• OT: Transitory relief from inflation?

    From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 11 07:27:13 2022
  • From jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com@21:1/5 to edward.ming.lee@gmail.com on Fri Feb 11 09:05:37 2022
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 07:27:13 -0800 (PST), Ed Lee
    <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

    Dear Mr. President:

    When can we get some transitory relief from permanent inflation?

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/10/joe-biden-snaps-at-wise-guy-lester-holt-for-noting-how-wrong-he-got-it-on-inflation/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/out-of-control-inflation-could-see-the-fed-get-more-aggressive-morning-brief-100814540.html


    Government must keep interest rates near zero, and spending
    exponentially increasing, or get blamed for the stock market crashing.

    The Fed has painted itself into a corner. What are economists for
    anyhow?



    --

    I yam what I yam - Popeye

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Fri Feb 11 13:45:54 2022
    On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 1:44:56 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:fb44c96a-fbf6-4318...@googlegroups.com:
    Dear Mr. President:

    When can we get some transitory relief from permanent inflation?
    Put that pistol in your mouth and fire that mother up.

    Your open violent racist expression is undeniable.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com on Fri Feb 11 21:47:36 2022
    jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in news:jm5d0hda29f75p0sca3794tjfdbg4hs0qe@4ax.com:

    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 07:27:13 -0800 (PST), Ed Lee
    <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

    Dear Mr. President:

    When can we get some transitory relief from permanent inflation?

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/10/joe-biden-snaps-at-wise-guy-lester-ho >>lt-for-noting-how-wrong-he-got-it-on-inflation/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/out-of-control-inflation-could-see-t >>he-fed-get-more-aggressive-morning-brief-100814540.html


    Government must keep interest rates near zero, and spending
    exponentially increasing, or get blamed for the stock market
    crashing.

    The Fed has painted itself into a corner. What are economists for
    anyhow?

    You are a goddamned retard, and you have been standing, painted into
    a corner in this group since 2015 at a minimum.
    You could not be more stupid if you tried, unintelligent punk.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Fri Feb 11 21:44:46 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:fb44c96a-fbf6-4318-b414-1dc43e7ff139n@googlegroups.com:

    Dear Mr. President:

    When can we get some transitory relief from permanent inflation?

    Put that pistol in your mouth and fire that mother up.

    You are a permanent disappointment to real patriotic immigrants
    across the nation.

    Maybe you should go look the word permanent up first next time,
    dumbfuck.

    You permanently need to be ignored in this group.
    Transition that, fuckhead. Start with the first directive.
    Pistol for breakfast for Lee.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Fri Feb 11 22:15:28 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:93afa7be-3dd2-49d2-b662-27cb1fc63fe3n@googlegroups.com:

    On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 1:44:56 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:fb44c96a-fbf6-4318...@googlegroups.com:
    Dear Mr. President:

    When can we get some transitory relief from permanent
    inflation?
    Put that pistol in your mouth and fire that mother up.

    Your open violent racist expression is undeniable.


    This from a political nitwit total retard who thinks "permanent
    inflation" is even a thing.

    The suggestion was merely because you sully the human gene pool,
    idiot, not your race or other members thereof.

    Try again, dumbfuck.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 11 22:33:41 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:516e85ae-b2d8-4140-aa73-5f2fc6c4e0ccn@googlegroups.com:

    snip

    Transitory inflation is not either, except for the self proclaimed
    democrats. Oh yeah, it's transiting to higher rate and we need
    transition relief. It's not political, it's economics.

    You're not stupid, you are a TrumpTainted TrumpTarded abject idiot
    who picked a BAD HAYRIDE to jump onto.

    Near impossible task... back off and admit you fucked up and save a
    little face, boy.

    Likelyhood of a Trump retard doing that... near NIL.
    Y'all Trump Cult dumbfucks ain't real bright.

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Fri Feb 11 14:27:39 2022
    On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 2:15:38 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:93afa7be-3dd2-49d2...@googlegroups.com:
    On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 1:44:56 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:fb44c96a-fbf6-4318...@googlegroups.com:
    Dear Mr. President:

    When can we get some transitory relief from permanent
    inflation?
    Put that pistol in your mouth and fire that mother up.

    Your open violent racist expression is undeniable.

    This from a political nitwit total retard who thinks "permanent
    inflation" is even a thing.

    Transitory inflation is not either, except for the self proclaimed democrats. Oh yeah, it's transiting to higher rate and we need transition relief. It's not political, it's economics.

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Fri Feb 11 14:58:44 2022
    On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:516e85ae-b2d8-4140...@googlegroups.com:

    snip
    Transitory inflation is not either, except for the self proclaimed democrats. Oh yeah, it's transiting to higher rate and we need
    transition relief. It's not political, it's economics.

    You're not stupid,

    Thank you. There is nothing being smart or stupid. I am just asking for relief from 40 year high inflation of 7.5%, from past several years of borrow and spend by the government. Even in Trump's years, it was democratic congress doing big spending.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sat Feb 12 00:04:32 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:989392b7-2256-482c-af07-85b407e23c53n@googlegroups.com:

    On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:516e85ae-b2d8-4140...@googlegroups.com:

    snip
    Transitory inflation is not either, except for the self
    proclaimed democrats. Oh yeah, it's transiting to higher rate
    and we need transition relief. It's not political, it's
    economics.

    You're not stupid,

    Thank you. There is nothing being smart or stupid. I am just
    asking for relief from 40 year high inflation of 7.5%, from past
    several years of borrow and spend by the government. Even in
    Trump's years, it was democratic congress doing big spending.


    OMG you are an abject idiot. Nice RETARDED snip of what I wrote,
    Republitard dumbfuck.

    Restored: Do not snip my text again, jackass.

    " You're not stupid, you are a TrumpTainted TrumpTarded abject idiot
    who picked a BAD HAYRIDE to jump onto."


    Why has the republitards called them "the do nothing democrats" if
    what you barked out of your upper anus is true? Oh that's right...
    because it is NOT true at all. McConnell let a stack of bills sit on
    his desk for YEARS, you pathetic know nothing utter idiot.
    So how did "the Democrats" do all thie "big spending"?

    Oh... that's right... you retarded Trumpanzee idiots need to make
    a flase claim to offset the DEBT that TRUMP ALONE generated.
    You apparently have no clue about his retarded, ADVISED AGAINST by
    the best economic scholars, pathetic "trade war". Ask a failed
    farmer how he feels about Trump's retarded moves.

    You could not be more stupid if you tried, boy.

    ANY "spending bill" has to go through the Senate, idiot. And guess
    what NEVER happened. Whereas Trump, on the other hand, killed
    programs and even harmed the military he claimed he did so much for
    by killing some of their programs as well... all to fund his illicit
    "wall".

    You're not smart, you are a TrumpTainted TrumpTarded abject idiot
    who picked a BAD HAYRIDE to jump onto.

    You could not be more stupid if you tried, fuckhead.

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Fri Feb 11 16:15:27 2022
    On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 4:04:49 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:989392b7-2256-482c...@googlegroups.com:
    On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:516e85ae-b2d8-4140...@googlegroups.com:

    snip
    Transitory inflation is not either, except for the self
    proclaimed democrats. Oh yeah, it's transiting to higher rate
    and we need transition relief. It's not political, it's
    economics.

    You're not stupid,

    Thank you. There is nothing being smart or stupid. I am just
    asking for relief from 40 year high inflation of 7.5%, from past
    several years of borrow and spend by the government. Even in
    Trump's years, it was democratic congress doing big spending.


