• OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...

    From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 13 11:46:30 2022
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
    Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

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  • From David Brown@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 13 13:33:01 2022
    On 13/03/2022 12:46, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers...


    You are /way/ behind the times. The Ukrainian government published instructions for making Molotov cocktails some two weeks ago.

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Citizens have every right to oppose an invading army.

    The legalities of what constitutes a war crime are complicated, and I
    don't pretend to know the rules.

    We do know, with a high level of confidence, that the Russian army has
    been committing war crimes during the invasion.


    Dirty laundry...


    War is rarely neat and tidy.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 13 05:25:26 2022
    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 10:46:40 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    John Doe seems to be managing to ignore that fact that the Russians have and shelled and bombed hospitals, which does happen to be a war crime.

    Civilians do seem to react to this kind of provocation by making Molotov cocktails (which are usually intended to be thrown at tanks, rather than individual Russian soldier).

    The media doesn't have all that much influence on the behavior of people who are being attacked by foreign invaders, and it's a bit silly of John Doe to post this kind of nonsense, but he is remarkably consistently silly. And unpleasant with it. A
    thoroughly obnoxious troll.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Lasse Langwadt Christensen@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 13 05:40:12 2022
    s√łndag den 13. marts 2022 kl. 13.33.13 UTC+1 skrev David Brown:
    On 13/03/2022 12:46, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers...

    You are /way/ behind the times. The Ukrainian government published instructions for making Molotov cocktails some two weeks ago.
    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???
    Citizens have every right to oppose an invading army.

    The legalities of what constitutes a war crime are complicated, and I
    don't pretend to know the rules.

    https://lieber.westpoint.edu/are-molotov-cocktails-lawful-weapons/

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to David Brown on Sun Mar 13 13:43:34 2022
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    But of course in reality there is no such thing as a "war crime".

    Who makes "war crime" law? The winner of the last war.

    People who are the best at war determine what "war crimes" are.

    A silly poster...

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    On 13/03/2022 12:46, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
    Russian soldiers...


    You are /way/ behind the times. The Ukrainian government published instructions for making Molotov cocktails some two weeks ago.

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Citizens have every right to oppose an invading army.

    The legalities of what constitutes a war crime are complicated, and I
    don't pretend to know the rules.

    We do know, with a high level of confidence, that the Russian army has
    been committing war crimes during the invasion.


    Dirty laundry...


    War is rarely neat and tidy.


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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 13 06:55:42 2022
    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 12:43:46 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    David Brown <david...@hesbynett.no> wrote:
    On 13/03/2022 12:46, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
    Russian soldiers...


    You are /way/ behind the times. The Ukrainian government published instructions for making Molotov cocktails some two weeks ago.

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Citizens have every right to oppose an invading army.

    The legalities of what constitutes a war crime are complicated, and I
    don't pretend to know the rules.

    We do know, with a high level of confidence, that the Russian army has
    been committing war crimes during the invasion.

    Dirty laundry...


    War is rarely neat and tidy.

    But of course in reality there is no such thing as a "war crime".

    Tell that to the International Court of Justice at The Hague. They've been prosecuting them for years now.

    Who makes "war crime" law? The winner of the last war.

    The crimes committed in the wars between the bits of the former Yugoslavia weren't prosecuted by the winning side there, but by the International Court of Justice at The Hague.

    People who are the best at war determine what "war crimes" are.

    Not any longer.

    A silly poster...

    On the contrary, one who hasn't had his head stuck up his bottom since the Nuremberg war crimes trials ended in 1949. John Doe is the foolish poster here, not for the first time.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 13 13:57:45 2022
    Encouraging civilians to confront an approaching army is EXTREMELY if not CRIMINALLY careless. That gives invaders an excuse to fire on civilians.

    Fortunately for those poor misled Ukrainians, Russia couldn't care less about guerrilla warfare. Russia's interest is stopping NATO's ORGANIZED aggression.

    Has anybody asked the millions of Ukrainian refugees whether they would have rather surrendered so they could have stayed in their homes?

    Can we provide enough aid so that it's like a vacation?





    John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:

    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Sun Mar 13 13:58:17 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

    Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
    except when it got a severe spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

    See also...
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

    Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

    Spanked Eddie...

    --
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sun, 13 Mar 2022 13:43:34 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t0kse6$gjo$3@dont-email.me>.

    Uxa7PafZgviY




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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 13 13:59:12 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Sun, 13 Mar 2022 13:58:17 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t0kt9p$5ua$2@dont-email.me>).

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    pCD3kBdmAjwt

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Sun Mar 13 14:02:02 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    It's kind of neat IMO how I can make you do tricks, Eddie.

    You're the first stalker/troll I have run into that doesn't THINK.




    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Sun, 13 Mar 2022 13:58:17 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t0kt9p$5ua$2@dont-email.me>).

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    pCD3kBdmAjwt



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 13 13:50:57 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sun, 13 Mar 2022 13:43:34 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t0kse6$gjo$3@dont-email.me>.

    Uxa7PafZgviY

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 13 13:58:53 2022
    Bozo is one of my biggest fans.


    Bozo Bill Sloman is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be
    reasoned with...

    "the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
    (Bozo paraphrased)

    "the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
    (Bill Sloman)

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 13 07:21:32 2022
    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 12:57:57 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:

    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    Encouraging civilians to confront an approaching army is EXTREMELY if not CRIMINALLY careless. That gives invaders an excuse to fire on civilians.

    When the invader is already shelling and bombing hospitals, they don't seem to need much excuse to fire on civilians.

    Fortunately for those poor misled Ukrainians, Russia couldn't care less about guerrilla warfare. Russia's interest is stopping NATO's ORGANIZED aggression.

    Not that NATO has organised any aggressive move yet. Putin has organised quite enough of them to frighten the former satellites into badly wanting to get under the NATO umbrella, which has been protecting western Europe since 1949.

    This probably counts as passive aggression from John Doe's bizarre point of view.

    Has anybody asked the millions of Ukrainian refugees whether they would have rather surrendered so they could have stayed in their homes?

    Their menfolk have actually stayed in their homes to fight the Russians. It's not the kind of question a sensible reporter would ask.

    Can we provide enough aid so that it's like a vacation?

    Few vacation spots can accommodate a million or so refugees at short notice, and getting them to anything that might look like a vacation spot would tie up a lot of transport, so the answer seems to be no.

    John Doe needs to raise his game to the point where he could seen as a half-wit. At the moment he'd rate as brain dead.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 13 11:30:23 2022
    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:43:46 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    But of course in reality there is no such thing as a "war crime".

    Who makes "war crime" law? The winner of the last war.

    Well, no. In the case of WW II Germany, it was prosecution under German
    law that was definitive. If it was illegal under German law to round up
    a few dozen citizens and execute them without trial, then it was illegal
    in German-held territories. Effective war tactics, while brutal, were
    not found to be illegal (notably, Otto Skorzeny was not prosecuted for war crimes).

    There are treaties on treatment of prisoners of war, for example, that
    are also enforceable law. There are US examples of conviction of US
    military jailers for such things, from Iraq.

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 13 11:50:28 2022
    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:57:57 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    Encouraging civilians to confront an approaching army is EXTREMELY if not CRIMINALLY careless. That gives invaders an excuse to fire on civilians.

    Alas, that's correct. The range and accuracy of a 'cocktail' doesn't impress
    a rifle-equipped soldier.

    Fortunately for those poor misled Ukrainians, Russia couldn't care less about guerrilla warfare. Russia's interest is stopping NATO's ORGANIZED aggression.

    Aggression is not an event, it's an attitude. You can paint that attitude onto
    anyone or anything, in your imagination. Facts, events, do not support that assertion.
    NATO is organized: true.
    NATO is aggressive: huh? It's a defense alliance.

    As for 'Russia's interest', that's a smokescreen. Russian interests are
    not served by any aspect of this war (or any other). Best guess as to the reason for war: a shaky dictator wants to give himself a medal.

    I suspect John Doe wants a medal, too. For lying while hanging onto Putin's coattails.

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  • From Joe Gwinn@21:1/5 to langwadt@fonz.dk on Sun Mar 13 15:06:44 2022
    On Sun, 13 Mar 2022 05:40:12 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

    sÝndag den 13. marts 2022 kl. 13.33.13 UTC+1 skrev David Brown:
    On 13/03/2022 12:46, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
    Russian soldiers...

    You are /way/ behind the times. The Ukrainian government published
    instructions for making Molotov cocktails some two weeks ago.
    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???
    Citizens have every right to oppose an invading army.

    The legalities of what constitutes a war crime are complicated, and I
    don't pretend to know the rules.

    https://lieber.westpoint.edu/are-molotov-cocktails-lawful-weapons/

    The above agonized analysis can only apply to governments, if it
    applies at all. There is no world government with the ability to
    impose law on sovereign nations, so those governments would have to
    agree to be so bound by signing at least one treaty. And then follow
    said treaty.

    A population facing an invading army can do anything. Even if one
    tried to impose rules, how could such rules be enforced in the
    battlefield? On someone who will die in 30 seconds unless an ongoing
    attack is thwarted immediately.

    The old saying in the US (and in the UK?) is: "Better to be judged by
    twelve than buried by six."

    Joe Gwinn

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Joe Gwinn on Mon Mar 14 02:42:59 2022
    Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> wrote:

    A population facing an invading army can do anything.

    As can the invading army.

    Even if one tried to impose rules, how could such rules be enforced in
    the battlefield? On someone who will die in 30 seconds unless an
    ongoing attack is thwarted immediately.

    Yeah, and?

    The old saying in the US (and in the UK?) is: "Better to be judged by
    twelve than buried by six."

    That is obscure. Self-defense is a basic human right, but flailing against a much superior attacker is unwise.

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to whit3rd@gmail.com on Mon Mar 14 02:44:34 2022
    Idiot...


    whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:43:46 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    But of course in reality there is no such thing as a "war crime".

    Who makes "war crime" law? The winner of the last war.

    Well, no. In the case of WW II Germany, it was prosecution under German
    law that was definitive. If it was illegal under German law to round up
    a few dozen citizens and execute them without trial, then it was illegal
    in German-held territories. Effective war tactics, while brutal, were
    not found to be illegal (notably, Otto Skorzeny was not prosecuted for war crimes).

    There are treaties on treatment of prisoners of war, for example, that
    are also enforceable law. There are US examples of conviction of US
    military jailers for such things, from Iraq.



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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Mon Mar 14 02:47:29 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Too bad blowhard cowards on the Internet like this one don't have to face
    what the Ukrainian PEOPLE are having to face...

    --
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    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 12:57:57 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:

    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
    Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    Encouraging civilians to confront an approaching army is EXTREMELY if not CRIMINALLY careless. That gives invaders an excuse to fire on civilians.

    When the invader is already shelling and bombing hospitals, they don't seem to need much excuse to fire on civilians.

    Fortunately for those poor misled Ukrainians, Russia couldn't care less about guerrilla warfare. Russia's interest is stopping NATO's ORGANIZED aggression.

    Not that NATO has organised any aggressive move yet. Putin has organised quite enough of them to frighten the former satellites into badly wanting to get under the NATO umbrella, which has been protecting western Europe since 1949.

    This probably counts as passive aggression from John Doe's bizarre point of view.

    Has anybody asked the millions of Ukrainian refugees whether they would have rather surrendered so they could have stayed in their homes?

    Their menfolk have actually stayed in their homes to fight the Russians. It's not the kind of question a sensible reporter would ask.

    Can we provide enough aid so that it's like a vacation?

    Few vacation spots can accommodate a million or so refugees at short notice, and getting them to anything that might look like a vacation spot would tie up a lot of transport, so the answer seems to be no.

    John Doe needs to raise his game to the point where he could seen as a half-wit. At the moment he'd rate as brain dead.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney



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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to whit3rd@gmail.com on Mon Mar 14 02:47:18 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Too bad blowhard cowards on the Internet like this one don't have to face
    what the Ukrainian PEOPLE are having to face...

