircraft missiles

to the Ukraine when Russia first started massing troops around the borders of the Ukraine.

Everybody thought that the Russkies would take Ukraine in a week (I did),

Not that Flyguy can be bothered to cite a link to anything published at the time that might have had some credibility. Flyguy's own opinion doesn't.

but it turned out that they got their asses kicked.

They clearly haven't done as well as they expected, but they seem to have captured a substantial chunk of Mariupol.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-16/the-battle-of-mariupol-russia-ukraine-invasion/100992682

If the Ukrainians can kick them out again, you might be able to talk of ass-kicking.

They are inept and mostly target civilians, a sign that they are not being led by a professional officer corps.

Not exactly. Even the most professional officer corps has to concentrate on the targets it's high command tells them to go after.

Their tanks are running out fuel (?!) and their troops food. This is inexcusable for a professional army.

It shouldn't happen, but if the battle plan depended on them capturing more territory than turned out to be attainable, the logistics have to be rejigged, which takes time and effort,

Russian soldiers are conscripts barely out of basic training. Now, Russia has lost TWO flagship guided missile cruisers to Ukrainian defenses - not the game plan that Putin envisioned.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/04/russian-soldiers-ukraine-anger-duped-into-war

No battle plan survives contact with the enemy.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2021/05/04/no-plan/

The Russians seem to have been just as unrealistic as the Americans were in Irak, but while the Americans had a useful military advantage in Irak, the Russians had less of an edge (if any) over the Ukrainian military. Of course there are lot more

Russians, even if quite a few of them are now dead or injured.

--
SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

Hey SNIPPERMAN, everybody thought the Russians would take Ukraine quickly - YOU provide a link to anyone who thought otherwise. And you don't count - you can't even spell Iraq.

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On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 4:28:41 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 10:19:29 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 10:00:18 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 10:39:18 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:
[...]

The Russian military is pathetic. There are reports that most of the money spent to amp up for the Ukranian campaign was embezzled.

I'd be careful if I were you. This sort of talk is how you get
prepped for war, making you believe the enemy is pathetic, weak
and disorganized. It's never true enough to win. You'll find out
when your sons and daughters fail to come back.

I think John made an accurate assessment, which is what you want in order to AVOID war.

That would be a first. More to the point, John Larkin isn't well placed to make any kind of assessment, any more than Flyguy is. That what military intelligence is for, and US military intelligence shipped a lot of anti-tank and antiaircraft missiles

to the Ukraine when Russia first started massing troops around the borders of the Ukraine.

Everybody thought that the Russkies would take Ukraine in a week (I did),

Not that Flyguy can be bothered to cite a link to anything published at the time that might have had some credibility. Flyguy's own opinion doesn't.

but it turned out that they got their asses kicked.

They clearly haven't done as well as they expected, but they seem to have captured a substantial chunk of Mariupol.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-16/the-battle-of-mariupol-russia-ukraine-invasion/100992682

If the Ukrainians can kick them out again, you might be able to talk of ass-kicking.

They are inept and mostly target civilians, a sign that they are not being led by a professional officer corps.

Not exactly. Even the most professional officer corps has to concentrate on the targets it's high command tells them to go after.

Their tanks are running out fuel (?!) and their troops food. This is inexcusable for a professional army.

It shouldn't happen, but if the battle plan depended on them capturing more territory than turned out to be attainable, the logistics have to be rejigged, which takes time and effort,

Russian soldiers are conscripts barely out of basic training. Now, Russia has lost TWO flagship guided missile cruisers to Ukrainian defenses - not the game plan that Putin envisioned.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/04/russian-soldiers-ukraine-anger-duped-into-war.

No battle plan survives contact with the enemy.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2021/05/04/no-plan/

The Russians seem to have been just as unrealistic as the Americans were in Irak, but while the Americans had a useful military advantage in Irak, the Russians had less of an edge (if any) over the Ukrainian military. Of course there are lot more

Russians, even if quite a few of them are now dead or injured.

