• Re: We need the voting rights act restored properly,for?

    From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 6 18:19:47 2022
    Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.

    So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afgan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun Feb 6 19:02:10 2022
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.

    So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?

    The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at lea.st it intends to move in a sensible direction.

    They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices in
    Australia too, if only half as much.

    We definitely wished to see Trump booted out - the US should probably be getting on with prosecuting him for his crimes, but that is your problem - and Biden is a whole lot better, if still stuck with trying to get an oxcart constitution to deal with
    space-age problems. China has even worse problems. Europe is doing better, but not all that much better.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Sun Feb 6 19:13:20 2022
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.

    So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing
    for?

    The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at lea.st it intends to move in a sensible direction.

    They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.

    The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling. I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is
    using much more coal now.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices
    in Australia too, if only half as much.

    Inflation is because of all the additional spendings with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden. I don't blame or credit either Trump or Biden for the pandemic. They are equally bad, but predictable. There are too many factors outside
    President's control.

    We definitely wished to see Trump booted out - the US should probably be getting on with prosecuting him for his crimes, but that is your problem - and Biden is a whole lot better, if still stuck with trying to get an oxcart constitution to deal with
    space-age problems. China has even worse problems. Europe is doing better, but not all that much better.

    But China and Europe are burning lots of coal now. Australia should be happy.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun Feb 6 19:27:45 2022
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.

    So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were wishing
    for?

    The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at lea.st it intends to move in a sensible direction.

    They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.
    The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling. I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is
    using much more coal now.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices
    in Australia too, if only half as much.

    Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.

    You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.

    The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.

    I don't blame or credit either Trump or Biden for the pandemic.

    It's not the pandemic that's the problem here, but Trump's failure to stop it becoming an epidemic in the US. He wasn't the only leader to do as badly, but some did quite a bit better. Biden isn't in a position to root the infection out of the US
    population -it was much too well established there when he finally came to power.

    They are equally bad, but predictable. There are too many factors outside President's control.

    Not as many as Trump tried to claim.

    We definitely wished to see Trump booted out - the US should probably be getting on with prosecuting him for his crimes, but that is your problem - and Biden is a whole lot better, if still stuck with trying to get an oxcart constitution to deal with
    space-age problems. China has even worse problems. Europe is doing better, but not all that much better.

    But China and Europe are burning lots of coal now. Australia should be happy.

    The mining interests in Australia are delighted. People who are negatively influenced by climate change - and there are a lot more of them, though they have less money - are much less happy.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Sun Feb 6 19:39:25 2022
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.

    So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were
    wishing for?
    ou
    The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at lea.st it intends to move in a sensible
    direction.

    They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.

    The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling. I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is
    using much more coal now.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up
    prices in Australia too, if only half as much.

    Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.

    You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.

    You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system
    with money.

    The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.

    That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Sun Feb 6 20:40:48 2022
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:29:02 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:39:32 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.

    So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were
    wishing for?

    The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at least it intends to move in a sensible
    direction.

    They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm
    not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling.
    And you think that you know this because some Republican propaganda told you that? Sucker.

    I don't listen to Reps or Dems. I do my own DD.

    I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.
    Actually, Australia is burning less coal because the utilities companies have noticed that solar cells and wind turbines produce electricity more cheaply than burning coal in coal-fired power stations. Parts of the world haven't got the message yet.

    Australia is just exporting all the coal for the rest of the world to green-house up. Burning oil or gas would be far less damaging.

    The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up
    prices in Australia too, if only half as much.

    Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.

    You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.

    You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system
    with money.
    It was their contribution to preventing Covid-19 from creating an actual economic depression. Right-wing lunatics don't understand Keynesian economics, but know that they don't like them.
    The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.

    That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.
    If you can't get enough food or oil to the places where you can sell it, people will pay more to get some of what they can get. The shortages may be local, but so is the consumption.

    In some case, Beef and Chicken close to double from before Covid, but there are no shortage of them. There is no supply chain related issue.

    For auto, there are supply chain issue, but people can live with keeping old cars.

    Housing cost is another major problem because there are so much money in the system and interest rate is so low.

    The Biden dictated Fed should have tapered a year ago.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun Feb 6 20:28:54 2022
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:39:32 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.

    So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were
    wishing for?

    The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at least it intends to move in a sensible
    direction.

    They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm
    not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling.

    And you think that you know this because some Republican propaganda told you that? Sucker.

    I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.

    Actually, Australia is burning less coal because the utilities companies have noticed that solar cells and wind turbines produce electricity more cheaply than burning coal in coal-fired power stations. Parts of the world haven't got the message yet.

    The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed up
    prices in Australia too, if only half as much.

    Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.

    You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.

    You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system with
    money.

    It was their contribution to preventing Covid-19 from creating an actual economic depression. Right-wing lunatics don't understand Keynesian economics, but know that they don't like them.

    The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.

    That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.

    If you can't get enough food or oil to the places where you can sell it, people will pay more to get some of what they can get. The shortages may be local, but so is the consumption.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Mon Feb 7 06:48:27 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:6a260be6-e5c0-4be4- a674-72042c3c6d13n@googlegroups.com:

    Independent Fed is a joke.

    Retarded "Ed" is a joke.

    CCAD Ed

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Mon Feb 7 06:18:04 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:b44f28f0-eafb-43fe-b594-e2da27e2bb9an@googlegroups.com:

    Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that
    the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling -
    merely having an opinion.

    So, how satisfying

    Satisfying? It isn't food, dipshit.

    are foreigner with the resulting Democratic
    Biden Administration?

    You really are having word problems. BOTH sides are "Democratic"
    fool.

    Even if we skip Afgan,

    You really are one stupid fuck. The Afghanistan exodus issues were
    Trump's fault. TRUMP made the visas to get out difficult to get, and
    then halted the visa issuance process altogether. All BEFORE the end
    of 2020. You have enough of a vocabulary to do that math, chump?
    Trump was the reason they were all stuck outside the airport. But I
    do not expect a TrumpTarded idiot like you to understand facts, even
    while you spout claims that are not based on any. The very people
    retarded twerps like you claim Biden abandoned were in fact abandoned
    by Trump.

    $93+ oil,

    You mumbling about yet another market you know nothing about is
    laughable. Hey, numbers punk, did you factor in the costs imposed by
    the pandemic? Yeah, I didn't think so. You really are stupid.

