• boozestorming

    From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 30 12:40:21 2022
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.


    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From Lasse Langwadt Christensen@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 30 13:41:54 2022
    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 21.40.32 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.

    https://xkcd.com/323/

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Wed Mar 30 16:36:19 2022
    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to bitrex on Wed Mar 30 14:44:23 2022
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too

    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level. Driving is more
    millisecond-range instinct and reaction than rational thought.

    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From Lasse Langwadt Christensen@21:1/5 to unless you really meant to on Wed Mar 30 15:11:25 2022
    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.

    unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off

    Driving is more
    millisecond-range instinct and reaction than rational thought.

    alcohol increase reaction time

    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    or you think you do, that is one of the effects of alcohol

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to langwadt@fonz.dk on Wed Mar 30 16:02:18 2022
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.

    unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off

    The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
    sub-0.1%.

    What would "per mil" mean?


    Driving is more
    millisecond-range instinct and reaction than rational thought.

    alcohol increase reaction time

    A lot sure does. Not all functions are monotonic.


    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    or you think you do, that is one of the effects of alcohol

    No, it's real, as verified by extensive experiment.

    Read the Drunk book.


    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From Rickster@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Wed Mar 30 16:30:16 2022
    On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 5:44:35 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level. Driving is more
    millisecond-range instinct and reaction than rational thought.

    Absolute BS. It's not like this hasn't been tested and measured ad infinitum.


    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    Yeah, I bet you paint better after taking LSD too!

    --

    Rick C.

    + Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    + Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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  • From Rickster@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Wed Mar 30 16:27:47 2022
    On Wednesday, March 30, 2022 at 5:44:35 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level. Driving is more
    millisecond-range instinct and reaction than rational thought.

    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    You mean Roman Coke, right? When I was a kid, I waited tables in a restaurant. I wasn't even old enough to bring the drinks to the table. I thought they were ordering Roman Cokes. No one ever realized I was not saying Rum and Coke, so they never
    corrected me.

    Like, "I want to rock and roll all night, and part of every day!" lol That was in a Dharma and Greg.

    --

    Rick C.

    - Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
    - Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Wed Mar 30 19:13:27 2022
    On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 10:02:30 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:
    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    <snip>

    alcohol increase reaction time
    A lot sure does. Not all functions are monotonic.

    This one is.

    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    or you think you do, that is one of the effects of alcohol

    No, it's real, as verified by extensive experiment.

    Read the Drunk book.

    Activities that depend on rapid reactions are helped by low doses of alcohol - you waste less time overthinking about what you are going to do.

    Rifle-shooting - as a competitive sport also bans alcohol. Rapid reaction time doesn't come into that, but the minimal tranquilising effect of a little ethanol does help. It also make you more dangerous to the other competitors, in the same way that
    even low doses of alcohol make you a more dangerous driver, as even though you are more likely to put the car into exactly the place you want to, it becomes more likely that you will want to put it into place that you shouldn't.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology. on Thu Mar 31 05:52:55 2022
    On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700) it happened John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in <68c94h97sr8kmt2brg4jsf3ra4smqge2tj@4ax.com>:


    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.

    Sales ads
    I have not used any alcohol apart from for cleaning stuff since 1974 or there about.
    You would not believe my experiences before that when sailing,,,
    I think some were reproduced in those 'Pirates of the Caribbean' movies.
    like me laying on the floor.
    In my school days.. day out sailing, director stepping over me, 'Oh its him again'
    Well I passed anyways,

    No alcohol does not help you thinking clearly.
    Not with driving either.

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Thu Mar 31 09:07:14 2022
    On 30/03/2022 22:44, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.

    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too

    The British guy who invented cats eyes for road marking certainly did -
    to help him get home after a session in a precarious rural pub.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Shaw

    These days we are much less tolerant of drunk driving.

    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level. Driving is more
    millisecond-range instinct and reaction than rational thought.

    It is true up to and only up to the first half pint for playing fast
    video games. It helps takesthe edge off muscle tremor and allows more
    accurate servo positioning. After that it is downhill all the way.

    Both motor skills and decision making degrade with increased alcohol. >
    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    Or you think you do. You only have your own perceptions of how well you
    ski until something immovable and absolute like a tree gets in the way.

    Even time is relative in an emergency situation. I had a deer run out in
    front of my car at 70mph on a narrow road. AT the time I'd have said
    there was 6s between me seeing it and the emergency stop 8" from the
    thing which then sauntered off into the undergrowth. But when I played
    back the dashcam footage it was all over in 2s - just 48 frames.

    Annoyingly the deceleration swung the camera skywards so that from the
    moment the brakes go on hard you see mostly sky with a pair of ears
    moving along the bottom of the frame.

    --
    Regards,
    Martin Brown

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Thu Mar 31 09:16:32 2022
    On 31/03/2022 06:52, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    No alcohol does not help you thinking clearly.
    Not with driving either.

    Back in the days when it was traditional to go out to the pub on a
    Friday lunchtime we had a rule that the afternoon was for software
    testing *only* with no changes to be made to the code.

    Slightly drunk engineers make more errors and behave like customers in
    doing daft things (sober they would never make such silly mistakes).

    It worked well for finding and documenting faults cause by finger
    trouble and doing unexpected things. When fully sober software testers
    never seem to make the same mistakes end users do.

    Sleep deprivation also degrades decision making to a point where you
    might just as well be drunk so long shifts can be counterproductive. A
    friend who works on safety critical network rail track side signalling
    systems fell asleep at the wheel and crashed on a motorway on their way
    home after an all nighter (such is the pressure to complete the job at
    all costs). Fortunately no-one was seriously hurt.

    --
    Regards,
    Martin Brown

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to '''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk on Thu Mar 31 09:07:28 2022
    On a sunny day (Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:16:32 +0100) it happened Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t23o12$18bb$1@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 31/03/2022 06:52, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    No alcohol does not help you thinking clearly.
    Not with driving either.

    Back in the days when it was traditional to go out to the pub on a
    Friday lunchtime we had a rule that the afternoon was for software
    testing *only* with no changes to be made to the code.

    Slightly drunk engineers make more errors and behave like customers in
    doing daft things (sober they would never make such silly mistakes).

    It worked well for finding and documenting faults cause by finger
    trouble and doing unexpected things. When fully sober software testers
    never seem to make the same mistakes end users do.

    Sleep deprivation also degrades decision making to a point where you
    might just as well be drunk so long shifts can be counterproductive. A
    friend who works on safety critical network rail track side signalling >systems fell asleep at the wheel and crashed on a motorway on their way
    home after an all nighter (such is the pressure to complete the job at
    all costs). Fortunately no-one was seriously hurt.

    Yes, experienced that, flying back home from down under to first Frankfurt Germany, then staying awake at the airport
    there for hours for the connecting flight to Amsterdam, then getting my car from the long time parking
    and driving all the way to the North of the Netherlands.. no sleep for 24? hours?
    At some point I noticed I was losing concentration when a car in front of me started doing silly things
    took the next parking place and had a rest.
    OTOH I was used to long shifts in broadcasting; normal was from 8 in the morning to end of transmission...
    in those days about midnight...

    I have read somewhere that when you get older you need less sleep? 5 to 6 hours is normal here these days.
    Maybe it is because you need less time to evaluate what happened that day?

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  • From Tom Gardner@21:1/5 to Martin Brown on Thu Mar 31 10:41:38 2022
    On 31/03/22 09:07, Martin Brown wrote:
    Even time is relative in an emergency situation. I had a deer run out in front
    of my car at 70mph on a narrow road. AT the time I'd have said there was 6s between me seeing it and the emergency stop 8" from the thing which then sauntered off into the undergrowth. But when I played back the dashcam footage
    it was all over in 2s - just 48 frames.

    I was driving at 50mph on a rural main road, 2s behind the
    car in front.

    A female deer ran between the two cars, from a wood on one
    side to a wood on the other.

    Fortunately she was out of the way before I reached that spot,
    because there was zero chance I could have stopped.

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  • From David Brown@21:1/5 to Martin Brown on Thu Mar 31 11:19:58 2022
    On 31/03/2022 10:07, Martin Brown wrote:
    On 30/03/2022 22:44, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace


    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >>>> you can think.

    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too

    The British guy who invented cats eyes for road marking certainly did -
    to help him get home after a session in a precarious rural pub.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Shaw

    These days we are much less tolerant of drunk driving.

    There is a difference between "drunk driving" and "driving with some
    alcohol". Studies have shown that like many factors that affect driving ability, habit and familiarity is important. People who regularly drink several units and then drive home do so with very little impairment to
    their driving, while people who never drive after drinking can be
    significantly affected from just one drink.

    A key factor with drink-driving is that it is generally quite easy to
    prove the crime, and easy to see whose fault it is. And while a small
    amount of alcohol is going to be a smaller impediment to driving than,
    say, a perfectly legal headache, if you allow generous alcohol limits
    then it's easy for people to go over those limits.


    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level. Driving is more
    millisecond-range instinct and reaction than rational thought.

    It is true up to and only up to the first half pint for playing fast
    video games. It helps takesthe edge off muscle tremor and allows more accurate servo positioning. After that it is downhill all the way.

    Both motor skills and decision making degrade with increased alcohol. >
    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    Or you think you do. You only have your own perceptions of how well you
    ski until something immovable and absolute like a tree gets in the way.


    It depends on how he is judging "better skiing". I doubt if a single
    drink makes a big difference either way, but if it reduces his fear and nervousness a little it might make him more stable. More alcohol will obviously reduce stability, delay reactions, impede judgment, and
    generally make the whole thing a much bigger risk for himself and
    others. On the other hand, it may reduce the injury from a fall.


    Even time is relative in an emergency situation. I had a deer run out in front of my car at 70mph on a narrow road. AT the time I'd have said
    there was 6s between me seeing it and the emergency stop 8" from the
    thing which then sauntered off into the undergrowth. But when I played
    back the dashcam footage it was all over in 2s - just 48 frames.

    Annoyingly the deceleration swung the camera skywards so that from the
    moment the brakes go on hard you see mostly sky with a pair of ears
    moving along the bottom of the frame.


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  • From David Brown@21:1/5 to Tom Gardner on Thu Mar 31 12:02:22 2022
    On 31/03/2022 11:41, Tom Gardner wrote:
    On 31/03/22 09:07, Martin Brown wrote:
    Even time is relative in an emergency situation. I had a deer run out
    in front of my car at 70mph on a narrow road. AT the time I'd have
    said there was 6s between me seeing it and the emergency stop 8" from
    the thing which then sauntered off into the undergrowth. But when I
    played back the dashcam footage it was all over in 2s - just 48 frames.

    I was driving at 50mph on a rural main road, 2s behind the
    car in front.

    When the car passes a stationary object, slowly say to yourself "Only a
    fool breaks the three second rule" and see if you too have passed the
    object.


    A female deer ran between the two cars, from a wood on one
    side to a wood on the other.

    Fortunately she was out of the way before I reached that spot,
    because there was zero chance I could have stopped.

    That's because you too busy admiring the deer!

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  • From Clive Arthur@21:1/5 to Tom Gardner on Thu Mar 31 10:44:30 2022
    On 31/03/2022 10:41, Tom Gardner wrote:
    On 31/03/22 09:07, Martin Brown wrote:
    Even time is relative in an emergency situation. I had a deer run out
    in front of my car at 70mph on a narrow road. AT the time I'd have
    said there was 6s between me seeing it and the emergency stop 8" from
    the thing which then sauntered off into the undergrowth. But when I
    played back the dashcam footage it was all over in 2s - just 48 frames.

    I was driving at 50mph on a rural main road, 2s behind the
    car in front.

