In the US, there has been a lot of isn't-it-awful coverage about what
Trump said about Putin at CPAC two days after the Ukraine invasion
began.

I don't know how it's being presented in Europe, but the sound-bite
coverage in the US didn't make any sense, given Trumps (admittedly
abrasive) personality, so I looked the speech up on C-Span, to see the
full quote and context.

Here is the specific clip: .<https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5003440/pres-trump-cpac-our-leaders-dumb-affirms-putin-smart>

And C-Span's blurb: 'Former Pres. Trump at CPAC: "Our Leaders Are
Dumb"; Affirms Putin is "Smart"

Former Pres. Trump talks about calling Russian Pres. Putin "smart." He criticizes NATO nations for not being smart & criticizes sanctions,
calling them "a pretty weak statement." He goes on to say that the
"real problem is our leaders are dumb." '


And here is the whole 1.5 hour speech. Note it has a transcript
search function. .<https://www.c-span.org/video/?518150-1/pres-trump-criticizes-nato-nations-amid-russian-invasion-ukraine>

Joe Gwinn


C-Span is a US site dedicated to full and uncut videos of politically significant events and speeches, and is a good reference for finding
the context of those sound-bite quotes.

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Joe Gwinn wrote:

C-Span is a US site dedicated to full and uncut videos of politically significant events and speeches, and is a good reference for finding the context of those sound-bite quotes.

Yep! Since long before the Internet. The organization is biased, but at
least they include government sources.

Used to be we could use the mute button. Nowadays, given digital media,
much less wading through stuff. Also more horse's mouth stuff is
available.

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On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 8:21:48 PM UTC-4, Joe Gwinn wrote:

In the US, there has been a lot of isn't-it-awful coverage about what
Trump said about Putin at CPAC two days after the Ukraine invasion
began.

I don't know how it's being presented in Europe, but the sound-bite
coverage in the US didn't make any sense, given Trumps (admittedly
abrasive) personality, so I looked the speech up on C-Span, to see the
full quote and context.

Here is the specific clip: .<https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5003440/pres-trump-cpac-our-leaders-dumb-affirms-putin-smart>

And C-Span's blurb: 'Former Pres. Trump at CPAC: "Our Leaders Are
Dumb"; Affirms Putin is "Smart"

Former Pres. Trump talks about calling Russian Pres. Putin "smart." He criticizes NATO nations for not being smart & criticizes sanctions,
calling them "a pretty weak statement." He goes on to say that the
"real problem is our leaders are dumb." '

And here is the whole 1.5 hour speech. Note it has a transcript
search function. .<https://www.c-span.org/video/?518150-1/pres-trump-criticizes-nato-nations-amid-russian-invasion-ukraine>

Joe Gwinn

C-Span is a US site dedicated to full and uncut videos of politically significant events and speeches, and is a good reference for finding
the context of those sound-bite quotes.

What different message did you get by listening to the full video?

--

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The real message, Ricksy, the real message.


Rickster <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, March 22, 2022 at 8:21:48 PM UTC-4, Joe Gwinn wrote:

In the US, there has been a lot of isn't-it-awful coverage about what
Trump said about Putin at CPAC two days after the Ukraine invasion
began.

I don't know how it's being presented in Europe, but the sound-bite
coverage in the US didn't make any sense, given Trumps (admittedly
abrasive) personality, so I looked the speech up on C-Span, to see the
full quote and context.

Here is the specific clip:
.<https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5003440/pres-trump-cpac-our-leaders- dumb-affirms-putin-smart>

And C-Span's blurb: 'Former Pres. Trump at CPAC: "Our Leaders Are
Dumb"; Affirms Putin is "Smart"

Former Pres. Trump talks about calling Russian Pres. Putin "smart." He
criticizes NATO nations for not being smart & criticizes sanctions,
calling them "a pretty weak statement." He goes on to say that the
"real problem is our leaders are dumb." '


And here is the whole 1.5 hour speech. Note it has a transcript
search function.
.<https://www.c-span.org/video/?518150-1/pres-trump-criticizes-nato- nations-amid-russian-invasion-ukraine>

Joe Gwinn


C-Span is a US site dedicated to full and uncut videos of politically
significant events and speeches, and is a good reference for finding
the context of those sound-bite quotes.