    7%+
    inflation,

    Yet another number you obviously have zero clue as to how it
    becomes what it is.

    are you guys

    There you go separating yourself from Americans... again.

    still happy with your wished(elected)

    Fuck you, TrumpTard jackass! 81 M voters - 81 M state reported
    votes = exactly ZERO freaudulent votes, you retarded chinkfucktardamericanwannabepieceofshit!

    US
    President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?

    I wish I could call you out for a morning duel, like American men
    used to settle scores. You would have a 2 millisecond lead breakfast
    right before your head explodes. But alas those days are gone. I
    will have to settle for calling you the most retarded punk to ever
    post in this group. But know you know what I would wish for in a
    right world. CCAD motherfucker.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Mon Feb 7 06:50:01 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:6a260be6-e5c0-4be4-a674-72042c3c6d13n@googlegroups.com:

    The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system with
    money.

    You're an idiot. Just like the idiot who said they are printing money
    that isn't backed.

    The system should flush you. And stupid TrumpCult idiots like you.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Mon Feb 7 06:57:11 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:3a0aa2b6-dad6-45e1- 89da-0280cb68be37n@googlegroups.com:

    I don't listen to Reps or Dems. I do my own DD.

    Dipshitted Dawdling. Figures.

    You failed to vet a proven lifelong criminal and believed his
    pathetic, petty lies. Where was your precious DD then?

    The only diligence you did was Trump's Doogy Diligence.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Mon Feb 7 07:02:26 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:3a0aa2b6-dad6-45e1- 89da-0280cb68be37n@googlegroups.com:

    There is no supply chain related issue.

    Then it is greedy food store behavior STILL NOT Biden's fault, IDIOT!
    More likely greedy Republitards trying to make things harder on him
    and all of us.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Sun Feb 6 22:53:57 2022
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 3:40:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:29:02 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:39:32 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.

    So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you were
    wishing for?

    The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at least it intends to move in a sensible
    direction.

    They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'
    m not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling.
    And you think that you know this because some Republican propaganda told you that? Sucker.
    I don't listen to Reps or Dems. I do my own DD.
    I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.
    Actually, Australia is burning less coal because the utilities companies have noticed that solar cells and wind turbines produce electricity more cheaply than burning coal in coal-fired power stations. Parts of the world haven't got the message yet.

    Australia is just exporting all the coal for the rest of the world to green-house up. Burning oil or gas would be far less damaging.

    Somewhat less damaging. Most of the energy comes from the oxidation of the carbon in hydrocarbons, so burning even methane only give you half the CO2 per kilowatt.hour.

    The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed
    up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.

    Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.

    You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.

    You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system
    with money.

    It was their contribution to preventing Covid-19 from creating an actual economic depression. Right-wing lunatics don't understand Keynesian economics, but know that they don't like them.

    The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.

    That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.

    If you can't get enough food or oil to the places where you can sell it, people will pay more to get some of what they can get. The shortages may be local, but so is the consumption.

    In some case, Beef and Chicken close to double from before Covid, but there are no shortage of them. There is no supply chain related issue.

    So what is producing the increased price?

    For auto, there are supply chain issues, but people can live with keeping old cars.

    Housing cost is another major problem because there are so much money in the system and interest rate is so low.

    The Biden dictated Fed should have tapered a year ago.

    Biden scarcely had a chance to dictate the the Fed a year ago - he'd only just been elected and the whole point about the Fed is that is independent, even if you don't want to believe this.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Mon Feb 7 08:30:40 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:cf29a5d6-e4db-481b-8ba5-664ffecdb433n@googlegroups.com:

    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org
    wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish
    that the
    US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely
    having an opinion.

    So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic
    Biden Ad
    ministration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+
    inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US
    President? Or did you really know what you were wishing for?

    The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's
    predece
    ssor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political
    system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at
    lea.st it intends to move in a sensible direction.

    They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan.
    They ha
    ven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US
    government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be
    too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but I'm not.

    The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies,
    killing pipeline and restricting drilling.

    You are absolutely full of shit. The pipleine and halting of
    drilling had ZERO effect on the OPEC oil price you keep spouting off
    about. Damn you are stupid, boy. ZERO CONNECTION. ZERO DIRECT OR
    INDIRECT CONSEQUENCE. Nice try though idiot.

    I know you want the
    world to use less oil, but what is the alternative?

    Damn, you elementary school level republitard idiots have ZERO
    grasp of what is going on.

    Coal? Oh
    yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using
    much more coal now.

    You are an idiot. PARTS of the world is, idiot. Like China. You
    know that ZERO pollution policy commie nation.

    The rest of us are paring down. I do not expect you to get the big
    words though.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps
    failure to c
    ontain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government
    did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent
    supply chain disruptions have pushed up prices in Australia too,
    if only half as much.

    Inflation is because of all the additional spendings with Biden
    and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.

    Ummmm.... No. Wrong again, little boy.

    I don't blame or
    credit either Trump or Biden for the pandemic.

    You are an idiot and now also prove that you have no grasp as to
    what does or does not drive an economy or inflation within one.

    They are equally
    bad, but predictable.

    You are wholly stupid... and you are wholly stupid.

    There are too many factors outside
    President's control.

    That is what we have been telling YOU, idiot.

    We definitely wished to see Trump booted out - the US should
    probably be
    getting on with prosecuting him for his crimes, but that is your
    problem - and Biden is a whole lot better, if still stuck with
    trying to get an oxcart constitution to deal with space-age
    problems. China has even worse problems. Europe is doing better,
    but not all that much better.

    But China and Europe are burning lots of coal now. Australia
    should be happy.

    We would be happy if you found a lake of fire and dove in.







    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Mon Feb 7 06:31:27 2022
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 10:54:05 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 3:40:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:29:02 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:39:32 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.

    So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you
    were wishing for?

    The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at least it intends to move in a sensible
    direction.

    They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis, but
    I'm not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling.
    And you think that you know this because some Republican propaganda told you that? Sucker.
    I don't listen to Reps or Dems. I do my own DD.
    I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.
    Actually, Australia is burning less coal because the utilities companies have noticed that solar cells and wind turbines produce electricity more cheaply than burning coal in coal-fired power stations. Parts of the world haven't got the message yet.


    Australia is just exporting all the coal for the rest of the world to green-house up. Burning oil or gas would be far less damaging.
    Somewhat less damaging. Most of the energy comes from the oxidation of the carbon in hydrocarbons, so burning even methane only give you half the CO2 per kilowatt.hour.
    The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have pushed
    up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.

    Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.

    You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.

    You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the system
    with money.

    It was their contribution to preventing Covid-19 from creating an actual economic depression. Right-wing lunatics don't understand Keynesian economics, but know that they don't like them.

    The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.

    That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.

    If you can't get enough food or oil to the places where you can sell it, people will pay more to get some of what they can get. The shortages may be local, but so is the consumption.

    In some case, Beef and Chicken close to double from before Covid, but there are no shortage of them. There is no supply chain related issue.
    So what is producing the increased price?

    General Inflation: feed stock, refrigeration and shipping costs.
    Everything is up in price, especially Beef and Chicken.
    Feel good PPI/CPI are less than 10% a year, but real prices doubled in past couple years.

    For auto, there are supply chain issues, but people can live with keeping old cars.

    Housing cost is another major problem because there are so much money in the system and interest rate is so low.

    The Biden dictated Fed should have tapered a year ago.
    Biden scarcely had a chance to dictate the the Fed a year ago - he'd only just been elected and the whole point about the Fed is that is independent, even if you don't want to believe this.

    The Fed must be re-appointed one year into the presidential cycle. When your (the Fed) job is on the line, you listen to what the boss said. It took strong minded President (Reagan) and Fed (Volgar) to fight inflationary pressure. Biden and Powell are
    not.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Mon Feb 7 16:24:13 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:3c970079-c782-416e-b876-f8ea2e312a76n@googlegroups.com:

    The Fed must be re-appointed one year into the presidential cycle.

    Fuck you, retarded twerp!

    When your (the Fed) job is on the line, you listen to what the
    boss said.

    You mumble a lot, dipshit. When your integrity as an educated person
    is on the line, Ed Lee fails miserably.

    It took strong minded President (Reagan) and Fed
    (Volgar) to fight inflationary pressure.

    It was a different time then, and certainly one that did not have a
    deadly virus with rampant contagious efficacy in it.

    You really do like leaving out the one thing Trump screwed up so
    badly on, and that means that you are also blind as to it effects, much
    less when they started taking.

    Your grasp of the bigger picture rest firmly at NIL.

    Biden and Powell are
    not.

    Ed Lee is NOT intelligent. Ed Lee IS a Trump Cult idiot.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Mon Feb 7 17:51:52 2022
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:31:36 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 10:54:05 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 3:40:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:29:02 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:39:32 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.

    So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what you
    were wishing for?

    The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at least it intends to move in a sensible
    direction.

    They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis,
    but I'm not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling.
    And you think that you know this because some Republican propaganda told you that? Sucker.
    I don't listen to Reps or Dems. I do my own DD.
    I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.
    Actually, Australia is burning less coal because the utilities companies have noticed that solar cells and wind turbines produce electricity more cheaply than burning coal in coal-fired power stations. Parts of the world haven't got the message
    yet.

    Australia is just exporting all the coal for the rest of the world to green-house up. Burning oil or gas would be far less damaging.
    Somewhat less damaging. Most of the energy comes from the oxidation of the carbon in hydrocarbons, so burning even methane only give you half the CO2 per kilowatt.hour.
    The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have
    pushed up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.

    Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.

    You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.

    You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the
    system with money.

    It was their contribution to preventing Covid-19 from creating an actual economic depression. Right-wing lunatics don't understand Keynesian economics, but know that they don't like them.

    The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.

    That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.

    If you can't get enough food or oil to the places where you can sell it, people will pay more to get some of what they can get. The shortages may be local, but so is the consumption.

    In some case, Beef and Chicken close to double from before Covid, but there are no shortage of them. There is no supply chain related issue.
    So what is producing the increased price?
    General Inflation: feed stock, refrigeration and shipping costs.
    Everything is up in price, especially Beef and Chicken.
    Feel good PPI/CPI are less than 10% a year, but real prices doubled in past couple years.
    For auto, there are supply chain issues, but people can live with keeping old cars.

    Housing cost is another major problem because there are so much money in the system and interest rate is so low.

    The Biden dictated Fed should have tapered a year ago.

    Biden scarcely had a chance to dictate the the Fed a year ago - he'd only just been elected and the whole point about the Fed is that is independent, even if you don't want to believe this.

    The Fed must be re-appointed one year into the presidential cycle. When your (the Fed) job is on the line, you listen to what the boss said.

    But you don't wreck the economy in a effort to hang onto your job. For a start, it wouldn't work.

    It took strong minded President (Reagan) and Fed (Volgar) to fight inflationary pressure. Biden and Powell are not.

    Reagan wasn't "strong-minded". He was showing early signs of Alzheimer's when he was running for his second term, He was on the right in politics, and that does come with an obsession about inflation which means that he and his allies were happy to
    damage the economy to keep inflation low.

    He presided over a "recession from July 1981 to November 1982 during which unemployment rose to 9.7% and GDP fell by 1.9%. Additionally, income growth slowed for middle- and lower-class (2.4% to 1.8%) and rose for the upper-class (2.2% to 4.83%)".

    That was the point where US economic inequality started to rise, and it has been going up ever since, with damaging effect on US society.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Level_(book)

    "Reaganomics" was widely and justly derided. Do you remember the Laffer Curver? It's the kind of oversimplified nonsense that goes down well with right-wingers.
    Margaret Thatcher in the UK had the same silly ideas and seriously damaged the British economy in the process - I was living there at the time, and had the benefit of Will Hutton's commentary in my newspaper. He was the Guardian's economic correspondent
    at the time, and had good links with university economists. He had a habit of noting the Thatcher-inspired treasury predictions, and contrasted them with academic opinion. Six month's later he'd write a "told you so" piece.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Tue Feb 8 10:14:34 2022
    On 2/8/2022 9:50 AM, Ed Lee wrote:

    The Fed must be re-appointed one year into the presidential cycle. When your (the Fed) job is on the line, you listen to what the boss said.
    But you don't wreck the economy in a effort to hang onto your job. For a start, it wouldn't work.

    But we are wrecking the poor people with inflation instead. Most of the QE went into stock/real estate wealth.

    It took strong minded President (Reagan) and Fed (Volgar) to fight inflationary pressure. Biden and Powell are not.
    Reagan wasn't "strong-minded". He was showing early signs of Alzheimer's when he was running for his second term, He was on the right in politics, and that does come with an obsession about inflation which means that he and his allies were happy to
    damage the economy to keep inflation low.