    A female deer ran between the two cars, from a wood on one
    side to a wood on the other.

    D'oh! A deer, a female deer.

    Fortunately she was out of the way before I reached that spot,
    because there was zero chance I could have stopped.

    --
    Cheers
    Clive

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  • From Tom Gardner@21:1/5 to David Brown on Thu Mar 31 11:51:39 2022
    On 31/03/22 11:02, David Brown wrote:
    On 31/03/2022 11:41, Tom Gardner wrote:
    On 31/03/22 09:07, Martin Brown wrote:
    Even time is relative in an emergency situation. I had a deer run out
    in front of my car at 70mph on a narrow road. AT the time I'd have
    said there was 6s between me seeing it and the emergency stop 8" from
    the thing which then sauntered off into the undergrowth. But when I
    played back the dashcam footage it was all over in 2s - just 48 frames.

    I was driving at 50mph on a rural main road, 2s behind the
    car in front.

    When the car passes a stationary object, slowly say to yourself "Only a
    fool breaks the three second rule" and see if you too have passed the
    object.

    It used to be "two second"; has it changed? [1]

    I remember those awful late night CoI shutdown "adverts",
    mostly along the lines of "don't let grandpa fall asleep
    while smoking", or "don't fall off ladders".

    The "only a fool breaks the #two second rule" was the only
    one that provided non-obvious important information. I
    drummed that into my daughter :)

    [1] Highway code rule 126 is still 2s. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/general-rules-techniques-and-advice-for-all-drivers-and-riders-103-to-158#rule126

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  • From David Brown@21:1/5 to Tom Gardner on Thu Mar 31 13:20:41 2022
    On 31/03/2022 12:51, Tom Gardner wrote:
    On 31/03/22 11:02, David Brown wrote:
    On 31/03/2022 11:41, Tom Gardner wrote:
    On 31/03/22 09:07, Martin Brown wrote:
    Even time is relative in an emergency situation. I had a deer run out
    in front of my car at 70mph on a narrow road. AT the time I'd have
    said there was 6s between me seeing it and the emergency stop 8" from
    the thing which then sauntered off into the undergrowth. But when I
    played back the dashcam footage it was all over in 2s - just 48 frames. >>>
    I was driving at 50mph on a rural main road, 2s behind the
    car in front.

    When the car passes a stationary object, slowly say to yourself "Only a
    fool breaks the three second rule" and see if you too have passed the
    object.

    It used to be "two second"; has it changed? [1]


    It changes with age :-)

    It should probably now be "Only a fool breaks the two or three second
    rule - I can't remember which". Then you'll be safe!


    I remember those awful late night CoI shutdown "adverts",
    mostly along the lines of "don't let grandpa fall asleep
    while smoking", or "don't fall off ladders".

    The "only a fool breaks the #two second rule" was the only
    one that provided non-obvious important information. I
    drummed that into my daughter :)

    [1] Highway code rule 126 is still 2s. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/general-rules-techniques-and-advice-for-all-drivers-and-riders-103-to-158#rule126


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  • From Mike Monett@21:1/5 to Martin Brown on Thu Mar 31 11:18:16 2022
    Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 30/03/2022 22:44, John Larkin wrote:

    [...]

    Both motor skills and decision making degrade with increased alcohol. >

    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    Or you think you do. You only have your own perceptions of how well you
    ski until something immovable and absolute like a tree gets in the way.

    [...]

    After I bought my Piper Malibu, N4360V, I flew out to a ranch north of San Francisco where I had dinner and a beer. The meal was fine, but when I got in the plane to fly home, I was astonished at how badly my skills had
    deteoriated. That was the last time I ever flew after having a drink.

    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5874208&nseq=0



    --
    MRM

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  • From Tom Gardner@21:1/5 to David Brown on Thu Mar 31 13:19:23 2022
    On 31/03/22 12:20, David Brown wrote:
    On 31/03/2022 12:51, Tom Gardner wrote:
    On 31/03/22 11:02, David Brown wrote:
    On 31/03/2022 11:41, Tom Gardner wrote:
    On 31/03/22 09:07, Martin Brown wrote:
    Even time is relative in an emergency situation. I had a deer run out >>>>> in front of my car at 70mph on a narrow road. AT the time I'd have
    said there was 6s between me seeing it and the emergency stop 8" from >>>>> the thing which then sauntered off into the undergrowth. But when I
    played back the dashcam footage it was all over in 2s - just 48 frames. >>>>
    I was driving at 50mph on a rural main road, 2s behind the
    car in front.

    When the car passes a stationary object, slowly say to yourself "Only a
    fool breaks the three second rule" and see if you too have passed the
    object.

    It used to be "two second"; has it changed? [1]


    It changes with age :-)

    And concentration :( Driving is boring.


    It should probably now be "Only a fool breaks the two or three second
    rule - I can't remember which". Then you'll be safe!

    er. Safer :(

    Even 3s wouldn't have been sufficient when an immovable
    object materialises directly in your path.


    I remember those awful late night CoI shutdown "adverts",
    mostly along the lines of "don't let grandpa fall asleep
    while smoking", or "don't fall off ladders".

    The "only a fool breaks the #two second rule" was the only
    one that provided non-obvious important information. I
    drummed that into my daughter :)

    [1] Highway code rule 126 is still 2s.
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/general-rules-techniques-and-advice-for-all-drivers-and-riders-103-to-158#rule126



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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Thu Mar 31 10:02:36 2022
    John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.


    Obligatory XKCD reference:

    https://xkcd.com/323/

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Thu Mar 31 10:08:24 2022
    On 3/30/2022 10:13 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 10:02:30 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >>>>> On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    <snip>

    alcohol increase reaction time
    A lot sure does. Not all functions are monotonic.

    This one is.

    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    or you think you do, that is one of the effects of alcohol

    No, it's real, as verified by extensive experiment.

    Read the Drunk book.

    Activities that depend on rapid reactions are helped by low doses of alcohol - you waste less time overthinking about what you are going to do.

    Rifle-shooting - as a competitive sport also bans alcohol. Rapid reaction time doesn't come into that, but the minimal tranquilising effect of a little ethanol does help. It also make you more dangerous to the other competitors, in the same way that
    even low doses of alcohol make you a more dangerous driver, as even though you are more likely to put the car into exactly the place you want to, it becomes more likely that you will want to put it into place that you shouldn't.


    Alcohol on a first date is kinda like that, too...

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical. on Thu Mar 31 07:17:28 2022
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:02:36 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.


    Obligatory XKCD reference:

    https://xkcd.com/323/

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    The x-axis scales with body mass.



    --

    I yam what I yam - Popeye

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com on Thu Mar 31 07:16:05 2022
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 05:52:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700) it happened John Larkin ><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in ><68c94h97sr8kmt2brg4jsf3ra4smqge2tj@4ax.com>:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.

    Sales ads
    I have not used any alcohol apart from for cleaning stuff since 1974 or there about.
    You would not believe my experiences before that when sailing,,,
    I think some were reproduced in those 'Pirates of the Caribbean' movies.
    like me laying on the floor.
    In my school days.. day out sailing, director stepping over me, 'Oh its him again'
    Well I passed anyways,

    No alcohol does not help you thinking clearly.

    Read the book maybe. It's interesting.

    Of course, people are different. I personally don't benefit from
    alcohol to enable free thinking, but apparently most people do.



    --

    I yam what I yam - Popeye

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to bitrex on Thu Mar 31 07:26:56 2022
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:08:24 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 10:13 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 10:02:30 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >>>>>> On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    <snip>

    alcohol increase reaction time
    A lot sure does. Not all functions are monotonic.

    This one is.

    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    or you think you do, that is one of the effects of alcohol

    No, it's real, as verified by extensive experiment.

    Read the Drunk book.

    Activities that depend on rapid reactions are helped by low doses of alcohol - you waste less time overthinking about what you are going to do.

    Rifle-shooting - as a competitive sport also bans alcohol. Rapid reaction time doesn't come into that, but the minimal tranquilising effect of a little ethanol does help. It also make you more dangerous to the other competitors, in the same way
    that even low doses of alcohol make you a more dangerous driver, as even though you are more likely to put the car into exactly the place you want to, it becomes more likely that you will want to put it into place that you shouldn't.


    Alcohol on a first date is kinda like that, too...

    Alcohol is a key component of human socialization. Maybe the muslim
    countries are so hostile because they don't drink together.



    --

    I yam what I yam - Popeye

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  • From legg@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology. on Thu Mar 31 10:38:49 2022
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:


    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.

    Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:

    'yes'.

    A very old trick.

    RL

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Thu Mar 31 14:48:42 2022
    On a sunny day (Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:16:05 -0700) it happened jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in <qpdb4h1ar825a15bcica4qbguevbde1g0s@4ax.com>:

    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 05:52:55 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700) it happened John Larkin >><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in >><68c94h97sr8kmt2brg4jsf3ra4smqge2tj@4ax.com>:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >>>you can think.

    Sales ads
    I have not used any alcohol apart from for cleaning stuff since 1974 or there about.
    You would not believe my experiences before that when sailing,,,
    I think some were reproduced in those 'Pirates of the Caribbean' movies. >>like me laying on the floor.
    In my school days.. day out sailing, director stepping over me, 'Oh its him again'
    Well I passed anyways,

    No alcohol does not help you thinking clearly.

    Read the book maybe. It's interesting.

    Of course, people are different. I personally don't benefit from
    alcohol to enable free thinking, but apparently most people do.

    I think it sort of diminishes some inhibitions maybe.
    It may however give you a decent headache the next day.
    When I stopped, I never really missed it, same with drugs.
    Lived for years in a sort of community with no alcohol and no meat,
    never missed it.
    Today I was eating some nice Italian made Liquorice, had not tasted that for a long time.
    :-)

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to legg on Thu Mar 31 07:47:03 2022
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:38:49 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin ><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.

    Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:

    'yes'.

    A very old trick.

    RL

    Read the book. You might learn something.



    --

    I yam what I yam - Popeye

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  • From Lasse Langwadt Christensen@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 31 09:01:11 2022
    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >> >> you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.

    unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
    The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
    sub-0.1%.

    What would "per mil" mean?

    parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille

    here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
    to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Thu Mar 31 12:59:12 2022
    jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:02:36 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.


    Obligatory XKCD reference:

    https://xkcd.com/323/


    The x-axis scales with body mass.

    In units of shots per hour, pretty much--although it's really muscle
    mass that counts, because (unlike THC) alcohol isn't very fat-soluble.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs


    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to legg on Thu Mar 31 13:02:34 2022
    legg wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:


    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.

    Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:

    'yes'.

    A very old trick.

    RL


    IIRC it was Herodotus who says, in his account of the Persian empire,
    that the "laws of the Medes and the Persians", once enacted, could never
    be changed, and so they debated them twice--once drunk and once sober.

    (That way you're more likely to get people to think straight and give
    their honest opinion, even if not necessarily at the same time.)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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  • From Lasse Langwadt Christensen@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 31 10:29:52 2022
    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 19.17.18 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
    <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >> >>
    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office. >> >> >>
    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.

    unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
    The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
    sub-0.1%.

    What would "per mil" mean?

    parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille

    here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
    to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice


    Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.

    should have been a "‰" so 0.05% 0.12%


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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to langwadt@fonz.dk on Thu Mar 31 10:17:05 2022
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
    <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >> >> >> you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.

    unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
    The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
    sub-0.1%.

    What would "per mil" mean?

    parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille

    here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
    to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice



    Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to Lasse Langwadt Christensen on Thu Mar 31 14:52:19 2022
    Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 19.17.18 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
    <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
    <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office. >>>>>>>>
    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >>>>>>>> you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.

    unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off >>>> The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
    sub-0.1%.

