• OT: Simplest cell

    From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 23 19:43:43 2022
    I've just got the March 7 2022 New Yorker.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/03/07/a-journey-to-the-center-of-our-cells

    It mentions the Crag Venter "simplest cell" work and talks about what has gone on since.

    Nothing earth-shaking, but there has been some progress. It's pitched at the John Larkin level (or perhaps a little higher).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to William Sloman on Thu Mar 24 07:16:04 2022
    On a sunny day (Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:43:43 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <ae1aa24c-00ca-42d7-b191-7e36257daefan@googlegroups.com>:

    I've just got the March 7 2022 New Yorker.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/03/07/a-journey-to-the-center-of-our-cells

    It mentions the Crag Venter "simplest cell" work and talks about what has gone on since.

    Nothing earth-shaking, but there has been some progress. It's pitched at the John Larkin level (or perhaps a little higher).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    <quote>
    The discovery requires a shift in our basic ideas about cellular life.
    For decades, biologists had assumed that activity in the cytoplasm was essentially random;
    the cellular world churned with such dramatic speed that the right proteins would eventually bump into one another.
    But it turned out that some molecules in the cytoplasm weren't randomly circulating.
    They were swirling in ways that brought related parties together.
    ...
    <end quote>

    Exactly, just like atoms and molecules forming.

    All is conscious.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Thu Mar 24 00:31:14 2022
    On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 6:17:05 PM UTC+11, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:43:43 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in <ae1aa24c-00ca-42d7...@googlegroups.com>:
    I've just got the March 7 2022 New Yorker.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/03/07/a-journey-to-the-center-of-our-cells

    It mentions the Crag Venter "simplest cell" work and talks about what has gone on since.

    Nothing earth-shaking, but there has been some progress. It's pitched at the John Larkin level (or perhaps a little higher).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    <quote>
    The discovery requires a shift in our basic ideas about cellular life.
    For decades, biologists had assumed that activity in the cytoplasm was essentially random;
    the cellular world churned with such dramatic speed that the right proteins would eventually bump into one another.
    But it turned out that some molecules in the cytoplasm weren't randomly circulating.
    They were swirling in ways that brought related parties together.
    ...
    <end quote>

    Exactly, just like atoms and molecules forming.

    All is conscious.

    Rubbish. If the molecules involved have structural features that let them bond weakly so they tended to stick together to some extent when they did come in contact, they will stay in contact for longer. There's nothing conscious about it.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Thu Mar 24 08:44:37 2022
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    Bozo likes Eddie.

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    I've just got the March 7 2022 New Yorker.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/03/07/a-journey-to-the-center-of-our-cells

    It mentions the Crag Venter "simplest cell" work and talks about what has gone on since.

    Nothing earth-shaking, but there has been some progress. It's pitched at the John Larkin level (or perhaps a little higher).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney



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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Thu Mar 24 08:44:58 2022
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    Pop goes the Eddie...

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    On a sunny day (Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:43:43 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <ae1aa24c-00ca-42d7-b191-7e36257daefan@googlegroups.com>:

    I've just got the March 7 2022 New Yorker.
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/03/07/a-journey-to-the-center-of-our-cells

    It mentions the Crag Venter "simplest cell" work and talks about what has gone on since.

    Nothing earth-shaking, but there has been some progress. It's pitched at the John Larkin level (or perhaps a little higher).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    <quote>
    The discovery requires a shift in our basic ideas about cellular life.
    For decades, biologists had assumed that activity in the cytoplasm was essentially random;
    the cellular world churned with such dramatic speed that the right proteins would eventually bump into one another.
    But it turned out that some molecules in the cytoplasm weren't randomly circulating.
    They were swirling in ways that brought related parties together.
    ...
    <end quote>

    Exactly, just like atoms and molecules forming.

    All is conscious.




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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Thu Mar 24 08:45:16 2022
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    What part of Eddie don't you understand?

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    Subject: Re: OT: Simplest cell
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    On Thursday, March 24, 2022 at 6:17:05 PM UTC+11, Jan Panteltje wrote:
    On a sunny day (Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:43:43 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony >> William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in
    <ae1aa24c-00ca-42d7...@googlegroups.com>:
    I've just got the March 7 2022 New Yorker.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/03/07/a-journey-to-the-center-of-our-cells

    It mentions the Crag Venter "simplest cell" work and talks about what has gone on since.