    Reagan's second term was/is similar to Biden's first term, both was/is showing Alzheimer. But Reagan/Volgar was determined enough in his first term to fight inflation hard and tough. So far, i only hear the Biden/Powell talking, but yet to see any
    action.


    "Ladies and gentlemen, as your president I have signed an executive
    order outlawing opposition parties forever, and Congress is hereby
    dissolved until further notice. Furthermore my lawyers have drafted a
    brief outlining the full Constitutionality of my actions, any members of
    the Supreme Court who feel otherwise, or government employees in
    general, will be allowed a grace period of 30 minutes to tender their resignations.

    In my capacity as commander and chief of the military I have issued a
    standing order for our armed forces to enforce my executive order.

    Thank you for your cooperation!"

    Whoever the next Republican president is I figure they're gonna be a
    "man of action" or nothing

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Tue Feb 8 06:50:47 2022
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 5:52:00 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 1:31:36 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 10:54:05 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 3:40:56 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 8:29:02 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:39:32 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:27:53 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 2:13:26 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Sunday, February 6, 2022 at 7:02:17 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Monday, February 7, 2022 at 1:19:54 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    Quite a few of them are interested in US politics, and wish that the US had a better-run foreign policy. This isn't meddling - merely having an opinion.

    So, how satisfying are foreigner with the resulting Democratic Biden Administration? Even if we skip Afghanistan, $93+ oil, 7%+ inflation, are you guys still happy with your wished(elected) US President? Or did you really know what
    you were wishing for?

    The Biden Democratic administration is less incompetent than it's predecessor. It is still wrestling with the defects of the US political system and hasn't notched up any notable achievements, but at least it intends to move in a
    sensible direction.

    They did complete Trump's rather clumsy retreat from Afghanistan. They haven't been able to influence the price of oil, but no US government has been able to do that for a while now. You may be too young to remember the 1973 oil crisis,
    but I'm not.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_oil_crisis

    The $93+ going $100 oil is direct consequences of Biden policies, killing pipeline and restricting drilling.
    And you think that you know this because some Republican propaganda told you that? Sucker.
    I don't listen to Reps or Dems. I do my own DD.
    I know you want the world to use less oil, but what is the alternative? Coal? Oh yeah, Australia is a big exporter of coal, and the world is using much more coal now.
    Actually, Australia is burning less coal because the utilities companies have noticed that solar cells and wind turbines produce electricity more cheaply than burning coal in coal-fired power stations. Parts of the world haven't got the message
    yet.

    Australia is just exporting all the coal for the rest of the world to green-house up. Burning oil or gas would be far less damaging.
    Somewhat less damaging. Most of the energy comes from the oxidation of the carbon in hydrocarbons, so burning even methane only give you half the CO2 per kilowatt.hour.
    The 7% inflation is just more of the after effects of Trumps failure to contain the Covid19 epidemic in the US.The Australian government did better until the Omicron strain came along, and the consequent supply chain disruptions have
    pushed up prices in Australia too, if only half as much.

    Inflation is because of all the additional spending with Biden and the out of control Fed dictated by Biden.

    You don't know anything about economics do you. And if the Fed is "out of control" how could Biden be dictating what they do. In fact he can't.

    You don't know much about the US Fed. Up until recently, Chair of the Fed was under threat of (not) reappointment. So, he did what Biden and companies wanted. Independent Fed is a joke. The Fed is holding close to 10T debt and flushing the
    system with money.

    It was their contribution to preventing Covid-19 from creating an actual economic depression. Right-wing lunatics don't understand Keynesian economics, but know that they don't like them.

    The current inflation mostly seems to be a supply chain issue, with too many people sick and isolating to move the goods to where they can be sold, as I did point out.

    That's not true. Major inflation factors are food and energy. There are no shortage of them. Just high prices.

    If you can't get enough food or oil to the places where you can sell it, people will pay more to get some of what they can get. The shortages may be local, but so is the consumption.

    In some case, Beef and Chicken close to double from before Covid, but there are no shortage of them. There is no supply chain related issue.
    So what is producing the increased price?
    General Inflation: feed stock, refrigeration and shipping costs. Everything is up in price, especially Beef and Chicken.
    Feel good PPI/CPI are less than 10% a year, but real prices doubled in past couple years.
    For auto, there are supply chain issues, but people can live with keeping old cars.

    Housing cost is another major problem because there are so much money in the system and interest rate is so low.

    The Biden dictated Fed should have tapered a year ago.

    Biden scarcely had a chance to dictate the the Fed a year ago - he'd only just been elected and the whole point about the Fed is that is independent, even if you don't want to believe this.

    The Fed must be re-appointed one year into the presidential cycle. When your (the Fed) job is on the line, you listen to what the boss said.
    But you don't wreck the economy in a effort to hang onto your job. For a start, it wouldn't work.

    But we are wrecking the poor people with inflation instead. Most of the QE went into stock/real estate wealth.

    It took strong minded President (Reagan) and Fed (Volgar) to fight inflationary pressure. Biden and Powell are not.
    Reagan wasn't "strong-minded". He was showing early signs of Alzheimer's when he was running for his second term, He was on the right in politics, and that does come with an obsession about inflation which means that he and his allies were happy to
    damage the economy to keep inflation low.

    Reagan's second term was/is similar to Biden's first term, both was/is showing Alzheimer. But Reagan/Volgar was determined enough in his first term to fight inflation hard and tough. So far, i only hear the Biden/Powell talking, but yet to see any
    action.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bitrex on Tue Feb 8 07:23:47 2022
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 7:14:47 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
    On 2/8/2022 9:50 AM, Ed Lee wrote:

    The Fed must be re-appointed one year into the presidential cycle. When your (the Fed) job is on the line, you listen to what the boss said.
    But you don't wreck the economy in a effort to hang onto your job. For a start, it wouldn't work.

    But we are wrecking the poor people with inflation instead. Most of the QE went into stock/real estate wealth.

    It took strong minded President (Reagan) and Fed (Volgar) to fight inflationary pressure. Biden and Powell are not.
    Reagan wasn't "strong-minded". He was showing early signs of Alzheimer's when he was running for his second term, He was on the right in politics, and that does come with an obsession about inflation which means that he and his allies were happy to
    damage the economy to keep inflation low.