    What would "per mil" mean?

    parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille

    here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
    to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice


    Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.

    should have been a "‰" so 0.05% 0.12%


    You get fined a month's income for 0.05%? That's pretty draconian. One
    drink can get you there. (Not at my body mass, of course.)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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  • From Lasse Langwadt Christensen@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 31 12:48:07 2022
    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 20.52.28 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:
    Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 19.17.18 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
    <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen >>>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>
    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office. >>>>>>>>
    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.

    unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off >>>> The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
    sub-0.1%.

    What would "per mil" mean?

    parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille

    here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
    to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice


    Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.

    should have been a "‰" so 0.05% 0.12%


    You get fined a month's income for 0.05%? That's pretty draconian.

    just looked it up, it's multiplied by the per mille, so half a month's income for 0.05%
    a months income for 0.1%

    I think 0.5 permille is the limit in most of Europe

    One
    drink can get you there. (Not at my body mass, of course.)

    yeh, one or two drinks. Simpler to just not drink at all if driving

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Thu Mar 31 15:56:22 2022
    On 3/31/2022 10:26 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:08:24 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 10:13 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 10:02:30 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    <snip>

    alcohol increase reaction time
    A lot sure does. Not all functions are monotonic.

    This one is.

    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    or you think you do, that is one of the effects of alcohol

    No, it's real, as verified by extensive experiment.

    Read the Drunk book.

    Activities that depend on rapid reactions are helped by low doses of alcohol - you waste less time overthinking about what you are going to do.

    Rifle-shooting - as a competitive sport also bans alcohol. Rapid reaction time doesn't come into that, but the minimal tranquilising effect of a little ethanol does help. It also make you more dangerous to the other competitors, in the same way
    that even low doses of alcohol make you a more dangerous driver, as even though you are more likely to put the car into exactly the place you want to, it becomes more likely that you will want to put it into place that you shouldn't.


    Alcohol on a first date is kinda like that, too...

    Alcohol is a key component of human socialization. Maybe the muslim
    countries are so hostile because they don't drink together.

    Many other countries don't have the stigma against marijuana the US
    does, where you can easily meet the type of guy who drinks three
    six-packs a week but thinks weed is a "gateway drug"

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Thu Mar 31 16:00:19 2022
    On 3/31/2022 10:26 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:08:24 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 10:13 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 10:02:30 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:
    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>> On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    <snip>

    alcohol increase reaction time
    A lot sure does. Not all functions are monotonic.

    This one is.

    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    or you think you do, that is one of the effects of alcohol

    No, it's real, as verified by extensive experiment.

    Read the Drunk book.

    Activities that depend on rapid reactions are helped by low doses of alcohol - you waste less time overthinking about what you are going to do.

    Rifle-shooting - as a competitive sport also bans alcohol. Rapid reaction time doesn't come into that, but the minimal tranquilising effect of a little ethanol does help. It also make you more dangerous to the other competitors, in the same way
    that even low doses of alcohol make you a more dangerous driver, as even though you are more likely to put the car into exactly the place you want to, it becomes more likely that you will want to put it into place that you shouldn't.


    Alcohol on a first date is kinda like that, too...

    Alcohol is a key component of human socialization. Maybe the muslim
    countries are so hostile because they don't drink together.

    Alcohol makes people really angry sometimes, I think airlines have to
    deal with this like 1000 times a day...

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Lasse Langwadt Christensen on Thu Mar 31 16:02:29 2022
    On 3/31/2022 3:48 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 20.52.28 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:
    Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 19.17.18 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
    <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen >>>>>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>
    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at >>>>>>>>>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office. >>>>>>>>>>
    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.

    unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off >>>>>> The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
    sub-0.1%.

    What would "per mil" mean?

    parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille

    here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months >>>>> to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice


    Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.

    should have been a "‰" so 0.05% 0.12%


    You get fined a month's income for 0.05%? That's pretty draconian.

    just looked it up, it's multiplied by the per mille, so half a month's income for 0.05%
    a months income for 0.1%

    I think 0.5 permille is the limit in most of Europe

    One
    drink can get you there. (Not at my body mass, of course.)

    yeh, one or two drinks. Simpler to just not drink at all if driving

    Most bars in the US would go out of business if people couldn't drive to
    get there.

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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology. on Thu Mar 31 17:00:30 2022
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:


    .<https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace>

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382>

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.

    I have not read the book, but I do have one comment after scanning the
    TOC:

    There is a far simpler explanation for the fact that of all the
    alcohols, only ethyl alcohol can be consumed without immediate death:
    rotten fruit.

    Fruit that has fallen from trees and is just sitting there soon
    ferments. Critters that can consume such fruit without dying gain
    access to a fairly large food source. So it was pretty much
    inevitable that some critters would evolve the needed enzyme.

    This happened well before humans evolved, but they liked to party as
    well.

    "African Animals Getting Drunk From Ripe Marula Fruit"

    .<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIDJ-sTuoO8>


    And the wet blanket folk:

    .<https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-alcoholics-of-the-animal-world-81007700/#:~:text=Local%20lore%20says%20that%20elephants,fruit%20right%20off%20the%20tree.>


    Joe Gwinn

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  • From legg@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 31 18:35:17 2022
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:47:03 -0700, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
    wrote:

    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:38:49 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin >><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >>>you can think.

    Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:

    'yes'.

    A very old trick.

    RL

    Read the book. You might learn something.

    'Have some Madiera, m'dear.'

    Chemical enhancement of brain activity for ANY purpose,
    does not interest me.

    RL

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  • From Lasse Langwadt Christensen@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 31 16:38:57 2022
    fredag den 1. april 2022 kl. 00.34.48 UTC+2 skrev legg:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:47:03 -0700, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
    wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:38:49 -0400, legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin >><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at >>>brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >>>you can think.

    Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:

    'yes'.

    A very old trick.

    RL

    Read the book. You might learn something.
    'Have some Madiera, m'dear.'

    Chemical enhancement of brain activity for ANY purpose,
    does not interest me.

    without food and drink you'd shortly have no brain activity at all so ..

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to Lasse Langwadt Christensen on Thu Mar 31 19:54:15 2022
    Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
    fredag den 1. april 2022 kl. 00.34.48 UTC+2 skrev legg:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:47:03 -0700, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
    wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:38:49 -0400, legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin
    <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:


    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >>>>> you can think.

    Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:

    'yes'.

    A very old trick.

    RL

    Read the book. You might learn something.
    'Have some Madiera, m'dear.'

    Chemical enhancement of brain activity for ANY purpose,
    does not interest me.

    without food and drink you'd shortly have no brain activity at all so ..


    Don't mind Rob, he just hasn't had his morning coffee in a few years. ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs
    Principal Consultant
    ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
    Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
    Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

    http://electrooptical.net
    http://hobbs-eo.com

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  • From Tom Gardner@21:1/5 to Joe Gwinn on Fri Apr 1 01:10:52 2022
    On 31/03/22 22:00, Joe Gwinn wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:


    .<https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace>

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    <https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382>

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.

    I have not read the book, but I do have one comment after scanning the
    TOC:

    There is a far simpler explanation for the fact that of all the
    alcohols, only ethyl alcohol can be consumed without immediate death:
    rotten fruit.

    Fruit that has fallen from trees and is just sitting there soon
    ferments. Critters that can consume such fruit without dying gain
    access to a fairly large food source. So it was pretty much
    inevitable that some critters would evolve the needed enzyme.

    This happened well before humans evolved, but they liked to party as
    well.

    "African Animals Getting Drunk From Ripe Marula Fruit"

    .<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIDJ-sTuoO8>


    And the wet blanket folk:

    .<https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-alcoholics-of-the-animal-world-81007700/#:~:text=Local%20lore%20says%20that%20elephants,fruit%20right%20off%20the%20tree.>


    Joe Gwinn


    I've seen blackbirds consume rowan/mountain ash/sorbus
    berries to excess. Their wing movements when flying are,
    um, distinctly uncoordinated.

    The other uses of rowan are protection against witches, and
    the rather delicious rowan and crab apple jelly tracklement
    which is especially good with game.

    Never noticed any intoxication myself, nor with nutmeg.

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  • From Clive Arthur@21:1/5 to Tom Gardner on Fri Apr 1 10:15:40 2022
    On 01/04/2022 01:10, Tom Gardner wrote:

    <snip>

    Never noticed any intoxication myself, nor with nutmeg.

    I used to nibble a whole nutmeg at school. Quite floaty. Also 'Victory
    V' lozenges, which at the time contained chloroform and ether.

    Never did me any washstand-paradiddle.

    --
    Cheers
    Clive

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to legg@nospam.magma.ca on Fri Apr 1 14:32:16 2022
    On a sunny day (Fri, 01 Apr 2022 10:25:22 -0400) it happened legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote in <on2e4h9vvhv1idhcsp6lltevk6lqb5dju1@4ax.com>:

    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 19:54:15 -0400, Phil Hobbs ><pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
    fredag den 1. april 2022 kl. 00.34.48 UTC+2 skrev legg:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:47:03 -0700, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
    wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:38:49 -0400, legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote: >>>>>
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin
    <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:


    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office. >>>>>>>
    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >>>>>>> you can think.

    Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:

    'yes'.

    A very old trick.

    RL

    Read the book. You might learn something.
    'Have some Madiera, m'dear.'

    Chemical enhancement of brain activity for ANY purpose,
    does not interest me.

    without food and drink you'd shortly have no brain activity at all so .. >>>

    Don't mind Rob, he just hasn't had his morning coffee in a few years. ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    I've eaten sardines on toast every Sunday morning for the last
    15 years.

    It doesn't work.

    RL

    Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)

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  • From legg@21:1/5 to pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical. on Fri Apr 1 10:25:22 2022
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 19:54:15 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
    fredag den 1. april 2022 kl. 00.34.48 UTC+2 skrev legg:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 07:47:03 -0700, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
    wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 10:38:49 -0400, legg <le...@nospam.magma.ca> wrote: >>>>
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 12:40:21 -0700, John Larkin
    <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:


    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >>>>>> you can think.

    Not so much improved thinking, just increased willingness to say:

    'yes'.

    A very old trick.

    RL

    Read the book. You might learn something.
    'Have some Madiera, m'dear.'

    Chemical enhancement of brain activity for ANY purpose,
    does not interest me.

    without food and drink you'd shortly have no brain activity at all so ..


    Don't mind Rob, he just hasn't had his morning coffee in a few years. ;)

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    I've eaten sardines on toast every Sunday morning for the last
    15 years.

    It doesn't work.

    RL

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to '''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk on Fri Apr 1 14:45:31 2022
    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:40:46 +0100) it happened Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t272tg$mdv$2@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)

    Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
    Cannibals beware!

    https://www.rt.com/russia/553114-ukraine-prisoner-torture-inspections/

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Fri Apr 1 15:40:46 2022
    On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)

    Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
    Cannibals beware!


    --
    Regards,
    Martin Brown

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Fri Apr 1 09:44:07 2022
    On 2022/04/01 7:45 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:40:46 +0100) it happened Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t272tg$mdv$2@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)

    Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
    Cannibals beware!

    https://www.rt.com/russia/553114-ukraine-prisoner-torture-inspections/


    I love how one of the RT (Russian Truth or Pravda) headlines is "Russia
    wants security guarantees for all European states - Lavrov".

    Which means? Dissolve that pesky NATO so Russia can pick off each
    country individually...

