• OT: Americans balk at Congress giving billions to Ukraine

    From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 17 15:08:22 2022
    https://youtu.be/xhFqNGh5jyY

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS of
    Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either. In other videos,
    Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to Ukraine, especially on
    such short notice. Some, like the above, are resounding, EVERY SINGLE
    COMMENT.

    Gas prices and inflation skyrocketing while we send billions to promote
    the hotbed that's causing gas prices to skyrocket.

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Mar 17 13:18:17 2022
    On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:08:29 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS of
    Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either.

    Spam is a Hormel product, all-American!

    In other videos,
    Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to Ukraine

    Yeah, that's freedom of speech (and video) for you. Everyone has an opinion.

    , especially on such short notice.

    That 'short notice' is due to Putin's deceptive machinations. It's not a convincing
    argument against Ukraine. It's not 'especial' in any sense; it's an emergency.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to John Dope on Thu Mar 17 20:21:03 2022
    John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t0vit5$jl0$1@dont-email.me:

    Gas prices and inflation skyrocketing while we send billions to
    promote the hotbed that's causing gas prices to skyrocket.


    Putin caused the oil price spike, you fucking retard.
    Your brain is a hotbed of utter stupidity.

    You could not be more clueless if you tried.

    At least you were not a total stupid fuck like Ed Lee is. He thinks
    it was Biden. He is more clueless than you are and that is some feat.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to whit3rd@gmail.com on Thu Mar 17 22:46:54 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The vast majority of Americans disagree.

    --
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    On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:08:29 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS of
    Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either.

    Spam is a Hormel product, all-American!

    In other videos,
    Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to Ukraine

    Yeah, that's freedom of speech (and video) for you. Everyone has an opinion.

    , especially on such short notice.

    That 'short notice' is due to Putin's deceptive machinations. It's not a convincing
    argument against Ukraine. It's not 'especial' in any sense; it's an emergency.



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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 17 15:59:33 2022
    On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 13:18:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:08:29 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS of
    Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either.

    Spam is a Hormel product, all-American!

    In other videos,
    Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to Ukraine

    Yeah, that's freedom of speech (and video) for you. Everyone has an opinion.

    They can send a two or three of my billions to defend Ukraine.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc on Thu Mar 17 22:47:35 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The foulmouthed group idiot, a.k.a. Always Wrong...

    --
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    From: DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
    Subject: Re: OT: Americans balk at Congress giving billions to Ukraine
    Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 20:21:03 -0000 (UTC)
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    John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t0vit5$jl0$1@dont-email.me:

    Gas prices and inflation skyrocketing while we send billions to
    promote the hotbed that's causing gas prices to skyrocket.


    Putin caused the oil price spike, you fucking retard.
    Your brain is a hotbed of utter stupidity.

    You could not be more clueless if you tried.

    At least you were not a total stupid fuck like Ed Lee is. He thinks
    it was Biden. He is more clueless than you are and that is some feat.



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 17 23:01:40 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 17 Mar 2022 22:47:35 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t10dq6$pd2$6@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 54.4% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    5Ga/l5+ZW10w

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Thu Mar 17 23:22:13 2022
    You'll need those "billions" for gas...




    John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 13:18:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:08:29 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS of
    Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either.

    Spam is a Hormel product, all-American!

    In other videos,
    Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to Ukraine

    Yeah, that's freedom of speech (and video) for you. Everyone has an opinion.

    They can send a two or three of my billions to defend Ukraine.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Thu Mar 17 23:23:17 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

    Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
    except when it got a severe spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

    See also...
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

    Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

    Spanked Eddie...

    --
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    From: Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: OT: Americans balk at Congress giving billions to Ukraine Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,free.spam
    References: <t0vit5$jl0$1@dont-email.me> <82173555-0264-4502-afe1-aac2a46dd5ecn@googlegroups.com> <t10dou$pd2$5@dont-email.me>
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 17 Mar 2022 22:46:54 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t10dou$pd2$5@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 54.4% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    qIWf0qVdksCb




    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 17 23:40:06 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 17 Mar 2022 23:23:17 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t10ft5$h5h$3@dont-email.me>.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

    oQcK1SLv/dPN

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Mar 17 23:40:31 2022
    Has anybody SEEN Ukrainian officials?

    They look like ZOMBIES.