    Restored: Do not snip my text again,

    Nobody needs to read irrelevant emotional outburst.

    So how did "the Democrats" do all thie "big spending"?

    Increased Fed borrowing from 5T to 9T with the democratic controlled house. Total debt of 27T, around 130% annual GDP.

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  • From John Larkin@21:1/5 to edward.ming.lee@gmail.com on Fri Feb 11 16:24:23 2022
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:45:54 -0800 (PST), Ed Lee
    <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 1:44:56 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:fb44c96a-fbf6-4318...@googlegroups.com:
    Dear Mr. President:

    When can we get some transitory relief from permanent inflation?
    Put that pistol in your mouth and fire that mother up.

    Your open violent racist expression is undeniable.

    Ignore the creeps here; there is an infinite supply.

    And they don't, can't design electronics.

    --

    If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
    but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties. Francis Bacon

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com on Fri Feb 11 17:11:20 2022
    On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 4:05:51 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 07:27:13 -0800 (PST), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    Dear Mr. President:

    When can we get some transitory relief from permanent inflation?

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/10/joe-biden-snaps-at-wise-guy-lester-holt-for-noting-how-wrong-he-got-it-on-inflation/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/out-of-control-inflation-could-see-the-fed-get-more-aggressive-morning-brief-100814540.html
    Government must keep interest rates near zero, and spending
    exponentially increasing, or get blamed for the stock market crashing.

    The Fed has painted itself into a corner. What are economists for
    anyhow?

    Ask any right-winger. They don't understand much about economics, but they do know what they like to hear, and get irritated when people tell them stuff that is too complicated for them to follow.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Fri Feb 11 17:25:56 2022
    On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 9:58:51 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:516e85ae-b2d8-4140...@googlegroups.com:

    snip
    Transitory inflation is not either, except for the self proclaimed democrats. Oh yeah, it's transiting to higher rate and we need transition relief. It's not political, it's economics.

    You're not stupid,

    Ed Lee then snipped the text that pointed out that he wasn't just stupid but also gullible.

    Thank you. There is nothing being smart or stupid. I am just asking for relief from 40 year high inflation of 7.5%, from past several years of borrow and spend by the government. Even in Trump's years, it was democratic congress doing big spending.

    This is what high inflation looks like

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation_in_the_Weimar_Republic

    The US economy has been run at an inflation rate of about 2% for about forty years now, which was a deliberate choice. The current 7.5% is a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed is going to reduce the support it has been providing for the economy
    and it can be expected to come back down again.

    Brain-washed Republicans always blame the Democrats for "big spending" - they spend just as much when they are in power, but on what they imagine to be respectable projects.

    Ed Lee is just reposting Republican political propaganda that he doesn't entirely understand, which is actually pretty stupid.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sat Feb 12 01:26:38 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:85a06b1c-89a1-429f-88b3-0838edd6e1aan@googlegroups.com:

    On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 4:04:49 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:989392b7-2256-482c...@googlegroups.com:
    On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 2:33:58 PM UTC-8,
    DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:516e85ae-b2d8-4140...@googlegroups.com:

    snip
    Transitory inflation is not either, except for the self
    proclaimed democrats. Oh yeah, it's transiting to higher
    rate and we need transition relief. It's not political, it's
    economics.

    You're not stupid,

    Thank you. There is nothing being smart or stupid. I am just
    asking for relief from 40 year high inflation of 7.5%, from
    past several years of borrow and spend by the government. Even
    in Trump's years, it was democratic congress doing big
    spending.


    Restored: Do not snip my text again,

    Nobody needs to read irrelevant emotional outburst.

    So how did "the Democrats" do all thie "big spending"?

    Increased Fed borrowing from 5T to 9T with the democratic
    controlled house. Total debt of 27T, around 130% annual GDP.


    Still 100% oblivious about the pandemic's effects I see. You are a
    hopeless Trump Cult total retard, Lee-O-Tard.

    Remember those checks? Those were for us. Businesses got more
    because they had to deal with total retards like you failing to abide
    by the mask protocols that worked in so many other countries.

    You are an abject idiot, boy.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Fri Feb 11 17:33:28 2022
    On Saturday, February 12, 2022 at 11:24:39 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
    On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 13:45:54 -0800 (PST), Ed Lee
    <edward....@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, February 11, 2022 at 1:44:56 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:fb44c96a-fbf6-4318...@googlegroups.com:
    Dear Mr. President:

    When can we get some transitory relief from permanent inflation?

    Put that pistol in your mouth and fire that mother up.

    Your open violent racist expression is undeniable.

    Except there wasn't anything racist about it. It wasn't exactly violent either - the invitation was for Ed Lee to blow his own brains out. Since Ed Lee doesn't seem to have any functional brain tissue, it could be seen as an invitation for Ed Lee to
    test the proposition that he doesn't use his brain at all.

    Ignore the creeps here; there is an infinite supply.

    Ed Lee and John Larkin are definitely part of the creep pool.

    And they don't, can't design electronics.

    Not in any way that John Larkin can understand, because he doesn't understand what "electronic design" is about and imagines that his own persistent tinkering constitutes a design process.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to John Larkin on Sat Feb 12 01:31:23 2022
    John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote in news:tevd0h979430ssjjv14uogf3tetbpjb4sb@4ax.com:

    Ignore the creeps here; there is an infinite supply.

    And they don't, can't design electronics.

    --

    As if John Larkin could have an actual debate. Run, Johnny, run.

    Oh yeah, and don't forget to spout your lame electronics horseshit
    claim. That's right... you already pulled that stupid shit.

    YOU asked for info about masks. *I* provided, then YOU scurried off
    like the little fucking TrumpTarded cockroach that you are.

    You, John Larkin, are a pussy, not a man.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Sat Feb 12 01:34:48 2022
    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:b34fb792-7991-4ca6-90b5-77240131e3f9n@googlegroups.com:

    Ed Lee is just reposting Republican political propaganda that he
    doesn't entirely understand, which is actually pretty stupid.

    +1 gazillion

    Ding! Spot On, Bill. very stupid, in fact.

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 15 06:45:39 2022
    The US economy has been run at an inflation rate of about 2% for about forty years now, which was a deliberate choice. The current 7.5% is a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed is going to reduce the support it has been providing for the
    economy and it can be expected to come back down again.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    Almost 10% now. Are you still expecting 2%?

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Tue Feb 15 18:56:02 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:0e195895-8fcc-4ae3-a261-4ca9b97797f3n@googlegroups.com:

    The US economy has been run at an inflation rate of about 2% for
    about fo
    rty years now, which was a deliberate choice. The current 7.5% is
    a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed is going to reduce
    the support it has been providing for the economy and it can be
    expected to come back down again.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.
    html

    Almost 10% now. Are you still expecting 2%?


    You're an idiot now, just like you were before, and likely even
    before Trump bent your brain.

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 15 12:38:30 2022
  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Tue Feb 15 18:54:09 2022
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    The US economy has been run at an inflation rate of about 2% for about forty years now, which was a deliberate choice. The current 7.5% is a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed is going to reduce the support it has been providing for the
    economy and it can be expected to come back down again.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    Almost 10% now. Are you still expecting 2%?

    Ed Lee produced this in reaction to a post I'd made. He has snipped out all the thread information and most of what I posted.