    Reagan's second term was/is similar to Biden's first term, both was/is showing Alzheimer. But Reagan/Volgar was determined enough in his first term to fight inflation hard and tough. So far, i only hear the Biden/Powell talking, but yet to see any
    action.
    "Ladies and gentlemen, as your president I have signed an executive
    order outlawing opposition parties forever, and Congress is hereby
    dissolved until further notice. Furthermore my lawyers have drafted a
    brief outlining the full Constitutionality of my actions, any members of
    the Supreme Court who feel otherwise, or government employees in
    general, will be allowed a grace period of 30 minutes to tender their resignations.

    In my capacity as commander and chief of the military I have issued a standing order for our armed forces to enforce my executive order.

    Thank you for your cooperation!"

    Whoever the next Republican president is I figure they're gonna be a
    "man of action" or nothing

    And the Democratic president would say: I am going to promise you freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class citizen.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From bitrex@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Tue Feb 8 15:08:56 2022
    On 2/8/2022 10:23 AM, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 7:14:47 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
    On 2/8/2022 9:50 AM, Ed Lee wrote:

    The Fed must be re-appointed one year into the presidential cycle. When your (the Fed) job is on the line, you listen to what the boss said.
    But you don't wreck the economy in a effort to hang onto your job. For a start, it wouldn't work.

    But we are wrecking the poor people with inflation instead. Most of the QE went into stock/real estate wealth.

    It took strong minded President (Reagan) and Fed (Volgar) to fight inflationary pressure. Biden and Powell are not.
    Reagan wasn't "strong-minded". He was showing early signs of Alzheimer's when he was running for his second term, He was on the right in politics, and that does come with an obsession about inflation which means that he and his allies were happy to
    damage the economy to keep inflation low.

    Reagan's second term was/is similar to Biden's first term, both was/is showing Alzheimer. But Reagan/Volgar was determined enough in his first term to fight inflation hard and tough. So far, i only hear the Biden/Powell talking, but yet to see any
    action.
    "Ladies and gentlemen, as your president I have signed an executive
    order outlawing opposition parties forever, and Congress is hereby
    dissolved until further notice. Furthermore my lawyers have drafted a
    brief outlining the full Constitutionality of my actions, any members of
    the Supreme Court who feel otherwise, or government employees in
    general, will be allowed a grace period of 30 minutes to tender their
    resignations.

    In my capacity as commander and chief of the military I have issued a
    standing order for our armed forces to enforce my executive order.

    Thank you for your cooperation!"

    Whoever the next Republican president is I figure they're gonna be a
    "man of action" or nothing

    And the Democratic president would say: I am going to promise you freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class citizen.

    I know, a dictatorship gets your dick hard. You don't need to tell me.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Tue Feb 8 20:39:00 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:dc467e9e-617d-4a2b-acdf-3aefdea372d1n@googlegroups.com:


    But we are wrecking the poor people with inflation instead. Most
    of the QE went into stock/real estate wealth.


    WE are not doing anything you fucking retard.

    You are clueless about what has driven the inflation we are seeing.
    You are ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS. Goddamned republitard dumbfuck, that is
    what you are.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Tue Feb 8 20:41:19 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:c2ffe8a4-37ee-496c-9f27-6e9fa3e5d01an@googlegroups.com:

    And the Democratic president would say: I am going to promise you
    freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class citizen.



    Your party centric abject stupidity is glaring, child. You have no
    fucking clue and should not be talking about US politics at all.
    Fuck you, Lee... "Ed" Lee.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Tue Feb 8 14:11:23 2022
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:c2ffe8a4-37ee-496c...@googlegroups.com:
    And the Democratic president would say: I am going to promise you
    freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class citizen.


    Your party centric abject stupidity is glaring, child. You have no
    fucking clue and should not be talking about US politics at all.

    None of us would be, if the OP didn't spam the newsgroup.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Tue Feb 8 16:20:04 2022
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:11:31 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:c2ffe8a4-37ee-496c...@googlegroups.com:

    And the Democratic president would say: I am going to promise you freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class citizen.

    Your party centric abject stupidity is glaring, child. You have no
    fucking clue and should not be talking about US politics at all.

    None of us would be, if the OP didn't spam the newsgroup.

    Don't be silly. US politics comes up here all the time. Technically speaking Decadent Linux User Numero Uno should have marked the post as off topic, but voting rights are central to democracy, and consequently of universal interest (except perhaps to
    those who think that everybody should vote for Donald Trump and nobody else).

    It certainly wasn't spam. The American Bar Association wasn't touting for business in the piece he linked to.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Tue Feb 8 17:52:54 2022
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:20:12 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:11:31 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:c2ffe8a4-37ee-496c...@googlegroups.com:

    And the Democratic president would say: I am going to promise you freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class citizen.

    Your party centric abject stupidity is glaring, child. You have no fucking clue and should not be talking about US politics at all.

    None of us would be, if the OP didn't spam the newsgroup.
    Don't be silly. US politics comes up here all the time. Technically speaking Decadent Linux User Numero Uno should have marked the post as off topic, but voting rights are central to democracy, and consequently of universal interest (except perhaps to
    those who think that everybody should vote for Donald Trump and nobody else).

    It certainly wasn't spam. The American Bar Association wasn't touting for business in the piece he linked to.

    Talking politic is fine. But then he advocate violent and racist statements against someone. Violent and racist attack against one is just as criminal as again million. Supporter of violent and racist advocate is just as guilty.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Tue Feb 8 18:13:12 2022
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 12:53:02 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:20:12 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:11:31 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:c2ffe8a4-37ee-496c...@googlegroups.com:

    And the Democratic president would say: I am going to promise you freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class citizen.

    Your party centric abject stupidity is glaring, child. You have no fucking clue and should not be talking about US politics at all.

    None of us would be, if the OP didn't spam the newsgroup.
    Don't be silly. US politics comes up here all the time. Technically speaking Decadent Linux User Numero Uno should have marked the post as off topic, but voting rights are central to democracy, and consequently of universal interest (except perhaps
    to those who think that everybody should vote for Donald Trump and nobody else).

    It certainly wasn't spam. The American Bar Association wasn't touting for business in the piece he linked to.

    Talking politics is fine. But then he advocate violent and racist statements against someone. Violent and racist attack against one is just as criminal as again million. Supporters of violent and racist advocate is just as guilty.