    John ;-#)#

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to spam@flippers.com on Fri Apr 1 17:00:56 2022
    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:44:07 -0700) it happened John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> wrote in <n6GdnfKF5pJFttr_nZ2dnUU7-afNnZ2d@giganews.com>:


    On 2022/04/01 7:45 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:40:46 +0100) it happened Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t272tg$mdv$2@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)

    Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
    Cannibals beware!

    https://www.rt.com/russia/553114-ukraine-prisoner-torture-inspections/


    I love how one of the RT (Russian Truth or Pravda) headlines is "Russia
    wants security guarantees for all European states - Lavrov".

    Which means? Dissolve that pesky NATO so Russia can pick off each
    country individually...

    John ;-#)#

    So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
    Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?

    NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist robbers. NATO are just commie haters.

    US is just sending its CIA agent warmongers all over the world to create wars and sell weapons
    At the same time taxing its own population to death with an ever bigger military budget.
    After Afghanistan they needed a new market, the puppet they have now installed as ukrainian president is actually a comedian...
    A very very sad one these days, look what CIA has brought him and his people.

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com on Fri Apr 1 19:34:46 2022
    On Fri, 01 Apr 2022 17:00:56 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:44:07 -0700) it happened John Robertson ><spam@flippers.com> wrote in <n6GdnfKF5pJFttr_nZ2dnUU7-afNnZ2d@giganews.com>:


    On 2022/04/01 7:45 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:40:46 +0100) it happened Martin Brown >>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t272tg$mdv$2@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)

    Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
    Cannibals beware!

    https://www.rt.com/russia/553114-ukraine-prisoner-torture-inspections/ >>>

    I love how one of the RT (Russian Truth or Pravda) headlines is "Russia >>wants security guarantees for all European states - Lavrov".

    Which means? Dissolve that pesky NATO so Russia can pick off each
    country individually...

    John ;-#)#

    So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
    Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?

    NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist robbers. >NATO are just commie haters.


    Makes sense. "Communism" always progresses to rule by thugs, with lots
    of deaths.



    --

    I yam what I yam - Popeye

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Sat Apr 2 04:43:27 2022
    On a sunny day (Fri, 01 Apr 2022 19:34:46 -0700) it happened jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in <1fdf4hh8kb17vfe3uqhjmhkmlhdf9k6v8h@4ax.com>:

    On Fri, 01 Apr 2022 17:00:56 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:44:07 -0700) it happened John Robertson >><spam@flippers.com> wrote in <n6GdnfKF5pJFttr_nZ2dnUU7-afNnZ2d@giganews.com>: >>

    On 2022/04/01 7:45 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:40:46 +0100) it happened Martin Brown >>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t272tg$mdv$2@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)

    Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
    Cannibals beware!

    https://www.rt.com/russia/553114-ukraine-prisoner-torture-inspections/ >>>>

    I love how one of the RT (Russian Truth or Pravda) headlines is "Russia >>>wants security guarantees for all European states - Lavrov".

    Which means? Dissolve that pesky NATO so Russia can pick off each
    country individually...

    John ;-#)#

    So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
    Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?

    NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist robbers. >>NATO are just commie haters.


    Makes sense. "Communism" always progresses to rule by thugs, with lots
    of deaths.

    Depends
    Hiroshima Nagasaki nuclear attacks on civilians
    Vietnam Agent Orange used on civilians.
    Iraq depleted uranium used as ammo polluting their land for many many years, civilians
    Afghanistan drones used on civilians
    US capitalism
    The list is much much longer,
    So who are the thugs,

    And look at the US now, compared to Europe and China
    What a sad case US has become, China has 5G and is working on 6G, has little covid,
    Europe does not have a fraction of the debt that US has,
    Sure completion will speed innovation, nothing wrong with that and people owning stuff
    But the US Military Industrial Complex has gone out of control,
    the leaders are below 100 IQ, the crime is out of control,
    the infrastructure is falling apart and in the coming nuclear exchange.... Ruled by lies and fear US is

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com on Sat Apr 2 08:14:31 2022
    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 04:43:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 01 Apr 2022 19:34:46 -0700) it happened >jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in ><1fdf4hh8kb17vfe3uqhjmhkmlhdf9k6v8h@4ax.com>:

    On Fri, 01 Apr 2022 17:00:56 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:44:07 -0700) it happened John Robertson >>><spam@flippers.com> wrote in <n6GdnfKF5pJFttr_nZ2dnUU7-afNnZ2d@giganews.com>:


    On 2022/04/01 7:45 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:40:46 +0100) it happened Martin Brown >>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t272tg$mdv$2@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)

    Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
    Cannibals beware!

    https://www.rt.com/russia/553114-ukraine-prisoner-torture-inspections/ >>>>>

    I love how one of the RT (Russian Truth or Pravda) headlines is "Russia >>>>wants security guarantees for all European states - Lavrov".

    Which means? Dissolve that pesky NATO so Russia can pick off each >>>>country individually...

    John ;-#)#

    So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
    Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?

    NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist robbers.
    NATO are just commie haters.


    Makes sense. "Communism" always progresses to rule by thugs, with lots
    of deaths.

    Depends
    Hiroshima Nagasaki nuclear attacks on civilians
    Vietnam Agent Orange used on civilians.
    Iraq depleted uranium used as ammo polluting their land for many many years, civilians
    Afghanistan drones used on civilians
    US capitalism

    Saved billions of lives all around the world.

    The list is much much longer,
    So who are the thugs,

    Stalin, Mao, Xi, Castro, PolPot, Maduro. Tens of millions dead for no
    reason, not even a war.


    And look at the US now, compared to Europe and China
    What a sad case US has become, China has 5G and is working on 6G, has little covid,

    Do you trust the Chinese statistics? And they have increasing covid
    because they have created a suceptable population, at great expense.

    Europe does not have a fraction of the debt that US has,
    Sure completion will speed innovation, nothing wrong with that and people owning stuff
    But the US Military Industrial Complex has gone out of control,
    the leaders are below 100 IQ, the crime is out of control,
    the infrastructure is falling apart and in the coming nuclear exchange.... >Ruled by lies and fear US is



    It's actually great here now. I sure wouldn't prefer to live in China
    or the Congo or Cuba, or even the Netherlands.

    Just look at the direction of migration. People are free to leave the
    US, but millions are fighting to get in.

    That's another mark of communism: people are not allowed to leave.





    --

    I yam what I yam - Popeye

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Sat Apr 2 16:33:53 2022
    On a sunny day (Sat, 02 Apr 2022 08:14:31 -0700) it happened jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in <7kpg4hhns7cr9o474u3rkmoadn3afnrpv5@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 04:43:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Depends
    Hiroshima Nagasaki nuclear attacks on civilians
    Vietnam Agent Orange used on civilians.
    Iraq depleted uranium used as ammo polluting their land for many many years, civilians
    Afghanistan drones used on civilians
    US capitalism

    Saved billions of lives all around the world.

    :-) what can I say...

    Was in one of those many books you read?


    The list is much much longer,
    So who are the thugs,

    Stalin, Mao, Xi, Castro, PolPot, Maduro. Tens of millions dead for no
    reason, not even a war.

    Xi? I think not.
    Castro not either
    Maduro not either
    Mao I know little about
    Stalin was he not leading the fight against Germany that invaded Russia in WW2?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

    without Stalin you could not have 'freed' Europe, Russia did most of the work.


    And look at the US now, compared to Europe and China
    What a sad case US has become, China has 5G and is working on 6G, has little covid,

    Do you trust the Chinese statistics? And they have increasing covid
    because they have created a suceptable population, at great expense.

    True, covid may win, 5G there is real.


    Europe does not have a fraction of the debt that US has,
    Sure completion will speed innovation, nothing wrong with that and people owning stuff
    But the US Military Industrial Complex has gone out of control,
    the leaders are below 100 IQ, the crime is out of control,
    the infrastructure is falling apart and in the coming nuclear exchange.... >>Ruled by lies and fear US is



    It's actually great here now. I sure wouldn't prefer to live in China
    or the Congo or Cuba, or even the Netherlands.

    I sometimes watch Cuban TV on satellite here, special kind of music, some is nice.
    No homelessness there like in the US where they live on the beaches I think. People look well fed..
    Ever been there, ever been to the Netherlands? Or Europe even?


    Just look at the direction of migration. People are free to leave the
    US, but millions are fighting to get in.

    They are fleeing drug cartel wars in their countries,
    attracted by promises of everything better in 'merrica, wind up in secret sweatshops used as slaves with no pay and long hours.




    That's another mark of communism: people are not allowed to leave.

    If you want to leave you can..

    Lots of violence in 'merrica, guns...

    And 'merrica has become a very unreliable entity to do business with
    make a contract.. next president will nullify it like with Iran.
    VERY unreliable,
    This is coming, at least try reading it:
    https://www.rt.com/business/553099-gold-backed-ruble-gamechanger-west/
    has been in the works for some time (if you could see Russian TV).

    There is a lot more, the US empire is over the hill.

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  • From Ralph Mowery@21:1/5 to All on Sat Apr 2 13:17:13 2022
    In article <7kpg4hhns7cr9o474u3rkmoadn3afnrpv5@4ax.com>, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com says...

    And look at the US now, compared to Europe and China
    What a sad case US has become, China has 5G and is working on 6G, has little covid,

    Do you trust the Chinese statistics? And they have increasing covid
    because they have created a suceptable population, at great expense.




    The news today said china was on a big lockdown because of the new
    version of the virus.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Cydrome Leader@21:1/5 to David Brown on Sat Apr 2 17:21:32 2022
    David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:
    On 31/03/2022 10:07, Martin Brown wrote:
    On 30/03/2022 22:44, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace


    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >>>>> you can think.

    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too

    The British guy who invented cats eyes for road marking certainly did -
    to help him get home after a session in a precarious rural pub.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Shaw

    These days we are much less tolerant of drunk driving.

    There is a difference between "drunk driving" and "driving with some alcohol". Studies have shown that like many factors that affect driving ability, habit and familiarity is important. People who regularly drink several units and then drive home do so with very little impairment to
    their driving, while people who never drive after drinking can be significantly affected from just one drink.

    A key factor with drink-driving is that it is generally quite easy to
    prove the crime, and easy to see whose fault it is. And while a small
    amount of alcohol is going to be a smaller impediment to driving than,
    say, a perfectly legal headache, if you allow generous alcohol limits
    then it's easy for people to go over those limits.


    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level. Driving is more
    millisecond-range instinct and reaction than rational thought.

    It is true up to and only up to the first half pint for playing fast
    video games. It helps takesthe edge off muscle tremor and allows more
    accurate servo positioning. After that it is downhill all the way.

    Both motor skills and decision making degrade with increased alcohol. >
    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    Or you think you do. You only have your own perceptions of how well you
    ski until something immovable and absolute like a tree gets in the way.


    It depends on how he is judging "better skiing". I doubt if a single
    drink makes a big difference either way, but if it reduces his fear and nervousness a little it might make him more stable. More alcohol will obviously reduce stability, delay reactions, impede judgment, and
    generally make the whole thing a much bigger risk for himself and
    others. On the other hand, it may reduce the injury from a fall.

    The delayed reactions may improve the performance of his control loop too.
    It gets tiring real fast to fight a machine or even yourself.

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com on Sat Apr 2 10:34:42 2022
    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 16:33:53 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 02 Apr 2022 08:14:31 -0700) it happened >jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in ><7kpg4hhns7cr9o474u3rkmoadn3afnrpv5@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 04:43:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
    Depends
    Hiroshima Nagasaki nuclear attacks on civilians
    Vietnam Agent Orange used on civilians.
    Iraq depleted uranium used as ammo polluting their land for many many years, civilians
    Afghanistan drones used on civilians
    US capitalism

    Saved billions of lives all around the world.

    :-) what can I say...

    Was in one of those many books you read?