    I do expect inflation to come down once the Fed's interventions have had time to work. I'm not silly enough to expect this to happen overnight.

    "Ed Lee is just re-posting Republican political propaganda that he doesn't entirely understand, which is actually pretty stupid."

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 16 03:10:57 2022
    Bozo Bill Sloman is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be
    reasoned with...

    "the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
    (Bozo paraphrased)

    "the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
    (Bill Sloman)

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  • From John Doe@21:1/5 to All on Wed Feb 16 03:12:16 2022
    Bozo Bill Sloman is an attention-craving chronic liar who cannot be
    reasoned with...

    "the Mueller investigation was about Trump only because Trump made it so"
    (Bozo paraphrased)

    "the concepts "male" and "female" are essentially social constructions"
    (Bill Sloman)

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Tue Feb 15 19:35:48 2022
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    The US economy has been run at an inflation rate of about 2% for about forty years now, which was a deliberate choice. The current 7.5% is a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed is going to reduce the support it has been providing for the
    economy and it can be expected to come back down again.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    Almost 10% now. Are you still expecting 2%?
    Ed Lee produced this in reaction to a post I'd made. He has snipped out all the thread information and most of what I posted.

    I do expect inflation to come down once the Fed's interventions have had time to work. I'm not silly enough to expect this to happen overnight.

    "Ed Lee is just re-posting Republican political propaganda that he doesn't entirely understand, which is actually pretty stupid."

    You think these are all republican political propaganda?

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/10/joe-biden-snaps-at-wise-guy-lester-holt-for-noting-how-wrong-he-got-it-on-inflation/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/out-of-control-inflation-could-see-the-fed-get-more-aggressive-morning-brief-100814540.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inflation-biden-congress/

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/10/not-encouraging-breaking-down-the-latest-inflation-numbers-00007715

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Tue Feb 15 22:24:03 2022
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:35:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:

    The US economy has been run at an inflation rate of about 2% for about forty years now, which was a deliberate choice. The current 7.5% is a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed is going to reduce the support it has been providing for the
    economy and it can be expected to come back down again.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    Almost 10% now. Are you still expecting 2%?

    Ed Lee produced this in reaction to a post I'd made. He has snipped out all the thread information and most of what I posted.

    I do expect inflation to come down once the Fed's interventions have had time to work. I'm not silly enough to expect this to happen overnight.

    "Ed Lee is just re-posting Republican political propaganda that he doesn't entirely understand, which is actually pretty stupid."

    You think these are all republican political propaganda?

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/10/joe-biden-snaps-at-wise-guy-lester-holt-for-noting-how-wrong-he-got-it-on-inflation/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/out-of-control-inflation-could-see-the-fed-get-more-aggressive-morning-brief-100814540.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inflation-biden-congress/

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/10/not-encouraging-breaking-down-the-latest-inflation-numbers-00007715

    The New York Post piece probably is. The problem isn't so much in the fact that there is some inflation at the moment - which everybody is reporting - as in your take on it, which blames it entirely on the Democrat party and their - imagined -
    tolerance of it in the past.

    Trying to suggest that I'm denying that there is some inflation at the moment, when I was actually being rude about your attempts to blame it onto the Democrats, is remarkably stupid. If you weren't already known to be remarkably stupid, I might also
    call it dishonest. but your stupidity is a sufficient explanation.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Wed Feb 16 07:25:12 2022
    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:c95ac68a-0dfc-4f82-a6fc-02f929ebf2e2n@googlegroups.com:

    The problem isn't so much in the fact that there is some inflation
    at the moment - which everybody is reporting - as in your take on
    it, which blames it entirely on the Democrat party and their -
    imagined - tolerance of it in the past.


    Nailed it!

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  • From Billy Build@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Wed Feb 16 06:22:10 2022
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 11:25:23 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in news:c95ac68a-0dfc-4f82...@googlegroups.com:
    The problem isn't so much in the fact that there is some inflation
    at the moment - which everybody is reporting - as in your take on
    it, which blames it entirely on the Democrat party and their -
    imagined - tolerance of it in the past.

    Nailed it!

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Wed Feb 16 13:45:40 2022
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:24:12 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:35:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:

    The US economy has been run at an inflation rate of about 2% for about forty years now, which was a deliberate choice. The current 7.5% is a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed is going to reduce the support it has been providing for
    the economy and it can be expected to come back down again.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    Almost 10% now. Are you still expecting 2%?

    Ed Lee produced this in reaction to a post I'd made. He has snipped out all the thread information and most of what I posted.

    I do expect inflation to come down once the Fed's interventions have had time to work. I'm not silly enough to expect this to happen overnight.

    "Ed Lee is just re-posting Republican political propaganda that he doesn't entirely understand, which is actually pretty stupid."

    You think these are all republican political propaganda?

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/10/joe-biden-snaps-at-wise-guy-lester-holt-for-noting-how-wrong-he-got-it-on-inflation/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/out-of-control-inflation-could-see-the-fed-get-more-aggressive-morning-brief-100814540.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inflation-biden-congress/

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/10/not-encouraging-breaking-down-the-latest-inflation-numbers-00007715
    The New York Post piece probably is. The problem isn't so much in the fact that there is some inflation at the moment - which everybody is reporting - as in your take on it, which blames it entirely on the Democrat party and their - imagined -
    tolerance of it in the past.

    I don't see anything unusual from the NYP, they only quoted what Biden said.

    Blaming media reports for political propaganda is disingenuous. Biden/Powell is doing too little too late. PPI +1% (+12% annual rate) is not just a little inflation.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Wed Feb 16 23:42:48 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:c4f91620-a45e-4927- 90ab-958632b5b5afn@googlegroups.com:

    Biden/Powell is doing too little too late.

    Like your whore mother did when she failed to pull the flush handle
    and saddled the world with a piece of shit who named himself "Ed".

    Way too little way too late.

    But President Biden and VP Harris are doing just fine, considering
    that their burden is far more than ANY previous administration.

    Yo are one stupid turd, boy.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Wed Feb 16 19:44:43 2022
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:24:12 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:35:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:

    The US economy has been run at an inflation rate of about 2% for about forty years now, which was a deliberate choice. The current 7.5% is a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed is going to reduce the support it has been providing for
    the economy and it can be expected to come back down again.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    Almost 10% now. Are you still expecting 2%?

    Ed Lee produced this in reaction to a post I'd made. He has snipped out all the thread information and most of what I posted.

    I do expect inflation to come down once the Fed's interventions have had time to work. I'm not silly enough to expect this to happen overnight.

    "Ed Lee is just re-posting Republican political propaganda that he doesn't entirely understand, which is actually pretty stupid."

    You think these are all republican political propaganda?

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/10/joe-biden-snaps-at-wise-guy-lester-holt-for-noting-how-wrong-he-got-it-on-inflation/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/out-of-control-inflation-could-see-the-fed-get-more-aggressive-morning-brief-100814540.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inflation-biden-congress/

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/10/not-encouraging-breaking-down-the-latest-inflation-numbers-00007715

    The New York Post piece probably is. The problem isn't so much in the fact that there is some inflation at the moment - which everybody is reporting - as in your take on it, which blames it entirely on the Democrat party and their - imagined -
    tolerance of it in the past.

    I don't see anything unusual from the NYP, they only quoted what Biden said.

    Not exactly true. Your reading comprehension probably isn't good enough to lets you see what they were actually doing.

    Blaming media reports for political propaganda is disingenuous. Biden/Powell is doing too little too late. PPI +1% (+12% annual rate) is not just a little inflation.