What different message did you get by listening to the full video?

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On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 20:21:35 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
wrote:

In the US, there has been a lot of isn't-it-awful coverage about what
Trump said about Putin at CPAC two days after the Ukraine invasion
began.

I don't know how it's being presented in Europe, but the sound-bite
coverage in the US didn't make any sense, given Trumps (admittedly
abrasive) personality, so I looked the speech up on C-Span, to see the
full quote and context.

Here is the specific clip: >.<https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5003440/pres-trump-cpac-our-leaders-dumb-affirms-putin-smart>

And C-Span's blurb: 'Former Pres. Trump at CPAC: "Our Leaders Are
Dumb"; Affirms Putin is "Smart"

Former Pres. Trump talks about calling Russian Pres. Putin "smart." He >criticizes NATO nations for not being smart & criticizes sanctions,
calling them "a pretty weak statement." He goes on to say that the
"real problem is our leaders are dumb." '

And here is the whole 1.5 hour speech. Note it has a transcript
search function. >.<https://www.c-span.org/video/?518150-1/pres-trump-criticizes-nato-nations-amid-russian-invasion-ukraine>

Joe Gwinn

C-Span is a US site dedicated to full and uncut videos of politically >significant events and speeches, and is a good reference for finding
the context of those sound-bite quotes.

So it's kind of like a truthful equivalent and counterbalance to
Snopes? That is to be welcomed in this age of disinformation.

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On 23/03/2022 01:21, Joe Gwinn wrote:

In the US, there has been a lot of isn't-it-awful coverage about what
Trump said about Putin at CPAC two days after the Ukraine invasion
began.

I don't know how it's being presented in Europe, but the sound-bite
coverage in the US didn't make any sense, given Trumps (admittedly
abrasive) personality, so I looked the speech up on C-Span, to see the
full quote and context.

In Europe, no one takes Trump seriously now - his comments can be viewed
as light-hearted entertainment without Europeans constantly having to
remind themselves that he is not just a professional moron with no
filters, he was also the POTUS. So his comments on Putin and Ukraine
were shown on the news here in Norway as a little extra - showing that
some things never change.

Basically, he was saying "I'm great, and really smart, and won the
election, which was stolen, and everyone else is stupid, and my friend
Putin proved it by taking Ukraine". In theory, he was talking about
Putin's unjustified (arguably not unprovoked, but definitely
unjustified) invasion of Ukraine. In practice, he was, as always,
talking about his favourite subject - himself.

(One thing to remember, in fairness to Trump, is that these comments
were made at the very start of the invasion when we knew little about
what was going on, and we hadn't seen the level of brutality and
downright evil methods since then.)

Here is the specific clip: .<https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5003440/pres-trump-cpac-our-leaders-dumb-affirms-putin-smart>

And C-Span's blurb: 'Former Pres. Trump at CPAC: "Our Leaders Are
Dumb"; Affirms Putin is "Smart"

Former Pres. Trump talks about calling Russian Pres. Putin "smart." He criticizes NATO nations for not being smart & criticizes sanctions,
calling them "a pretty weak statement." He goes on to say that the
"real problem is our leaders are dumb." '

And here is the whole 1.5 hour speech. Note it has a transcript
search function. .<https://www.c-span.org/video/?518150-1/pres-trump-criticizes-nato-nations-amid-russian-invasion-ukraine>

Joe Gwinn

C-Span is a US site dedicated to full and uncut videos of politically significant events and speeches, and is a good reference for finding
the context of those sound-bite quotes.

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Trump is worth more than this troll's sleazy slave-trading country...


David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 23/03/2022 01:21, Joe Gwinn wrote:

In the US, there has been a lot of isn't-it-awful coverage about what
Trump said about Putin at CPAC two days after the Ukraine invasion
began.

I don't know how it's being presented in Europe, but the sound-bite
coverage in the US didn't make any sense, given Trumps (admittedly
abrasive) personality, so I looked the speech up on C-Span, to see the
full quote and context.