    The list is much much longer,
    So who are the thugs,

    Stalin, Mao, Xi, Castro, PolPot, Maduro. Tens of millions dead for no >>reason, not even a war.

    Xi? I think not.
    Castro not either
    Maduro not either
    Mao I know little about
    Stalin was he not leading the fight against Germany that invaded Russia in WW2?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

    without Stalin you could not have 'freed' Europe, Russia did most of the work.


    And look at the US now, compared to Europe and China
    What a sad case US has become, China has 5G and is working on 6G, has little covid,

    Do you trust the Chinese statistics? And they have increasing covid
    because they have created a suceptable population, at great expense.

    True, covid may win, 5G there is real.


    Europe does not have a fraction of the debt that US has,
    Sure completion will speed innovation, nothing wrong with that and people owning stuff
    But the US Military Industrial Complex has gone out of control,
    the leaders are below 100 IQ, the crime is out of control,
    the infrastructure is falling apart and in the coming nuclear exchange.... >>>Ruled by lies and fear US is



    It's actually great here now. I sure wouldn't prefer to live in China
    or the Congo or Cuba, or even the Netherlands.

    I sometimes watch Cuban TV on satellite here, special kind of music, some is nice.
    No homelessness there like in the US where they live on the beaches I think. >People look well fed..
    Ever been there, ever been to the Netherlands? Or Europe even?

    I've spent time in France, Switzerland, England, Ireland, Japan,
    Canada, and a month working in the USSR. The USSR was the really weird
    one.

    We do a lot of business in the Netherlands but I haven't been there
    myself. Looks flat and boring to me. Visitors from there to California
    are stunned by the beauty; I take them for hikes and they take a lot
    of pictures.

    I was a flatlander myself, until I reached the Age of Reason (32 in my
    case) and moved West.




    Just look at the direction of migration. People are free to leave the
    US, but millions are fighting to get in.

    They are fleeing drug cartel wars in their countries,
    attracted by promises of everything better in 'merrica, wind up in secret sweatshops used as slaves with no pay and long hours.

    No. Just no.





    That's another mark of communism: people are not allowed to leave.

    If you want to leave you can..

    Lots of violence in 'merrica, guns...

    Most people never get involved in violence. Most people here are
    peaceful, helpful, and polite.




    And 'merrica has become a very unreliable entity to do business with
    make a contract.. next president will nullify it like with Iran.
    VERY unreliable,
    This is coming, at least try reading it:
    https://www.rt.com/business/553099-gold-backed-ruble-gamechanger-west/
    has been in the works for some time (if you could see Russian TV).

    There is a lot more, the US empire is over the hill.

    The US never had an empire.

    Try reading "Poorly Made in China"

    US businesses are remarkably honest and moral. It's right and it's
    good for business.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to rmowery42@charter.net on Sat Apr 2 10:39:36 2022
    On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 13:17:13 -0400, Ralph Mowery
    <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

    In article <7kpg4hhns7cr9o474u3rkmoadn3afnrpv5@4ax.com>, >jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com says...

    And look at the US now, compared to Europe and China
    What a sad case US has become, China has 5G and is working on 6G, has little covid,

    Do you trust the Chinese statistics? And they have increasing covid
    because they have created a suceptable population, at great expense.




    The news today said china was on a big lockdown because of the new
    version of the virus.


    Lockdowns just maintain a suceptable population and have bad side
    effects.

    One unexpected benefit of lockdowns was to reserve an infectable
    population which is now getting much less lethal variants. Given that,
    the best bet is for China now is to let it rip.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology. on Sat Apr 2 18:47:49 2022
    On a sunny day (Sat, 02 Apr 2022 10:34:42 -0700) it happened John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in <jh1h4hto67j2p6nv9gngsetk2etlditc7q@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 16:33:53 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:
    or the Congo or Cuba, or even the Netherlands.

    I sometimes watch Cuban TV on satellite here, special kind of music, some is nice.
    No homelessness there like in the US where they live on the beaches I think. >>People look well fed..
    Ever been there, ever been to the Netherlands? Or Europe even?

    I've spent time in France, Switzerland, England, Ireland, Japan,
    Canada, and a month working in the USSR. The USSR was the really weird
    one.

    I have been to many of those places too, but not to the USSR and Ireland, and to East Germany before the wall fell.
    Was OK for me.

    We do a lot of business in the Netherlands but I haven't been there
    myself. Looks flat and boring to me. Visitors from there to California
    are stunned by the beauty; I take them for hikes and they take a lot
    of pictures.

    I was a flatlander myself, until I reached the Age of Reason (32 in my
    case) and moved West.

    Well I avoid skying, every year trains come back from Switzerland with people with limbs in casts,,,


    Just look at the direction of migration. People are free to leave the
    US, but millions are fighting to get in.

    They are fleeing drug cartel wars in their countries,
    attracted by promises of everything better in 'merrica, wind up in secret sweatshops used as slaves with no pay and long
    hours.

    No. Just no.

    ?


    That's another mark of communism: people are not allowed to leave.

    If you want to leave you can..

    Lots of violence in 'merrica, guns...

    Most people never get involved in violence. Most people here are
    peaceful, helpful, and polite.

    Must have been an other country I was in that named itself 'merrica ;-)


    And 'merrica has become a very unreliable entity to do business with
    make a contract.. next president will nullify it like with Iran.
    VERY unreliable,
    This is coming, at least try reading it:
    https://www.rt.com/business/553099-gold-backed-ruble-gamechanger-west/
    has been in the works for some time (if you could see Russian TV).

    There is a lot more, the US empire is over the hill.

    The US never had an empire.

    Try reading "Poorly Made in China"

    I have lots of stuff from China, from ebay and just things that have 'Made in China' on it.
    No complaints, well there are always minor things, my DVB-S2 satellite tuner has a software bug=
    and I would have written it differently..
    but still using it everyday, was watching snooker on it today.
    Value for money is very very good.
    Much better than an other tuner I had from a western company.

    US businesses are remarkably honest and moral. It's right and it's
    good for business.

    Well, I do not like all the censoring of the big US things like youtube, twitter, etc.
    So much for freedom.

    And sanctioning Huawei because 'it is a danger to national security'
    when in reality it scared the shit out of US manufacturers because it was better and cheaper
    and then forcing the slave countries to also not use Huawei, and not only Huawei
    US Mafia
    Forcing the slave countries to buy that F35 crap, man this week they were flying over my head very low what a noisy thing
    in WW2 airplanes were spotted by their sound. That F35 spectrum is recognizable with some AI tinkering
    some mikes and you get a direction vector, so much for 'stealth'.
    And noise equals losses equals shit design (in short).
    UK has (had) the Harrier, very nice VTOL aircraft, what idiot would replace it with that F35 junk.
    Boris the US puppet?

    I had a nice made in East Germany camera 'Werra', very nice camera
    http://www.cjs-classic-cameras.co.uk/zeiss/werra.html

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to '''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk on Sat Apr 2 13:10:15 2022
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:07:14 +0100, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 30/03/2022 22:44, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >>>> you can think.

    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too

    The British guy who invented cats eyes for road marking certainly did -
    to help him get home after a session in a precarious rural pub.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Shaw




    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botts%27_dots



    --

    I yam what I yam - Popeye

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Mon Apr 4 09:57:16 2022
    On 02/04/2022 21:10, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:07:14 +0100, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 30/03/2022 22:44, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >>>>> you can think.

    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too

    The British guy who invented cats eyes for road marking certainly did -
    to help him get home after a session in a precarious rural pub.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Shaw


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botts%27_dots

    Only about 20 years later then. Passive brass dots in pavements have
    been in the UK since time immemorial as they were used to demarcate
    privately owned land that the public is permitted to walk on by the
    landowner (but not to do some other things). Towns that use to have
    glass Victorian arcades over wide pavements have them in abundance.


    --
    Regards,
    Martin Brown

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Mon Apr 4 10:06:55 2022
    On 02/04/2022 18:39, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 13:17:13 -0400, Ralph Mowery
    <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

    In article <7kpg4hhns7cr9o474u3rkmoadn3afnrpv5@4ax.com>,
    jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com says...

    And look at the US now, compared to Europe and China
    What a sad case US has become, China has 5G and is working on 6G, has little covid,

    Do you trust the Chinese statistics? And they have increasing covid
    because they have created a suceptable population, at great expense.

    The news today said china was on a big lockdown because of the new
    version of the virus.

    Lockdowns just maintain a suceptable population and have bad side
    effects.

    Allowing people to catch Covid doesn't seem to prevent them from
    catching it again as little as 4 months later. UK Covid levels are now
    the highest that they have *ever* been with 1 in 12 of the population
    BA.2 infected and no signs of the summer respite of previous years.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60945452

    Hospital admissions and deaths are rising to worrying levels considering
    at this time the previous year infection levels were 25x lower!

    The government decided this was the perfect time to stop all free
    testing for Covid! How to maximise transmission in one easy step!

    Not surprisingly the number of people testing positive has gone down
    because the number of tests has decreased. It is a very Trumpian way to
    doctor the statistics. One of the major academic research groups into
    the pandemic has also been defunded. Only a cut down version of the ONS
    survey now remains to track the pandemic spread in the UK.

    One unexpected benefit of lockdowns was to reserve an infectable
    population which is now getting much less lethal variants. Given that,
    the best bet is for China now is to let it rip.

    It is only really because of the vaccinations that the new variant is
    less lethal. I met someone over the weekend who was fully triple
    vaccinated and would probably be dead now if he hadn't been. He still
    had badly bruised ribs from coughing and described the headache as like
    having a red hot iron band squeezing your head. He wasn't quite ill
    enough to be hospitalised with it but it must have been very close.

    --
    Regards,
    Martin Brown

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to '''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk on Mon Apr 4 07:29:50 2022
    On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 09:57:16 +0100, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 02/04/2022 21:10, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:07:14 +0100, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 30/03/2022 22:44, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >>>>>> you can think.

    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too

    The British guy who invented cats eyes for road marking certainly did -
    to help him get home after a session in a precarious rural pub.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Shaw


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botts%27_dots

    Only about 20 years later then.

    We had to invent freeways first.



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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to '''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk on Mon Apr 4 07:42:19 2022
    On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 10:06:55 +0100, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 02/04/2022 18:39, John Larkin wrote:
    On Sat, 2 Apr 2022 13:17:13 -0400, Ralph Mowery
    <rmowery42@charter.net> wrote:

    In article <7kpg4hhns7cr9o474u3rkmoadn3afnrpv5@4ax.com>,
    jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com says...

    And look at the US now, compared to Europe and China
    What a sad case US has become, China has 5G and is working on 6G, has little covid,

    Do you trust the Chinese statistics? And they have increasing covid
    because they have created a suceptable population, at great expense.

    The news today said china was on a big lockdown because of the new
    version of the virus.

    Lockdowns just maintain a suceptable population and have bad side
    effects.

    Allowing people to catch Covid doesn't seem to prevent them from
    catching it again as little as 4 months later. UK Covid levels are now
    the highest that they have *ever* been with 1 in 12 of the population
    BA.2 infected and no signs of the summer respite of previous years.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-60945452

    Hospital admissions and deaths are rising to worrying levels considering
    at this time the previous year infection levels were 25x lower!

    The government decided this was the perfect time to stop all free
    testing for Covid! How to maximise transmission in one easy step!

    Not surprisingly the number of people testing positive has gone down
    because the number of tests has decreased. It is a very Trumpian way to >doctor the statistics. One of the major academic research groups into
    the pandemic has also been defunded. Only a cut down version of the ONS >survey now remains to track the pandemic spread in the UK.

    One unexpected benefit of lockdowns was to reserve an infectable
    population which is now getting much less lethal variants. Given that,
    the best bet is for China now is to let it rip.