    He has said stuff that you interpret as violent and racist, but your reading comprehension isn't up to much. He'd actually have to do something violent to qualify as criminal, so you grasp of the law isn't great either. Talking about it might be a
    misdemeanor, but you'd have zero chance of getting any kind of conviction.

    You come across as an oversensitive wimp, and courts don't like having their time wasted by the excessively apprehensive.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to bill....@ieee.org on Tue Feb 8 18:17:27 2022
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 6:13:22 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 12:53:02 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:20:12 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:11:31 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:c2ffe8a4-37ee-496c...@googlegroups.com:

    And the Democratic president would say: I am going to promise you freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class citizen.

    Your party centric abject stupidity is glaring, child. You have no fucking clue and should not be talking about US politics at all.

    None of us would be, if the OP didn't spam the newsgroup.
    Don't be silly. US politics comes up here all the time. Technically speaking Decadent Linux User Numero Uno should have marked the post as off topic, but voting rights are central to democracy, and consequently of universal interest (except perhaps
    to those who think that everybody should vote for Donald Trump and nobody else).

    It certainly wasn't spam. The American Bar Association wasn't touting for business in the piece he linked to.

    Talking politics is fine. But then he advocate violent and racist statements against someone. Violent and racist attack against one is just as criminal as again million. Supporters of violent and racist advocate is just as guilty.

    He has said stuff that you interpret as violent and racist, but your reading comprehension isn't up to much. He'd actually have to do something violent to qualify as criminal, so you grasp of the law isn't great either. Talking about it might be a
    misdemeanor, but you'd have zero chance of getting any kind of conviction.

    Misdemeanour is still criminal. We don't tolerate it in real life. Why is it OK online?

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Tue Feb 8 19:36:10 2022
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 7:22:36 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:93eee2e0-6ae3-4d79...@googlegroups.com:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:c2ffe8a4-37ee-496c...@googlegroups.com:
    And the Democratic president would say: I am going to promise
    you freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class citizen.


    Your party centric abject stupidity is glaring, child. You have
    no fucking clue and should not be talking about US politics at
    all.

    None of us would be, if the OP didn't spam the newsgroup.

    And yet despite that opinion, you chimed in anyway, like the fuckin'
    group clutter retard you are.

    In case you don't understand our Constitution, Let me spell it out for you.

    US Constitution protects someone from violent and/or racial attacks as part of the civil rights. There is no exception for protection of civil rights, regardless of intentions, and/or whether the person deserved to be attacked.

    If there are no civil rights, who cares about voting rights. It is utmost hypocrical to promote voting rights with violation of civil rights.

    We are not discussing degree of criminality. Violation of civil right is criminal, against one or million.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Wed Feb 9 03:22:25 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:93eee2e0-6ae3-4d79-ae17-b73963d72eb6n@googlegroups.com:

    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:c2ffe8a4-37ee-496c...@googlegroups.com:
    And the Democratic president would say: I am going to promise
    you freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class citizen.


    Your party centric abject stupidity is glaring, child. You have
    no fucking clue and should not be talking about US politics at
    all.

    None of us would be, if the OP didn't spam the newsgroup.


    And yet despite that opinion, you chimed in anyway, like the fuckin'
    group clutter retard you are.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Tue Feb 8 20:06:54 2022
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:36:18 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 7:22:36 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:93eee2e0-6ae3-4d79...@googlegroups.com:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:c2ffe8a4-37ee-496c...@googlegroups.com:
    And the Democratic president would say: I am going to promise
    you freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class citizen.


    Your party centric abject stupidity is glaring, child. You have
    no fucking clue and should not be talking about US politics at
    all.

    None of us would be, if the OP didn't spam the newsgroup.

    And yet despite that opinion, you chimed in anyway, like the fuckin'
    group clutter retard you are.

    In case you don't understand our Constitution, Let me spell it out for you.

    US Constitution protects someone from violent and/or racial attacks as part of the civil rights. There is no exception for protection of civil rights, regardless of intentions, and/or whether the person deserved to be attacked.

    Extravagant arguments aren't the kind of "attacks" the US constitution might protect you against (and it certainly wasn't an effective protection for the Afro-American minority in he past).

    If there are no civil rights, who cares about voting rights. It is utmost hypocrical to promote voting rights with violation of civil rights.

    And silly to imagine that getting castigated for being silly violates anybodies civil rights. You may have a right to be silly, but you aren't protected against being jeered at for being silly.

    We are not discussing degree of criminality. Violation of civil right is criminal, against one or million.

    Except that the "civil right" that you want protected is your right to express half-witted opinions without getting jeered at, and that's you touting another half-witted opinion.

    Ignoring your idiocies tolerates them, so it amounts to evading one's civic duty to the international climate pf opinion.

    Supporting Trump is a rather more consequential form of the same crime.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Tue Feb 8 20:07:02 2022
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 1:17:35 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 6:13:22 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 12:53:02 PM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:20:12 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 9:11:31 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in news:c2ffe8a4-37ee-496c...@googlegroups.com:

    And the Democratic president would say: I am going to promise you
    freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class citizen.

    Your party centric abject stupidity is glaring, child. You have no fucking clue and should not be talking about US politics at all.

    None of us would be, if the OP didn't spam the newsgroup.
    Don't be silly. US politics comes up here all the time. Technically speaking Decadent Linux User Numero Uno should have marked the post as off topic, but voting rights are central to democracy, and consequently of universal interest (except
    perhaps to those who think that everybody should vote for Donald Trump and nobody else).

    It certainly wasn't spam. The American Bar Association wasn't touting for business in the piece he linked to.

    Talking politics is fine. But then he advocate violent and racist statements against someone. Violent and racist attack against one is just as criminal as again million. Supporters of violent and racist advocate is just as guilty.

    He has said stuff that you interpret as violent and racist, but your reading comprehension isn't up to much. He'd actually have to do something violent to qualify as criminal, so you grasp of the law isn't great either. Talking about it might be a
    misdemeanor, but you'd have zero chance of getting any kind of conviction.

    Misdemeanour is still criminal. We don't tolerate it in real life. Why is it OK online?

    It isn't. US law distinguishes between crimes and misdemeanors, even if you don't. We tolerate quite a lot in real life - as you'd notice if you were exposed to it, but Decadent Linux User Numero Uno didn't advocate anything violent or racist - he
    merely pointed how happy he'd be if some else carried out a particular violent act.

    "We would be happy if you found a lake of fire and dove in."