    I hope Israeli special agent Zelensky gets out alive after
    completing his mission to destroy Ukrainian Nazis.









    John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:

    https://youtu.be/xhFqNGh5jyY

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS of
    Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either. In other videos,
    Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to Ukraine, especially on such short notice. Some, like the above, are resounding, EVERY SINGLE COMMENT.

    Gas prices and inflation skyrocketing while we send billions to promote
    the hotbed that's causing gas prices to skyrocket.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Thu Mar 17 21:03:47 2022
    On 3/17/2022 6:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 13:18:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:08:29 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS of
    Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either.

    Spam is a Hormel product, all-American!

    In other videos,
    Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to Ukraine

    Yeah, that's freedom of speech (and video) for you. Everyone has an opinion.

    They can send a two or three of my billions to defend Ukraine.


    US military spends $800 million every 12 hours. The Biden admin could've
    just filed it in some dusty corner of the budget like a Reagan
    administration and nobody in Congress would've even noticed or cared it
    was missing until well into Trump's fourth non-consecutive term.

    Welp, that's what you get for honesty.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Mar 17 20:58:44 2022
    On 3/17/2022 7:22 PM, John Doe wrote:
    You'll need those "billions" for gas...


    The US military spends $800 million every 12 hours, not that many
    Americans find this particularly outrageous anymore. They probably
    should, though

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Mar 17 19:10:06 2022
    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 9:47:01 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:08:29 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS of
    Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either.

    Spam is a Hormel product, all-American!

    In other videos, Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to Ukraine especially on such short notice.

    Yeah, that's freedom of speech (and video) for you. Everyone has an opinion.

    That 'short notice' is due to Putin's deceptive machinations. It's not a convincing argument against Ukraine. It's not 'especial' in any sense; it's an emergency.

    The vast majority of Americans disagree.

    What John Doe probably means is the vast majority of Americans who are at least stupid as he is - perhaps 5% of the population - are stupid enough to go along with his idiot misapprehensions. He's much too stupid to realise that this is actually what he
    is saying.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Fri Mar 18 02:36:56 2022
    John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in news:o7f73hhoaqkptr3hqvs1bb8icfvaopm10a@4ax.com:

    On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 13:18:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
    <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:08:29 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS
    of Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either.

    Spam is a Hormel product, all-American!

    In other videos,
    Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to Ukraine

    Yeah, that's freedom of speech (and video) for you. Everyone has
    an opinion.

    They can send a two or three of my billions to defend Ukraine.

    "Your billions"? Fuck you. Rubles maybe.

    Nothing you ever did generated billions in tax revenue, nor did any
    of their investments of your tax dollars. Remember, you like Trump specifically because you think he lowered your taxes.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to bitrex on Fri Mar 18 13:46:08 2022
    Whataboutism...



    bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

    On 3/17/2022 6:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 13:18:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:08:29 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS of
    Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either.

    Spam is a Hormel product, all-American!

    In other videos,
    Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to Ukraine

    Yeah, that's freedom of speech (and video) for you. Everyone has an opinion.

    They can send a two or three of my billions to defend Ukraine.


    US military spends $800 million every 12 hours. The Biden admin could've
    just filed it in some dusty corner of the budget like a Reagan
    administration and nobody in Congress would've even noticed or cared it
    was missing until well into Trump's fourth non-consecutive term.

    Welp, that's what you get for honesty.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to bitrex on Fri Mar 18 15:25:24 2022
    bitrex wrote:

    John Doe wrote:

    You'll need those "billions" for gas...

    The US military spends $800 million every 12 hours

    So? Maternity flight suits ain't cheap.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From StupidAs StupidGet@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Fri Mar 18 10:47:36 2022
    On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:37:03 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in news:o7f73hhoaqkptr3hq...@4ax.com:
    On Thu, 17 Mar 2022 13:18:17 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
    <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:08:29 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS
    of Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either.

    Spam is a Hormel product, all-American!

    In other videos,
    Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to Ukraine

    Yeah, that's freedom of speech (and video) for you. Everyone has
    an opinion.

    They can send a two or three of my billions to defend Ukraine.
    "Your billions"? Fuck you. Rubles maybe.

    Nothing you ever did generated billions in tax revenue, nor did any
    of their investments of your tax dollars. Remember, you like Trump specifically because you think he lowered your taxes.