    --
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    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
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    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:57:57 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    Encouraging civilians to confront an approaching army is EXTREMELY if not
    CRIMINALLY careless. That gives invaders an excuse to fire on civilians.

    Alas, that's correct. The range and accuracy of a 'cocktail' doesn't impress
    a rifle-equipped soldier.

    Fortunately for those poor misled Ukrainians, Russia couldn't care less about
    guerrilla warfare. Russia's interest is stopping NATO's ORGANIZED aggression.

    Aggression is not an event, it's an attitude. You can paint that attitude onto
    anyone or anything, in your imagination. Facts, events, do not support that assertion.
    NATO is organized: true.
    NATO is aggressive: huh? It's a defense alliance.

    As for 'Russia's interest', that's a smokescreen. Russian interests are
    not served by any aspect of this war (or any other). Best guess as to the reason for war: a shaky dictator wants to give himself a medal.

    I suspect John Doe wants a medal, too. For lying while hanging onto Putin's coattails.



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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to John Dope Troll on Sun Mar 13 20:06:23 2022
    John Dope Troll wrote:
    ================

    A population facing an invading army can do anything.

    As can the invading army.

    ** That is where the Joke Dope troll is 1000% WRONG !!

    No army has the right to invade a nation to take it over.
    ============================================

    Self-defense is a basic human right,

    ** But there is zero right to invade and kill citizens in order to take over a nation.

    FYI: The whole idea of a " legally declared war" was abolished in 1947.

    Russia is committing a " crime against humanity " as well as many war crimes. If Putin or any of his gang were to ever leave Russia, they could be jailed immediately and put on trial.

    Russia is now a pariah country and likely to remain so for decades.


    ..... Phil

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 14 03:11:02 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Mon, 14 Mar 2022 02:47:18 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t0mabl$c28$10@dont-email.me>).

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    GuaXoQSUICyu

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Mon Mar 14 03:11:47 2022
    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:

    John Doe wrote:

    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
    Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    The Russians are waging war.

    All is fair in love and war.

    The Ukrainians citizens are merely engaged in self defence.

    Self-defense is a basic human right, but flailing at a much superior
    adversary is foolish.

    A maniac running round the streets in a tank randomly firing at
    buildings could be stopped by citizens by any means available. It makes
    no difference that the maniac is a Russian.

    That's the military's job. Civilians should not be lobbing Molotov
    cocktails at tanks. That's FOOLISH. Encouraging them to do so is CRIMINAL.

    But the media and fans of romance novels LOVE war. Your drama... Their suffering, pain, and death.

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to John Doe on Mon Mar 14 14:01:26 2022
    On 13-Mar-22 10:46 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    The Russians are waging war.

    The Ukrainians citizens are merely engaged in self defence.

    A maniac running round the streets in a tank randomly firing at
    buildings could be stopped by citizens by any means available. It makes
    no difference that the maniac is a Russian.

    Sylvia.

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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to Jerkoff Dope on Sun Mar 13 20:23:02 2022
    Jerkoff Dope wrote:
    ===============

    All is fair in love and war.

    ** Fuckwit drivel.

    The Ukrainians citizens are merely engaged in self defence.

    Self-defense is a basic human right, but flailing at a much superior adversary is foolish.

    ** Up to individuals to decide what risk is worth them taking in self defence.

    Not fucking lunatics like you.



    ...... Phil

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Mon Mar 14 03:24:44 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

    Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
    except when it got a severe spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

    See also...
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

    Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

    Spanked Eddie...

    --
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Mon, 14 Mar 2022 02:47:18 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t0mabl$c28$10@dont-email.me>).

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    GuaXoQSUICyu




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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Phil Allison on Mon Mar 14 03:24:19 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Whining about "war crimes" while Ukrainians are displaced and killed.

    So many keyboard warmongers who apparently know NOTHING about history are craving World War III. Distinct possibility, the next time, when the fever
    for war is even greater, maybe it will happen.

    If Trump were still in office, the screaming for war would be deafening.

    All together now...

    "LOGIC DOESN'T FIT MY AGENDA!!!"


    --
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    John Dope Troll wrote:
    ================

    A population facing an invading army can do anything.

    As can the invading army.

    ** That is where the Joke Dope troll is 1000% WRONG !!

    No army has the right to invade a nation to take it over.
    ============================================

    Self-defense is a basic human right,

    ** But there is zero right to invade and kill citizens in order to take over a nation.

    FYI: The whole idea of a " legally declared war" was abolished in 1947.

    Russia is committing a " crime against humanity " as well as many war crimes. If Putin or any of his gang were to ever leave Russia, they could be jailed immediately and put on trial.

    Russia is now a pariah country and likely to remain so for decades.


    ..... Phil





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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Phil Allison on Mon Mar 14 03:28:59 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Another Australian troll...

    --
    Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

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    Jerkoff Dope wrote:
    ===============

    All is fair in love and war.

    ** Fuckwit drivel.

    The Ukrainians citizens are merely engaged in self defence.

    Self-defense is a basic human right, but flailing at a much superior
    adversary is foolish.

    ** Up to individuals to decide what risk is worth them taking in self defence.

    Not fucking lunatics like you.



    ...... Phil











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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 14 03:30:30 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:24:33 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t0mchh$rnc$3@dont-email.me>).

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    F8jBomCn6q+5

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 13 20:33:11 2022
    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 2:11:57 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote:
    John Doe wrote:

    <snip>

    The Ukrainians citizens are merely engaged in self defense.

    Self-defense is a basic human right, but flailing at a much superior adversary is foolish.

    It's called guerilla warfare or asymmetric warfare

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare

    It can be effective, and anything but foolish.

    The Russians aren't all that superior - there are more of them, but they are the attacking force.

    A maniac running round the streets in a tank randomly firing at
    buildings could be stopped by citizens by any means available. It makes
    no difference that the maniac is a Russian.

    That's the military's job. Civilians should not be lobbing Molotov
    cocktails at tanks. That's FOOLISH.

    If it takes out the tank - and it can - it's not in the least foolish. It's risky, and it doesn't take out all that many tanks at the first attempt. But if there are more defenders than tanks (and there mostly are) it can be very effective.

    Encouraging them to do so is CRIMINAL.

    Not under any law code that I know of.

    But the media and fans of romance novels LOVE war. Your drama... Their suffering, pain, and death.

    Nobody sane loves war. Nobody sane fancies getting taken over by a bunch of corrupt and rapacious crooks either. It's a lesser of two evils question.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 14 03:42:01 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:41:08 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t0mdgj$rnc$8@dont-email.me>.

    7fiWzSsstL+o

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 14 03:41:59 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:40:56 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t0mdg8$rnc$7@dont-email.me>.

    uw8Q7S+GvEgl

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 13 21:01:35 2022
    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 7:44:44 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    Idiot...

    Accompanied by no facts whatever... I guess facts wouldn't impress the
    KGB officer looking over John Doe's shoulder

    whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:43:46 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    But of course in reality there is no such thing as a "war crime".

    Fatuous, and false.
    History defines parts of our reality. whit3rd noted historic facts

    Who makes "war crime" law? The winner of the last war.

    Well, no. In the case of WW II Germany, it was prosecution under German
    law that was definitive. If it was illegal under German law to round up
    a few dozen citizens and execute them without trial, then it was illegal
    in German-held territories. Effective war tactics, while brutal, were
    not found to be illegal (notably, Otto Skorzeny was not prosecuted for war crimes).

    There are treaties on treatment of prisoners of war, for example, that
    are also enforceable law. There are US examples of conviction of US military jailers for such things, from Iraq.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 13 20:42:41 2022
    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 2:24:29 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    Phil Allison <palli...@gmail.com> wrote:
    From: Phil Allison <palli...@gmail.com>

    John Dope Troll wrote:
    ================

    A population facing an invading army can do anything.

    As can the invading army.

    ** That is where the Joke Dope troll is 1000% WRONG !!

    No army has the right to invade a nation to take it over. ============================================

    Self-defense is a basic human right,

    ** But there is zero right to invade and kill citizens in order to take over a nation.

    FYI: The whole idea of a " legally declared war" was abolished in 1947.

    Russia is committing a " crime against humanity " as well as many war crimes.
    If Putin or any of his gang were to ever leave Russia, they could be jailed immediately and put on trial.

    Russia is now a pariah country and likely to remain so for decades.

    Whining about "war crimes" while Ukrainians are displaced and killed.

    Some of the deaths are war crimes. Pointing this out isn't "whining".

    So many keyboard warmongers who apparently know NOTHING about history are craving World War III.

    Only in John Doe's imaginary universe.

    Distinct possibility, the next time, when the fever for war is even greater, maybe it will happen.

    There's absolutely no fever for war now except perhaps in Putin's inner circle. Nobody sane is ever going to fancy the idea.

    If Trump were still in office, the screaming for war would be deafening.

    Why? And who would be screaming for it?

    All together now..."LOGIC DOESN'T FIT MY AGENDA!!!"

    John Doe hasn't got a clue about what logic looks like.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 14 05:15:56 2022
    Cannibal leftists like Bozo love destruction and death.


    Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

    "the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
    (Bozo paraphrased)

    "the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
    (Bill Sloman)

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to whit3rd@gmail.com on Mon Mar 14 05:21:19 2022
    Go help Ukraine defend itself against Russia.

    Being a keyboard cheerleader doesn't help Ukrainians.



    whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 7:44:44 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    Idiot...

    Accompanied by no facts whatever... I guess facts wouldn't impress the
    KGB officer looking over John Doe's shoulder

    whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 6:43:46 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    But of course in reality there is no such thing as a "war crime".

    Fatuous, and false.
    History defines parts of our reality. whit3rd noted historic facts

    Who makes "war crime" law? The winner of the last war.

    Well, no. In the case of WW II Germany, it was prosecution under German
    law that was definitive. If it was illegal under German law to round up
    a few dozen citizens and execute them without trial, then it was
    illegal
    in German-held territories. Effective war tactics, while brutal, were
    not found to be illegal (notably, Otto Skorzeny was not prosecuted for
    war crimes).

    There are treaties on treatment of prisoners of war, for example, that
    are also enforceable law. There are US examples of conviction of US
    military jailers for such things, from Iraq.


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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to John Doe on Mon Mar 14 17:06:03 2022
    On 14-Mar-22 4:17 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Self-defense is a basic human right (I'm a firm believer), but flailing against a vastly superior enemy is FOOLISH.


    Whether or not it is foolish, which, as Phil pointed out, is a judgement
    to be made by the people concerned, it is not a war crime.

    Sylvia.

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 14 05:17:54 2022
    Self-defense is a basic human right (I'm a firm believer), but flailing
    against a vastly superior enemy is FOOLISH.


    Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

    "the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
    (Bozo paraphrased)

    "the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
    (Bill Sloman)

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Mon Mar 14 06:17:04 2022
    I said civilians attacking soldiers LEADS to "war crimes".

    Of course FOOLISHNESS is not a war crime, it's just FOOLISH.

    Encouraging such FOOLISHNESS is CRIMINAL unless you are a
    non-consequential blowhard.

    How can any grown-up be THAT stupid?



    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:

    On 14-Mar-22 4:17 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Self-defense is a basic human right (I'm a firm believer), but flailing
    against a vastly superior enemy is FOOLISH.


    Whether or not it is foolish, which, as Phil pointed out, is a judgement
    to be made by the people concerned, it is not a war crime.

    Sylvia.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 13 23:36:29 2022
    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 4:16:07 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    Cannibal leftists love destruction and death.

    Since whole idea of "cannibal leftists" is an invention of John Doe's diseased brain, he's the only person who can tell us about them.

    Identifying real people as "cannibal leftists" is known as "projection". Since they don't actually correspond to John Doe's demented delusions, it's not to be taken seriously.

