• is nichrome wire corrosion proof?

    From Ruk@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 23 07:49:01 2021
    I have a need to use some nichrome wire for an outdoor project where it
    will be partially exposed to the elements (mainly humidity extremes but
    also might get wet at times). Is it corrosion proof? Thank you.

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  • From Peter W.@21:1/5 to Ruk on Tue Nov 23 05:22:37 2021
    On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 7:49:07 AM UTC-5, Ruk wrote:
    I have a need to use some nichrome wire for an outdoor project where it
    will be partially exposed to the elements (mainly humidity extremes but
    also might get wet at times). Is it corrosion proof? Thank you.

    Nothing, not even fine gold, is corrosion-*proof*. But, there are grades of Nichrome from -20 to -80, as the nickel content increases, its general resistance to corrosion also increases - with caveats.

    Nichrome-80 is suitable for exposed use and corrosion-resistant at very high temperatures, and is most used for critical applications. Nichrome-60 is most commonly used in household devices such as toasters and space-heaters, as well as back-up heat in
    older heat-pumps and electric house furnaces and similar. Nichrome-20 is often used for fasteners and clamps that do not carry power, but must be heat-resistant and relatively corrosion-resistant.

    For high-humidity environments, specifically, N-60 is the most commonly used - as a specific example - the heating element in a clothes dryer.

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From Stephen Wolstenholme@21:1/5 to Ruk on Tue Nov 23 13:27:22 2021
    On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 07:49:01 -0500, Ruk <rthekeeper@zed.net> wrote:

    I have a need to use some nichrome wire for an outdoor project where it
    will be partially exposed to the elements (mainly humidity extremes but
    also might get wet at times). Is it corrosion proof? Thank you.

    It is water resistant and does not corrode unless it gets very hot.

    Steve

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  • From Peter W.@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 23 06:47:43 2021
    It is water resistant and does not corrode unless it gets very hot.

    Careful! That depends very much on the formula. -60, -70 & -80 are formulated to be corrosion-resistant *WHEN* hot. -70 has the highest operating temperature.

    https://temcoindustrial.com/product-guides/wire-cable-and-accessories/resistance-and-non-resistance-wire/nichrome-wire tells some, but by no means all of the story.

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to Ruk on Tue Nov 23 11:36:47 2021
    Ruk wrote:
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    I have a need to use some nichrome wire for an outdoor project where it
    will be partially exposed to the elements (mainly humidity extremes but
    also might get wet at times). Is it corrosion proof? Thank you.


    ** Can't you coat is in a lacquer to keep water off ?
    Will it get hot?

    So many questions, so few answers.

    .... Phil

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  • From Jeff Liebermann@21:1/5 to Ruk on Wed Nov 24 10:08:17 2021
    On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 07:49:01 -0500, Ruk <rthekeeper@zed.net> wrote:

    I have a need to use some nichrome wire for an outdoor project where it
    will be partially exposed to the elements (mainly humidity extremes but
    also might get wet at times). Is it corrosion proof? Thank you.

    My house has a nichrome wire bathroom wall heater. No corrosion in
    about 50 years in a rather wet and humid bathroom environment.
    However, I'm not sure what nichrome will do in a marine (salt)
    environment. My guess(tm) is that it's ok but it might help to check
    if you're using it in a marine environment.




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  • From Peter W.@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 24 10:58:56 2021
    ** Can't you coat is in a lacquer to keep water off ?
    Will it get hot?

    Nichrome. Lacquer. Water. Think about it.
    "Water damages lacquer by turning it milky and hazy. Finishers call this milkiness "blushing" when it occurs while the finish is being applied. Water also can be responsible for the white rings produced by hot or wet glasses and pots left standing on a
    lacquered tabletop."

    Nichrome is chosen, typically, for its heating quality under power.
    Lacquer is generally not a heat-resistant product.
    Lacquer is also not a water-resistant product as normally formulated.

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to Peter W. on Wed Nov 24 12:03:59 2021
    Peter W. wrote:
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    ** Can't you coat is in a lacquer to keep water off ?
    Will it get hot?

    Nichrome. Lacquer. Water. Think about it.

    ** Acrylic lacquer is waterproof.

    Nichrome is chosen, typically, for its heating quality under power.

    ** In electronics it is used for its zero tempco of resistance.

    FFS I posted question, not statements.

    YOU should do the same - asshole.

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  • From Peter W.@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 25 04:47:34 2021
    "Acrylic" lacquer is not lacquer.

    The correct formula Nichrome to the use needs no protection. It would make sense to choose the correct formula rather than to go to heroic measures to protect the wrong one.

    Heating would obviate the applied 'protection' in any case.

    Eschew needless complexity - William of Occam

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to Peter Wanker is not Human on Thu Nov 25 04:54:50 2021
    Peter Wanker is not Human wrote:
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    "Acrylic" lacquer is not lacquer.

    ** ROTFLMAFAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The correct formula Nichrome to the use needs no protection.

    ** What use ?????


    Heating would obviate the applied 'protection' in any case.

    ** Bollocks .

    Wot a fucking nut case IDIOT



    ... Phil

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  • From Phil Allison@21:1/5 to Peter Wanker is a Ridiculous IDIOT on Thu Nov 25 14:14:07 2021
    Peter Wanker is a Ridiculous IDIOT wrote: ========================================

    We have four (4) carpets made in Egypt that we purchased in Saudi Arabia.

    ** But do any of them fly ?
    If so - go take a ride on one.

    Drongo: Define your terms;

    ** FFS you illiterate, autistic bloody fool - read what I *actually* wrote !!!


    ..... Phil

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  • From Peter W.@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 25 14:01:17 2021
    We have four (4) carpets made in Egypt that we purchased in Saudi Arabia. They are of a typical "oriental" pattern and may be seen here:

    https://images.rugimg.com/3119204/3119204_image_1010.jpg?width=2000&quality=55&height=2000&fit=bounds

    However, they are as much an Oriental Rug as 'Acrylic' lacquer is lacquer. Being as they are made of polypropylene on a machine. Lacquer, to anyone that restores vintage radio is *only* a liquid made of shellac dissolved in alcohol. Synthetic 'lacquer'
    is entirely something else, of course.

    Drongo: Define your terms; it will look less the idiot that you are.

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From Peter W.@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 25 17:06:22 2021
    As it happens, you wrote a whole lot of garbage to make yourself look useful. But had nothing to do with the question at hand.

    Drongo:

    A fool, a simpleton, an idiot.

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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