    The AfterTrump White House just print and borrow billions/trillions, you FFF.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to StupidAs StupidGet on Sat Mar 19 01:42:07 2022
    StupidAs StupidGet <buildbetterbilly@gmail.com> wrote in news:a15e108b-07ba-409f-aa28-a187bf7ec7c7n@googlegroups.com:

    The AfterTrump White House just print and borrow
    billions/trillions, you FFF.

    Bullshit. It doe not get any more stupid than a dumbfuck like you.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From StupidAs StupidGet@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Fri Mar 18 19:28:13 2022
    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 6:42:15 PM UTC-7, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    StupidAs StupidGet <buildbet...@gmail.com> wrote in news:a15e108b-07ba-409f...@googlegroups.com:
    The AfterTrump White House just print and borrow
    billions/trillions, you FFF.

    Bullshit. It doe not get any more stupid than a dumbfuck like you.
    We are stupid. We are, we are stupid, stupid.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tabby@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Apr 3 17:34:21 2022
    On Thursday, 17 March 2022 at 15:08:29 UTC, John Doe wrote:
    https://youtu.be/xhFqNGh5jyY

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS of
    Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either. In other videos,
    Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to Ukraine, especially on

    If you don't send em billions it'll end up costing you trillions. It's very much the war that'll stop or spawn WW3.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Tabby on Mon Apr 4 02:53:18 2022
    Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com> wrote:

    John Doe wrote:

    https://youtu.be/xhFqNGh5jyY

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS of
    Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either. In other videos,
    Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to Ukraine, especially
    on

    If you don't send em billions it'll end up costing you trillions. It's
    very much the war that'll stop or spawn WW3.

    That ignores history, geography, and whatever.

    Ukraine's capital is 470 miles from Moscow. That's why Henry Kissinger and other Western diplomats have warned against NATO expanding to Russia's former territories. We Americans wouldn't even let Russia put missiles in Cuba. If a Russian military organization were flirting with Mexico or Canada, we would
    be there. Self-defense is a basic right. NATO needs to back off. Ukraine
    needs to stop flirting with NATO, declare itself NEUTRAL, and stop
    persecuting Russia's sympathetic people in Ukraine.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to John Doe on Mon Apr 4 01:38:12 2022
    On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 7:53:25 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    Ukraine's capital is 470 miles from Moscow. That's why Henry Kissinger and other Western diplomats have warned against NATO expanding to Russia's former territories. ...
    Self-defense is a basic right. NATO needs to back off.

    Not true. NATO countries don't need to relocate themselves.

    Ukraine
    needs to stop flirting with NATO, declare itself NEUTRAL, and stop persecuting Russia's sympathetic people in Ukraine.

    Ukraine is exercising the basic right of self-defense. The sympathetic people of Mariupol are fewer, and less sympathetic, nowadays.

    How can they be 'neutral' during an invasion of their own country?

    Lithuania has the right idea. NATO membership for Ukraine, right after retaking Crimea.

    As for '470 miles from Moscow', Russia can move its capital if that's an issue. But, like Nazis, it isn't a real issue. It's just a verbal haze element.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 4 22:41:57 2022
    I don't know about "whit3rd's" country, but we Americans wouldn't even let Russia put missiles in Cuba. If a Russian military organization were
    expanding to our border countries like Mexico and Canada, we most
    certainly would invade them and put a stop to it.

    That's why the late Henry Kissinger and other diplomats have warned
    against NATO expansion to Russia's border countries.

    If zealous Russian hating adversaries continue to arm Ukraine, there will
    be little left of Ukraine after Russia gets through with it. Russia will
    tear up ALL of Ukraine's railroad tracks so Ukraine will not even be able
    to export its (formerly) massive wheat product.

    Imperialist warmongers act like they couldn't care less about anybody else
    and like they have no knowledge of geography or history. The military-industrial complex has lots of hungry little warmonger babies to
    feed!

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Mon Apr 4 18:39:44 2022
    On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:42:05 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    I don't know about "whit3rd's" country, but we Americans wouldn't even let Russia put missiles in Cuba. If a Russian military organization were expanding to our border countries like Mexico and Canada, we most
    certainly would invade them and put a stop to it.