    <snipped more fatuous nonsense>

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 13 23:42:59 2022
    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 5:17:15 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote:
    On 14-Mar-22 4:17 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Self-defense is a basic human right (I'm a firm believer), but flailing
    against a vastly superior enemy is FOOLISH.

    Whether or not it is foolish, which, as Phil pointed out, is a judgement
    to be made by the people concerned, it is not a war crime.

    I said civilians attacking soldiers LEADS to "war crimes".

    Of course FOOLISHNESS is not a war crime, it's just FOOLISH.

    Encouraging such FOOLISHNESS is CRIMINAL unless you are a non-consequential blowhard.

    How can any grown-up be THAT stupid?

    John Doe needs to ask?

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 13 23:40:32 2022
    On Monday, March 14, 2022 at 4:18:04 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    Self-defense is a basic human right (I'm a firm believer), but flailing against a vastly superior enemy is FOOLISH.

    John Doe's ideas about the vast superiority of the invading Russian forces over the Ukranian army and it's auxiliaries are worth about as much as all his other demented delusions. He's the prime example of foolishness on show around here.

    <snipped more foolishness>

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Sylvia Else@21:1/5 to John Doe on Mon Mar 14 21:36:13 2022
    On 14-Mar-22 5:17 pm, John Doe wrote:
    I said civilians attacking soldiers LEADS to "war crimes".

    Of course FOOLISHNESS is not a war crime, it's just FOOLISH.

    Encouraging such FOOLISHNESS is CRIMINAL unless you are a
    non-consequential blowhard.

    How can any grown-up be THAT stupid?



    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:

    On 14-Mar-22 4:17 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Self-defense is a basic human right (I'm a firm believer), but flailing
    against a vastly superior enemy is FOOLISH.


    Whether or not it is foolish, which, as Phil pointed out, is a judgement
    to be made by the people concerned, it is not a war crime.

    Sylvia.


    You said:

    "Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES??? "

    The only obvious possible outcome of encouraging Ukrainians to throw
    Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers is that Ukrainians will throw
    Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers.

    If that's not the alleged war crime you were referring to, then you need
    more than a rhetorical question to support your position.

    Sylvia.

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 14 10:57:32 2022
    Probably could have been written better.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Sylvia Else on Mon Mar 14 14:31:11 2022
    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote in news:j98k4vF4r7aU1@mid.individual.net:

    On 14-Mar-22 5:17 pm, John Doe wrote:
    I said civilians attacking soldiers LEADS to "war crimes".

    Of course FOOLISHNESS is not a war crime, it's just FOOLISH.

    Encouraging such FOOLISHNESS is CRIMINAL unless you are a
    non-consequential blowhard.

    How can any grown-up be THAT stupid?



    Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:

    On 14-Mar-22 4:17 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Self-defense is a basic human right (I'm a firm believer), but
    flailing against a vastly superior enemy is FOOLISH.


    Whether or not it is foolish, which, as Phil pointed out, is a
    judgement to be made by the people concerned, it is not a war
    crime.

    Sylvia.


    You said:

    "Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov
    cocktails at Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES??? "

    The only obvious possible outcome of encouraging Ukrainians to
    throw Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers is that Ukrainians
    will throw Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers.

    If that's not the alleged war crime you were referring to, then
    you need more than a rhetorical question to support your position.



    You all seem to forget one word here...

    INVADING Russian soldiers. Meaning that ALL of THEIR actions are
    crimes and ALL the Ukraine people come up with to repel them are NOT
    crimes!

    Worried about a burning cocktail? These invading assholes need a
    few MOABs dropped onto their asses along with a few incindiary bombs.
    Up and down the line. Let the rest surrender as they see the flames
    and explosions heading their way. Just like Saddam's elite guard.
    First the troops pay, then the head of the snake too. BUNKER BUSTERS
    for Putin AT the Kremlin! Blow that war mongering building to hell.

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  • From Flyguy@21:1/5 to John Doe on Wed Mar 16 21:48:54 2022
    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:46:40 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    You are a Putin apologist - there are PLENTY of CLEAR war crimes committed by Putin and his lackies.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Thu Mar 17 05:02:39 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Nope, no apologies here.

    Like it or not... I'm presenting the non-Western propagandist side of the story.

    The only justification I can think of for NATO's aggressive expansion,
    their attempt to establish a first strike capability against Russia...
    Someday, one of the major powers (or conceivably a minor power) will
    develop a super sinister all-powerful weapon (for example, a device that disables nukes) and take over the world. Would Russia employ it against
    the rest of the world? Probably. So would the other powers.

    Either that, or the slow march of the New World Order takes over. In
    either case, eventually there will be one world government. That's when
    the screws begin to tighten on ordinary people.

    So, oh well.

    --
    Flyguy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

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    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:46:40 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
    Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    You are a Putin apologist - there are PLENTY of CLEAR war crimes committed by Putin and his lackies.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to John Doe on Wed Mar 16 22:15:16 2022
    On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 10:02:46 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    Nope, no apologies here.

    Like it or not... I'm presenting the non-Western propagandist side of the story.

    The only justification I can think of for NATO's aggressive expansion,
    their attempt to establish a first strike capability against Russia... Someday, one of the major powers (or conceivably a minor power) will
    develop a super sinister all-powerful weapon (for example, a device that disables nukes)

    How do you reckon that would work? Disable launching or disable radiation? If you can build it, perhaps you will get the Nobel prize.

    and take over the world. Would Russia employ it against
    the rest of the world? Probably. So would the other powers.

    Either that, or the slow march of the New World Order takes over. In
    either case, eventually there will be one world government. That's when
    the screws begin to tighten on ordinary people.

    Depends on whether this one world government is democratic or not.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 17 05:36:13 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 17 Mar 2022 05:02:39 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t0ufdf$a7o$1@dont-email.me>).

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    uPjhD6mvvEIK

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 17 05:44:35 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 17 Mar 2022 05:41:32 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t0uhmc$a7o$6@dont-email.me>.

    Yi6S5XS5+QKJ

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Thu Mar 17 05:40:41 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

    John Doe wrote:

    Nope, no apologies here.

    Like it or not... I'm presenting the non-Western propagandist side of
    the story.

    The only justification I can think of for NATO's aggressive expansion,
    their attempt to establish a first strike capability against Russia...
    Someday, one of the major powers (or conceivably a minor power) will
    develop a super sinister all-powerful weapon (for example, a device
    that disables nukes)

    How do you reckon that would work? Disable launching or disable
    radiation? If you can build it, perhaps you will get the Nobel prize.

    I have no idea how. Superduper Patriot missiles? But that's probably very
    messy and still destroys much life on this planet.

    It could involve biological weapons. Immunizing their own people and then letting it loose. There are all sorts of possibilities.

    and take over the world. Would Russia employ it against the rest of the
    world? Probably. So would the other powers.

    Either that, or the slow march of the New World Order takes over. In
    either case, eventually there will be one world government. That's when
    the screws begin to tighten on ordinary people.

    Depends on whether this one world government is democratic or not.

    "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men
    are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not
    authority, still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority." (Lord Acton)

    https://history.hanover.edu/courses/excerpts/165acton.html

    Power is sucked up into the top. Eventually when there is only one world government, there will be no "balance of power". When governments are no
    longer played against each other, that will be it for the citizenry.

    In some ways, seems that happens already, governments cooperate against the people, in secret. When there is only one world government, it gets ugly.
    There is a solution (however difficult to believe), but it's not man-made.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Wed Mar 16 23:56:30 2022
    On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 4:40:48 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:
    John Doe wrote:

    <snip>

    In some ways, seems that happens already, governments cooperate against the people, in secret.

    In the opinion of every last demented conspiracy theory enthusiast. Sorry, John, there is no Deep State. It is as mythical as Santa Claus.

    When there is only one world government, it gets ugly.

    John Doe's idea of the future is about as reliable as his ideas about the past. He doesn't understand what has happened and extrapolates his delusions into a future that's even more implausible than his ideas about what is going on at the moment.

    The "world government" he's so worried about would sit on top of a whole lot of regional governments, in the same way that the US federal government coexists with fifty one state governments. Getting them coordinated to act against the people would be a
    neat trick .

    There is a solution (however difficult to believe), but it's not man-made.

    Granting John Doe's expressed desires, he probably thinks that a random noise generator is what we all need, and he does inject a lot of it here.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Mar 17 07:41:30 2022
    On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 10:40:48 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    John Doe wrote:

    Nope, no apologies here.

    Like it or not... I'm presenting the non-Western propagandist side of
    the story.

    The only justification I can think of for NATO's aggressive expansion,
    their attempt to establish a first strike capability against Russia...
    Someday, one of the major powers (or conceivably a minor power) will
    develop a super sinister all-powerful weapon (for example, a device
    that disables nukes)

    How do you reckon that would work? Disable launching or disable
    radiation? If you can build it, perhaps you will get the Nobel prize.
    I have no idea how. Superduper Patriot missiles? But that's probably very messy and still destroys much life on this planet.

    Intercepted/detonated nuclear warhead in the air is not much better than in the ground. If anything, it will just spread radiation more evenly in the atmosphere.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Thu Mar 17 20:17:37 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:e3c925b6-b4a2-4b07-a7be-b1d797fe3d3en@googlegroups.com:

    Intercepted/detonated nuclear warhead in the air is not much
    better than in the ground. If anything, it will just spread
    radiation more evenly in the atmosphere.



    You really are an idiot. An intercepted nuke does NOT detonate. If it
    does, it was NOT intercepted, you stupid fuck.

    Nukes are airburst devices, dumbfuck.

    If anything you might get a clue in your next life.
    Go take a flying leap off a tall bridge, idiot.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From M Kfivethousand@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Mar 17 14:46:27 2022
    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 10:29:09 PM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:
    Another Australian troll...

    You are brave grasshopper
    You probably the alpha of howler monkeys

    mk5000

    I saw her walking out the other day
    I thought my love for her
    Had gone away

    Well, I remember
    How I loved her so--The Zombies - She's Coming Home

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  • From M Kfivethousand@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Mar 17 14:41:33 2022
    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 10:24:29 PM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:
    Whining about "war crimes" while Ukrainians are displaced and killed.

    So many keyboard warmongers who apparently know NOTHING about history are craving World War III. Distinct possibility, the next time, when the fever for war is even greater, maybe it will happen.

    If Trump were still in office, the screaming for war would be deafening.

    I can just about guarantee that screaming would be present no matter who the president would be at the time of the 2022 invasion

    In fact Trump constantly complains that Bolton was a thorn in his side for his constant advocacy of military action tantamount to world War 3

    Everything Trump does is related to superficial appearance

    I can tell you that if he started eating vegetarian it would be to keep a trim figure not for any sensitivity to animal life or climate impacts

    But tho you might say he would never take such stands, he would if those concerns paid him more than his current keepers

    Problem is that vegetarian diets are not designed for weight loss so except for a financial sponsor he will keep eating mickey ds

    Or now that McDonald's has abandoned Russia, he will be eating Uncle Vanya, Moscow's answer to the quarter pounder, with a trademark interestingly resembling the Golden arches, on its side, presumably rotated on the axis of evil

    mk5000

    Marie
    You're a strange little one
    Marie
    Always on the run
    Marie
    Where do you belong--The Bachelors

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to M Kfivethousand on Thu Mar 17 22:30:59 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Some nym-shifting troll, used this ID around 2007...

    --
    M Kfivethousand <marika5000@gmail.com> wrote:

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    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 10:24:29 PM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:
    Whining about "war crimes" while Ukrainians are displaced and killed.

    So many keyboard warmongers who apparently know NOTHING about history are
    craving World War III. Distinct possibility, the next time, when the fever >> for war is even greater, maybe it will happen.

    If Trump were still in office, the screaming for war would be deafening.