    Nothing earth-shaking, but there has been some progress. It's pitched at the John Larkin level (or perhaps a little higher).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney
    <quote>
    The discovery requires a shift in our basic ideas about cellular life.
    For decades, biologists had assumed that activity in the cytoplasm was essentially random;
    the cellular world churned with such dramatic speed that the right proteins would eventually bump into one another.
    But it turned out that some molecules in the cytoplasm weren't randomly circulating.
    They were swirling in ways that brought related parties together.
    ...
    <end quote>

    Exactly, just like atoms and molecules forming.

    All is conscious.

    Rubbish. If the molecules involved have structural features that let them bond weakly so they tended to stick together to some extent when they did come in contact, they will stay in contact for longer. There's nothing conscious about it.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 24 08:59:25 2022
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 24 Mar 2022 08:44:37 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1hb1k$luo$4@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 54.5% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    xMvTGiHVHrtg

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Thu Mar 24 10:06:54 2022
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    Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

    Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
    except when it got a severe spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    Is the stalker a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

    See also...
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

    Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

    Spanked Eddie...

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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 24 Mar 2022 08:44:58 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1hb2a$luo$5@dont-email.me>).

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    AmLRfUP5l3jL




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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 24 10:28:12 2022
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 24 Mar 2022 10:06:40 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1hfrf$h0m$8@dont-email.me>.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

    PtS8JO01uzxG

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 24 10:34:16 2022
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    "Double your pleasure, double your fun... la la la"

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com on Thu Mar 24 08:38:42 2022
    On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 07:16:04 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:43:43 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony >William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in ><ae1aa24c-00ca-42d7-b191-7e36257daefan@googlegroups.com>:

    I've just got the March 7 2022 New Yorker.
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/03/07/a-journey-to-the-center-of-our-cells

    It mentions the Crag Venter "simplest cell" work and talks about what has gone on since.

    Nothing earth-shaking, but there has been some progress. It's pitched at the John Larkin level (or perhaps a little higher).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    <quote>
    The discovery requires a shift in our basic ideas about cellular life.
    For decades, biologists had assumed that activity in the cytoplasm was essentially random;
    the cellular world churned with such dramatic speed that the right proteins would eventually bump into one another.
    But it turned out that some molecules in the cytoplasm weren't randomly circulating.
    They were swirling in ways that brought related parties together.
    ...
    <end quote>

    Exactly, just like atoms and molecules forming.


    Of course, there's a lot more information in a cell than the central
    DNA carries. Mitochondria, fibers, all sort of stuff that has to be
    reproduced when a cell divides. That gets crazy complex too.



    --

    I yam what I yam - Popeye

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com on Thu Mar 24 18:43:32 2022
    On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 2:38:52 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 07:16:04 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:43:43 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in <ae1aa24c-00ca-42d7...@googlegroups.com>:

    I've just got the March 7 2022 New Yorker.
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/03/07/a-journey-to-the-center-of-our-cells

    It mentions the Crag Venter "simplest cell" work and talks about what has gone on since.

    Nothing earth-shaking, but there has been some progress. It's pitched at the John Larkin level (or perhaps a little higher).

    <quote>
    The discovery requires a shift in our basic ideas about cellular life.
    For decades, biologists had assumed that activity in the cytoplasm was essentially random;
    the cellular world churned with such dramatic speed that the right proteins would eventually bump into one another.
    But it turned out that some molecules in the cytoplasm weren't randomly circulating.
    They were swirling in ways that brought related parties together.
    ...
    <end quote>

    Exactly, just like atoms and molecules forming.

    Of course, there's a lot more information in a cell than the central
    DNA carries. Mitochondria, fibers, all sort of stuff that has to be reproduced when a cell divides. That gets crazy complex too.

    Mitochondria have their own DNA (not a lot), and we get ours from the egg, not the sperm. It is routinely sequenced.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

    Everything else is fixed by the regular diploid DNA, so there's not a lot of complication there - more than John Larkin can get his head around, but not a lot.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Fri Mar 25 05:30:08 2022
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    But...

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    On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 07:16:04 GMT, Jan Panteltje
    <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On a sunny day (Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:43:43 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony >>William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in >><ae1aa24c-00ca-42d7-b191-7e36257daefan@googlegroups.com>:

    I've just got the March 7 2022 New Yorker.
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/03/07/a-journey-to-the-center-of-our-cells

    It mentions the Crag Venter "simplest cell" work and talks about what has gone on since.

    Nothing earth-shaking, but there has been some progress. It's pitched at the John Larkin level (or perhaps a little higher).