In Europe, no one takes Trump seriously now - his comments can be viewed
as light-hearted entertainment without Europeans constantly having to
remind themselves that he is not just a professional moron with no
filters, he was also the POTUS. So his comments on Putin and Ukraine
were shown on the news here in Norway as a little extra - showing that
some things never change.

Basically, he was saying "I'm great, and really smart, and won the
election, which was stolen, and everyone else is stupid, and my friend
Putin proved it by taking Ukraine". In theory, he was talking about
Putin's unjustified (arguably not unprovoked, but definitely
unjustified) invasion of Ukraine. In practice, he was, as always,
talking about his favourite subject - himself.

(One thing to remember, in fairness to Trump, is that these comments
were made at the very start of the invasion when we knew little about
what was going on, and we hadn't seen the level of brutality and
downright evil methods since then.)

Here is the specific clip:
.<https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5003440/pres-trump-cpac-our-leaders- dumb-affirms-putin-smart>

And C-Span's blurb: 'Former Pres. Trump at CPAC: "Our Leaders Are
Dumb"; Affirms Putin is "Smart"

Former Pres. Trump talks about calling Russian Pres. Putin "smart." He
criticizes NATO nations for not being smart & criticizes sanctions,
calling them "a pretty weak statement." He goes on to say that the
"real problem is our leaders are dumb." '


And here is the whole 1.5 hour speech. Note it has a transcript
search function.
.<https://www.c-span.org/video/?518150-1/pres-trump-criticizes-nato- nations-amid-russian-invasion-ukraine>

Joe Gwinn


C-Span is a US site dedicated to full and uncut videos of politically
significant events and speeches, and is a good reference for finding
the context of those sound-bite quotes.

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On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 2:51:17 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

David Brown <david...@hesbynett.no> wrote:
On 23/03/2022 01:21, Joe Gwinn wrote:

In the US, there has been a lot of isn't-it-awful coverage about what
Trump said about Putin at CPAC two days after the Ukraine invasion
began.

I don't know how it's being presented in Europe, but the sound-bite
coverage in the US didn't make any sense, given Trumps (admittedly
abrasive) personality, so I looked the speech up on C-Span, to see the
full quote and context.

In Europe, no one takes Trump seriously now - his comments can be viewed as light-hearted entertainment without Europeans constantly having to remind themselves that he is not just a professional moron with no filters, he was also the POTUS. So his comments on Putin and Ukraine
were shown on the news here in Norway as a little extra - showing that some things never change.

Basically, he was saying "I'm great, and really smart, and won the election, which was stolen, and everyone else is stupid, and my friend Putin proved it by taking Ukraine". In theory, he was talking about Putin's unjustified (arguably not unprovoked, but definitely
unjustified) invasion of Ukraine. In practice, he was, as always,
talking about his favourite subject - himself.

(One thing to remember, in fairness to Trump, is that these comments
were made at the very start of the invasion when we knew little about
what was going on, and we hadn't seen the level of brutality and
downright evil methods since then.)

<snipped the C-Span links which had ended up in an unhelpful place in the post, as does happen when John Doe posts stuff.>

Trump is worth more than this troll's sleazy slave-trading country...

Trump's net worth is uncertain, but at best he's worth less than 10% of Norway's sovereign wealth fund.

Norway only became an independent country in 1905, long after slave-trading had gone out of fashion. Residents of the areas that finally became Norway probably did go in for some slave trading - no maritime European country didn't but they weren't
famous for it.

Trump value as human being is negligible - down there with John Doe's. He may be a more famous creep, but he's still a creep.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

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Bozo loves Nazis.


Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

"the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
(Bozo paraphrased)

"the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
(Bill Sloman)

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On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 20:21:35 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
wrote:

In the US, there has been a lot of isn't-it-awful coverage about what
Trump said about Putin at CPAC two days after the Ukraine invasion
began.

I don't know how it's being presented in Europe, but the sound-bite
coverage in the US didn't make any sense, given Trumps (admittedly
abrasive) personality, so I looked the speech up on C-Span, to see the
full quote and context.