    It is only really because of the vaccinations that the new variant is
    less lethal.

    Maybe not. Lots of people here are unvaccinated, and we just had a
    giant case spike, presumably prefering the unvacced, but the
    death/case ratio is very low now. Vacs certainly help survivability,
    but this variant seems to be less lethal than previous ones. It's
    mutating into another coronavirus cold.


    I met someone over the weekend who was fully triple
    vaccinated and would probably be dead now if he hadn't been. He still
    had badly bruised ribs from coughing and described the headache as like >having a red hot iron band squeezing your head. He wasn't quite ill
    enough to be hospitalised with it but it must have been very close.


    The US had a very sharp spike and is now at a few per cent of peak and declining.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

    Deaths per case are very low compared to older phases.

    Country-to-country differences seem to have no logical explanation.
    Some of that might be bad measurement. I think we had a testing frenzy
    that is over now; people got bored with testing and with covid in
    general.




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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com on Mon Apr 4 07:48:57 2022
    On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 2:14:44 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 04:43:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 01 Apr 2022 19:34:46 -0700) it happened jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in <1fdf4hh8kb17vfe3u...@4ax.com>:
    On Fri, 01 Apr 2022 17:00:56 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:44:07 -0700) it happened John Robertson <sp...@flippers.com> wrote in <n6GdnfKF5pJFttr_...@giganews.com>:
    On 2022/04/01 7:45 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:40:46 +0100) it happened Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t272tg$mdv$2...@gioia.aioe.org>:
    On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    What a sad case US has become, China has 5G and is working on 6G, has little covid,

    Do you trust the Chinese statistics? And they have increasing covid because they have created a susceptible population, at great expense.

    The main reason Covid-19 is on the rise in China is the more infectious variants that evolved in the rest of the world. If the rest of the world had been as effective at blocking Covid-19 as China was there would have been fewer cases to provide the
    virus the opportunity to mutate.

    Europe does not have a fraction of the debt that US has,

    As if Jan Panteltje would know.

    Sure completion will speed innovation, nothing wrong with that and people owning stuff
    But the US Military Industrial Complex has gone out of control, the leaders are below 100 IQ, the crime is out of control, the infrastructure is falling apart and in the coming nuclear exchange....

    Jan is actually right about the US infrastructure falling apart. US crime isn't all that bad, though they do lock up a ridiculously high proportion of the population not because they have all that many criminals. but because they lock up the ones they
    do catch for a absurdly long times. Makes more money for the privately run bits of the prison system ....

    Ruled by lies and fear US is.

    It's actually great here now. I sure wouldn't prefer to live in China or the Congo or Cuba, or even the Netherlands.

    You'd probably like the Netherlands, once you got used to it. Thomas Paine did. Learning Dutch takes an effort, but it is pretty close to English.

    Just look at the direction of migration. People are free to leave the US, but millions are fighting to get in.

    It's rich and has a fairly high standard of living - not great by first world standards, with crummy and expensive education and no universal health care, but a whole lot better than the third world.

    That's another mark of communism: people are not allowed to leave.

    They seem to manage it anyway. East Germany didn't like having all their expensively trained people lured across to the west, and used draconian measures to slow it down.

    European countries have the same problem with top academics, so Germany has the Leibnitz prizes and the Netherlands has the Spinoza prizes, though that didn't stop

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbert_Dijkgraaf

    getting hired away in July 2012 as the the director and Leon Levy professor at the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, New Jersey, until the Dutrch got him back as the cabinet minister for Education, Culture and Science in the Netherlands
    government in January 2022. He's not only very smart, but also a thoroughly nice guy.

    Throwing money at them is more acceptable than barbed wire and machine guns on the border.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com on Mon Apr 4 07:57:03 2022
    On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 12:30:02 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 09:57:16 +0100, Martin Brown<'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
    On 02/04/2022 21:10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:07:14 +0100, Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
    On 30/03/2022 22:44, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote: >>>>> On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    <snip>

    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too

    The British guy who invented cats eyes for road marking certainly did - >>> to help him get home after a session in a precarious rural pub.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Shaw

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botts%27_dots

    Only about 20 years later then.

    We had to invent freeways first.

    The Germans got there first around, 1935 but they called them Autobahns.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn

    Hitler liked them, but the project had been running for years before he had much influence.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Tom Gardner@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Mon Apr 4 16:12:43 2022
    On 04/04/22 15:29, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 09:57:16 +0100, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 02/04/2022 21:10, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:07:14 +0100, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 30/03/2022 22:44, John Larkin wrote:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote: >>>>>
    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office. >>>>>>>
    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so >>>>>>> you can think.

    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too

    The British guy who invented cats eyes for road marking certainly did - >>>> to help him get home after a session in a precarious rural pub.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Shaw


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botts%27_dots

    Only about 20 years later then.

    We had to invent freeways first.

    Apparently the first freeway in the USA was in 1940. https://ebrary.net/6185/geography/first_freeway_built_united_states

    We don't have a freeways per se, but a near equivalent are
    dual carriageways. The first[1] were built in the 20s, and
    the first dual carriageway bypass was built in 1933. https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/wiki/index.php?title=File:A33_Winchester_bypass_(1933)_-_Coppermine_-_12229.jpg

    [1] excluding /very/ short stretches of Roman roads :)

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  • From Mike Monett@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Mon Apr 4 17:02:11 2022
    jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

    On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 09:57:16 +0100, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    [...]

    The British guy who invented cats eyes for road marking certainly did
    - to help him get home after a session in a precarious rural pub.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Shaw


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botts%27_dots

    Only about 20 years later then.

    We had to invent freeways first.

    You have never lived in Europe or driven on the German Autobann.

    Quote:

    "It was the mayor of Cologne, Konrad Adenauer, who managed to finance and construct the first crossroads-free motorway in 1932 - now the A555 between Cologne and Bonn. The road was 20 kilometers long, and the speed limit was
    120 kilometers per hour, though at the time most cars could only manage 60.
    The Cologne region was said to have the highest volume of traffic in the country. Shortly afterwards, however, the Nazis came to power, and the
    motorway had only been open a few months when it was downgraded to the
    status of "country road". The Nazis decided they wanted to take the credit
    for building the first autobahn."

    "The myth of Hitler's role in building the autobahn" https://www.dw.com/en/the-myth-of-hitlers-role-in-building-the-autobahn/a- 16144981

    Many sections have no speed limit. I bought a brand new Mercedes 500SEL and flew to Stuttgart to pick it up. I was running at the top speed of 140MPH
    and cars would appear in the distance in the rear view mirror. Seconds
    later they would fly past as if I was standing still.

    On a visit to Ludwigshafen, I asked a friend why the insurance rates were
    so low. He replied "There are no survivors."

    It felt strange getting back to the US and driving on the freeway. At the
    speed limit it felt like you could get out and walk faster.

    https://www.encycarpedia.com/mercedes/91-500-sel-saloon






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    MRM

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 4 11:04:12 2022
    On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 17:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
    wrote:

    jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

    On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 09:57:16 +0100, Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    [...]

    The British guy who invented cats eyes for road marking certainly did >>>>> - to help him get home after a session in a precarious rural pub.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Shaw


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botts%27_dots

    Only about 20 years later then.

    We had to invent freeways first.

    You have never lived in Europe or driven on the German Autobann.

    Quote:

    "It was the mayor of Cologne, Konrad Adenauer, who managed to finance and >construct the first crossroads-free motorway in 1932 - now the A555 between >Cologne and Bonn. The road was 20 kilometers long, and the speed limit was >120 kilometers per hour, though at the time most cars could only manage 60. >The Cologne region was said to have the highest volume of traffic in the >country. Shortly afterwards, however, the Nazis came to power, and the >motorway had only been open a few months when it was downgraded to the
    status of "country road". The Nazis decided they wanted to take the credit >for building the first autobahn."

    "The myth of Hitler's role in building the autobahn" >https://www.dw.com/en/the-myth-of-hitlers-role-in-building-the-autobahn/a- >16144981

    Many sections have no speed limit. I bought a brand new Mercedes 500SEL and >flew to Stuttgart to pick it up. I was running at the top speed of 140MPH
    and cars would appear in the distance in the rear view mirror. Seconds
    later they would fly past as if I was standing still.

    On a visit to Ludwigshafen, I asked a friend why the insurance rates were
    so low. He replied "There are no survivors."

    It felt strange getting back to the US and driving on the freeway. At the >speed limit it felt like you could get out and walk faster.

    https://www.encycarpedia.com/mercedes/91-500-sel-saloon

    Around here the average is about 70 or 75 mph when there's no traffic
    clogging things up. In the sierras it can be higher; I've seen
    clusters up to about 90. There is no room for the cops to pull over
    speeders up there.

    My Audi can in theory go 156. I haven't tried that yet.



    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com on Mon Apr 4 11:06:23 2022
    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 18:47:49 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:


    US businesses are remarkably honest and moral. It's right and it's
    good for business.

    Well, I do not like all the censoring of the big US things like youtube, twitter, etc.

    Why rot your brain with that junk?

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From Mike Monett@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Mon Apr 4 18:53:07 2022
    John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 4 Apr 2022 17:02:11 -0000 (UTC), Mike Monett <spamme@not.com>
    wrote:

    [...]

    Many sections have no speed limit. I bought a brand new Mercedes 500SEL
    and flew to Stuttgart to pick it up. I was running at the top speed of >>140MPH and cars would appear in the distance in the rear view mirror. >>Seconds later they would fly past as if I was standing still.

    On a visit to Ludwigshafen, I asked a friend why the insurance rates
    were so low. He replied "There are no survivors."

    It felt strange getting back to the US and driving on the freeway. At
    the speed limit it felt like you could get out and walk faster.

    https://www.encycarpedia.com/mercedes/91-500-sel-saloon

    Around here the average is about 70 or 75 mph when there's no traffic clogging things up. In the sierras it can be higher; I've seen
    clusters up to about 90. There is no room for the cops to pull over
    speeders up there.

    My Audi can in theory go 156. I haven't tried that yet.

    We average around 85 when it's not snowing. Then it drops to around 60
    except when someone collides with someone else. We laugh when a US city
    shuts down with half an inch on the ground. You can't run bald tires in the snow.

    The speed also drops in heavy fog. Usually people are running around 80
    when they hit the fog bank. Many collisions ensue.




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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology. on Tue Apr 5 06:25:39 2022
    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Apr 2022 11:06:23 -0700) it happened John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in <9rcm4hdj57a12jflbdcruobs02v9li1n9u@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 18:47:49 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:


    US businesses are remarkably honest and moral. It's right and it's
    good for business.

    Well, I do not like all the censoring of the big US things like youtube, twitter, etc.

    Why rot your brain with that junk?

    Sounds insulting, cool it!
    I published video about electronic projects on youtube.
    There is a lot of stuff there you can learn from.
    I have used twitter only once and got back feedback from some idiot.
    Putting things on youtube is out for me as it is same login as gmail and because of some silly changes they made I can no longer log in.
    No problem, I can publish stuff and have good control of things on my own web site.

    Elon Musk has bought 10% of twitter shares and I hope he changes policy, they removed Trump,
    maybe things like that can be undone.
    But then deamon-crates will scream...

    Bunch of biden fanatics..
    I read foxnews.com, rt,com, cnn.com, arstecnica,com, tomshardware.com, German news, China news, Dutch news,
    plus watch TV from many places all over the world UK, US, Russia, Cuba, Middle East, China.
    And I read several Usenet newsgroups.

