• Help identifying a blown IC and resistor

    From Jannie Brand@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 10 06:15:54 2021
    Hi Folks

    I have a COMMAX DRC-4L Video doorphone camera that isn't working anymore.

    This is part of a faulty Commax CDV-43k/DRC-4L (Stock Code: PI-1176) intercom that I basically got for free. I think something must have shorted or gone wrong as the power supply board of the main intercom unit (CDV-43k) itself (converting wall power of
    220v to 15v) was blown. I've been able to replace the power supply board and had to replace some components (mainly a few ferrite beads and a resistor or 2, if I remember correctly) on the main PC board of the intercom unit itself as well. After that it
    seemed that the intercom was working and I connected the DRC-4L camera unit, which seemed to power on and the LEDs came on as well, but the camera feed didn't display on the intercom screen. After confirming that everything seems to be correct on the
    intercom unit, I suspected the camera itself to perhaps also have an issue or perhaps even some blow components.

    Long story short, once I remove the camera unit completely, I noticed 2 blown components on the back. An surface mount 6-pin IC (marked U8) and a SMD resistor (marked R23). Here is a link to some photos: https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy.

    From what I can make out from the remain bits of the code on the resistor, it seems like the code could be 75R0, which means it's a 75 ohm 0805 SMD resistor, right? Please let me know if I at least got that right.

    The IC however, I have no idea what it could be. I'm also not sure of the exact orientation of the chip, in other words where pin 1 is located, but I have indicated on the image which pin I suspect is pin 1. Based on my suspected pin 1, I can tell you
    that pin 2 is most likely the ground pin, as that is the only pin that has a direct connection (short) with ground. I was also able to detect 12V on pin 3 & 4 when the camera was powered on. Something else that I noticed was that there is a similar
    looking 6-pin IC, marked U9, towards the right-bottom corner of the board (as indicated on photo: https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy). The code on that IC is AJ6LE. I checked the same pins and it seems that pin 2 is also ground and I also detected 12V on pin 3 &
    4.

    I am unable to find any information on the AJ6LE IC online, so I don't know if anyone here could maybe help to find out what exactly that IC is, so that we could hopefully determine if it is likely the same as the IC that has blown.

    Otherwise I have also tried searching online for information on the camera board itself, but couldn't find anything that gave me any indication of the specs of the IC or what IC to try and replace it with. I also tried to search for the schematic, but
    couldn't find anything.

    Also the leads coming into the camera board is:
    - Red is 12V+
    - Blue is GND
    - Yellow is Video

    Here is a link with a few photos of a circuit board that isn't working anymore: https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy

    If anyone can perhaps help me identify the blown IC or perhaps point me in the right direction that would be greatly appreciated.

    Let me know if you require any other information from me.

    Regards,
    Jannie

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  • From Peter W.@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 10 07:34:32 2021
    That appears to be a current device - or at least it is available on the open market. Have you tried the "mother ship", being the manufacturer?

    Here, also, is a current source: https://www.megateh.eu/products/commax-intercom-outdoor-stations/commax-drc-4l-video-doorphone-camera

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

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  • From ohger1s@gmail.com@21:1/5 to Jannie Brand on Wed Nov 10 08:31:17 2021
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 9:15:56 AM UTC-5, Jannie Brand wrote:
    Hi Folks

    I have a COMMAX DRC-4L Video doorphone camera that isn't working anymore.

    This is part of a faulty Commax CDV-43k/DRC-4L (Stock Code: PI-1176) intercom that I basically got for free. I think something must have shorted or gone wrong as the power supply board of the main intercom unit (CDV-43k) itself (converting wall power
    of 220v to 15v) was blown. I've been able to replace the power supply board and had to replace some components (mainly a few ferrite beads and a resistor or 2, if I remember correctly) on the main PC board of the intercom unit itself as well. After that
    it seemed that the intercom was working and I connected the DRC-4L camera unit, which seemed to power on and the LEDs came on as well, but the camera feed didn't display on the intercom screen. After confirming that everything seems to be correct on the
    intercom unit, I suspected the camera itself to perhaps also have an issue or perhaps even some blow components.

    Long story short, once I remove the camera unit completely, I noticed 2 blown components on the back. An surface mount 6-pin IC (marked U8) and a SMD resistor (marked R23). Here is a link to some photos: https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy.

    From what I can make out from the remain bits of the code on the resistor, it seems like the code could be 75R0, which means it's a 75 ohm 0805 SMD resistor, right? Please let me know if I at least got that right.

    The IC however, I have no idea what it could be. I'm also not sure of the exact orientation of the chip, in other words where pin 1 is located, but I have indicated on the image which pin I suspect is pin 1. Based on my suspected pin 1, I can tell you
    that pin 2 is most likely the ground pin, as that is the only pin that has a direct connection (short) with ground. I was also able to detect 12V on pin 3 & 4 when the camera was powered on. Something else that I noticed was that there is a similar
    looking 6-pin IC, marked U9, towards the right-bottom corner of the board (as indicated on photo: https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy). The code on that IC is AJ6LE. I checked the same pins and it seems that pin 2 is also ground and I also detected 12V on pin 3 &
    4.