Here is the specific clip: >.<https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5003440/pres-trump-cpac-our-leaders-dumb-affirms-putin-smart>

And C-Span's blurb: 'Former Pres. Trump at CPAC: "Our Leaders Are
Dumb"; Affirms Putin is "Smart"

Former Pres. Trump talks about calling Russian Pres. Putin "smart." He >criticizes NATO nations for not being smart & criticizes sanctions,
calling them "a pretty weak statement." He goes on to say that the
"real problem is our leaders are dumb." '

And here is the whole 1.5 hour speech. Note it has a transcript
search function. >.<https://www.c-span.org/video/?518150-1/pres-trump-criticizes-nato-nations-amid-russian-invasion-ukraine>

Joe Gwinn

C-Span is a US site dedicated to full and uncut videos of politically >significant events and speeches, and is a good reference for finding
the context of those sound-bite quotes.

There's no reason why source material shouldn't be referenced,
in its coverage, with web resources being as they are.

Expecting to get anything coherent out of Trump is wishfull
thinking, though.

Smart or dumb. Hmmmm.

RL

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On 23/03/22 00:21, Joe Gwinn wrote:

In the US, there has been a lot of isn't-it-awful coverage about what
Trump said about Putin at CPAC two days after the Ukraine invasion
began.

I don't know how it's being presented in Europe, but the sound-bite
coverage in the US didn't make any sense, given Trumps (admittedly
abrasive) personality, so I looked the speech up on C-Span, to see the
full quote and context.

The coverage in the UK tends to ignore Trump since he is the
past, but to be concerned that "Trumpism" has taken over the
Republican Party.

That's arguably unfair on Trump, since that "Trumpism" is more
about reactionary politics facilitated by large money flows and
various dark (as in dark side of the moon) propaganda techniques.

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The cannibal left want to mutilate boys before they reach puberty, to keep
them from developing a physical advantage over girls.

While they point fingers at others for being "evil"...


legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 20:21:35 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net>
wrote:

In the US, there has been a lot of isn't-it-awful coverage about what
Trump said about Putin at CPAC two days after the Ukraine invasion
began.

I don't know how it's being presented in Europe, but the sound-bite >>coverage in the US didn't make any sense, given Trumps (admittedly >>abrasive) personality, so I looked the speech up on C-Span, to see the
full quote and context.

Here is the specific clip: >>.<https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5003440/pres-trump-cpac-our-leaders-dumb- affirms-putin-smart>

And C-Span's blurb: 'Former Pres. Trump at CPAC: "Our Leaders Are
Dumb"; Affirms Putin is "Smart"

Former Pres. Trump talks about calling Russian Pres. Putin "smart." He >>criticizes NATO nations for not being smart & criticizes sanctions,
calling them "a pretty weak statement." He goes on to say that the
"real problem is our leaders are dumb." '


And here is the whole 1.5 hour speech. Note it has a transcript
search function. >>.<https://www.c-span.org/video/?518150-1/pres-trump-criticizes-nato- nations-amid-russian-invasion-ukraine>

Joe Gwinn


C-Span is a US site dedicated to full and uncut videos of politically >>significant events and speeches, and is a good reference for finding
the context of those sound-bite quotes.

There's no reason why source material shouldn't be referenced,
in its coverage, with web resources being as they are.

Expecting to get anything coherent out of Trump is wishfull
thinking, though.

Smart or dumb. Hmmmm.

RL

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So many non-Americans profess to know about Americans, but in fact are
entirely clueless...


Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 23/03/22 00:21, Joe Gwinn wrote:

In the US, there has been a lot of isn't-it-awful coverage about what
Trump said about Putin at CPAC two days after the Ukraine invasion
began.

I don't know how it's being presented in Europe, but the sound-bite
coverage in the US didn't make any sense, given Trumps (admittedly
abrasive) personality, so I looked the speech up on C-Span, to see the
full quote and context.

The coverage in the UK tends to ignore Trump since he is the
past, but to be concerned that "Trumpism" has taken over the
Republican Party.

That's arguably unfair on Trump, since that "Trumpism" is more
about reactionary politics facilitated by large money flows and
various dark (as in dark side of the moon) propaganda techniques.