    What do you follow for broadening your view apart from Uncle Joe?

    burb
    removed stupid sig

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com on Tue Apr 5 07:35:30 2022
    On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 06:25:39 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Apr 2022 11:06:23 -0700) it happened John Larkin ><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in ><9rcm4hdj57a12jflbdcruobs02v9li1n9u@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 18:47:49 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:


    US businesses are remarkably honest and moral. It's right and it's
    good for business.

    Well, I do not like all the censoring of the big US things like youtube, twitter, etc.

    Why rot your brain with that junk?

    Sounds insulting, cool it!
    I published video about electronic projects on youtube.

    There is some very good stuff on youtube. I was insulting twitter and
    facebook and, yes, most of youtube.

    Junk food, video games, superhero ultra-violence movies, insane cars
    and motorcycles, are actively evolved to exploit our most primitive
    appetites. SED too.





    There is a lot of stuff there you can learn from.
    I have used twitter only once and got back feedback from some idiot.
    Putting things on youtube is out for me as it is same login as gmail and because of some silly changes they made I can no longer log in.
    No problem, I can publish stuff and have good control of things on my own web site.

    Elon Musk has bought 10% of twitter shares and I hope he changes policy, they removed Trump,
    maybe things like that can be undone.
    But then deamon-crates will scream...

    Bunch of biden fanatics..
    I read foxnews.com, rt,com, cnn.com, arstecnica,com, tomshardware.com, German news, China news, Dutch news,
    plus watch TV from many places all over the world UK, US, Russia, Cuba, Middle East, China.
    And I read several Usenet newsgroups.

    What do you follow for broadening your view apart from Uncle Joe?

    We subscribe to The New York Times, but ads for $12,000 pants and
    $60,000 watches and $100M condos don't broaden my views much. Nor
    their excuses for journalism.

    Real Clear Politics is interesting because they alternate opposing
    links. Nobody else seems to do that.



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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com on Tue Apr 5 07:47:55 2022
    On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 12:35:42 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 06:25:39 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote: >On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Apr 2022 11:06:23 -0700) it happened John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in <9rcm4hdj57a12jflb...@4ax.com>:
    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 18:47:49 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    <snip>

    Real Clear Politics is interesting because they alternate opposing links. Nobody else seems to do that.

    Real Clear Politics has been a pro-Trump propaganda source since 2017.

    John Doe thinks highly of it. Now John Larkin endorse it. Does this means that it has started peddling climate change denial propaganda as well?

    It certainly seems to appeal to the far-right people.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Tue Apr 5 16:22:48 2022
    On a sunny day (Tue, 05 Apr 2022 07:35:30 -0700) it happened jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in <4bko4h50monhud8ptknea3hoc03abhdsa5@4ax.com>:

    On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 06:25:39 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Apr 2022 11:06:23 -0700) it happened John Larkin >><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in >><9rcm4hdj57a12jflbdcruobs02v9li1n9u@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 18:47:49 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:


    US businesses are remarkably honest and moral. It's right and it's >>>>>good for business.

    Well, I do not like all the censoring of the big US things like youtube, twitter, etc.

    Why rot your brain with that junk?

    Sounds insulting, cool it!
    I published video about electronic projects on youtube.

    There is some very good stuff on youtube. I was insulting twitter and >facebook and, yes, most of youtube.

    I dunno, some nice music I got from it too
    Lots of cool physics, lectures by famous scientists
    I think I did see some by Feynman
    oh I have those as pdf too actually
    Roger Penrose, interview, lectures.. google 'penrose youtube'


    Junk food, video games, superhero ultra-violence movies, insane cars
    and motorcycles, are actively evolved to exploit our most primitive >appetites. SED too.

    Well sure, and even skying!


    There is a lot of stuff there you can learn from.
    I have used twitter only once and got back feedback from some idiot. >>Putting things on youtube is out for me as it is same login as gmail and because of some silly changes they made I can no
    longer log in.
    No problem, I can publish stuff and have good control of things on my own web site.

    Elon Musk has bought 10% of twitter shares and I hope he changes policy, they removed Trump,
    maybe things like that can be undone.
    But then deamon-crates will scream...

    Bunch of biden fanatics..
    I read foxnews.com, rt,com, cnn.com, arstecnica,com, tomshardware.com, German news, China news, Dutch news,
    plus watch TV from many places all over the world UK, US, Russia, Cuba, Middle East, China.
    And I read several Usenet newsgroups.

    What do you follow for broadening your view apart from Uncle Joe?

    We subscribe to The New York Times, but ads for $12,000 pants and
    $60,000 watches and $100M condos don't broaden my views much. Nor
    their excuses for journalism.

    Stopped reading that after the elections.


    Real Clear Politics is interesting because they alternate opposing
    links. Nobody else seems to do that.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics

    Their cartoons are sometimes very good: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cartoons-slideshow

    I do not subscribe to any paper why pay for their advertising?

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com on Tue Apr 5 09:30:57 2022
    On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 16:22:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Tue, 05 Apr 2022 07:35:30 -0700) it happened >jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in ><4bko4h50monhud8ptknea3hoc03abhdsa5@4ax.com>:

    On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 06:25:39 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Apr 2022 11:06:23 -0700) it happened John Larkin >>><jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in >>><9rcm4hdj57a12jflbdcruobs02v9li1n9u@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 18:47:49 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>>><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:


    US businesses are remarkably honest and moral. It's right and it's >>>>>>good for business.

    Well, I do not like all the censoring of the big US things like youtube, twitter, etc.

    Why rot your brain with that junk?

    Sounds insulting, cool it!
    I published video about electronic projects on youtube.

    There is some very good stuff on youtube. I was insulting twitter and >>facebook and, yes, most of youtube.

    I dunno, some nice music I got from it too
    Lots of cool physics, lectures by famous scientists
    I think I did see some by Feynman
    oh I have those as pdf too actually
    Roger Penrose, interview, lectures.. google 'penrose youtube'


    Junk food, video games, superhero ultra-violence movies, insane cars
    and motorcycles, are actively evolved to exploit our most primitive >>appetites. SED too.

    Well sure, and even skying!


    There is a lot of stuff there you can learn from.
    I have used twitter only once and got back feedback from some idiot. >>>Putting things on youtube is out for me as it is same login as gmail and because of some silly changes they made I can no
    longer log in.
    No problem, I can publish stuff and have good control of things on my own web site.

    Elon Musk has bought 10% of twitter shares and I hope he changes policy, they removed Trump,
    maybe things like that can be undone.
    But then deamon-crates will scream...

    Bunch of biden fanatics..
    I read foxnews.com, rt,com, cnn.com, arstecnica,com, tomshardware.com, German news, China news, Dutch news,
    plus watch TV from many places all over the world UK, US, Russia, Cuba, Middle East, China.
    And I read several Usenet newsgroups.

    What do you follow for broadening your view apart from Uncle Joe?

    We subscribe to The New York Times, but ads for $12,000 pants and
    $60,000 watches and $100M condos don't broaden my views much. Nor
    their excuses for journalism.

    Stopped reading that after the elections.


    Real Clear Politics is interesting because they alternate opposing
    links. Nobody else seems to do that.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics

    Their cartoons are sometimes very good: >https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cartoons-slideshow

    I do not subscribe to any paper why pay for their advertising?

    My wife likes them. Wives are an expensive hobby.



    --

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com on Tue Apr 5 20:47:19 2022
    On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 2:31:09 AM UTC+10, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 16:22:48 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Tue, 05 Apr 2022 07:35:30 -0700) it happened jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in <4bko4h50monhud8pt...@4ax.com>:
    On Tue, 05 Apr 2022 06:25:39 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Mon, 04 Apr 2022 11:06:23 -0700) it happened John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote bin<9rcm4hdj57a12jflb...@4ax.com>:
    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 18:47:49 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    <snip>

    I do not subscribe to any paper why pay for their advertising?

    My wife likes them. Wives are an expensive hobby.

    Having a wife and kids isn't any kind of hobby. The fact that John Larkin's wife is less silly than John Larkin doesn't come as a surprise. John does come across here as remarkably silly, but he'd have to be more sensible in real life to be as
    successful as he seems to be, and to get people like Phil Hobbs to say nice things about him.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Cydrome Leader@21:1/5 to Mike Monett on Thu Apr 7 23:33:44 2022
    Mike Monett <spamme@not.com> wrote:
    Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    On 30/03/2022 22:44, John Larkin wrote:

    [...]

    Both motor skills and decision making degrade with increased alcohol. >

    I absolutly ski better after one rum+coke.

    Or you think you do. You only have your own perceptions of how well you
    ski until something immovable and absolute like a tree gets in the way.

    [...]

    After I bought my Piper Malibu, N4360V, I flew out to a ranch north of San Francisco where I had dinner and a beer. The meal was fine, but when I got in the plane to fly home, I was astonished at how badly my skills had deteoriated. That was the last time I ever flew after having a drink.

    http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5874208&nseq=0

    How long was this? Current rules, no matter what you fly are 0.04% BAC or
    8 hours since any alcohol consumption, whichever comes first.

    Luckily alcohol doesn't seem to be an issue when it comes to GA accidents.

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  • From Cydrome Leader@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Fri Apr 8 01:21:25 2022
    jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 04:43:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 01 Apr 2022 19:34:46 -0700) it happened >>jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in >><1fdf4hh8kb17vfe3uqhjmhkmlhdf9k6v8h@4ax.com>:

    On Fri, 01 Apr 2022 17:00:56 GMT, Jan Panteltje >>><pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:44:07 -0700) it happened John Robertson >>>><spam@flippers.com> wrote in <n6GdnfKF5pJFttr_nZ2dnUU7-afNnZ2d@giganews.com>:


    On 2022/04/01 7:45 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:40:46 +0100) it happened Martin Brown >>>>>> <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t272tg$mdv$2@gioia.aioe.org>: >>>>>>
    On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-)

    Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
    Cannibals beware!

    https://www.rt.com/russia/553114-ukraine-prisoner-torture-inspections/ >>>>>>

    I love how one of the RT (Russian Truth or Pravda) headlines is "Russia >>>>>wants security guarantees for all European states - Lavrov".

    Which means? Dissolve that pesky NATO so Russia can pick off each >>>>>country individually...

    John ;-#)#

    So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
    Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?

    NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist robbers.
    NATO are just commie haters.


    Makes sense. "Communism" always progresses to rule by thugs, with lots
    of deaths.

    Depends
    Hiroshima Nagasaki nuclear attacks on civilians
    Vietnam Agent Orange used on civilians.
    Iraq depleted uranium used as ammo polluting their land for many many years, civilians
    Afghanistan drones used on civilians
    US capitalism

    Saved billions of lives all around the world.

    The list is much much longer,
    So who are the thugs,

    Stalin, Mao, Xi, Castro, PolPot, Maduro. Tens of millions dead for no
    reason, not even a war.


    And look at the US now, compared to Europe and China
    What a sad case US has become, China has 5G and is working on 6G, has little covid,

    Do you trust the Chinese statistics? And they have increasing covid
    because they have created a suceptable population, at great expense.

    Europe does not have a fraction of the debt that US has,
    Sure completion will speed innovation, nothing wrong with that and people owning stuff
    But the US Military Industrial Complex has gone out of control,
    the leaders are below 100 IQ, the crime is out of control,
    the infrastructure is falling apart and in the coming nuclear exchange.... >>Ruled by lies and fear US is



    It's actually great here now. I sure wouldn't prefer to live in China
    or the Congo or Cuba, or even the Netherlands.

    Just look at the direction of migration. People are free to leave the
    US, but millions are fighting to get in.

    That's another mark of communism: people are not allowed to leave.

    Yup, I think many forgot or don't even know the berlin wall was made to
    keep the east germans from escaping and not to keep the commies "out" of
    west germany. Anyone that made it over was welcomed. Same with the korean border.