    You really do need to grow up.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Wed Feb 9 06:19:14 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:bf3bcf8c-3eb3-4887-a0ad-cb9412eff797n@googlegroups.com:

    Talking politic is fine. But then he advocate violent and racist
    statements against someone. Violent and racist attack against one
    is just as criminal as again million. Supporter of violent and
    racist advocate is just as guilty.


    There was no violence, you fucking retard.

    And the comment about your stupid name was a slap in the face for the
    stupid shit you posted to Bill.

    Now grow the fuck up and shut the fuck up, fucktard.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Wed Feb 9 06:22:40 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:5068fdc9-bb65-4564-a9bd-214f5f32e07cn@googlegroups.com:

    Misdemeanour

    Learn to spell, idiot.

    is still criminal.

    Except there was none, dumbfuck.

    We don't tolerate it in real
    life.

    You keep saying "we" as if to separate yourself from the rest of us.
    You speak for no one but yourself, idiot.

    Why is it OK online?

    You are mumbling... again... child.
    Grow the fuck up. CCAD Trump retard!

    Catch
    Covid
    And
    Die

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Wed Feb 9 06:35:30 2022
    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:b6b69754-ce15-4aaf-8061-3c10d51441efn@googlegroups.com:

    Except that the "civil right" that you want protected is your
    right to express half-witted opinions without getting jeered at,
    and that's you touting another half-witted opinion.

    Ignoring your idiocies tolerates them, so it amounts to evading
    one's civic duty to the international climate pf opinion.

    Supporting Trump is a rather more consequential form of the same
    crime.


    Spot on, every point. Particularly the last one, since he made the declaration about ignoring crimes. Trump is an extreme racist and is
    extremely dangerous to the nation and the entire world, but retarded
    Trump followers watch Faux Non-News and do not get exposed to the truth
    about Trump or the danger to OUR democracy and OUR nation he poses.

    IF you (Ed) are a citizen, then it would be your civic duty to
    separate yourself from politicians whom are so racist, so fascist, and
    so criminal.

    And you (Ed) want to claim to be an American. Backing Trump negates
    that claim. PERIOD.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Wed Feb 9 06:30:11 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:8817fff6-b6f1-4176-be54-b58d5caaf3b9n@googlegroups.com:

    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 7:22:36 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:93eee2e0-6ae3-4d79...@googlegroups.com:
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 12:41:30 PM UTC-8,
    DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:c2ffe8a4-37ee-496c...@googlegroups.com:
    And the Democratic president would say: I am going to
    promise you freedom and and prosperity as poor second-class
    citizen.


    Your party centric abject stupidity is glaring, child. You
    have no fucking clue and should not be talking about US
    politics at all.

    None of us would be, if the OP didn't spam the newsgroup.

    And yet despite that opinion, you chimed in anyway, like the
    fuckin' group clutter retard you are.

    In case you don't understand our Constitution, Let me spell it out
    for you.



    Hahahaha... The English language total retard Ed Lee wants to
    spell something out for me. How quaint.

    US Constitution protects someone from violent and/or racial
    attacks as part of the civil rights.

    Let us know when someone attacks you or your race. I get along
    fine with Chinese co-workers, subordinates and bosses just fine. I
    do NOT tolerate some lame fucktard spouting off at others calling
    them "foreigners", and then getting stupid when you get it back in
    your face.

    "The only good attacker is a dead attacker." -Jack Reacher

    There is no exception for
    protection of civil rights,

    You are mumbling, again, boy.

    regardless of intentions, and/or
    whether the person deserved to be attacked.

    Again, let us know when you are attacked. Be sure to get the video
    so you can post it on YouTube.

    If there are no civil rights, who cares about voting rights.

    So, the retard is really here to attack my post content. FUCK OFF,
    Ed LEE, you retarded Trump cult jackass!

    It
    is utmost hypocrical to promote voting rights with violation of
    civil rights.

    The site I posted had nothing in it regarding any civil rights,
    much less a violation of any. Grow the fuck up, and get the fuck out
    of my thread.

    We are not discussing degree of criminality.

    There was none. Except perhaps by the guy who gave you your green
    card.

    Violation of civil
    right is criminal, against one or million.

    Let us know when yours are violated, punk. They certainly were not
    here. Now CCAD!






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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Wed Feb 9 06:38:26 2022
    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:fd4f781e- 78cc-46d8-a6ad-48009dae3514n@googlegroups.com:


    "We would be happy if you found a lake of fire and dove in."

    You really do need to grow up.


    Is that what the idiot says was a violent threat? You're kidding.
    Seen any lakes of fire lately?

    Oh yeah... Hawaii and Spain, right?

    Yeah, like that Lee idiot could afford to go to Hawaii or Spain to
    jump into a lava river.

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Wed Feb 9 06:44:10 2022
    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 10:38:37 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    ... empty nonsense ...

    It is utmost hypocrisy for the OP to use violent threat, racial slur and demeaning statements to promote his idea of protecting minorities/immigrants with voting rights. So, he is suppressing the very same group he claims to protect. Violent threat and
    racial slur are immoral, if not illegal, against one or million. Offenders often attack victims and then blame them for being "sensitive". It is part of people
    's civil rights to be free from violent and racist physical and/or verbal attacks. Without civil rights who cares about voting rights?

    People disagree on issues, but with restraints on personal attack. OP crossed the line with violent threat and racial slur that are immoral, if not illegal. If that is the true nature of the Democratic Party he is promoting, we know better not to
    support it. Very often, part of the political party is hijacked by supremacy group and actively promoting race and class warfare.

    In typical cultural/racial supremacy person's deep inner mind, minorities/immigrants are second class citizens. Their deficiency must first be revealed in low-level primitive languages. They are demeaned first, and then be protected. A typical
    response is to humiliate their origin, or the way they talk or write. The goal is to silence voices of the oppressed group, in order to promote oppressor's self interest.

    To hide their real feelings, supremacy group is often very active in promoting and protecting minority interests, but in fact suppressing them. Supremacy group is not limited to the majority group. Sometimes, it is just one minority group attacking
    another minority group.

    When such person feel threaten to be revealed, he often resort to repeated abusive statements and insults to mask out his own fear and anger. We do not tolerate violent and racist attacks in real life, why should it be different online?

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Wed Feb 9 15:54:16 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:fec34058-b4d5-4963-ba9a-16c1e90f3b14n@googlegroups.com:

    On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 10:38:37 PM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    ... empty nonsense ...