    Media reports frequently do constitute political propaganda. Your reading comprehension isn't good enough for you to notice.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Wed Feb 16 20:32:52 2022
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:24:12 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:35:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:

    The US economy has been run at an inflation rate of about 2% for about forty years now, which was a deliberate choice. The current 7.5% is a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed is going to reduce the support it has been providing
    for the economy and it can be expected to come back down again.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    Almost 10% now. Are you still expecting 2%?

    Ed Lee produced this in reaction to a post I'd made. He has snipped out all the thread information and most of what I posted.

    I do expect inflation to come down once the Fed's interventions have had time to work. I'm not silly enough to expect this to happen overnight.

    "Ed Lee is just re-posting Republican political propaganda that he doesn't entirely understand, which is actually pretty stupid."

    You think these are all republican political propaganda?

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/10/joe-biden-snaps-at-wise-guy-lester-holt-for-noting-how-wrong-he-got-it-on-inflation/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/out-of-control-inflation-could-see-the-fed-get-more-aggressive-morning-brief-100814540.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inflation-biden-congress/

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/10/not-encouraging-breaking-down-the-latest-inflation-numbers-00007715

    The New York Post piece probably is. The problem isn't so much in the fact that there is some inflation at the moment - which everybody is reporting - as in your take on it, which blames it entirely on the Democrat party and their - imagined -
    tolerance of it in the past.

    I don't see anything unusual from the NYP, they only quoted what Biden said.
    Not exactly true. Your reading comprehension probably isn't good enough to lets you see what they were actually doing.
    Blaming media reports for political propaganda is disingenuous. Biden/Powell is doing too little too late. PPI +1% (+12% annual rate) is not just a little inflation.
    Media reports frequently do constitute political propaganda. Your reading comprehension isn't good enough for you to notice.

    When you lie often enough, you probably believe in your own lies.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Wed Feb 16 22:14:21 2022
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 3:33:03 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:24:12 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:35:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:

    The US economy has been run at an inflation rate of about 2% for about forty years now, which was a deliberate choice. The current 7.5% is a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed is going to reduce the support it has been providing
    for the economy and it can be expected to come back down again.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    Almost 10% now. Are you still expecting 2%?

    Ed Lee produced this in reaction to a post I'd made. He has snipped out all the thread information and most of what I posted.

    I do expect inflation to come down once the Fed's interventions have had time to work. I'm not silly enough to expect this to happen overnight.

    "Ed Lee is just re-posting Republican political propaganda that he doesn't entirely understand, which is actually pretty stupid."

    You think these are all republican political propaganda?

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/10/joe-biden-snaps-at-wise-guy-lester-holt-for-noting-how-wrong-he-got-it-on-inflation/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/out-of-control-inflation-could-see-the-fed-get-more-aggressive-morning-brief-100814540.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inflation-biden-congress/

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/10/not-encouraging-breaking-down-the-latest-inflation-numbers-00007715

    The New York Post piece probably is. The problem isn't so much in the fact that there is some inflation at the moment - which everybody is reporting - as in your take on it, which blames it entirely on the Democrat party and their - imagined -
    tolerance of it in the past.

    I don't see anything unusual from the NYP, they only quoted what Biden said.
    Not exactly true. Your reading comprehension probably isn't good enough to lets you see what they were actually doing.

    Blaming media reports for political propaganda is disingenuous. Biden/Powell is doing too little too late. PPI +1% (+12% annual rate) is not just a little inflation.
    Media reports frequently do constitute political propaganda. Your reading comprehension isn't good enough for you to notice.

    When you lie often enough, you probably believe in your own lies.

    You ought to know, but you probably think that the misapprehensions that you are passing on are true, rather than politically motivated deceit.

    --
    Bil Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Thu Feb 17 06:47:34 2022
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:14:33 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 3:33:03 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:24:12 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:35:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:

    The US economy has been run at an inflation rate of about 2% for about forty years now, which was a deliberate choice. The current 7.5% is a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed is going to reduce the support it has been
    providing for the economy and it can be expected to come back down again.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    Almost 10% now. Are you still expecting 2%?

    Ed Lee produced this in reaction to a post I'd made. He has snipped out all the thread information and most of what I posted.

    I do expect inflation to come down once the Fed's interventions have had time to work. I'm not silly enough to expect this to happen overnight.

    "Ed Lee is just re-posting Republican political propaganda that he doesn't entirely understand, which is actually pretty stupid."

    You think these are all republican political propaganda?

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/10/joe-biden-snaps-at-wise-guy-lester-holt-for-noting-how-wrong-he-got-it-on-inflation/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/out-of-control-inflation-could-see-the-fed-get-more-aggressive-morning-brief-100814540.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inflation-biden-congress/

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/10/not-encouraging-breaking-down-the-latest-inflation-numbers-00007715

    The New York Post piece probably is. The problem isn't so much in the fact that there is some inflation at the moment - which everybody is reporting - as in your take on it, which blames it entirely on the Democrat party and their - imagined -
    tolerance of it in the past.

    I don't see anything unusual from the NYP, they only quoted what Biden said.
    Not exactly true. Your reading comprehension probably isn't good enough to lets you see what they were actually doing.

    Blaming media reports for political propaganda is disingenuous. Biden/Powell is doing too little too late. PPI +1% (+12% annual rate) is not just a little inflation.
    Media reports frequently do constitute political propaganda. Your reading comprehension isn't good enough for you to notice.

    When you lie often enough, you probably believe in your own lies.
    You ought to know, but you probably think that the misapprehensions that you are passing on are true, rather than politically motivated deceit.

    “Well, you’re being a wise guy with me a little bit,”

    We need you to educate us a little bit. Which part of the article is propaganda?

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Thu Feb 17 18:09:34 2022
    On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:47:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:14:33 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 3:33:03 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:24:12 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:35:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:

    The US economy has been run at an inflation rate of about 2% for about forty years now, which was a deliberate choice. The current 7.5% is a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed is going to reduce the support it has been
    providing for the economy and it can be expected to come back down again.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    Almost 10% now. Are you still expecting 2%?

    Ed Lee produced this in reaction to a post I'd made. He has snipped out all the thread information and most of what I posted.

    I do expect inflation to come down once the Fed's interventions have had time to work. I'm not silly enough to expect this to happen overnight.

    "Ed Lee is just re-posting Republican political propaganda that he doesn't entirely understand, which is actually pretty stupid."

    You think these are all republican political propaganda?

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/10/joe-biden-snaps-at-wise-guy-lester-holt-for-noting-how-wrong-he-got-it-on-inflation/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/out-of-control-inflation-could-see-the-fed-get-more-aggressive-morning-brief-100814540.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-january-2022-.html

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inflation-biden-congress/

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/10/not-encouraging-breaking-down-the-latest-inflation-numbers-00007715

    The New York Post piece probably is. The problem isn't so much in the fact that there is some inflation at the moment - which everybody is reporting - as in your take on it, which blames it entirely on the Democrat party and their - imagined -
    tolerance of it in the past.

    I don't see anything unusual from the NYP, they only quoted what Biden said.
    Not exactly true. Your reading comprehension probably isn't good enough to lets you see what they were actually doing.

    Blaming media reports for political propaganda is disingenuous. Biden/Powell is doing too little too late. PPI +1% (+12% annual rate) is not just a little inflation.
    Media reports frequently do constitute political propaganda. Your reading comprehension isn't good enough for you to notice.