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

    <quote>
    The discovery requires a shift in our basic ideas about cellular life.
    For decades, biologists had assumed that activity in the cytoplasm was essentially random;
    the cellular world churned with such dramatic speed that the right proteins would eventually bump into one another.
    But it turned out that some molecules in the cytoplasm weren't randomly circulating.
    They were swirling in ways that brought related parties together.
    ...
    <end quote>

    Exactly, just like atoms and molecules forming.


    Of course, there's a lot more information in a cell than the central
    DNA carries. Mitochondria, fibers, all sort of stuff that has to be reproduced when a cell divides. That gets crazy complex too.



    --

    I yam what I yam - Popeye


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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Fri Mar 25 05:30:33 2022
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    Bozo loves Nazis and Edward Hernandez.

    --
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    On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 2:38:52 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 07:16:04 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:43:43 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in <ae1aa24c-00ca-42d7...@googlegroups.com>:

    I've just got the March 7 2022 New Yorker.

    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/03/07/a-journey-to-the-center-of-our-cells

    It mentions the Crag Venter "simplest cell" work and talks about what has gone on since.

    Nothing earth-shaking, but there has been some progress. It's pitched at the John Larkin level (or perhaps a little higher).

    <quote>
    The discovery requires a shift in our basic ideas about cellular life.
    For decades, biologists had assumed that activity in the cytoplasm was essentially random;
    the cellular world churned with such dramatic speed that the right proteins would eventually bump into one another.
    But it turned out that some molecules in the cytoplasm weren't randomly circulating.
    They were swirling in ways that brought related parties together.
    ...
    <end quote>

    Exactly, just like atoms and molecules forming.

    Of course, there's a lot more information in a cell than the central
    DNA carries. Mitochondria, fibers, all sort of stuff that has to be
    reproduced when a cell divides. That gets crazy complex too.

    Mitochondria have their own DNA (not a lot), and we get ours from the egg, not the sperm. It is routinely sequenced.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

    Everything else is fixed by the regular diploid DNA, so there's not a lot of complication there - more than John Larkin can get his head around, but not a lot.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 25 05:55:28 2022
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 25 Mar 2022 05:30:08 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1jk10$ojk$7@dont-email.me>.

    zkvM4FSmUD3n

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Fri Mar 25 11:54:10 2022
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    Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

    Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
    except when it got a severe spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    Is the stalker a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

    See also...
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

    Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

    Spanked Eddie...

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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Fri, 25 Mar 2022 05:30:33 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1jk1p$ojk$8@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 55.1% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    /KdRuTl+Q2d8




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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 25 12:24:41 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Fri, 25 Mar 2022 11:54:22 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1kahd$qj4$4@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 55.3% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    ExKH1Pl9hvVE

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Fri Mar 25 06:19:36 2022
    On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 4:30:15 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 07:16:04 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonSt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:43:43 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Anthony >>William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in <ae1aa24c-00ca-42d7...@googlegroups.com>:

    I've just got the March 7 2022 New Yorker.
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/03/07/a-journey-to-the-center-of-our-cells

    It mentions the Crag Venter "simplest cell" work and talks about what has gone on since.

    Nothing earth-shaking, but there has been some progress. It's pitched at the John Larkin level (or perhaps a little higher).

    <quote>
    The discovery requires a shift in our basic ideas about cellular life. >>For decades, biologists had assumed that activity in the cytoplasm was essentially random;
    the cellular world churned with such dramatic speed that the right proteins would eventually bump into one another.
    But it turned out that some molecules in the cytoplasm weren't randomly circulating.
    They were swirling in ways that brought related parties together.
    ...
    <end quote>

    Exactly, just like atoms and molecules forming.

    Far from it. The molecular associations that bring the molecules discussed together are much weaker than regular chemical bonds - more like hydrogen bonds.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrogen_bond

    Of course, there's a lot more information in a cell than the central
    DNA carries. Mitochondria, fibers, all sort of stuff that has to be reproduced when a cell divides. That gets crazy complex too.

    John Larkin did get one thing right - mitochondria do carry their own DNA (though not much of it)and it is only passed through the female.

    Everything else is programmed by the regular diploid DNA in the nucleus. It's all complicated, but it is programmed by the DNA. Any craziness comes John Larkin's inadequate and superficial grasp if what is going on

    But...

    And John Doe can only say "but". One has to wonder why he bothers - but he does seem to have this compulsion to post something even when even he should be able to realise that it's a waste of bandwidth.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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