    You didn't invade Cuba. And Russia's actions in the Ukraine don't have anything to do with Russian national security. Putin's bleating about anxieties about the Ukraine joining NATO is merely a trumped up cover story.

    That's why the late Henry Kissinger and other diplomats have warned against NATO expansion to Russia's border countries.

    Quite awhile ago, and in a rather different context.

    If zealous Russian hating adversaries continue to arm Ukraine, there will
    be little left of Ukraine after Russia gets through with it.

    Dream on. Ukraine isn't getting arms from the rest of the world because the rest of the world hates Russia. The rest of the world likes the Ukraine rather more than they like Russia, and the Ukraine hasn't invaded any of it's neighbours, which generates
    sympathy.

    Russia will tear up ALL of Ukraine's railroad tracks so Ukraine will not even be able to export its (formerly) massive wheat product.

    Why would they do that? They'd be just as enthusiastic about selling Ukraniain wheat to the rest of the world as they were when the Ukraine was part of the USSR. And ripping up railway tracks doesn't stop them from getting rebuilt.

    Imperialist warmongers act like they couldn't care less about anybody else and like they have no knowledge of geography or history.

    That seems to describe Putin pretty exactly. Did you have any other imperialist warmonger in mind?

    The military-industrial complex has lots of hungry little warmonger babies to feed!

    The Ukraine isn't big enough to feed them well. The Soviet military-industrial complex isn't enjoying the current debacle - the weapons the Russian army used in it's attempted invasion of the Ukraine aren't coming across as irresistibly powerful. Too
    many are ending up as burnt out hulks.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Mon Apr 4 20:08:18 2022
    On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 12:28:48 PM UTC+10, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 6:39:48 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:42:05 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:

    <snip>

    Imperialist warmongers act like they couldn't care less about anybody else and like they have no knowledge of geography or history.

    Putin's (and John Doe's) history was very short, around 50 years of USSR. It was only successful in suppression of the slave states, until they wise-up.

    The USSR lasted from about 1920 to about 1990 - that's 70 years. The USSR was a federation, if with one dominant partner. The other republics weren't
    "slave states". They got modernised in the process of being exploited, if not as thoroughly or as expertly as European colonies would have been. They didn't so much wise up as get out from under when Russia fell apart.

    The eastern European satellites were a good deal more advanced when they got taken over by the USSR than the satellites to the south and east of Russia, and they have done better since they got out from under. The Ukraine was part of Russia for a long
    time before the USSR was set up, and was just a modern as the rest of Russia. Stalin came Georgia, which is further east around the Black Sea than the Ukraine, and has had much the same kinds of problems with Russia since 1990. "Slave states" isn't a good description.

    That seems to describe Putin pretty exactly. Did you have any other imperialist warmonger in mind?

    The military-industrial complex has lots of hungry little warmonger babies to feed!
    The Ukraine isn't big enough to feed them well. The Soviet military-industrial complex isn't enjoying the current debacle - the weapons the Russian army used in it's attempted invasion of the Ukraine aren't coming across as irresistibly powerful. Too
    many are ending up as burnt out hulks.

    Russia is using up the last of it's stockpiles in men and weapons. The only thing left is threat of nukes.

    Perhaps, but you may be under-estimating Putin's ingenuity and his fondness for implausible lies.

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Mon Apr 4 19:28:45 2022
    On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 6:39:48 PM UTC-7, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, April 5, 2022 at 8:42:05 AM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:
    I don't know about "whit3rd's" country, but we Americans wouldn't even let Russia put missiles in Cuba. If a Russian military organization were expanding to our border countries like Mexico and Canada, we most certainly would invade them and put a stop to it.
    You didn't invade Cuba. And Russia's actions in the Ukraine don't have anything to do with Russian national security. Putin's bleating about anxieties about the Ukraine joining NATO is merely a trumped up cover story.

    Russia + Ukraine union was an unequal union. Good for Russia and not so good for Ukraine. Putin wants to get back the advantageous relationship. Nothing to do with NATO.