    When you lie often enough, you probably believe in your own lies.
    You ought to know, but you probably think that the misapprehensions that you are passing on are true, rather than politically motivated deceit.

    “Well, you’re being a wise guy with me a little bit,”

    We need you to educate us a little bit. Which part of the article is propaganda?

    You need a lot more education than I could be bothered to deliver, and you don't want to get educated.

    This is pure propaganda

    "Critics blame Biden’s policies, including the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan Act, signed in March, which gave $1,400 stimulus checks to Americans who earned up to $75,000 per year, extended a $300 weekly unemployment supplement through Sept. 6 and
    expanded the annual child tax credit to $3,000 to $3,600 per child, up from $2,000."

    The "critics" involved were Republicans who resent any tax-payer money going to anybody who wouldn't vote for them. Giving money to the less well-off does stimulate the economy as a whole - which can be inflationary if you do it for longer than is
    necessary - but there's absolutely no evidence that this is what has been driving the current US inflation, which does seem to reflect supply chain problems, not that you want to believe this.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Fri Feb 18 03:44:04 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:4f91e168-1660-4012- add3-df969e264b5cn@googlegroups.com:

    When you lie often enough, you probably believe in your own lies.

    When you constantly blame everything on the democrats, you righfully
    get tagged as the complete and utter retard you are.

    You are a victim of your own fucking idiom, dumbfuck.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Fri Feb 18 04:02:58 2022
    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:c056a993-f6f0-4233-8d93-d7333074241cn@googlegroups.com:

    On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:47:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:14:33 PM UTC-8,
    bill....@ieee.org w
    rote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 3:33:03 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee
    wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8,
    bill....@ieee.or
    g wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:24:12 PM UTC-8,
    bill....@ieee
    .org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:35:56 PM UTC+11,
    Ed Lee wr
    ote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-8,
    bill....@i
    eee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM
    UTC+11, Ed Le
    e wrote:

    The US economy has been run at an inflation
    rate of abo
    ut 2% for about forty years now, which was a deliberate choice.
    The current 7.5% is a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed
    is going to reduce the support it has been providing for the
    economy and it can be expected to come back down again.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-ind
    ex-janu
    ary-2022-.html

    Almost 10% now. Are you still expecting 2%?

    Ed Lee produced this in reaction to a post I'd
    made. He has
    snipped out all the thread information and most of what I posted.

    I do expect inflation to come down once the Fed's
    intervent
    ions have had time to work. I'm not silly enough to expect this to
    happen overnight.

    "Ed Lee is just re-posting Republican political
    propaganda
    that he doesn't entirely understand, which is actually pretty
    stupid."

    You think these are all republican political
    propaganda?

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/10/joe-biden-snaps-at-wise-
    guy-les
    ter-holt-for-noting-how-wrong-he-got-it-on-inflation/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/out-of-control-inflatio
    n-could
    -see-the-fed-get-more-aggressive-morning-brief-100814540.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-j
    anuary-
    2022-.html

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inflation-biden-congress/

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/10/not-encouragi
    ng-brea
    king-down-the-latest-inflation-numbers-00007715

    The New York Post piece probably is. The problem isn't
    so much
    in the fact that there is some inflation at the moment - which
    everybody is reporting - as in your take on it, which blames it
    entirely on the Democrat party and their - imagined - tolerance of
    it in the past.

    I don't see anything unusual from the NYP, they only
    quoted what
    Biden said.
    Not exactly true. Your reading comprehension probably isn't
    good en
    ough to lets you see what they were actually doing.

    Blaming media reports for political propaganda is
    disingenuous. B
    iden/Powell is doing too little too late. PPI +1% (+12% annual
    rate) is not just a little inflation.
    Media reports frequently do constitute political
    propaganda. Your r
    eading comprehension isn't good enough for you to notice.

    When you lie often enough, you probably believe in your own
    lies.
    You ought to know, but you probably think that the
    misapprehensions tha
    t you are passing on are true, rather than politically motivated
    deceit.

    “Well, you’re being a wise guy with me a little bit,


    We need you to educate us a little bit. Which part of the article
    is prop
    aganda?

    You need a lot more education than I could be bothered to deliver,
    and you don't want to get educated.

    This is pure propaganda

    "Critics blame Biden’s policies, including the $1.9 trillion
    American Rescue Plan Act, signed in March, which gave $1,400
    stimulus checks to Americans who earned up to $75,000 per year,
    extended a $300 weekly unemployment supplement through Sept. 6 and
    expanded the annual child tax credit to $3,000 to $3,600 per
    child, up from $2,000."

    The "critics" involved were Republicans who resent any tax-payer
    money going to anybody who wouldn't vote for them. Giving money to
    the less well-off does stimulate the economy as a whole - which
    can be inflationary if you do it for longer than is necessary -
    but there's absolutely no evidence that this is what has been
    driving the current US inflation, which does seem to reflect
    supply chain problems, not that you want to believe this.


    You should see their latest lie. All this inflation is Biden's
    fault according to them. And they also claim that gas prices doubled
    because Biden halted the Keystone pipline. Also pure horseshit,
    because the pipeline was going to take years before anything flowed
    through it and so it had NOTHING then, and has NOTHING now to do with
    ANY gas price inflation. But there they are on the House Floor
    spouting horseshit so that utter idiots like Lee can suck it up and
    believe their lies.
    Him I do not worry in any way about. It is the violent Trump
    assholes this guy was trying to rile up to his lies that are the
    problem. I should find a whole bunch of them and tell them I found a
    guy they are looking for and tell them that Lee is a Biden Loving
    democrat, and watch as they storm his house and lynch him. Murdered
    by the very people he believed the lies of. That would be poetic
    justice.

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Fri Feb 18 12:19:22 2022
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:03:10 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in news:c056a993-f6f0-4233...@googlegroups.com:
    On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:47:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:14:33 PM UTC-8,
    bill....@ieee.org w
    rote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 3:33:03 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee
    wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8,
    bill....@ieee.or
    g wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee
    wrote:

    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:24:12 PM UTC-8,
    bill....@ieee
    .org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:35:56 PM UTC+11,
    Ed Lee wr
    ote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-8,
    bill....@i
    eee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM
    UTC+11, Ed Le
    e wrote:

    The US economy has been run at an inflation
    rate of abo
    ut 2% for about forty years now, which was a deliberate choice.
    The current 7.5% is a reaction to the Covid-19 epidemic - the Fed
    is going to reduce the support it has been providing for the
    economy and it can be expected to come back down again.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-ind
    ex-janu
    ary-2022-.html

    Almost 10% now. Are you still expecting 2%?

    Ed Lee produced this in reaction to a post I'd
    made. He has
    snipped out all the thread information and most of what I posted.

    I do expect inflation to come down once the Fed's
    intervent
    ions have had time to work. I'm not silly enough to expect this to
    happen overnight.

    "Ed Lee is just re-posting Republican political
    propaganda
    that he doesn't entirely understand, which is actually pretty
    stupid."

    You think these are all republican political
    propaganda?

    https://nypost.com/2022/02/10/joe-biden-snaps-at-wise-
    guy-les
    ter-holt-for-noting-how-wrong-he-got-it-on-inflation/

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/out-of-control-inflatio
    n-could
    -see-the-fed-get-more-aggressive-morning-brief-100814540.html

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/15/producer-price-index-j
    anuary-
    2022-.html

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inflation-biden-congress/

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/10/not-encouragi
    ng-brea
    king-down-the-latest-inflation-numbers-00007715

    The New York Post piece probably is. The problem isn't
    so much
    in the fact that there is some inflation at the moment - which
    everybody is reporting - as in your take on it, which blames it
    entirely on the Democrat party and their - imagined - tolerance of
    it in the past.