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  • From jaouad zarrabi@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 26 16:15:53 2022
    El viernes, 8 de abril de 2022 a las 3:21:32 UTC+2, Cydrome Leader escribió:
    jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 04:43:27 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 01 Apr 2022 19:34:46 -0700) it happened >>jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in >><1fdf4hh8kb17vfe3u...@4ax.com>:

    On Fri, 01 Apr 2022 17:00:56 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 09:44:07 -0700) it happened John Robertson
    <sp...@flippers.com> wrote in <n6GdnfKF5pJFttr_...@giganews.com>:


    On 2022/04/01 7:45 a.m., Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:40:46 +0100) it happened Martin Brown
    <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote in <t272tg$mdv$2...@gioia.aioe.org>:

    On 01/04/2022 15:32, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    Best is to eat professors. they have the right nutricients ;-) >>>>>>>
    Many humans are unfit for human consumption.
    Cannibals beware!

    https://www.rt.com/russia/553114-ukraine-prisoner-torture-inspections/


    I love how one of the RT (Russian Truth or Pravda) headlines is "Russia >>>>>wants security guarantees for all European states - Lavrov".

    Which means? Dissolve that pesky NATO so Russia can pick off each >>>>>country individually...

    John ;-#)#

    So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
    Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?

    NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist robbers.
    NATO are just commie haters.


    Makes sense. "Communism" always progresses to rule by thugs, with lots >>>of deaths.

    Depends
    Hiroshima Nagasaki nuclear attacks on civilians
    Vietnam Agent Orange used on civilians.
    Iraq depleted uranium used as ammo polluting their land for many many years, civilians
    Afghanistan drones used on civilians
    US capitalism

    Saved billions of lives all around the world.

    The list is much much longer,
    So who are the thugs,

    Stalin, Mao, Xi, Castro, PolPot, Maduro. Tens of millions dead for no reason, not even a war.


    And look at the US now, compared to Europe and China
    What a sad case US has become, China has 5G and is working on 6G, has little covid,

    Do you trust the Chinese statistics? And they have increasing covid
    because they have created a suceptable population, at great expense.

    Europe does not have a fraction of the debt that US has,
    Sure completion will speed innovation, nothing wrong with that and people owning stuff
    But the US Military Industrial Complex has gone out of control,
    the leaders are below 100 IQ, the crime is out of control,
    the infrastructure is falling apart and in the coming nuclear exchange.... >>Ruled by lies and fear US is



    It's actually great here now. I sure wouldn't prefer to live in China
    or the Congo or Cuba, or even the Netherlands.

    Just look at the direction of migration. People are free to leave the
    US, but millions are fighting to get in.

    That's another mark of communism: people are not allowed to leave.
    Yup, I think many forgot or don't even know the berlin wall was made to
    keep the east germans from escaping and not to keep the commies "out" of west germany. Anyone that made it over was welcomed. Same with the korean border.
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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Fri Aug 26 21:13:28 2022
    On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 10:01:32 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
    Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?

    NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist robbers. NATO are just commie haters.

    US is just sending its CIA agent warmongers all over the world to create wars and sell weapons

    That's a real hodgepodge of dismissive half-truths, there.
    US does't 'sell weapons' indiscriminately. Time was, USSR was fighting Nazis in german
    uniforms, and they got US material support of the lend/lease type. Nowadays, Russia is trying
    to claim a similar mission, but the US isn't buying the story.

    NATO is an alliance, not a hate group; NATO doesn't have pawn-like attributes, either.

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Fri Aug 26 21:23:07 2022
    On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 9:44:04 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    Hiroshima Nagasaki nuclear attacks on civilians

    No, Tokyo would have been the place to hit lots of civilians; those
    chosen coastal towns were supporting the Japanese navy

    Vietnam Agent Orange used on civilians.

    That's a weed killer, not 'used on civilians'

    Iraq depleted uranium used as ammo

    ... antitank armor-piercing, and a heavy-metal poison a lot like old lead paint was

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  • From John Walliker@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 27 03:34:14 2022
    On Saturday, 27 August 2022 at 05:23:11 UTC+1, whit3rd wrote:
    On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 9:44:04 PM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    Hiroshima Nagasaki nuclear attacks on civilians
    No, Tokyo would have been the place to hit lots of civilians; those
    chosen coastal towns were supporting the Japanese navy
    Vietnam Agent Orange used on civilians.
    That's a weed killer, not 'used on civilians'
    The problem was that it was contaminated with dioxins and when sprayed
    from aircraft it inevitably landed on people.
    Iraq depleted uranium used as ammo
    ... antitank armor-piercing, and a heavy-metal poison a lot like old lead paint was

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 27 14:43:00 2022
    whit3rd wrote:
    On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 10:01:32 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
    Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?

    NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist robbers.
    NATO are just commie haters.

    US is just sending its CIA agent warmongers all over the world to create wars and sell weapons

    That's a real hodgepodge of dismissive half-truths, there.
    US does't 'sell weapons' indiscriminately. Time was, USSR was fighting Nazis in german
    uniforms, and they got US material support of the lend/lease type. Nowadays, Russia is trying
    to claim a similar mission, but the US isn't buying the story.

    NATO is an alliance, not a hate group; NATO doesn't have pawn-like attributes, either.


    You guys keep falling for Jan's trolling. He says off-the-wall stuff,
    you guys explode, he laughs and keeps doing it.

    It's been going on for years and years now.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

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  • From Dimiter_Popoff@21:1/5 to Phil Hobbs on Sun Aug 28 02:14:18 2022
    On 8/27/2022 21:43, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    whit3rd wrote:
    On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 10:01:32 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
    Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?

    NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist
    robbers.
    NATO are just commie haters.

    US is just sending its CIA agent warmongers all over the world to
    create wars and sell weapons

    That's a real hodgepodge of dismissive half-truths, there.
    US does't 'sell weapons' indiscriminately.   Time was, USSR was
    fighting Nazis in german
    uniforms, and they got US material support of the lend/lease type.
    Nowadays, Russia is trying
    to claim a similar mission, but the US isn't buying the story.

    NATO is an alliance, not a hate group; NATO doesn't have pawn-like
    attributes, either.


    You guys keep falling for Jan's trolling.  He says off-the-wall stuff,
    you guys explode, he laughs and keeps doing it.

    It's been going on for years and years now.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    Indeed so, but he believes most if not all of it.
    I know it looks crazy to you to a point of just not being plausible
    but trust me, this is the case. I know a few other people who are
    not stupid at all, have decent knowledge in our field etc. and are
    completely brainwashed by the Russian propaganda nonsense in the
    same way.

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  • From Ricky@21:1/5 to lang...@fonz.dk on Sat Aug 27 20:12:17 2022
    On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-4, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 20.52.28 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:
    Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 19.17.18 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
    <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen >>>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin: >>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at >>>>>>>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office. >>>>>>>>
    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.

    unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
    The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
    sub-0.1%.

    What would "per mil" mean?

    parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille

    here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months >>> to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice


    Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.

    should have been a "‰" so 0.05% 0.12%


    You get fined a month's income for 0.05%? That's pretty draconian.
    just looked it up, it's multiplied by the per mille, so half a month's income for 0.05%
    a months income for 0.1%

    What do they do if you have no income, just wealth?


    I think 0.5 permille is the limit in most of Europe
    One
    drink can get you there. (Not at my body mass, of course.)
    yeh, one or two drinks. Simpler to just not drink at all if driving

    The UK TV shows seem to indicate that's the case. I've never gotten anyone to tell me what the law actually says.

    --

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  • From Ricky@21:1/5 to lang...@fonz.dk on Sat Aug 27 20:08:56 2022
    On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 12:01:16 PM UTC-4, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at
    brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office.

    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.

    unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
    The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is
    sub-0.1%.

    What would "per mil" mean?
    parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille

    here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months
    to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice

    Please refresh my memory. Where is "here"?

    --

    Rick C.

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  • From Ricky@21:1/5 to bitrex on Sat Aug 27 20:17:12 2022
    On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 4:02:39 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
    On 3/31/2022 3:48 PM, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 20.52.28 UTC+2 skrev Phil Hobbs:
    Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 19.17.18 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
    On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 09:01:11 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen >>>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    torsdag den 31. marts 2022 kl. 01.02.30 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin: >>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 15:11:25 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen >>>>>> <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote:

    onsdag den 30. marts 2022 kl. 23.44.35 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin: >>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2022 16:36:19 -0400, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/30/2022 3:40 PM, John Larkin wrote:

    https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/brainstorming-over-beers-does-alcohol-fuel-creativity-annie-grace

    I think google or Apple or someone big provides alcohol at >>>>>>>>>> brainstorming meetings. I keep a bottle of good rum in my office. >>>>>>>>>>
    This

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0316453382

    talks about using alcohol to get your frontal cortex out of the way so
    you can think.



    I hear some figure they drive better that way, too
    That's possible, at the sub-0.1% level.

    unless you really meant to write per mil not per cent you are way off
    The legal BAC limit for driving is 0.08% in California. That is >>>>>> sub-0.1%.

    What would "per mil" mean?

    parts per 1000, like percent is parts per 100
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Per_mille

    here 0.5-1.2% is a fine of a months net income and you have 3 months >>>>> to redo your drivers license test, both theory and practice


    Seems like a waste of legislation. 1% is usually fatal.

    should have been a "‰" so 0.05% 0.12%


    You get fined a month's income for 0.05%? That's pretty draconian.

    just looked it up, it's multiplied by the per mille, so half a month's income for 0.05%
    a months income for 0.1%

    I think 0.5 permille is the limit in most of Europe

    One
    drink can get you there. (Not at my body mass, of course.)

    yeh, one or two drinks. Simpler to just not drink at all if driving
    Most bars in the US would go out of business if people couldn't drive to
    get there.

    I think not. We are just used to what we do. When I was a kid, some guys I was working for talked about one Friday night when they were driving around drinking. They were hitting the hard stuff and even tossed an empty out to hit a road sign. That
    was when the red lights came on (no one used blue back then). The cop checked the IDs and said, "Maybe you boys should head home and sober up tonight." That was all.

    --

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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to All on Sun Aug 28 19:46:15 2022
    Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
    On 8/27/2022 21:43, Phil Hobbs wrote:
    whit3rd wrote:
    On Friday, April 1, 2022 at 10:01:32 AM UTC-7, Jan Panteltje wrote:

    So the ukrainian nazis have a carte blanche from you?
    Bit like US accused Germany of in WW2?

    NATO has changed from a defense club to a pawn of the US imperialist
    robbers.
    NATO are just commie haters.

    US is just sending its CIA agent warmongers all over the world to
    create wars and sell weapons

    That's a real hodgepodge of dismissive half-truths, there.
    US does't 'sell weapons' indiscriminately.   Time was, USSR was
    fighting Nazis in german
    uniforms, and they got US material support of the lend/lease type.
    Nowadays, Russia is trying
    to claim a similar mission, but the US isn't buying the story.

    NATO is an alliance, not a hate group; NATO doesn't have pawn-like
    attributes, either.


    You guys keep falling for Jan's trolling.  He says off-the-wall stuff,
    you guys explode, he laughs and keeps doing it.

    It's been going on for years and years now.

    Indeed so, but he believes most if not all of it.
    I know it looks crazy to you to a point of just not being plausible
    but trust me, this is the case. I know a few other people who are
    not stupid at all, have decent knowledge in our field etc. and are
    completely brainwashed by the Russian propaganda nonsense in the
    same way.

    Maybe so, but why do you care? The likelihood of changing the thinking
    of an old guy who lives over 1000 miles from you isn't especially large.

    Plus being an underdog doesn't make you a saint.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

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