Hey Sloman, everybody thought the Russians would take Ukraine quickly - YOU provide a link to anyone who thought otherwise.

You made the claim. You find the evidence to support it.

https://www.vox.com/22954833/russia-ukraine-invasion-strategy-putin-kyiv

does suggest that the Russians thought that it would be a cake walk.

So - it seems - did Donald Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/28/invasion-looking-less-smart-daily-republicans-wont-criticize-trumps-putin-praise/

You seem to be silly enough to take Donald Trump seriously. Maybe this was what you had in whatever it is you use instead of your own demented mind.

And you don't count - you can't even spell Iraq.

It's a known - if dated - English language spelling of the country's name. It is the spelling used in the Netherlands where I was living when the US invasion of the country took place. Your ignorance of the fact that it is known variation is just one
more bit of evidence that you are an ignorant twit.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in news:vesl5ht1et8366btu7o65ohkje42qri1fs@4ax.com:

I just heard a report on NPR that says Putin is worth $200 billion.

A lot of his buddies are not going to be happy about their $300
million yachts being seized.

Putin is the biggest modern day thief in the world. ALL of his
billions were from him buying a property at artificially devalued
prives and then jacking them the next day to double that valuation or
more. A trick he learned from Trump.

In any free nation in the world, he would go to prison for it.

Afew of the Trumps just might, and they damn well should too.
Kushner as well, for the same crap.

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On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:02:23 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 4:28:41 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 10:19:29 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 10:00:18 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 10:39:18 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:
[...]

The Russian military is pathetic. There are reports that most of the
money spent to amp up for the Ukranian campaign was embezzled.

I'd be careful if I were you. This sort of talk is how you get prepped for war, making you believe the enemy is pathetic, weak
and disorganized. It's never true enough to win. You'll find out when your sons and daughters fail to come back.

I think John made an accurate assessment, which is what you want in order to AVOID war.

That would be a first. More to the point, John Larkin isn't well placed to make any kind of assessment, any more than Flyguy is. That what military intelligence is for, and US military intelligence shipped a lot of anti-tank and antiaircraft

missiles to the Ukraine when Russia first started massing troops around the borders of the Ukraine.

Everybody thought that the Russkies would take Ukraine in a week (I did),

Not that Flyguy can be bothered to cite a link to anything published at the time that might have had some credibility. Flyguy's own opinion doesn't.

but it turned out that they got their asses kicked.

They clearly haven't done as well as they expected, but they seem to have captured a substantial chunk of Mariupol.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-16/the-battle-of-mariupol-russia-ukraine-invasion/100992682

If the Ukrainians can kick them out again, you might be able to talk of ass-kicking.

They are inept and mostly target civilians, a sign that they are not being led by a professional officer corps.

Not exactly. Even the most professional officer corps has to concentrate on the targets it's high command tells them to go after.

Their tanks are running out fuel (?!) and their troops food. This is inexcusable for a professional army.

It shouldn't happen, but if the battle plan depended on them capturing more territory than turned out to be attainable, the logistics have to be rejigged, which takes time and effort,

Russian soldiers are conscripts barely out of basic training. Now, Russia has lost TWO flagship guided missile cruisers to Ukrainian defenses - not the game plan that Putin envisioned.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/04/russian-soldiers-ukraine-anger-duped-into-war.

No battle plan survives contact with the enemy.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2021/05/04/no-plan/

The Russians seem to have been just as unrealistic as the Americans were in Irak, but while the Americans had a useful military advantage in Irak, the Russians had less of an edge (if any) over the Ukrainian military. Of course there are lot more

Russians, even if quite a few of them are now dead or injured.

Hey Sloman, everybody thought the Russians would take Ukraine quickly - YOU provide a link to anyone who thought otherwise.

You made the claim. You find the evidence to support it.

https://www.vox.com/22954833/russia-ukraine-invasion-strategy-putin-kyiv

does suggest that the Russians thought that it would be a cake walk.