    I don't see anything unusual from the NYP, they only
    quoted what
    Biden said.
    Not exactly true. Your reading comprehension probably isn't
    good en
    ough to lets you see what they were actually doing.

    Blaming media reports for political propaganda is
    disingenuous. B
    iden/Powell is doing too little too late. PPI +1% (+12% annual
    rate) is not just a little inflation.
    Media reports frequently do constitute political
    propaganda. Your r
    eading comprehension isn't good enough for you to notice.

    When you lie often enough, you probably believe in your own
    lies.
    You ought to know, but you probably think that the
    misapprehensions tha
    t you are passing on are true, rather than politically motivated
    deceit.

    ā€ Well, youā€™re being a wise guy with me a little bit,ā
    €¯

    We need you to educate us a little bit. Which part of the article
    is prop
    aganda?

    You need a lot more education than I could be bothered to deliver,
    and you don't want to get educated.

    This is pure propaganda

    "Critics blame Bidenā€™s policies, including the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan Act, signed in March, which gave $1,400
    stimulus checks to Americans who earned up to $75,000 per year,
    extended a $300 weekly unemployment supplement through Sept. 6 and expanded the annual child tax credit to $3,000 to $3,600 per
    child, up from $2,000."

    The "critics" involved were Republicans who resent any tax-payer
    money going to anybody who wouldn't vote for them. Giving money to
    the less well-off does stimulate the economy as a whole - which
    can be inflationary if you do it for longer than is necessary -
    but there's absolutely no evidence that this is what has been
    driving the current US inflation, which does seem to reflect
    supply chain problems, not that you want to believe this.

    You should see their latest lie. All this inflation is Biden's
    fault according to them. And they also claim that gas prices doubled
    because Biden halted the Keystone pipline. Also pure horseshit,
    because the pipeline was going to take years before anything flowed
    through it and so it had NOTHING then, and has NOTHING now to do with
    ANY gas price inflation.

    Forward looking inflation pressure. Without pipeline, there will not be oil/gas drilling/processing.

    ------

    From another Democrat under Biden's former boss:

    President Biden has repeatedly blamed tangled supply chains for the surging inflation that has seeped into every part of the U.S. economy – but a former Obama administration official on Thursday dismissed that as a "totally dishonest" argument.

    Although Rattner acknowledged the pandemic has indeed stretched supply chains, he said the primary inflation source is rapid consumer demand, fueled in large part by unprecedented levels of government spending, including three stimulus payments.

    "It’s a classic economic case of ‘too much money chasing too few goods,’ resulting in both higher prices and, given the extreme surge in demand, shortages," he said.

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-blame-supply-chain-inflation-obama-official

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Fri Feb 18 22:43:42 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:b8961d18-756e-43cb-b687-25d1c7890e05n@googlegroups.com:

    Forward looking inflation pressure. Without pipeline, there will
    not be oil/gas drilling/processing.


    AGAIN, you stupid fuck. His claim was that it inflated prices NOW.

    And that has nothing to do with your fucktarded claim of future
    vision. He was and is a LIAR, and you are a brainwashed utter retard.

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Fri Feb 18 16:45:02 2022
    On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 2:43:53 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:b8961d18-756e-43cb...@googlegroups.com:
    Forward looking inflation pressure. Without pipeline, there will
    not be oil/gas drilling/processing.

    His claim was that it inflated prices NOW.

    I said forward looking, which is forward from killing pipeline a year ago, which is now.

    Glad you agree with him that Biden's claim is "total;y dishonest" and that too much money is inflating prices now.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Fri Feb 18 18:54:33 2022
    On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 7:19:33 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:03:10 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in news:c056a993-f6f0-4233...@googlegroups.com:
    On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:47:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:14:33 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 3:33:03 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote: >> > > On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:24:12 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:35:56 PM UTC+11,
    Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:

    <snip>

    This is pure propaganda

    "Critics blame Biden's policies, including the $1.9 trillion
    American Rescue Plan Act, signed in March, which gave $1,400
    stimulus checks to Americans who earned up to $75,000 per year,
    extended a $300 weekly unemployment supplement through Sept. 6 and expanded the annual child tax credit to $3,000 to $3,600 per
    child, up from $2,000."

    The "critics" involved were Republicans who resent any tax-payer
    money going to anybody who wouldn't vote for them. Giving money to
    the less well-off does stimulate the economy as a whole - which
    can be inflationary if you do it for longer than is necessary -
    but there's absolutely no evidence that this is what has been
    driving the current US inflation, which does seem to reflect
    supply chain problems, not that you want to believe this.

    You should see their latest lie. All this inflation is Biden's
    fault according to them. And they also claim that gas prices doubled because Biden halted the Keystone pipline. Also pure horseshit,
    because the pipeline was going to take years before anything flowed through it and so it had NOTHING then, and has NOTHING now to do with
    ANY gas price inflation.

    Forward looking inflation pressure. Without pipeline, there will not be oil/gas drilling/processing.

    There are lots of pipe-lines. One more isn't going to make a lot of difference.

    From another Democrat under Biden's former boss:

    President Biden has repeatedly blamed tangled supply chains for the surging inflation that has seeped into every part of the U.S. economy – but a former Obama administration official on Thursday dismissed that as a "totally dishonest" argument.

    Although Rattner acknowledged the pandemic has indeed stretched supply chains, he said the primary inflation source is rapid consumer demand, fueled in large part by unprecedented levels of government spending, including three stimulus payments.

    "It’s a classic economic case of ‘too much money chasing too few goods,’ resulting in both higher prices and, given the extreme surge in demand, shortages," he said.

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-blame-supply-chain-inflation-obama-official

    That's what Fox News would say. You haven't actually posted a link to the whole of what Steve Rattner actually said, and Fox News can be relied on to pick out the parts they liked best. Money-men like Rattner can work for a Democratic administration
    while still retaining a pre-Keynesian economic outlook.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Fri Feb 18 19:32:23 2022
    On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 6:54:43 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 7:19:33 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:03:10 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in news:c056a993-f6f0-4233...@googlegroups.com:
    On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:47:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:14:33 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 3:33:03 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote: >> > > On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:24:12 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:35:56 PM UTC+11,
    Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    <snip>

    This is pure propaganda

    "Critics blame Biden's policies, including the $1.9 trillion
    American Rescue Plan Act, signed in March, which gave $1,400
    stimulus checks to Americans who earned up to $75,000 per year, extended a $300 weekly unemployment supplement through Sept. 6 and expanded the annual child tax credit to $3,000 to $3,600 per
    child, up from $2,000."

    The "critics" involved were Republicans who resent any tax-payer
    money going to anybody who wouldn't vote for them. Giving money to
    the less well-off does stimulate the economy as a whole - which
    can be inflationary if you do it for longer than is necessary -
    but there's absolutely no evidence that this is what has been
    driving the current US inflation, which does seem to reflect
    supply chain problems, not that you want to believe this.

    You should see their latest lie. All this inflation is Biden's
    fault according to them. And they also claim that gas prices doubled because Biden halted the Keystone pipline. Also pure horseshit,
    because the pipeline was going to take years before anything flowed through it and so it had NOTHING then, and has NOTHING now to do with ANY gas price inflation.