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On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 9:25:45 AM UTC-5, legg wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 20:21:35 -0400, Joe Gwinn <joeg...@comcast.net>
wrote:

In the US, there has been a lot of isn't-it-awful coverage about what >Trump said about Putin at CPAC two days after the Ukraine invasion
began.

I don't know how it's being presented in Europe, but the sound-bite >coverage in the US didn't make any sense, given Trumps (admittedly >abrasive) personality, so I looked the speech up on C-Span, to see the >full quote and context.

Here is the specific clip: >.<https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5003440/pres-trump-cpac-our-leaders-dumb-affirms-putin-smart>

And C-Span's blurb: 'Former Pres. Trump at CPAC: "Our Leaders Are
Dumb"; Affirms Putin is "Smart"

Former Pres. Trump talks about calling Russian Pres. Putin "smart." He >criticizes NATO nations for not being smart & criticizes sanctions, >calling them "a pretty weak statement." He goes on to say that the
"real problem is our leaders are dumb." '

And here is the whole 1.5 hour speech. Note it has a transcript
search function. >.<https://www.c-span.org/video/?518150-1/pres-trump-criticizes-nato-nations-amid-russian-invasion-ukraine>

Joe Gwinn

C-Span is a US site dedicated to full and uncut videos of politically >significant events and speeches, and is a good reference for finding
the context of those sound-bite quotes.

There's no reason why source material shouldn't be referenced,
in its coverage, with web resources being as they are.

Expecting to get anything coherent out of Trump is wishfull
thinking, though.

If he were in a courtroom, they would just cite him with contempt til he stopped it

Not sure how this will go

mk5000

Wesh, pourquoi tu paniques ?
Apparemment, Jack c'est un kinois (gang, gang), Black Dragon comme Keno (R.A.S) Pas l'temps d'parler chinois (chinois), ta tête, par terre, péno (sauvage)
On n'a peur de personne (fort) à part le Très-Haut--Finish Him
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On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 9:43:39 AM UTC-5, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 23/03/22 00:21, Joe Gwinn wrote:

In the US, there has been a lot of isn't-it-awful coverage about what
Trump said about Putin at CPAC two days after the Ukraine invasion
began.

I don't know how it's being presented in Europe, but the sound-bite coverage in the US didn't make any sense, given Trumps (admittedly abrasive) personality, so I looked the speech up on C-Span, to see the
full quote and context.

The coverage in the UK tends to ignore Trump since he is the
past, but to be concerned that "Trumpism" has taken over the
Republican Party.

That's arguably unfair on Trump, since that "Trumpism" is more
about reactionary politics facilitated by large money flows and
various dark (as in dark side of the moon) propaganda techniques.

Good stuff!

mk5000

You're leaning on a pad and sitting next to you's an easel
You need more colour in your lines
Bro might start slipping if he thinks I'm scared of him
Man wanna battle me? I'mma take care of him--The Centenary
by Toumi

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On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 10:14:04 AM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:

So many non-Americans profess to know about Americans, but in fact are entirely clueless...

No I don’t think they're playing clueless.
I think they are really clueless.

So you are admitting you are not American or that you are clueless

or both

mk5000

It's the last part of the story, first blow of the storm, a massacre into forming
One last nap and he calls it, the last tap was a warning
Take off his mask and he's Rogers, 'cause he was capped in a soldier trapped in his formals--SHORT STORY II
by M&A |

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XPost: free.spam

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 25 Mar 2022 20:24:04 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t1l8d4$2fn$8@dont-email.me>.

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

UZtWtOtLI2Pc

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Some weird nym-shifting troll, used this ID mostly around 2007...

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On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 10:14:04 AM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:

So many non-Americans profess to know about Americans, but in fact are
entirely clueless...

No I donƒ Tt think they're playing clueless.
I think they are really clueless.

So you are admitting you are not American or that you are clueless

or both

mk5000

It's the last part of the story, first blow of the storm, a massacre into forming
One last nap and he calls it, the last tap was a warning
Take off his mask and he's Rogers, 'cause he was capped in a soldier trapped in his formals--SHORT STORY II
by M&A |

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The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 25 Mar 2022 20:26:19 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t1l8hb$2fn$9@dont-email.me>.

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