    It is utmost hypocrisy

    You keep saying that stupid shit.

    for the OP to use violent threat,

    Again, PUTZ! NOBODY made a threat, little boy. Grow the fuck up.

    racial
    slur and demeaning statements to promote his idea of protecting minorities/immigrants with voting rights.

    You were slapped for the way you talked to Bill. It had NOTHING to
    do with the post content. Get that through your tiny little head,
    child.

    So, he is suppressing
    the very same group he claims to protect.

    I made no claims, you retarded putz.

    Violent threat and
    racial slur are immoral,

    Which didn't happen.

    if not illegal, against one or million.

    Your false claim is retarded, whether you spout it once or a
    million times. Did you learn that stupid shit from Trump?

    Offenders often attack victims and then blame them for being
    "sensitive".

    You were never attacked. You got a standard Usenet slap in the
    face for the one you tried to apply to Bill. You deserve worse, but
    Usenet does not allow for delivery of fast moving hunks of lead...
    only texts. No smellivision either, or you would surely stink up the
    place, TrumpTurd.

    It is part of people 's civil rights to be free from
    violent and racist physical and/or verbal attacks.

    You were not attacked, and you DID attack Bill and now you want no
    response for that? Fuck you and the whore you were shat out of.

    Without civil
    rights who cares about voting rights?

    Except none of yours were volated, or you would not be here still
    posting your retarded nonsense cracks at people.

    People disagree on issues,

    Oh boy! You copied and pasted the same shit you already posted.
    Is that mature Usenet behavior?

    but with restraints on personal attack.

    If you were attacked, you would be able to post a pick of your
    badly bruised face. Instead all you can do is cry about your badly
    bruised ego after ypou mouthed off at Bill and got it back in your
    face PUNK.

    OP crossed the line with violent threat and racial slur that are
    immoral, if not illegal.

    Except there was none. You can say it all you want, but it will
    not make it true, putz boy. You do know what a putz is, right? Or
    is that yet another word you are clueless about?

    If that is the true nature of the
    Democratic Party he is promoting, we know better not to support
    it.

    "democratis" is the entire system, idiot. "democrat" is a party.
    NOT 'democratic'. So like I said... go take a remedial English
    course, because you currently have little to no grasp of it.

    Very often, part of the political party is hijacked by
    supremacy group and actively promoting race and class warfare.

    You are talking about the republican party there and Trump cult
    retards, I guess you are unaware of in your personal love for being
    up Trump's fat ass.

    snipped retarded attempt at psychology by a hypocritical utter idiot.

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  • From Ed Lee@21:1/5 to DecadentLinux...@decadence.org on Wed Feb 9 09:20:01 2022
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 7:54:28 AM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    If that is the true nature of the Democratic Party he is promoting, we know better not to support it.
    "democratis" is the entire system, idiot. "democrat" is a party.
    NOT 'democratic'. So like I said... go take a remedial English
    course, because you currently have little to no grasp of it.

    May be you should. You are promoting the Democratic Party, not the system of Democracy.

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  • From Anthony William Sloman@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Wed Feb 9 17:53:22 2022
    On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 4:20:10 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 7:54:28 AM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    If that is the true nature of the Democratic Party he is promoting, we know better not to support it.

    "democratic" is the entire system, idiot. "democrat" is a party.
    NOT 'democratic'. So like I said... go take a remedial English
    course, because you currently have little to no grasp of it.

    May be you should. You are promoting the Democratic Party, not the system of Democracy.

    Granting what the US Republican Party tries to do to voter rights and voter rolls, they certainly aren't remotely interested in democracy.

    The US Democrat Party is a bit better, so promoting them is a step to getting the US closer to actual democracy.

    Getting it to adopt proportional representation with multi-member constituencies, which is the norm over most of Europe, would get the US even closer to genuinely representative democracy.

    It leads to multi-party coalition governments, which means that the full diversity of public opinion gets represented in the legislature, rather than the cut-down range that gets attention in two-party states like the US, the UK and Australia. Australia
    does have proportional representation in it's upper house - our Senate - and the saner minor parties and the independents do help, but they can't initiate legislation, even if they can block some partisan idiocies.

    --
    Bill Sloman, Sydney

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Anthony William Sloman on Fri Feb 11 06:11:55 2022
    Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:0a2f31f6-f3cd-477a-b91f-894571c347b1n@googlegroups.com:

    On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 4:20:10 AM UTC+11, Ed Lee wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 7:54:28 AM UTC-8,
    DecadentLinux...@deca
    dence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    If that is the true nature of the Democratic Party he is
    promoting, w
    e know better not to support it.

    "democratic" is the entire system, idiot. "democrat" is a
    party. NOT 'democratic'. So like I said... go take a remedial
    English course, because you currently have little to no grasp
    of it.

    May be you should. You are promoting the Democratic Party, not
    the system
    of Democracy.

    Granting what the US Republican Party tries to do to voter rights
    and voter rolls, they certainly aren't remotely interested in
    democracy.

    The US Democrat Party is a bit better, so promoting them is a step
    to getting the US closer to actual democracy.

    Getting it to adopt proportional representation with multi-member constituencies, which is the norm over most of Europe, would get
    the US even closer to genuinely representative democracy.

    It leads to multi-party coalition governments, which means that
    the full diversity of public opinion gets represented in the
    legislature, rather than the cut-down range that gets attention in
    two-party states like the US, the UK and Australia. Australia
    does have proportional representation in it's upper house - our
    Senate - and the saner minor parties and the independents do
    help, but they can't initiate legislation, even if they can block
    some partisan idiocies.


    Well, you just went several miles over his head.

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  • From DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadenc@21:1/5 to Ed Lee on Fri Feb 11 06:05:18 2022
    Ed Lee <edward.ming.lee@gmail.com> wrote in news:267b572c-91cc-423b-ad3b-1cb7180dc0dbn@googlegroups.com:

    On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 7:54:28 AM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
    Ed Lee <edward....@gmail.com> wrote in
    If that is the true nature of the Democratic Party he is
    promoting, we know better not to support it.
    "democratis" is the entire system, idiot. "democrat" is a party.
    NOT 'democratic'. So like I said... go take a remedial English
    course, because you currently have little to no grasp of it.

    May be you should. You are promoting the Democratic Party, not
    the system of Democracy.


    You're a goddamned idiot.

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