    Forward looking inflation pressure. Without pipeline, there will not be oil/gas drilling/processing.
    There are lots of pipe-lines. One more isn't going to make a lot of difference.

    It's an important one bring Canadian oil down south. Without it, they are not building facilities extracting/processing Canadian oil.

    From another Democrat under Biden's former boss:

    President Biden has repeatedly blamed tangled supply chains for the surging inflation that has seeped into every part of the U.S. economy – but a former Obama administration official on Thursday dismissed that as a "totally dishonest" argument.

    Although Rattner acknowledged the pandemic has indeed stretched supply chains, he said the primary inflation source is rapid consumer demand, fueled in large part by unprecedented levels of government spending, including three stimulus payments.

    "It’s a classic economic case of ‘too much money chasing too few goods,’ resulting in both higher prices and, given the extreme surge in demand, shortages," he said.

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-blame-supply-chain-inflation-obama-official
    That's what Fox News would say. You haven't actually posted a link to the whole of what Steve Rattner actually said, and Fox News can be relied on to pick out the parts they liked best.

    You can perhaps post what he actually said, or you can just make it up. I don't see how the full transcript would be any different.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Fri Feb 18 22:53:18 2022
    On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 2:32:34 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 6:54:43 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 7:19:33 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:03:10 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Anthony William Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote in news:c056a993-f6f0-4233...@googlegroups.com:
    On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:47:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:14:33 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 3:33:03 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Thursday, February 17, 2022 at 8:45:52 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:24:12 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:35:56 PM UTC+11,
    Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 6:54:16 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 1:45:47 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:

    <snip>

    President Biden has repeatedly blamed tangled supply chains for the surging inflation that has seeped into every part of the U.S. economy – but a former Obama administration official on Thursday dismissed that as a "totally dishonest" argument.

    Although Rattner acknowledged the pandemic has indeed stretched supply chains, he said the primary inflation source is rapid consumer demand, fueled in large part by unprecedented levels of government spending, including three stimulus payments.

    "It’s a classic economic case of ‘too much money chasing too few goods,’ resulting in both higher prices and, given the extreme surge in demand, shortages," he said.

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/biden-blame-supply-chain-inflation-obama-official >
    That's what Fox News would say. You haven't actually posted a link to the whole of what Steve Rattner actually said, and Fox News can be relied on to pick out the parts they liked best.

    You can perhaps post what he actually said, or you can just make it up. I don't see how the full transcript would be any different.

    You don't see much at the best of times. And there's nothing to stop even a member of a former Democrat administration having a different opinion from Joe Biden.

    It isn't as if he now getting advice from the current administrations experts and he won't have access to the kind of data that they do. But it's one more opinion - worth a bit more than yours, but mainly one that's getting air-time from Fox News, who do
    know which kinds of opinion they want to spread around. Truthful and accurate isn't high on their list of desirable features. Politically partisan does rank higher.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun Feb 20 11:06:30 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:9cfdde45-c534-444b-9335-338e42e276a9n@googlegroups.com:

    On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 2:43:53 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:b8961d18-756e-43cb...@googlegroups.com:
    Forward looking inflation pressure. Without pipeline, there
    will not be oil/gas drilling/processing.

    His claim was that it inflated prices NOW.

    I said forward looking, which is forward from killing pipeline a
    year ago, which is now.

    Idiot. The pipeline was NOT going to do ANYTHING for YEARS TO
    COME. Therefore it had ZERO impact on current prices or how they
    were inflated to the current level.

    So your pathetic claim has ZERO footing.

    He did not make the statement a year ago, he made it the other day,
    you stupid fuck, and I never agreed with a fucking thing you said,
    you drunken fucking total retard!


    Glad you agree with him that Biden's claim is "total;y dishonest"
    and that too much money is inflating prices now.

    You are a goddamned suck up to the liars and respout their
    horseshit lies STUPID FUCK. Nothing more.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun Feb 20 11:09:48 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:1e7a443e-2882-45f8-9267-17f58860ed9cn@googlegroups.com:


    It's an important one bring Canadian oil down south. Without it,
    they are not building facilities extracting/processing Canadian
    oil.


    It is extracted sand oil, you stupid fuck.

    And we are not in short supply any time in the next century.

    Catch Covid And Die, Trump retard.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun Feb 20 11:11:16 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:1e7a443e-2882-45f8-9267-17f58860ed9cn@googlegroups.com:

    You can perhaps post what he actually said, or you can just make
    it up. I don't see how the full transcript would be any
    different.


    No, idiot. YOU brought it up, YOU should be posting it.

    Damn you are thick, boy. You skull cannot be 3.5 inches thick and
    you be here. It has to be thinner for you to ride this ride,
    numbskull.

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  • From StupidAs StupidGet@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Sun Feb 20 11:14:17 2022
    On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 3:11:26 AM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:1e7a443e-2882-45f8...@googlegroups.com:
    You can perhaps post what he actually said, or you can just make
    it up. I don't see how the full transcript would be any
    different.

    No, idiot. YOU brought it up, YOU should be posting it.

    Damn you are thick, boy. You skull cannot be 3.5 inches thick and
    you be here. It has to be thinner for you to ride this ride,
    numbskull.

    Freaking Foul Fool
    CCC DDD FFF SSS

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Sun Feb 20 16:27:28 2022
    On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 3:11:26 AM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:1e7a443e-2882-45f8...@googlegroups.com:
    You can perhaps post what he actually said, or you can just make
    it up. I don't see how the full transcript would be any
    different.

    YOU brought it up, YOU should be posting it.

    NYT quoting NBC that: Biden is SIMPLISTIC, MISLEADING, DISHONEST and DISINGENUOUS.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/17/opinion/inflation-supply-chain.html

    Biden Keeps Blaming the Supply Chain for Inflation. That’s Dishonest.

    In an interview with Lester Holt of NBC last week, President Biden hewed closely to his talking points on inflation, which over the past 12 months has risen at its fastest rate in 40 years. “The reason for the inflation is the supply chains were cut
    off,” he insisted, as he has done several times before.

    Well, no. That’s both simplistic and misleading.

    For starters, the supply chains have not been “cut off,” just stretched. And supply issues are by no means the root cause of our inflation. Blaming inflation on supply lines is like complaining about your sweater keeping you too warm after you’ve
    added several logs to the fireplace.

    The bulk of our supply problems are the product of an overstimulated economy, not the cause of it. Sure, there have been some Covid-related challenges, such as health-related worker shortages in factories and among transportation workers. But most of our
    supply problems have been homegrown: Americans have resumed spending freely, and along the way, they have been creating shortages akin to those in a shopping mall on Black Friday.

    All that consumption has resulted from vast amounts of government rescue aid (including three rounds of stimulus checks) and substantial underspending by consumers during the lockdown phase of the Covid crisis. There has also been an unforeseen shift in
    what consumers are buying: With travel still sluggish and many people still wary of returning to entertainment venues, a hunk of purchasing has moved to goods — particularly “durables” like cars, electronics and building materials for housing —
    for which production and distribution capacity is limited.

    It’s a classic economic case of “too much money chasing too few goods,” resulting in both higher prices and, given the extreme surge in demand, shortages. A spending increase of the magnitude we’re seeing — 25 percent on durable goods in 2021
    over 2020, according to the Bureau of Economic Analysis — would have challenged the capabilities of manufacturers under the best of circumstances.