    I can just about guarantee that screaming would be present no matter who the president would be at the time of the 2022 invasion

    In fact Trump constantly complains that Bolton was a thorn in his side for his constant advocacy of military action tantamount to world War 3

    Everything Trump does is related to superficial appearance

    I can tell you that if he started eating vegetarian it would be to keep a trim figure not for any sensitivity to animal life or climate impacts

    But tho you might say he would never take such stands, he would if those concerns paid him more than his current keepers

    Problem is that vegetarian diets are not designed for weight loss so except for a financial sponsor he will keep eating mickey ds

    Or now that McDonald's has abandoned Russia, he will be eating Uncle Vanya, Moscow's answer to the quarter pounder, with a trademark interestingly resembling the Golden arches, on its side, presumably rotated on the axis of evil

    mk5000

    Marie
    You're a strange little one
    Marie
    Always on the run
    Marie
    Where do you belong--The Bachelors





    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to soar2morrow@yahoo.com on Thu Mar 17 15:28:45 2022
    On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 21:48:54 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
    <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:46:40 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
    Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    You are a Putin apologist - there are PLENTY of CLEAR war crimes committed by Putin and his lackies.

    Putin is acting a lot like Hitler. He makes crazy military decisions,
    then blames his generals, and everybody else, when things don't work
    out.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Thu Mar 17 22:33:36 2022
    If Putin were evil, he would have blown up the whole planet already.

    That's what evil does.







    John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 16 Mar 2022 21:48:54 -0700 (PDT), Flyguy
    <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> wrote:

    On Sunday, March 13, 2022 at 4:46:40 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
    Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    You are a Putin apologist - there are PLENTY of CLEAR war crimes committed
    by Putin and his lackies.

    Putin is acting a lot like Hitler. He makes crazy military decisions,
    then blames his generals, and everybody else, when things don't work
    out.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 17 23:01:34 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 17 Mar 2022 22:30:59 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t10cr2$pd2$1@dont-email.me>.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 17 23:35:13 2022
    One of the amazing things about this current incident...

    Republicans, even Trump supporters like "Flyguy", are acting like Ukraine
    is Holy Jerusalem, as if Ukraine is near and dear as Israel.

    That is strange, considering the fact Ukraine worked HARD against Trump
    and supported Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election...

    http://preview.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/03/10/how_ukraine_conspired_with_dems_against_trump_to_prevent_the_kind_of_war_happening_now_under_biden_820873.html

    Russian elections are not fair, but Ukraine elections are not fair either.

    Fortunately, the vast majority of Americans strongly oppose Congress
    sending billions of dollars we do not have, to defend Ukraine's borders
    while not defending our OWN borders.

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 17 23:40:10 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 17 Mar 2022 23:23:55 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t10fub$h5h$5@dont-email.me>.

    5obKfWyDQ7xV

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Mar 17 19:56:11 2022
    On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 10:35:20 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    One of the amazing things about this current incident...

    Republicans, even Trump supporters like "Flyguy", are acting like Ukraine
    is Holy Jerusalem, as if Ukraine is near and dear as Israel.

    That is strange, considering the fact Ukraine worked HARD against Trump
    and supported Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election...

    <http://preview.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/03/10/how_ukraine_conspired_with_dems_against_trump_to_prevent_the_kind_of_war_happening_now_under_biden_820873.html >

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealClearPolitics>

    Russian elections are not fair, but Ukraine elections are not fair either.

    Really?

    https://www.usip.org/blog/2019/04/ukraines-presidential-vote-free-not-yet-fair

    They certainly seem to have been a great deal fairer than their Russian equivalents, and not all that far behind the US election system which does have it's faults.

    Fortunately, the vast majority of Americans strongly oppose Congress sending billions of dollars we do not have, to defend Ukraine's borders while not defending our OWN borders.

    Not that John Doe can tell us why he thinks that, or what the "billions of dollars" are being spent on. Presumably the US is not defending to it's southern borders against South and Central American refugees with the enthusiasm that John Doe would like.
    He probably agrees with Trump that the US needs to build a wall along its border with Mexico, though Trump's enthusiasm for this quixotic project largely evaporated after he got elected.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 18 13:48:14 2022
    An America-bashing Australian...


    Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

    "the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
    (Bozo paraphrased)

    "the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
    (Bill Sloman)

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Fri Mar 18 07:56:08 2022
    On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 12:48:21 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    An America-bashing Australian...

    And that's the best response that John Doe can come up with. I make several specific points and he isn't up to presenting counter arguments to any of them.

    I've snipped the pathetic piffle that he's has recycled from other threads. He is a childish half-wit.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 20 02:56:54 2022
    On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:57:37 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    IN FACT... NATO has been aggressively expanding to Russia's border ...

    In other words, NATO has scrupulously stayed out of Russia, while
    Putin has violated and recreated borders (Georgia, then Ukraine, then Ukraine again...)
    at whim.

    Only a dimbulb like John Doe thinks 'aggressively' describes NATO.

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to whit3rd@gmail.com on Sun Mar 20 16:08:48 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Anybody but an imperialist warmonger who takes a minute to study NATO
    expansion since the Cold War ended knows better.

    Henry Kissinger and other Western diplomats (as opposed to blowhard
    dweebs) have warned against AGGRESSIVE NATO expansion to Russia's border countries.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/12/19/expand-nato-now/f1f0b4ed-56ee-4e5b-84ba-ae19a07a9997/

    "It would proceed with membership for the Visigrad countries...Such a
    treaty would provide that no foreign troops be stationed on the territory
    of new NATO members."

    Now 3/4 of those Visigrad countries are hosting NATO troops. Power tends
    to corrupt.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html

    "...if Ukraine is to survive and thrive, it must not be either side's
    outpost against the other - it should function as a bridge between them."

    That's not propaganda, it's wise advice that was ignored, leading to the displacement of 3 million (and counting) Ukrainians and many deaths.

    Warmongers like this one can virtue signal and insult others for not
    towing the imperialist line, but somebody should ask the millions of
    Ukrainian refugees whether their corrupt, Nazi infested government
    flirting with NATO was worth it...

    --
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    On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:57:37 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    IN FACT... NATO has been aggressively expanding to Russia's border ...

    In other words, NATO has scrupulously stayed out of Russia, while
    Putin has violated and recreated borders (Georgia, then Ukraine, then Ukraine again...)
    at whim.

    Only a dimbulb like John Doe thinks 'aggressively' describes NATO.


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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun Mar 20 16:08:58 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Henry Kissinger and other Western diplomats (as opposed to blowhard
    dweebs) have warned against AGGRESSIVE NATO expansion to Russia's border countries.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/12/19/expand-nato-now/f1f0b4ed-56ee-4e5b-84ba-ae19a07a9997/

    "It would proceed with membership for the Visigrad countries...Such a
    treaty would provide that no foreign troops be stationed on the territory
    of new NATO members."

    Now 3/4 of them are hosting NATO troops. Power tends to corrupt.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html

    "...if Ukraine is to survive and thrive, it must not be either side's
    outpost against the other - it should function as a bridge between them."

    That's not propaganda, it's wise advice that was ignored, leading to the displacement of 3 million (and counting) Ukrainians and many deaths.

    Warmongers like this one can flap its lips about "propaganda", but
    somebody should ask the millions of Ukrainian refugees whether their
    corrupt, Nazi infested government flirting with NATO was worth it...

    --
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

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    On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 2:56:58 AM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
    On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:57:37 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    IN FACT... NATO has been aggressively expanding to Russia's border ...

    It's not OTAN being aggressive. It's the bordering countries wanting protections from the aggressive neighbour.

    In other words, NATO has scrupulously stayed out of Russia, while
    Putin has violated and recreated borders (Georgia, then Ukraine, then Ukraine again...)
    at whim.

    These small countries have the rights not to be "back to the USSR".

    Only a dimbulb like John Doe thinks 'aggressively' describes NATO.

    Victim (or promoter) of Russian propaganda.



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 20 16:35:16 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:08:48 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t17jig$9dr$1@dont-email.me>.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

    SStfDPPUIB/9

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Sun Mar 20 16:38:10 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

    Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
    except when it got a severe spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

    See also...
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

    Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

    Spanked Eddie...

    --
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    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:08:58 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t17jip$9dr$2@dont-email.me>.

    +fRw/geOiBAm




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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 20 16:38:32 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Sun, 20 Mar 2022 16:38:10 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t17l9i$9dr$10@dont-email.me>).

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    LobOvZG7X0b5

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 20 11:57:23 2022
    somebody should ask the millions of
    Ukrainian refugees whether their corrupt, Nazi infested government
    flirting with NATO was worth it...

    The refugees are the lucky one. Some unlucky victims (children and women) are kidnapped into Russia, where they will be supplies for Putin's meat grinder in the future. No matter how corrupt Ukraine government is, Putin does not have the right to play
    God, and decide for the people of another country.

    Ukrainians already answer the Putin God with Javelins, Stingers and SwitchBlades. But why only 100 SwitchBlades? They are supposed to be cheap and effective.

    I am sitting right in front of the EV charger made by the same company (AV env.). Hope it won't blow up like the drone.

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 20 12:17:46 2022
    On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 9:09:05 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    Henry Kissinger and other Western diplomats (as opposed to blowhard
    dweebs) have warned against AGGRESSIVE NATO expansion to Russia's border countries.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/12/19/expand-nato-now/f1f0b4ed-56ee-4e5b-84ba-ae19a07a9997/

    Not a warning at all, but a (forlorn, now) hope. Didn't read the article, did you?
    Repetition of the 'I want full surrender of Ukraine' message is
    John Doe's meaningless babble. It's not Kissinger's message.

    NATO is not aggressive in any important sense.

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to whit3rd@gmail.com on Sun Mar 20 20:11:02 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    NATO members have invaded plenty of countries. Just because they don't fly
    a NATO flag is pretty meaningless.

    What I said about Kissinger is FACT from the articles I referenced.

    There are plenty of others...

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    On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 9:09:05 AM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    Henry Kissinger and other Western diplomats (as opposed to blowhard
    dweebs) have warned against AGGRESSIVE NATO expansion to Russia's border
    countries.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1994/12/19/expand-nato-now/f1f0b4ed-56ee-4e5b-84ba-ae19a07a9997/

    Not a warning at all, but a (forlorn, now) hope. Didn't read the article, did you?
    Repetition of the 'I want full surrender of Ukraine' message is
    John Doe's meaningless babble. It's not Kissinger's message.

    NATO is not aggressive in any important sense.



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 20 20:44:03 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sun, 20 Mar 2022 20:11:02 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t181ol$6rf$1@dont-email.me>.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

    5KIEE1RN2kJ0

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  • From M Kfivethousand@21:1/5 to Flyguy on Sun Mar 20 13:51:25 2022
    On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 11:42:32 PM UTC-5, Flyguy wrote:
    On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 4:35:20 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    One of the amazing things about this current incident...

    Republicans, even Trump supporters like "Flyguy", are acting like Ukraine is Holy Jerusalem, as if Ukraine is near and dear as Israel.

    That is strange, considering the fact Ukraine worked HARD against Trump and supported Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election...

    http://preview.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/03/10/how_ukraine_conspired_with_dems_against_trump_to_prevent_the_kind_of_war_happening_now_under_biden_820873.html

    Russian elections are not fair, but Ukraine elections are not fair either.

