• U.S. Terrified at Prospect of Impending Russian Cyber Attacks- You shou

    From Fred Bloggs@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 24 22:35:32 2022
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/tech/russia-ukraine-us-sanctions-cyberattacks/index.html

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  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com on Fri Feb 25 03:22:54 2022
    On Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:35:32 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/tech/russia-ukraine-us-sanctions-cyberattacks/index.html

    Everything terrifies you.



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  • From Rick C@21:1/5 to John Robertson on Fri Feb 25 08:05:03 2022
    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 10:52:27 AM UTC-5, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2022/02/24 10:35 p.m., Fred Bloggs wrote:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/tech/russia-ukraine-us-sanctions-cyberattacks/index.html

    What, the US doesn't have it's own cyberattackers? I doubt that very
    much. Like the Russians they just don't talk about them...

    They do talk about them. It has been in the news that we are "considering" our cyber-response. That means we are trying like hell to disrupt their military actions (without divulging too much of our capabilities) and probably also civilian activities.
    If we can shut down power generation and water, it will likely disrupt the military somewhat.

    I can believe Russia is attacking the breakaway regions, Russia saw to it they had a plausible justification for that. But they are attacking the entire country of Ukraine with no justification at all. I don't think they've even acknowledged that. It'
    s going to be a cold winter in Europe and the world economy is going to suffer. The sanctions are going to hurt everyone.

    Interesting how the Chinese have reacted. I'm starting to agree that China is working toward an invasion of Taiwan. I can't imagine it will be any time soon though. I wonder how the Ukraine invasion will impact the world response to similar actions in
    Taiwan.

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to Fred Bloggs on Fri Feb 25 07:52:12 2022
    On 2022/02/24 10:35 p.m., Fred Bloggs wrote:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/tech/russia-ukraine-us-sanctions-cyberattacks/index.html

    What, the US doesn't have it's own cyberattackers? I doubt that very
    much. Like the Russians they just don't talk about them...

    John

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  • From David Brown@21:1/5 to Rick C on Fri Feb 25 17:53:08 2022
    On 25/02/2022 17:05, Rick C wrote:
    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 10:52:27 AM UTC-5, John Robertson
    wrote:
    On 2022/02/24 10:35 p.m., Fred Bloggs wrote:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/tech/russia-ukraine-us-sanctions-cyberattacks/index.html


    What, the US doesn't have it's own cyberattackers? I doubt that
    very much. Like the Russians they just don't talk about them...

    They do talk about them. It has been in the news that we are
    "considering" our cyber-response. That means we are trying like hell
    to disrupt their military actions (without divulging too much of our capabilities) and probably also civilian activities. If we can shut
    down power generation and water, it will likely disrupt the military somewhat.

    I can believe Russia is attacking the breakaway regions, Russia saw
    to it they had a plausible justification for that. But they are
    attacking the entire country of Ukraine with no justification at all.
    I don't think they've even acknowledged that. It's going to be a
    cold winter in Europe and the world economy is going to suffer. The sanctions are going to hurt everyone.


    Russia is invading /all/ of Ukraine. They (Putin and his cronies) say
    they don't intend to occupy the country, but want to force a regime
    change because they don't think the current Ukrainian leadership is
    democratic. (The hypocrisy is hard to believe.) If they succeed, they
    will install a puppet Russia-friendly government in Ukraine - and that government will promptly invite Russia to set up military bases.
    Technically, that won't be a Russian military occupation because they
    will be invited by the host country - like American military bases in
    European countries. The made-up justifications for this invasion are
    even more feeble than those of Israel or America in Iraq.

    Yes, it is a nasty business, and everyone suffers. Obviously the
    Ukrainians will suffer most, but the secondary effects of sanctions and economic costs will affect even those on the other side of the world.


    Interesting how the Chinese have reacted. I'm starting to agree that
    China is working toward an invasion of Taiwan. I can't imagine it
    will be any time soon though. I wonder how the Ukraine invasion will
    impact the world response to similar actions in Taiwan.


    I am sure China is watching and learning, and will take the world's
    reaction into account when considering what to do about Taiwan. China
    will not be making any hasty decisions here, and are trying to keep a
    neutral position - they will want Russia's political support if they
    invade Taiwan, so they want to keep on Russia's good side here, but they
    also don't want to suffer economically if Russia comes out worst.

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  • From Don Y@21:1/5 to Fred Bloggs on Fri Feb 25 11:58:56 2022
    On 2/24/2022 11:35 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/tech/russia-ukraine-us-sanctions-cyberattacks/index.html

    There may, actually, be an (long term) upside to such attacks.

    (cyber)Security always seems to be an afterthought in many designs.
    Even the internet protocols assumed benevolent actors.

    Perhaps, if a few businesses/industries incur significant losses,
    they may realize this is as costly as leaving the "cash register"
    unattended! (even moreso as the "cash register" has limits on how
    much it can contain but a cyber attack can expose *every* holding
    and asset in a company -- even "trivial" things like customer lists!)

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  • From M Kfivethousand@21:1/5 to Fred Bloggs on Thu Mar 31 15:16:43 2022
    On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 12:35:39 AM UTC-6, Fred Bloggs wrote:
    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/24/tech/russia-ukraine-us-sanctions-cyberattacks/index.html

    The Russians have already committed nuclear havoc in the Red Forest

    they kicked up radioactive dust and set fires so they exposed themselves to significant radioactivity

    The international organization that monitors radioactivity warned that levels rose on the first day of attack

    The Russian soldiers increasingly made it worse over the month and were exposed for a month

    Expected outcome

    Seven buses of soldiers have been taken to the specialized radioactivity hospital in Belarus

    mk5000


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