    That's why the late Henry Kissinger and other diplomats have warned against NATO expansion to Russia's border countries.
    Quite awhile ago, and in a rather different context.
    If zealous Russian hating adversaries continue to arm Ukraine, there will be little left of Ukraine after Russia gets through with it.
    Dream on. Ukraine isn't getting arms from the rest of the world because the rest of the world hates Russia. The rest of the world likes the Ukraine rather more than they like Russia, and the Ukraine hasn't invaded any of it's neighbours, which
    generates sympathy.
    Russia will tear up ALL of Ukraine's railroad tracks so Ukraine will not even be able to export its (formerly) massive wheat product.
    Why would they do that? They'd be just as enthusiastic about selling Ukraniain wheat to the rest of the world as they were when the Ukraine was part of the USSR. And ripping up railway tracks doesn't stop them from getting rebuilt.

    Putin might want to get rid of people and properties in his way, but railway is something he wants to keep.

    Imperialist warmongers act like they couldn't care less about anybody else and like they have no knowledge of geography or history.

    Putin's (and John Doe's) history was very short, around 50 years of USSR. It was only successful in suppression of the slave states, until they wise-up.

    That seems to describe Putin pretty exactly. Did you have any other imperialist warmonger in mind?
    The military-industrial complex has lots of hungry little warmonger babies to feed!
    The Ukraine isn't big enough to feed them well. The Soviet military-industrial complex isn't enjoying the current debacle - the weapons the Russian army used in it's attempted invasion of the Ukraine aren't coming across as irresistibly powerful. Too
    many are ending up as burnt out hulks.

    Russia is using up the last of it's stockpiles in men and weapons. The only thing left is threat of nukes.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Tabby on Tue Apr 5 20:57:04 2022
    Tabby <tabbypurr@gmail.com> wrote in news:a022db0f-c446-4441-99e5-c2160277be09n@googlegroups.com:

    On Thursday, 17 March 2022 at 15:08:29 UTC, John Doe wrote:
    https://youtu.be/xhFqNGh5jyY

    Seems to be a pattern. Some videos have, or at least HAD, LOTS of
    Ukrainian spam, not bots but not Americans either. In other
    videos, Americans are flatly rejecting sending billions to
    Ukraine, especially on

    If you don't send em billions it'll end up costing you trillions.
    It's very much the war that'll stop or spawn WW3.


    Somebody gets it. And that somebody is NOT John Dope or any other
    Trump tainted republitard.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to John Dope on Tue Apr 5 21:16:41 2022
    John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t2dmiu$ond$1@dont-email.me:

    Ukraine's capital is 470 miles from Moscow. That's why Henry
    Kissinger and other Western diplomats have warned against NATO
    expanding to Russia's former territories. We Americans wouldn't
    even let Russia put missiles in Cuba.

    They were nukes, you stupid fuck. You logic rests firmly at NIL.

    If a Russian military
    organization were flirting with Mexico or Canada, we would be
    there. Self-defense is a basic right. NATO needs to back off.
    Ukraine needs to stop flirting with NATO, declare itself NEUTRAL,
    and stop persecuting Russia's sympathetic people in Ukraine.

    NATO, nor Ukraine is putting, much less pointing missiles in place
    aimed at Russia.

    The Cuban missile crisis was Russia placing nuclear tipped missile
    batteries in Cuba. BIG DIFFERENCE.

    NATO fits their member nations with DEFENSES, not OFFENSES. They
    put "self defense" mechanisms in place. They did not place ANY
    missile batteries in place and certainly ZERO that were nuclear
    tipped.

    Russia placed thousands of OFFENSIVE troops and invaded a sovereign
    nation, you stupid putz. They have hundreds of operational missile
    silos and many many nations are targetted by them. More proof of just
    how stupid you really are.

    Ukraine is not "persecuting" anyone, you stupid fuck.

    You could not be more stupid if you tried. The CMC compared to
    this is 100% apples and oranges. I'll bet China has missiles pointed
    Russia's way, and I;ll bet they are nukes too. Do you see Russia
    barking at China or invading it? They are way too pussified for that.

    Essentially, you could not be more fucking stupid if you tried.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Tue Apr 5 23:41:33 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:fcda6ff0-a322-41bb-90a6-42b89f3fce34n@googlegroups.com:

    Russia is using up the last of it's stockpiles in men and weapons.
    The only thing left is threat of nukes.


    Damn, you actually got one right. It will not help, however.
    Putin is still toast, and you are still stupid.

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