    Fortunately, the vast majority of Americans strongly oppose Congress sending billions of dollars we do not have, to defend Ukraine's borders while not defending our OWN borders.
    No, I don't think that at all. Ukraine sided with Lyin' Biden,

    Ukraine remained neutral during the election

    trump however tried to drag Ukraine by trying to make out
    of a neutral position by trying to make Zelenskyy whip out of the air fake evidence against Bidens in exchange for weapons which he never meant to give them but was finally forced to in the wake of the embarrassing impeachment disclosures. And even
    once they were purchased, Trump conditioned the sale on Ukraine keeping them locked up and unused

    I hoped the whistleblower took Trump and company down. They are one of the most significant reasons Ukraine was underprepared for defense

    Biden fixed it

    mk5000


    Group of thugs who some call the X-Generation, through penetration of lyrical Bullets of salvation, so bring the roughest and toughest demons be screamin'--T-Bone - Demon Executor

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  • From M Kfivethousand@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Sun Mar 20 13:56:32 2022
    On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 12:08:42 AM UTC-5, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 3:42:32 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
    On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 4:35:20 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    One of the amazing things about this current incident...

    Republicans, even Trump supporters like "Flyguy", are acting like Ukraine
    is Holy Jerusalem, as if Ukraine is near and dear as Israel.

    That is strange, considering the fact Ukraine worked HARD against Trump and supported Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election...

    http://preview.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2022/03/10/how_ukraine_conspired_with_dems_against_trump_to_prevent_the_kind_of_war_happening_now_under_biden_820873.html

    Russian elections are not fair, but Ukraine elections are not fair either.

    Fortunately, the vast majority of Americans strongly oppose Congress sending billions of dollars we do not have, to defend Ukraine's borders while not defending our OWN borders.

    No, I don't think that at all. Ukraine sided with Joe Biden, as the Hunter Biden emails prove. But the PEOPLE of Ukraine had nothing to do with that, and they are the ones being slaughtered by that war criminal, Putin. Ukraine isn't our "line in the
    sand," but you can see it from there. Putin must be stopped in Ukraine to prevent his expansion into other countries.

    The emails found on a lap=top that once belonged to Hunter Biden don't prove anything except perhaps that the Trump propaganda team had access to it before they published their story about it.

    Pretty much

    I again maintain Trump and company are idiots

    Tho they were soulless way before they saw any emails

    mk5000

    Hundred round, on the bottom the gun (brrr)
    Blew up on 'em like the name was bomb
    Pulled up on 'em in a brand new Mulsanne
    Not a Mulsanne, they sayin' I changed--Salty
    by Dave East

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun Mar 20 21:48:05 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:39a231dc-07a7-480a-8237-9e8f3543851cn@googlegroups.com:

    I am sitting right in front of the EV charger made by the same
    company (AV env.). Hope it won't blow up like the drone.

    You are an idiot, because 7 years ago you failed to sit in front of
    your coputer and VET the proven lifelong criminal you jumped on board
    with, believing all of his lies and insults.

    You ain't real bright, boy. Damned shame that you don't blow up...
    real good.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to John Dope on Sun Mar 20 21:50:49 2022
    John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t181ol$6rf$1@dont-email.me:

    NATO members have invaded plenty of countries. Just because they
    don't fly a NATO flag is pretty meaningless.

    You are full of shit. You are shit, in fact.
    Your petty horseshit posts are 100% ugly and meaningless.

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sun Mar 20 15:45:27 2022
    On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 1:11:09 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:
    NATO members have invaded plenty of countries. Just because they don't fly
    a NATO flag is pretty meaningless.

    The invasion of Afghanistan was a counterattack after thousands died in
    a raid from that region. There was no NATO flag on the various governing bodies
    in Afghanistan during that invasion.

    Invasion just means crossing a border; it doesn't mean annexing territory.

    What I said about Kissinger is FACT...

    Well, no; it's Kissinger's opinion (or hope), not any kind of factual historical event.
    Why do you capitalize that misleading word?

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  • From corvid@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Mon Mar 21 16:16:57 2022
    On 3/19/22 22:46, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 4:39:29 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    Cannibal leftist's could care less about anything.

    If they actually existed they might. Or maybe, like Tinkerbell in the pantomime, they only exists if people like John Doe believe in them
    sincerely (and stupidly) enough.

    You fixed the troll's Followup header.

    And the stupid troll directed *his own* Followup to his own post to alt.test.group

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164790440700

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Tue Mar 22 00:39:39 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

    Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
    except when it got a severe spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

    See also...
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

    Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

    Spanked Eddie...

    --
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

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    not-for-mail
    From: Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,free.spam
    References: <t0klim$h8f$2@dont-email.me> <33b70c03-7765-4637-b7d9-d2706444e8fdn@googlegroups.com> <t10gjh$h5h$6@dont-email.me> <4c07622c-36f7-40d7-b677-39dd5a2c9fc7n@googlegroups.com> <895cb61a-ef00-4d2a-9eef-b9f97c7bc018n@googlegroups.com> <t16em8$1sg$
    1@dont-email.me> <120b6aa2-ea8e-4901-a7dc-8c4c494aa08en@googlegroups.com> <t1b11a$1ah5$1@gioia.aioe.org> <t1b55t$aps$1@dont-email.me>
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Tue, 22 Mar 2022 00:27:41 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1b55t$aps$1@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 53.8% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    Yc8tigffgTb8




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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 22 00:35:29 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Tue, 22 Mar 2022 00:27:41 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1b55t$aps$1@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 53.8% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    Yc8tigffgTb8

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to corvid on Tue Mar 22 00:27:41 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Nym-shifting troll.

    see also...
    =?UTF-8?Q?C=c3=b6rvid?= <bl@ckbirds.org> =?UTF-8?B?8J+QriBDb3dzIGFyZSBOaWNlIPCfkK4=?= <nice@cows.moo>
    Banders <snap@mailchute.com>
    Covid-19 <always.look@message.header>
    corvid <bl@ckb.ird>
    Corvid <bl@ckbirds.net>
    Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org>
    Cows Are Nice <cows@nice.moo>
    Cows are nice <moo@cows.org>
    Cows are Nice <nice@cows.moo>
    dogs <dogs@home.com>
    Great Pumpkin <pumpkin@patch.net>
    Jose Curvo <jcurvo@mymail.com>
    Local Favorite <how2recycle@palomar.info>
    Sea <freshness@coast.org>
    Standard Poodle <standard@poodle.com>
    triangles <build@home.com>
    and others...

    --
    corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:

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    From: corvid <bl@ckb.ird>
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
    Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 16:16:57 -0700
    Organization: The 27 Club
    Message-ID: <t1b11a$1ah5$1@gioia.aioe.org>
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    On 3/19/22 22:46, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
    On Sunday, March 20, 2022 at 4:39:29 PM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    Cannibal leftist's could care less about anything.

    If they actually existed they might. Or maybe, like Tinkerbell in the
    pantomime, they only exists if people like John Doe believe in them
    sincerely (and stupidly) enough.

    You fixed the troll's Followup header.

    And the stupid troll directed *his own* Followup to his own post to alt.test.group

    http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=164790440700


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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 22 00:43:43 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 22 Mar 2022 00:39:39 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1b5sa$kq3$2@dont-email.me>.

    OYzn9vTG47pN

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  • From corvid@21:1/5 to John Doe on Mon Mar 21 17:57:09 2022
    3/21/22, 17:39, John Doe writes:
    The nym-shifting troll made the same mistake it is accusing me of
    making.

    Not even close. *You* set the followup header yourself, and stupidly
    redirected *your own* followup! Nobody else has done such a stupid
    thing, ever.

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 22 00:39:16 2022
    The nym-shifting troll made the same mistake it is accusing me of making.
    That was one reason I disassociated it from Eddie, because Eddie probably
    won't make that type of mistake.

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to corvid on Tue Mar 22 02:05:59 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Nym-shifting idiot.

    see also...
    =?UTF-8?Q?C=c3=b6rvid?= <bl@ckbirds.org> =?UTF-8?B?8J+QriBDb3dzIGFyZSBOaWNlIPCfkK4=?= <nice@cows.moo>
    Banders <snap@mailchute.com>
    Covid-19 <always.look@message.header>
    corvid <bl@ckb.ird>
    Corvid <bl@ckbirds.net>
    Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org>
    Cows Are Nice <cows@nice.moo>
    Cows are nice <moo@cows.org>
    Cows are Nice <nice@cows.moo>
    dogs <dogs@home.com>
    Great Pumpkin <pumpkin@patch.net>
    Jose Curvo <jcurvo@mymail.com>
    Local Favorite <how2recycle@palomar.info>
    Sea <freshness@coast.org>
    Standard Poodle <standard@poodle.com>
    triangles <build@home.com>
    and others...

    --
    corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:

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    From: corvid <bl@ckb.ird>
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
    Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 17:57:09 -0700
    Organization: The 27 Club
    Message-ID: <t1b6t5$1bpi$1@gioia.aioe.org>
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    3/21/22, 17:39, John Doe writes:
    The nym-shifting troll made the same mistake it is accusing me of
    making.

    Not even close. *You* set the followup header yourself, and stupidly redirected *your own* followup! Nobody else has done such a stupid
    thing, ever.



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 22 02:12:11 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Tue, 22 Mar 2022 02:05:59 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1bau7$ksm$1@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 53.9% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    9QrYiK58etym

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 22 02:30:30 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 22 Mar 2022 02:24:28 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1bc0s$47j$2@dont-email.me>.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

    tFch7OneGFEw

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Tue Mar 22 02:24:28 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

    Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
    except when it got a severe spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

    See also...
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

    Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

    Spanked Eddie...

    --
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

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    not-for-mail
    From: Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,free.spam
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Tue, 22 Mar 2022 02:05:59 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1bau7$ksm$1@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 53.9% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    9QrYiK58etym




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  • From David Eather@21:1/5 to John Doe on Tue Mar 22 17:52:27 2022
    On 13/03/2022 9:46 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    and your not going to note the illegal invasion of a sovereign country?
    Or the mass deportation of Ukrainian citizens to Russia from areas of
    occupied Ukraine?

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to David Eather on Tue Mar 22 11:17:16 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Nym-shifting, last used this ID, without "REMOVE", in 2012...

    --
    David Eather <eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au> wrote:

    Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 17:52:27 +1000
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    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
    Content-Language: en-US
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
    References: <t0klim$h8f$2@dont-email.me>
    From: David Eather <eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au>
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    On 13/03/2022 9:46 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
    Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    and your not going to note the illegal invasion of a sovereign country?
    Or the mass deportation of Ukrainian citizens to Russia from areas of occupied Ukraine?


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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Tue Mar 22 12:43:54 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

    Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
    except when it got a severe spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    Is Eddie a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

    See also...
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

    Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

    Spanked Eddie...

    --
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

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    not-for-mail
    From: Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,free.spam
    References: <t0klim$h8f$2@dont-email.me> <16dea4a6940ee88e$1$3423140$c2965a1b@news.newsdemon.com> <t1cb7s$gii$3@dont-email.me>
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:17:16 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1cb7s$gii$3@dont-email.me>.

    LNBWfbNKmxTK




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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 22 12:54:00 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 22 Mar 2022 12:43:54 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1cgaa$uad$2@dont-email.me>.

    Z8GQRN889Zxe

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 22 12:26:07 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 22 Mar 2022 11:17:16 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1cb7s$gii$3@dont-email.me>.

    LNBWfbNKmxTK

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to David Eather on Wed Mar 23 21:50:15 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    So many Australian trolls...

    --
    David Eather <eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au> wrote:

    Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2022 07:45:12 +1000
    MIME-Version: 1.0
    User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.7.0
    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
    Content-Language: en-US
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,free.spam
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    From: David Eather <eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au>
    In-Reply-To: <t1cb7s$gii$3@dont-email.me>
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    On 22/03/2022 9:17 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Nym-shifting, last used this ID, without "REMOVE", in 2012...

    Really? Nym Shifting? I always use "david eather". adding "REMOVE" to my email address hardly counts - most people are smart enough to work it
    out. I'm sorry John Doe, maybe you should stick to your picture books?


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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 23 21:51:34 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Wed, 23 Mar 2022 21:50:15 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1g4mm$3jj$2@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 53.9% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    vxwYBuM7u8ap

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 23 21:52:41 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Wed, 23 Mar 2022 21:51:57 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1g4ps$3jj$3@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 54.0% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    YbU5s0s6S4ka

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  • From David Eather@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Mar 24 07:45:12 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    On 22/03/2022 9:17 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Nym-shifting, last used this ID, without "REMOVE", in 2012...