    Much has been made, for example, about the very real shortage of semiconductors. But that gap has occurred despite manufacturers delivering a staggering 1.15 trillion chips in 2021, handily eclipsing the previous annual record. That looks to me like a
    demand problem creating a supply problem.

    And yes, when chips are in short supply, auto companies must curtail production and prices rise. I just ordered a new car and had to pay well above the sticker price (and face an indefinite wait).

    Among the ripple effects: a surge in used car prices, which are up 55 percent over January 2020 levels. Cars are not alone. Over that same period, furniture and bedding prices rose 19 percent and laundry equipment became 33 percent more expensive.

    In this environment, shipping delays are hardly surprising. The Commerce Department reported last week that imports into the United States surged by almost 21 percent last year. No wonder that the volume of goods arriving at the port of Los Angeles hit
    record levels in 2021 — as did delays in unloading all the additional ships.

    This is not to say that the current situation was easily foreseeable. While some economists warned of looming inflation, few anticipated the shift in spending and its effects. Also unexpected was the “Great Resignation,” the rise in people
    voluntarily leaving their jobs, as well as the decision by several million Americans to return to the labor force slowly or not at all as the pandemic waned.

    The Great Resignation has created shortages of a different kind — labor shortages — in the service sector, both for businesses for which demand remains mixed (like restaurants) and those for which demand has increased during the pandemic (just try to
    get a plumber or an electrician to show up at your house). As a result, inflation in service prices, while more moderate than those in goods, remains higher than the Federal Reserve’s target of 2 percent.

    Note to Mr. Biden: You can’t blame clogged ports for that.

    What to do about all these shortages? Here again, Mr. Biden was misleading in his conversation with Mr. Holt. “We got Intel to come in and provide $20 billion to build a new facility,” he said, referring to a recent announcement by the chip
    manufacturer of a new semiconductor plant to come in Ohio.

    Winning that new plant was a great accomplishment. But it’s not a solution to today’s problems; the plant isn’t scheduled to turn out its first chip until 2025.

    The real solution is more complicated. Some shortages will ebb naturally on their own, as consumers, having sated their thirst for adding that extra room on their house, return to more normal spending patterns. Other shortages will take longer to
    moderate and will require robust action, particularly by the Federal Reserve.

    For its part, the White House needs to be more honest as it rolls out initiatives. It has promised robust antitrust enforcement, but while that is long overdue, it will have no discernible impact on competition or prices for years. And the high prices of
    meat and hearing aids, both of which Mr. Biden has vowed to address, are not at the heart of the current problem.

    The Biden administration needs to shift its approach. In particular, with the economy steaming along, it should make deficit reduction as important as its other initiatives. (Smaller deficits reduce net spending by government, thus helping offset demand
    by consumers.)

    But here again, Mr. Biden has been disingenuous. His Build Back Better plan claims to be deficit neutral, but that assertion is made credible only by using the fuzziest math. Over the first five years, the plan would add about $750 billion to the deficit,
    according to an analysis of the Congressional Budget Office’s estimates. With this year’s fiscal gap estimated at $1.3 trillion, any new version of the plan should reduce the deficit substantially in its early years using honest math.

    That’s how Bill Clinton pivoted after he took office in 1993: He unexpectedly raised taxes in his budget to address the pressing matter of the federal budget deficit. That decision served the country well — and ultimately also served him well.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Mon Feb 21 01:09:14 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:a0f33008-b14d-43f6-97e8-b30d562d8f4an@googlegroups.com:

    NYT quoting NBC that: Biden is SIMPLISTIC, MISLEADING, DISHONEST
    and DISINGENUOUS.


    You're an idiot, a retard, a Trump Cult misled fool.

    My statement is far more accurate than your is.

    You gonna go FOOL BORE all caps on us now, TrumpPutz?

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Sun Feb 20 17:31:24 2022
    On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 5:09:25 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:a0f33008-b14d-43f6...@googlegroups.com:
    NYT quoting NBC that: Biden is SIMPLISTIC, MISLEADING, DISHONEST
    and DISINGENUOUS.


    My statement is far more accurate than your is.

    Read the article. New York Time said them, not me.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun Feb 20 17:38:13 2022
    On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 11:27:39 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 3:11:26 AM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:1e7a443e-2882-45f8...@googlegroups.com:

    <snipped a lot right-wing fake economics>

    But here again, Mr. Biden has been disingenuous. His Build Back Better plan claims to be deficit neutral, but that assertion is made credible only by using the fuzziest math. Over the first five years, the plan would add about $750 billion to the
    deficit, according to an analysis of the Congressional Budget Office’s estimates. With this year’s fiscal gap estimated at $1.3 trillion, any new version of the plan should reduce the deficit substantially in its early years using honest math.

    The Build Back Better plan costs money, but the services it is going to provide are intended to make the economy work better, so concentrating on what it is gojng to cost and ignoring what it is intended to do is entirely dishonest. What Ed Lee likes to
    call honest math is just right-wing economic "theory" which is aimed at just one object - keeping taxes down.

    That’s how Bill Clinton pivoted after he took office in 1993: He unexpectedly raised taxes in his budget to address the pressing matter of the federal budget deficit. That decision served the country well — and ultimately also served him well.

    And that was 1993, and this is now.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun Feb 20 17:41:25 2022
    On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 12:31:36 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 5:09:25 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:a0f33008-b14d-43f6...@googlegroups.com:
    NYT quoting NBC that: Biden is SIMPLISTIC, MISLEADING, DISHONEST
    and DISINGENUOUS.


    My statement is far more accurate than your is.
    Read the article. New York Time said them, not me.

    It is behind a pay wall.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Sun Feb 20 17:45:24 2022
    On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 5:38:24 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 11:27:39 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 3:11:26 AM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:1e7a443e-2882-45f8...@googlegroups.com:
    <snipped a lot right-wing fake economics>

    So, now you are considering NYT and NBC right-wing?

    But here again, Mr. Biden has been disingenuous. His Build Back Better plan claims to be deficit neutral, but that assertion is made credible only by using the fuzziest math. Over the first five years, the plan would add about $750 billion to the
    deficit, according to an analysis of the Congressional Budget Office’s estimates. With this year’s fiscal gap estimated at $1.3 trillion, any new version of the plan should reduce the deficit substantially in its early years using honest math.
    The Build Back Better plan costs money, but the services it is going to provide are intended to make the economy work better,
    so concentrating on what it is gojng to cost and ignoring what it is intended to do is entirely dishonest. What Ed Lee likes to call honest math is just right-wing economic "theory" which is aimed at just one object - keeping taxes down.

    and inflation (very regressive tax) down.

    That’s how Bill Clinton pivoted after he took office in 1993: He unexpectedly raised taxes in his budget to address the pressing matter of the federal budget deficit. That decision served the country well — and ultimately also served him well.
    And that was 1993, and this is now.

    only worst.

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Sun Feb 20 17:47:23 2022
    On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 5:41:35 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 21, 2022 at 12:31:36 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 20, 2022 at 5:09:25 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:a0f33008-b14d-43f6...@googlegroups.com:
    NYT quoting NBC that: Biden is SIMPLISTIC, MISLEADING, DISHONEST
    and DISINGENUOUS.


    My statement is far more accurate than your is.
    Read the article. New York Time said them, not me.
    It is behind a pay wall.

    Then read my post. I copied it directly from NYT.

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