So - it seems - did Donald Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/28/invasion-looking-less-smart-daily-republicans-wont-criticize-trumps-putin-praise/

You seem to be silly enough to take Donald Trump seriously. Maybe this was what you had in whatever it is you use instead of your own demented mind.

And you don't count - you can't even spell Iraq.

It's a known - if dated - English language spelling of the country's name. It is the spelling used in the Netherlands where I was living when the US invasion of the country took place. Your ignorance of the fact that it is known variation is just one

more bit of evidence that you are an ignorant twit.

--
SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

Hey SNIPPERMAN, that was common knowledge from every expert I listened to - you prove otherwise.

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On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 4:18:25 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:02:23 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 4:28:41 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 10:19:29 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 10:00:18 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 10:39:18 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:

<snip>

Hey Sloman, everybody thought the Russians would take Ukraine quickly - YOU provide a link to anyone who thought otherwise.

You made the claim. You find the evidence to support it.

https://www.vox.com/22954833/russia-ukraine-invasion-strategy-putin-kyiv

does suggest that the Russians thought that it would be a cake walk.

So - it seems - did Donald Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/28/invasion-looking-less-smart-daily-republicans-wont-criticize-trumps-putin-praise/

You seem to be silly enough to take Donald Trump seriously. Maybe this was what you had in whatever it is you use instead of your own demented mind.

<snip>

Hey Sloman, that was common knowledge from every expert I listened to - you prove otherwise.

That suggests that the only "expert" you listened to was Donald J. Trump. That makes sense, which is not something you can manage.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:14:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 4:18:25 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:02:23 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 4:28:41 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 10:19:29 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 10:00:18 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 10:39:18 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:

<snip>

Hey Sloman, everybody thought the Russians would take Ukraine quickly - YOU provide a link to anyone who thought otherwise.

You made the claim. You find the evidence to support it.

https://www.vox.com/22954833/russia-ukraine-invasion-strategy-putin-kyiv

does suggest that the Russians thought that it would be a cake walk.

So - it seems - did Donald Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/28/invasion-looking-less-smart-daily-republicans-wont-criticize-trumps-putin-praise/

You seem to be silly enough to take Donald Trump seriously. Maybe this was what you had in whatever it is you use instead of your own demented mind.

<snip>

Hey Sloman, that was common knowledge from every expert I listened to - you prove otherwise.

That suggests that the only "expert" you listened to was Donald J. Trump. That makes sense, which is not something you can manage.

--
SNIPPERMAN, Sydney

Hey SNIPPERMAN, who said ANYTHING about Trump EXCEPT YOU?

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On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 10:19:29 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 10:00:18 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 10:39:18 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:
[...]

The Russian military is pathetic. There are reports that most of the money spent to amp up for the Ukranian campaign was embezzled.

I'd be careful if I were you. This sort of talk is how you get
prepped for war, making you believe the enemy is pathetic, weak
and disorganized. It's never true enough to win. You'll find out
when your sons and daughters fail to come back.

I think John made an accurate assessment, which is what you want in order to AVOID war.

That would be a first. More to the point, John Larkin isn't well placed to make any kind of assessment, any more than Flyguy is. That what military intelligence is for, and US military intelligence shipped a lot of anti-tank and antiaircraft missiles

to the Ukraine when Russia first started massing troops around the borders of the Ukraine.

Everybody thought that the Russkies would take Ukraine in a week (I did),

Not that Flyguy can be bothered to cite a link to anything published at the time that might have had some credibility. Flyguy's own opinion doesn't.

but it turned out that they got their asses kicked.

They clearly haven't done as well as they expected, but they seem to have captured a substantial chunk of Mariupol.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-16/the-battle-of-mariupol-russia-ukraine-invasion/100992682

If the Ukrainians can kick them out again, you might be able to talk of ass-kicking.

They are inept and mostly target civilians, a sign that they are not being led by a professional officer corps.