    Really? Nym Shifting? I always use "david eather". adding "REMOVE" to my
    email address hardly counts - most people are smart enough to work it
    out. I'm sorry John Doe, maybe you should stick to your picture books?

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  • From corvid@21:1/5 to David Eather on Wed Mar 23 17:54:43 2022
    On 3/23/22 14:45, David Eather wrote:
    On 22/03/2022 9:17 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Nym-shifting, last used this ID, without "REMOVE", in 2012...

    Really? Nym Shifting? I always use "david eather". adding "REMOVE" to my email address hardly counts - most people are smart enough to work it
    out. I'm sorry John Doe, maybe you should stick to your picture books?

    When I began using a new computer, I didn't capitalize the letter "C" in corvid. He counts that as nym-shifting too.

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to corvid on Thu Mar 24 08:43:24 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    This nym-shifting troll is LYING, as usual. I have a few of its IDs listed right here, none of them are case sensitive.

    see also...
    =?UTF-8?Q?C=c3=b6rvid?= <bl@ckbirds.org> =?UTF-8?B?8J+QriBDb3dzIGFyZSBOaWNlIPCfkK4=?= <nice@cows.moo>
    Banders <snap@mailchute.com>
    Covid-19 <always.look@message.header>
    corvid <bl@ckb.ird>
    Corvid <bl@ckbirds.net>
    Corvid <bl@ckbirds.org>
    Cows Are Nice <cows@nice.moo>
    Cows are nice <moo@cows.org>
    Cows are Nice <nice@cows.moo>
    dogs <dogs@home.com>
    Great Pumpkin <pumpkin@patch.net>
    Jose Curvo <jcurvo@mymail.com>
    Local Favorite <how2recycle@palomar.info>
    Sea <freshness@coast.org>
    Standard Poodle <standard@poodle.com>
    triangles <build@home.com>
    and others...


    --
    corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:

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    From: corvid <bl@ckb.ird>
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
    Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 17:54:43 -0700
    Organization: The 27 Club
    Message-ID: <t1gfgk$pf$1@gioia.aioe.org>
    References: <t0klim$h8f$2@dont-email.me> <16dea4a6940ee88e$1$3423140$c2965a1b@news.newsdemon.com> <t1cb7s$gii$3@dont-email.me> <16df20ad3e16324e$10196$3317172$c2665aeb@news.newsdemon.com>
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    On 3/23/22 14:45, David Eather wrote:
    On 22/03/2022 9:17 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Nym-shifting, last used this ID, without "REMOVE", in 2012...

    Really? Nym Shifting? I always use "david eather". adding "REMOVE" to my
    email address hardly counts - most people are smart enough to work it
    out. I'm sorry John Doe, maybe you should stick to your picture books?

    When I began using a new computer, I didn't capitalize the letter "C" in corvid. He counts that as nym-shifting too.



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 24 08:59:23 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 24 Mar 2022 08:43:24 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1havc$luo$3@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 54.5% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    MQO6CqbIPfmr

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Thu Mar 24 10:06:19 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

    Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
    except when it got a severe spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    Is the stalker a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

    See also...
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

    Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

    Spanked Eddie...

    --
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

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    ams4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!fx11.ams4.POSTED!not-for-mail
    From: Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,free.spam
    References: <t0klim$h8f$2@dont-email.me> <16dea4a6940ee88e$1$3423140$c2965a1b@news.newsdemon.com> <t1cb7s$gii$3@dont-email.me> <16df20ad3e16324e$10196$3317172$c2665aeb@news.newsdemon.com> <t1gfgk$pf$1@gioia.aioe.org> <t1havc$luo$3@dont-email.me>
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 24 Mar 2022 08:43:24 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1havc$luo$3@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 54.5% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    MQO6CqbIPfmr




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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 24 10:28:10 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 24 Mar 2022 10:06:19 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1hfqq$h0m$7@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 54.8% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    kC05fBBHCyPW

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  • From David Eather@21:1/5 to John Doe on Fri Mar 25 06:21:26 2022
    On 13/03/2022 9:46 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    The Bastards - how dare they defend their own country against a brutal
    and illegal invasion and occupation!

    How can anyone expect the invader to understand that the reason these
    terrible things are happening to them is that they are invading? How
    about if they go home there will be no more "war crimes"?

    I say this as someone who has lived in Russia and is an admirer of many
    things Russian. It pains me that Putler is such a dick.

    And john doe is just a very unsophisticated, unskilled and basically
    stupid Putin Propaganda Puppet. Does anyone think Putin will stop if he
    gets a peace treaty all his guarantees and all of Ukraine north of the
    Dnieper river? Well let's see... He has said he wants to restore the
    Soviet Union... and he did invade Chechnya after they broke away, and
    also Georgia, Moldova and three previous bites at Ukraine. Throw away
    your guns of course we can trust him.

    Wait... wait.... Isn't that how hitler started?

    BTW if you need a good reason why humans should not be able to keep
    themselves alive forever, then dictators like Putler and the Chinese and
    North Korean dicks are a good reason.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 24 21:57:47 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 24 Mar 2022 21:55:41 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1ipct$cvr$2@dont-email.me>).

    Further, Troll Doe stated the following in message-id <svsh05$lbh$5@dont-email.me> posted Fri, 4 Mar 2022 08:01:09 -0000
    (UTC):

    Compared to other regulars, Bozo contributes practically nothing
    except insults to this group.

    Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe's post ratio
    to USENET has been 55.0% of its posts contributing "nothing except
    insults" to USENET.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    3F8rDEThl0wF

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to David Eather on Thu Mar 24 21:50:19 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    This Australian troll missed or avoided the point.

    The main, important, critical point is that encouraging civilians to throw Molotov cocktails at soldiers leads to soldiers killing civilians.

    The same media that encourages CIVILIANS to throw Molotov cocktails at
    SOLDIERS then whines about "war crimes".

    It's CRIMINAL to encourage CIVILIANS to throw Molotov cocktails at
    SOLDIERS. That's at least as criminal as any other incitement. NO,
    BIRDBRAIN, NOT BECAUSE IT HURTS SOLDIERS, BIRDBRAIN, BUT BECAUSE THEN THE SOLDIERS KILL CIVILIANS, BIRDBRAIN.

    Too many IDIOTS in the world...

    --
    David Eather <eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au> wrote:

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    Content-Language: en-US
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
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    From: David Eather <eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au>
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    On 13/03/2022 9:46 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
    Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    The Bastards - how dare they defend their own country against a brutal
    and illegal invasion and occupation!

    How can anyone expect the invader to understand that the reason these terrible things are happening to them is that they are invading? How
    about if they go home there will be no more "war crimes"?

    I say this as someone who has lived in Russia and is an admirer of many things Russian. It pains me that Putler is such a dick.

    And john doe is just a very unsophisticated, unskilled and basically
    stupid Putin Propaganda Puppet. Does anyone think Putin will stop if he
    gets a peace treaty all his guarantees and all of Ukraine north of the Dnieper river? Well let's see... He has said he wants to restore the
    Soviet Union... and he did invade Chechnya after they broke away, and
    also Georgia, Moldova and three previous bites at Ukraine. Throw away
    your guns of course we can trust him.

    Wait... wait.... Isn't that how hitler started?

    BTW if you need a good reason why humans should not be able to keep themselves alive forever, then dictators like Putler and the Chinese and North Korean dicks are a good reason.



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 24 21:54:37 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Thu, 24 Mar 2022 21:50:19 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1ip2q$cvr$1@dont-email.me>.

    opPdOxCIE95q

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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Thu Mar 24 23:26:17 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Thu, 24 Mar 2022 23:14:37 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1iu0t$mu4$1@dont-email.me>).

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    ZZGH5uvz2qbQ

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Mar 24 16:46:56 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    On 2022/03/24 2:50 p.m., John Doe wrote:
    This Australian troll missed or avoided the point.

    This Russian Sock Puppet missed the point.

    If someone invaded Canada and they were blowing up homes, schools, and hospitals you don't think I would be making Molotov Cocktails and taking
    my chances to defeat an aggressor?

    You are a fool, or a bot, and you really don't matter. I've wasted
    enough time

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Mar 24 17:22:33 2022
    On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 8:50:25 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:
    David Eather <eatREM...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
    On 13/03/2022 9:46 pm, John Doe wrote:
    Sometimes the media encourages Ukrainians to throw Molotov cocktails at
    Russian soldiers...

    Doesn't that lead to WAR CRIMES???

    Dirty laundry...

    The Bastards - how dare they defend their own country against a brutal
    and illegal invasion and occupation!

    How can anyone expect the invader to understand that the reason these terrible things are happening to them is that they are invading? How
    about if they go home there will be no more "war crimes"?

    I say this as someone who has lived in Russia and is an admirer of many things Russian. It pains me that Putler is such a dick.

    And john doe is just a very unsophisticated, unskilled and basically
    stupid Putin Propaganda Puppet. Does anyone think Putin will stop if he gets a peace treaty all his guarantees and all of Ukraine north of the Dnieper river? Well let's see... He has said he wants to restore the
    Soviet Union... and he did invade Chechnya after they broke away, and
    also Georgia, Moldova and three previous bites at Ukraine. Throw away
    your guns of course we can trust him.

    Wait... wait.... Isn't that how hitler started?

    BTW if you need a good reason why humans should not be able to keep themselves alive forever, then dictators like Putler and the Chinese and North Korean dicks are a good reason.

    This Australian troll missed or avoided the point.

    Actually he specifically rejected it, and you are too dumb to notice.

    And he's not a troll. You are, and people who disagree with you mostly don't seem to be. You seem to use the word as a form of abuse, rather than as any kind of meaningful description.

    The main, important, critical point is that encouraging civilians to throw Molotov cocktails at soldiers leads to soldiers killing civilians.

    Actually. Molotov cocktails are mostly thrown at tanks, and armoured personnel carriers, but that's more complicated than John Doe can deal with.

    The same media that encourages CIVILIANS to throw Molotov cocktails at SOLDIERS then whines about "war crimes".

    It's CRIMINAL to encourage CIVILIANS to throw Molotov cocktails at SOLDIERS. That's at least as criminal as any other incitement. NO, BIRDBRAIN, NOT BECAUSE IT HURTS SOLDIERS, BIRDBRAIN, BUT BECAUSE THEN THE SOLDIERS KILL CIVILIANS, BIRDBRAIN.

    According to John Doe, the invasion and the incidental killing of loads of civilians by bombing ans shelling their apartments isn't any kind of war crime.
    Definitely a bird-brained Putin sock-puppet.

    Too many IDIOTS in the world...

    And if John Doe ever realised that he was one of them, there might be one fewer. Fat chance of that.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to John Doe on Thu Mar 24 17:54:34 2022
    John Doe wrote:
    =============

    This Australian troll missed or avoided the point.

    ** A fictitious " point " you failed to actually post.

    The main, important, critical point is that encouraging civilians to throw Molotov cocktails at soldiers leads to soldiers killing civilians.

    ** Anyone doing such things is no longer a "civilian", but a non uniformed combatant.
    Hence are fair game.
    Same goes for anyone aiding, supplying materials, giving sanctuary or hiding such individuals.
    Note that air crew who bombed civilian parts of the UK, Germany or Japans did NOT get charged with war crimes.


    Too many IDIOTS in the world...

    ** ROTFL !!


    ... Phil

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to John Dope on Fri Mar 25 02:08:38 2022
    John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t1ip2q$cvr$1@dont-email.me:

    The main, important, critical point is that encouraging civilians
    to throw Molotov cocktails at soldiers leads to soldiers killing
    civilians.


    The soldiers were killing civillians BEFORE they responded with bottles
    of gasoline.

    You really are one stupid fuck.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc on Fri Mar 25 05:27:49 2022
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    The group idiot, a.k.a. Always Wrong...

    --
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    From: DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
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    John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t1ip2q$cvr$1@dont-email.me:

    The main, important, critical point is that encouraging civilians
    to throw Molotov cocktails at soldiers leads to soldiers killing
    civilians.


    The soldiers were killing civillians BEFORE they responded with bottles
    of gasoline.

    You really are one stupid fuck.



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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to John Robertson on Fri Mar 25 05:26:13 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    This troll missed or avoided the point.

    The main, important, critical point is that encouraging civilians to throw Molotov cocktails at soldiers leads to soldiers killing civilians.

    The same media that encourages CIVILIANS to throw Molotov cocktails at
    SOLDIERS then whines about "war crimes".

    It's CRIMINAL to encourage CIVILIANS to throw Molotov cocktails at
    SOLDIERS. That's at least as criminal as any other incitement. NO,
    BIRDBRAIN, NOT BECAUSE IT HURTS SOLDIERS, BIRDBRAIN, BUT BECAUSE THEN THE SOLDIERS KILL CIVILIANS, BIRDBRAIN.

    Silly troll...

    --
    John Robertson <spam@flippers.com> wrote:

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    On 2022/03/24 2:50 p.m., John Doe wrote:
    This Australian troll missed or avoided the point.

    This Russian Sock Puppet missed the point.

    If someone invaded Canada and they were blowing up homes, schools, and hospitals you don't think I would be making Molotov Cocktails and taking
    my chances to defeat an aggressor?

    You are a fool, or a bot, and you really don't matter. I've wasted
    enough time


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Phil Allison on Fri Mar 25 05:24:48 2022
    Is this supposed to be a con argument???



    Phil Allison <pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

    John Doe wrote:
    =============

    This Australian troll missed or avoided the point.

    ** A fictitious " point " you failed to actually post.

    The main, important, critical point is that encouraging civilians to
    throw
    Molotov cocktails at soldiers leads to soldiers killing civilians.

    ** Anyone doing such things is no longer a "civilian", but a non
    uniformed combatant.
    Hence are fair game.
    Same goes for anyone aiding, supplying materials, giving sanctuary or
    hiding such individuals.
    Note that air crew who bombed civilian parts of the UK, Germany or Japans
    did NOT get charged with war crimes.


    Too many IDIOTS in the world...

    ** ROTFL !!


    ... Phil





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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 25 05:55:24 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 25 Mar 2022 05:26:13 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1jjpk$ojk$2@dont-email.me>.

    gPUizAikt9Go

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 25 05:27:08 2022
    So many Australian trolls from a pipsqueak country...


    Bozo Bill Sloman, the most frequent troll in this group, is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be reasoned with...

    "the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
    (Bozo paraphrased)

    "the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
    (Bill Sloman)

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Fri Mar 25 11:53:42 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

    Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
    except when it got a severe spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    Is the stalker a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

    See also...
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

    Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

    Spanked Eddie...

    --
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

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    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 25 Mar 2022 05:26:13 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1jjpk$ojk$2@dont-email.me>.

    gPUizAikt9Go




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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 25 12:24:37 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 25 Mar 2022 11:53:54 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1kagh$qj4$2@dont-email.me>.

    EZVtYo6U/jxt

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 25 18:55:58 2022
    You know all of your stupid posts do nothing but muck up the group, and
    you doing so into other groups makes the stupid shit even worse.

    I would definitely make you eat lead if I ever found you. After
    using a baseball bat to break every finger and every bone in each of
    your pathetic, zero contribution hands. You would get it worse than
    any movie gore ever portrayed.

    You are the worst of Usenet. What? Too much of a pussy?
    Yeah, all you TrumpTarded idiots are pussies.

    Post your address, Usenet mucker upper.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc on Fri Mar 25 19:55:12 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The foulmouthed group idiot, a.k.a. Always Wrong

    Threatening to kill me?

    A tough guy on the Internet...

    --
    DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

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    From: DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
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    You know all of your stupid posts do nothing but muck up the group, and
    you doing so into other groups makes the stupid shit even worse.

    I would definitely make you eat lead if I ever found you. After
    using a baseball bat to break every finger and every bone in each of
    your pathetic, zero contribution hands. You would get it worse than
    any movie gore ever portrayed.

    You are the worst of Usenet. What? Too much of a pussy?
    Yeah, all you TrumpTarded idiots are pussies.

    Post your address, Usenet mucker upper.



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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 25 20:18:49 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 25 Mar 2022 19:55:12 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1l6n0$2fn$2@dont-email.me>.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

    XHhtpaXFYW+V

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to Edward Hernandez on Fri Mar 25 20:22:25 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Poor liddle Eddie got spanked and just can't get over it.

    Unless Eddie is nym-shifting, it has never posted anything NORMAL
    except when it got a severe spanking...

    https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

    Is the stalker a nym-shifting troll, or a newbie netcop wannabe?

    See also...
    Peter Weiner <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward H. <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>

    Eddie is an example for all newbies. Don't get spanked!

    Spanked Eddie...

    --
    Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com> wrote:

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    not-for-mail
    From: Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,free.spam
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    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 25 Mar 2022 19:55:12 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1l6n0$2fn$2@dont-email.me>.

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even follow it's own rules that it uses to troll other posters.

    XHhtpaXFYW+V




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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 25 20:23:08 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Fri, 25 Mar 2022 20:22:25 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1l8a1$2fn$6@dont-email.me>.

    AKxCuX0SuzSH

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  • From David Eather@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sat Mar 26 07:32:08 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    On 25/03/2022 7:50 am, John Doe wrote:
    This Australian troll missed or avoided the point.

    The main, important, critical point is that encouraging civilians to throw Molotov cocktails at soldiers leads to soldiers killing civilians.

    Take the illegally invading solders away and the civilians have nothing
    to throw at - A Molotov cocktail has a range of a few meters. I got the
    point. John Doe missed it even in his own post.

    How many "civilians" are there when you face extermination?

    How many "civilians" are there when your hospitals are destroyed by
    missiles?

    How many "civilians" are there when negotiated "safe corridors" are
    attacked by artillery, snipers and tanks?

    Fuck off John Doe - Putin is missing a brain cell and you are not one of
    them.

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to David Eather on Fri Mar 25 21:44:19 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    This Australian troll is acting stupid as can be.

    Taking a detour from the obvious point of the thread...

    If things are so dire for civilians (apparently it sucks), if Ukraine
    cannot defend its civilians against the "evil" Russian attackers, it
    should negotiate a deal.

    Ukraine cannot win. Grown-ups know that. Russia can easily nuke any number
    of Ukrainian cities if it wish. Ukrainian leaders need to accept defeat
    and save lives. Seems some of the Ukrainian refugees wanted to leave.

    Some busy Ukrainian intersections don't even have traffic lights or stop
    signs. How backwards is that. And it snows there!

    Too many suicidal and/or shortsighted people in the world...


    David Eather <eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au> wrote:

    On 25/03/2022 7:50 am, John Doe wrote:
    This Australian troll missed or avoided the point.

    The main, important, critical point is that encouraging civilians to throw >> Molotov cocktails at soldiers leads to soldiers killing civilians.

    Take the illegally invading solders away and the civilians have nothing
    to throw at - A Molotov cocktail has a range of a few meters. I got the point. John Doe missed it even in his own post.

    How many "civilians" are there when you face extermination?

    How many "civilians" are there when your hospitals are destroyed by
    missiles?

    How many "civilians" are there when negotiated "safe corridors" are
    attacked by artillery, snipers and tanks?

    Fuck off John Doe - Putin is missing a brain cell and you are not one of them.


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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to John Doe on Fri Mar 25 16:46:41 2022
    On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 2:44:26 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    If things are so dire for civilians (apparently it sucks), if Ukraine
    cannot defend its civilians against the "evil" Russian attackers, it
    should negotiate a deal.

    Yeah; since NATO countries are apparently a safe haven for the
    civilians displaced, Ukraine should definitely negotiate to
    become a NATO country.

    Russia can maybe take inches of soil, and pay in blood and treasure for it,
    but is not getting a good deal. Maybe Ukraine in NATO is the best that
    any party in this conflict can expect.

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  • From whit3rd@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 25 16:49:45 2022
    On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 4:46:45 PM UTC-7, whit3rd wrote:
    On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 2:44:26 PM UTC-7, John Doe wrote:

    If things are so dire for civilians (apparently it sucks), if Ukraine cannot defend its civilians against the "evil" Russian attackers, it
    should negotiate a deal.

    Yeah; since NATO countries are apparently a safe haven for the
    civilians displaced, Ukraine should definitely negotiate to
    become a NATO country.

    Russia can maybe take inches of soil, and pay in blood and treasure for it, but is not getting a good deal. Maybe Ukraine in NATO is the best that
    any party in this conflict can expect.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 25 17:19:47 2022
    Witless IDIOT puked:

    -------------------------------

    If things are so dire for civilians (apparently it sucks), if Ukraine cannot defend its civilians against the "evil" Russian attackers, it
    should negotiate a deal.

    Yeah; since NATO countries are apparently a safe haven for the
    civilians displaced, Ukraine should definitely negotiate to
    become a NATO country.


    ** FFS imbecile - THAT is the one thing Russia / Putin most wants to prevent ever happening.




    ..... Phil

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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to John Doe on Fri Mar 25 17:33:03 2022
    John Doe wrote:
    =============

    Ukraine cannot win. Grown-ups know that.

    ** Counts peurile fools like you out - sunshine.

    No need exists to defeat Russia, just seeing Russian troops leave would be a win.

    Russia can easily nuke any number of Ukrainian cities if it wish.

    ** The consequences of that action would be horrific.

    Ukrainian leaders need to accept defeat and save lives.

    ** Even if fighting ceases and Russia takes control - no invader will ever walk safety in the country.
    Sanctions will stay in place indefinitely, so Russia will lose all world influence and have its economy ruined.
    Russia cannot win, only lose.



    ...... Phil

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  • From Lasse Langwadt Christensen@21:1/5 to All on Fri Mar 25 17:44:48 2022
    l√łrdag den 26. marts 2022 kl. 01.19.51 UTC+1 skrev palli...@gmail.com:
    Witless IDIOT puked:

    -------------------------------

    If things are so dire for civilians (apparently it sucks), if Ukraine cannot defend its civilians against the "evil" Russian attackers, it should negotiate a deal.

    Yeah; since NATO countries are apparently a safe haven for the
    civilians displaced, Ukraine should definitely negotiate to
    become a NATO country.

    ** FFS imbecile - THAT is the one thing Russia / Putin most wants to prevent ever happening.

    and his actions have made Ukraine (all his other non-NATO neighbors) even more interested in joining,
    and given NATO new purpose and made them rearm

    afaiu Ukraine didn't fulfill the requirements for NATO membership anyway (yet)


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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to bitrex on Fri Mar 25 21:48:57 2022
    On 3/25/2022 9:39 PM, bitrex wrote:
    On 3/25/2022 8:33 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
    John Doe wrote:
    =============
    Ukraine cannot win. Grown-ups know that.

    ** Counts peurile fools like you out  -  sunshine.

      No need exists to defeat Russia, just seeing Russian troops leave
    would be a win.

    Russia can easily nuke any number of Ukrainian cities if it wish.

    **  The consequences of that action would be horrific.

    Ukrainian leaders need to accept defeat and save lives.

    **  Even if fighting ceases and Russia takes control - no invader will
    ever walk safety in the country.
          Sanctions will stay in place indefinitely, so Russia will lose
    all world influence and have its economy ruined.
          Russia cannot win, only lose.