Not exactly. Even the most professional officer corps has to concentrate on the targets it's high command tells them to go after.

Their tanks are running out fuel (?!) and their troops food. This is inexcusable for a professional army.

It shouldn't happen, but if the battle plan depended on them capturing more territory than turned out to be attainable, the logistics have to be rejigged, which takes time and effort,

NEWS FLASH: SNIPPERMAN AGREES WITH FLYGUY!!!!

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On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 4:07:07 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 8:14:31 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Monday, April 18, 2022 at 4:18:25 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 5:02:23 AM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 4:28:41 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 10:19:29 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 10:00:18 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 10:39:18 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:

<snip>

Hey Sloman, everybody thought the Russians would take Ukraine quickly - YOU provide a link to anyone who thought otherwise.

You made the claim. You find the evidence to support it.

https://www.vox.com/22954833/russia-ukraine-invasion-strategy-putin-kyiv

does suggest that the Russians thought that it would be a cake walk.

So - it seems - did Donald Trump

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/02/28/invasion-looking-less-smart-daily-republicans-wont-criticize-trumps-putin-praise/

You seem to be silly enough to take Donald Trump seriously. Maybe this was what you had in whatever it is you use instead of your own demented mind.

Hey Sloman, that was common knowledge from every expert I listened to - you prove otherwise.

That suggests that the only "expert" you listened to was Donald J. Trump. That makes sense, which is not something you can manage.

Hey Sloman who said ANYTHING about Trump EXCEPT YOU?

You may not realise that you are recycling Trump's demented opinions, but I can challenge you to prove otherwise, in the sure and certain knowledge that you can't.

This relies more on your total stupidity than any detailed analysis of where you must have got your silly ideas, but why waste time on the point?

-
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On Wednesday, April 20, 2022 at 4:11:09 PM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Saturday, April 16, 2022 at 10:19:29 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Sunday, April 17, 2022 at 10:00:18 AM UTC+10, Flyguy wrote:

On Friday, April 15, 2022 at 10:39:18 AM UTC-7, Jeroen Belleman wrote:

On 2022-04-15 19:03, John Larkin wrote:
[...]

The Russian military is pathetic. There are reports that most of the money spent to amp up for the Ukranian campaign was embezzled.

I'd be careful if I were you. This sort of talk is how you get
prepped for war, making you believe the enemy is pathetic, weak
and disorganized. It's never true enough to win. You'll find out
when your sons and daughters fail to come back.

I think John made an accurate assessment, which is what you want in order to AVOID war.

That would be a first. More to the point, John Larkin isn't well placed to make any kind of assessment, any more than Flyguy is. That what military intelligence is for, and US military intelligence shipped a lot of anti-tank and antiaircraft missiles

to the Ukraine when Russia first started massing troops around the borders of the Ukraine.

Everybody thought that the Russkies would take Ukraine in a week (I did), but it turned out that they got their asses kicked.

Not that Flyguy can be bothered to cite a link to anything published at the time that might have had some credibility. Flyguy's own opinion doesn't.

They clearly haven't done as well as they expected, but they seem to have captured a substantial chunk of Mariupol.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-04-16/the-battle-of-mariupol-russia-ukraine-invasion/100992682

If the Ukrainians can kick them out again, you might be able to talk of ass-kicking.

They are inept and mostly target civilians, a sign that they are not being led by a professional officer corps.

Not exactly. Even the most professional officer corps has to concentrate on the targets it's high command tells them to go after.

Their tanks are running out fuel (?!) and their troops food. This is inexcusable for a professional army.

It shouldn't happen, but if the battle plan depended on them capturing more territory than turned out to be attainable, the logistics have to be rejigged, which takes time and effort,

NEWS FLASH: Sloman AGREES WITH FLYGUY!!!!

Flyguy always thinks that anything that gets posted agrees with his demented ideas. His reading comprehension seems to be designed to keep him happy rather than to collect any actual information from the stuff he cast his eyes over.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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