    ......  Phil


    "In general, the main tasks of the first stage of the operation have
    been completed," Colonel General Sergei Rudskoy, first deputy chief of Russia's General Staff, said in a Friday briefing. "The combat potential
    of the armed forces of Ukraine has been significantly reduced, allowing
    us, I emphasize again, to focus the main efforts on achieving the main
    goal - the liberation of Donbas."

    Sounds like at least one Russian colonel is goalpoast-shifting, now.
    That seems good if so, it may mean Putin et al are still rational and
    seeing that the original plan isn't going at all to plan and they are
    looking for a face-saving way back.

    I believe China did something similar during the 1979 Sino-Vietnam war
    when they also did a "special military operation", were overconfident
    and the Vietnamese kicked the shit out of them pretty good for it, also.

    The other possibility is the Russian military may be changing its
    objectives on its own and making Putin an implicit "offer you can't
    refuse" though that's perhaps less likely.

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Phil Allison on Fri Mar 25 21:39:46 2022
    On 3/25/2022 8:33 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
    John Doe wrote:
    =============

    Ukraine cannot win. Grown-ups know that.

    ** Counts peurile fools like you out - sunshine.

    No need exists to defeat Russia, just seeing Russian troops leave would be a win.

    Russia can easily nuke any number of Ukrainian cities if it wish.

    ** The consequences of that action would be horrific.

    Ukrainian leaders need to accept defeat and save lives.

    ** Even if fighting ceases and Russia takes control - no invader will ever walk safety in the country.
    Sanctions will stay in place indefinitely, so Russia will lose all world influence and have its economy ruined.
    Russia cannot win, only lose.



    ...... Phil


    "In general, the main tasks of the first stage of the operation have
    been completed," Colonel General Sergei Rudskoy, first deputy chief of
    Russia's General Staff, said in a Friday briefing. "The combat potential
    of the armed forces of Ukraine has been significantly reduced, allowing
    us, I emphasize again, to focus the main efforts on achieving the main
    goal - the liberation of Donbas."

    Sounds like at least one Russian colonel is goalpoast-shifting, now.
    That seems good if so, it may mean Putin et al are still rational and
    seeing that the original plan isn't going at all to plan and they are
    looking for a face-saving way back.

    I believe China did something similar during the 1979 Sino-Vietnam war
    when they also did a "special military operation", were overconfident
    and the Vietnamese kicked the shit out of them pretty good for it, also.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Doe on Fri Mar 25 18:34:26 2022
    On Saturday, March 26, 2022 at 8:44:26 AM UTC+11, John Doe wrote:

    David Eather <eatREM...@tpg.com.au> wrote:

    On 25/03/2022 7:50 am, John Doe wrote:
    This Australian troll missed or avoided the point.

    The main, important, critical point is that encouraging civilians to throw >> Molotov cocktails at soldiers leads to soldiers killing civilians.

    Take the illegally invading solders away and the civilians have nothing
    to throw at - A Molotov cocktail has a range of a few meters. I got the point. John Doe missed it even in his own post.

    How many "civilians" are there when you face extermination?

    How many "civilians" are there when your hospitals are destroyed by missiles?

    How many "civilians" are there when negotiated "safe corridors" are attacked by artillery, snipers and tanks?

    Fuck off John Doe - Putin is missing a brain cell and you are not one of them.

    This Australian troll is acting stupid as can be.

    David Eather isn't stupid. John Doe clearly is

    Taking a detour from the obvious point of the thread...

    As if anything John Doe posts wasn't a detour into utter luacy.

    If things are so dire for civilians (apparently it sucks), if Ukraine
    cannot defend its civilians against the "evil" Russian attackers, it
    should negotiate a deal.

    It suspects - probably correctly - that any long term deal with Russia will leave Ukranian civilians a lot worse off than they are now.

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor>

    Ukraine cannot win.

    It hasn't lost yet, and Russian attempts to occupy towns have been unsuccessful, and lead to a lot of Russian casualties.

    Grown-ups know that. Russia can easily nuke any number of Ukrainian cities if it wished to.

    The response from the rest of the world isn't easily predictable, but a nuke dropped on the Russian leadership is one of the possibilities.

    Ukrainian leaders need to accept defeat and save lives.

    In John Doe's opinion.

    Seems some of the Ukrainian refugees wanted to leave.

    Some two million of them have left already.

    Some busy Ukrainian intersections don't even have traffic lights or stop signs. How backwards is that. And it snows there!

    Sounds like the northern parts of the USA.

    Too many suicidal and/or shortsighted people in the world...

    John Doe is remarkably short-sighted and nowhere near suicidal enough. Not that I particularly want him to commit suicide - any course of action that lead to him not posting his nonsense here would be equally acceptable.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to John Dope on Sat Mar 26 07:07:11 2022
    John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t1ld3j$pp1$3@dont-email.me:

    This Australian troll is acting stupid as can be.

    You are an abject idiot. The most retarded Usenet troll ever.
    That is what you are John Dope.

    Taking a detour from the obvious point of the thread...

    If things are so dire for civilians (apparently it sucks), if
    Ukraine cannot defend its civilians against the "evil" Russian
    attackers, it should negotiate a deal.

    You are a goddamned idiot. The Russians are INVADERS, and yes, you
    fucking retard, they are evil.

    Ukraine cannot win.

    You're an idiot who cannot even stay current on events. No
    surprise there. John Dope is about as stupid as it gets and is a
    fucking lame Usenet troll on top of that.

    Grown-ups know that.

    That completely rules an immature putz like you out.

    Russia can easily nuke
    any number of Ukrainian cities if it wish.

    Nuke? Not in any standing with the world they can't.

    And if the idiot pulls a stupid move like that Moscow will fall
    almost immediately.

    Ukrainian leaders need
    to accept defeat

    They were invaded. They have thus far repelled the goals of the
    invaders. You are a stupid, childish putz with no clue about the
    world.

    and save lives. Seems some of the Ukrainian
    refugees wanted to leave.

    You are an idiot. a couple million refugees left because their
    country was invaded by an idiot even more stupid than Donald John
    Trump, a previously thought to be impossible task.

    Some busy Ukrainian intersections don't even have traffic lights
    or stop signs.

    You are so stupid that you think all roads everywhere are built
    like those in the US. Another place where you could not be more
    wrong if you tried.

    How backwards is that.

    You are too stupid to grasp direction.

    And it snows there!

    You ain't real bright, boy.

    Too many suicidal and/or shortsighted people in the world...

    Go find that tall building and jump off. All you do here is
    clutter the group with your inane non-posts, and those where you do
    post content are devoid of any facts, like this one.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to John Doe on Sat Mar 26 06:55:00 2022
    John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t1l6n0$2fn$2@dont- email.me:

    Threatening to kill me?

    A tough guy on the Internet...


    Post your address, troll, Usenet pussy.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc on Sat Mar 26 11:31:05 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    Are you actively looking for me?

    I think this is worthy of further investigation...

    --
    DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

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    From: DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
    Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
    Subject: Re: OT: The media encouraging Ukrainians to attack Russian soldiers...
    Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2022 06:55:00 -0000 (UTC)
    Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
    Message-ID: <t1mdc4$1c3a$1@gioia.aioe.org>
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    Injection-Info: gioia.aioe.org; logging-data="45162"; posting-host="5U2ooNuM5UP0Ynf/GmOnCg.user.gioia.aioe.org"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@aioe.org";
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    John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t1l6n0$2fn$2@dont- email.me:

    Threatening to kill me?

    A tough guy on the Internet...


    Post your address, troll, Usenet pussy.


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 26 11:35:44 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
    incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Sat, 26 Mar 2022 11:31:05 -0000
    (UTC) in message-id <t1mthp$il6$1@dont-email.me>.

    W2E9CL1V56/A

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Edward Hernandez@21:1/5 to All on Sat Mar 26 12:15:14 2022
    XPost: free.spam

    The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

    The troll doesn't even know how to format a USENET post...

    And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id <sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

    The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
    breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
    CLUELESS...

    NOBODY likes the John Doe troll's contentless spam.

    And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
    Sat, 26 Mar 2022 11:55:37 -0000 (UTC) in message-id <t1muvp$il6$4@dont-email.me>).

    This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
    readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
    follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

    aLvMTrarI0LR

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc on Sat Mar 26 17:53:44 2022
    This tough guy is dodging the question...


    DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

    John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t1mthp$il6$1@dont- email.me:

    Are you actively looking for me?

    I think this is worthy of further investigation...


    Post you address, Usenet mucker upper... Pussy!


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to John Dope on Sat Mar 26 17:39:23 2022
    John Dope <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:t1mthp$il6$1@dont- email.me:

    Are you actively looking for me?

    I think this is worthy of further investigation...


    Post you address, Usenet mucker upper... Pussy!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From David Eather@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 27 08:12:40 2022

    Ukrainian leaders need to accept defeat and save lives.

    In John Doe's opinion.

    And only in John Doe's opinion.

    Russia has already lost this "war" in every important way. The Big Bear
    was respected, a member of the G8 and important in world affairs. Now
    ... not.

    Putin is exposed to everyone as a very poor leader who has trashed his country's economy even before sanctions so he could rebuild his military
    to invade his neighbors and recapture his dreams of the failed soviet union.

    Very bad, but still something he could spin domestically as a win except
    he has failed dismally. He is calling in reservists to the fight
    without fixing (it probably can't be fixed in the short term) the
    problems he has with supply - hence making the logistics nightmare even
    worse. Plus the reservists will die in greater numbers adding to discord
    at home and exposing the domestic putler propaganda as a lie.

    In one bold stroke he has turned the rest of Europe against Russia,
    destroyed his own economy for years and perhaps decades, exposed
    Russia's military as ineffective at everything other than parades and
    nuclear war, and exposed himself as an untrustworthy warmonger.

    I suspect some of his problems are from a pathological inability to
    delegate authority.

    Some busy Ukrainian intersections don't even have traffic lights or stop signs. How backwards is that. And it snows there!


    I do remember a guy called Neil Armstrong lived in a very backward area
    of the USA in the 50's and early 60's. As I remember it it went on to do something really big and actually much in advance of the soviets. So I
    am not altogether seeing John Does hysterical rantings as an actual "point"

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to David Eather on Sun Mar 27 13:21:43 2022
    David Eather <eatREMOVEher@tpg.com.au> wrote in news:16e00de9d8db42f4$2580$3423140$c2965a1b@news.newsdemon.com:



    Ukrainian leaders need to accept defeat and save lives.

    In John Doe's opinion.

    And only in John Doe's opinion.

    Russia has already lost this "war" in every important way. The Big
    Bear was respected, a member of the G8 and important in world
    affairs. Now ... not.

    Putin is exposed to everyone as a very poor leader who has trashed
    his country's economy even before sanctions so he could rebuild
    his military to invade his neighbors and recapture his dreams of
    the failed soviet union.

    Very bad, but still something he could spin domestically as a win
    except
    he has failed dismally. He is calling in reservists to the fight
    without fixing (it probably can't be fixed in the short term) the
    problems he has with supply - hence making the logistics nightmare
    even worse. Plus the reservists will die in greater numbers adding
    to discord at home and exposing the domestic putler propaganda as
    a lie.

    In one bold stroke he has turned the rest of Europe against
    Russia, destroyed his own economy for years and perhaps decades,
    exposed Russia's military as ineffective at everything other than
    parades and nuclear war, and exposed himself as an untrustworthy
    warmonger.

    I suspect some of his problems are from a pathological inability
    to delegate authority.

    Some busy Ukrainian intersections don't even have traffic lights
    or stop signs. How backwards is that. And it snows there!


    I do remember a guy called Neil Armstrong lived in a very backward
    area of the USA in the 50's and early 60's. As I remember it it
    went on to do something really big and actually much in advance of
    the soviets. So I am not altogether seeing John Does hysterical
    rantings as an actual "point"


    You are right on the money, David.

    Somebody should find and break Putin, but somebody over here should
    find and break every computer John Dope owns.

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