    I am unable to find any information on the AJ6LE IC online, so I don't know if anyone here could maybe help to find out what exactly that IC is, so that we could hopefully determine if it is likely the same as the IC that has blown.

    Otherwise I have also tried searching online for information on the camera board itself, but couldn't find anything that gave me any indication of the specs of the IC or what IC to try and replace it with. I also tried to search for the schematic, but
    couldn't find anything.

    Also the leads coming into the camera board is:
    - Red is 12V+
    - Blue is GND
    - Yellow is Video

    Here is a link with a few photos of a circuit board that isn't working anymore:
    https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy

    If anyone can perhaps help me identify the blown IC or perhaps point me in the right direction that would be greatly appreciated.

    Let me know if you require any other information from me.

    Regards,
    Jannie

    Those six pin ICs are trouble. Some of them are only switches, and you can work around them assuming you know exactly what you're dealing with. Somewhere in a box I have a very expensive portable HDMI generator with that type of chip that failed and
    burned the numbers off it. I don't really need it anymore, but it would be nice to have anyway.

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  • From Michael Terrell@21:1/5 to Jannie Brand on Wed Nov 10 09:39:20 2021
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 9:15:56 AM UTC-5, Jannie Brand wrote:
    Hi Folks

    I have a COMMAX DRC-4L Video doorphone camera that isn't working anymore.

    This is part of a faulty Commax CDV-43k/DRC-4L (Stock Code: PI-1176) intercom that I basically got for free. I think something must have shorted or gone wrong as the power supply board of the main intercom unit (CDV-43k) itself (converting wall power
    of 220v to 15v) was blown. I've been able to replace the power supply board and had to replace some components (mainly a few ferrite beads and a resistor or 2, if I remember correctly) on the main PC board of the intercom unit itself as well. After that
    it seemed that the intercom was working and I connected the DRC-4L camera unit, which seemed to power on and the LEDs came on as well, but the camera feed didn't display on the intercom screen. After confirming that everything seems to be correct on the
    intercom unit, I suspected the camera itself to perhaps also have an issue or perhaps even some blow components.

    Long story short, once I remove the camera unit completely, I noticed 2 blown components on the back. An surface mount 6-pin IC (marked U8) and a SMD resistor (marked R23). Here is a link to some photos: https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy.

    From what I can make out from the remain bits of the code on the resistor, it seems like the code could be 75R0, which means it's a 75 ohm 0805 SMD resistor, right? Please let me know if I at least got that right.

    The IC however, I have no idea what it could be. I'm also not sure of the exact orientation of the chip, in other words where pin 1 is located, but I have indicated on the image which pin I suspect is pin 1. Based on my suspected pin 1, I can tell you
    that pin 2 is most likely the ground pin, as that is the only pin that has a direct connection (short) with ground. I was also able to detect 12V on pin 3 & 4 when the camera was powered on. Something else that I noticed was that there is a similar
    looking 6-pin IC, marked U9, towards the right-bottom corner of the board (as indicated on photo: https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy). The code on that IC is AJ6LE. I checked the same pins and it seems that pin 2 is also ground and I also detected 12V on pin 3 &
    4.

    I am unable to find any information on the AJ6LE IC online, so I don't know if anyone here could maybe help to find out what exactly that IC is, so that we could hopefully determine if it is likely the same as the IC that has blown.

    Otherwise I have also tried searching online for information on the camera board itself, but couldn't find anything that gave me any indication of the specs of the IC or what IC to try and replace it with. I also tried to search for the schematic, but
    couldn't find anything.

    Also the leads coming into the camera board is:
    - Red is 12V+
    - Blue is GND
    - Yellow is Video

    Here is a link with a few photos of a circuit board that isn't working anymore:
    https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy

    If anyone can perhaps help me identify the blown IC or perhaps point me in the right direction that would be greatly appreciated.

    Let me know if you require any other information from me.

    Regards,
    Jannie

    https://www.commax.com/eng/index.php?cate1=112&cate2=57&cate3=70&nnum=2180
    It looks like the design is seven years old. Good luck getting information from the OEM.

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  • From three_jeeps@21:1/5 to Jannie Brand on Wed Nov 10 14:10:10 2021
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 9:15:56 AM UTC-5, Jannie Brand wrote:
    Hi Folks

    I have a COMMAX DRC-4L Video doorphone camera that isn't working anymore.

    This is part of a faulty Commax CDV-43k/DRC-4L (Stock Code: PI-1176) intercom that I basically got for free. I think something must have shorted or gone wrong as the power supply board of the main intercom unit (CDV-43k) itself (converting wall power
    of 220v to 15v) was blown. I've been able to replace the power supply board and had to replace some components (mainly a few ferrite beads and a resistor or 2, if I remember correctly) on the main PC board of the intercom unit itself as well. After that
    it seemed that the intercom was working and I connected the DRC-4L camera unit, which seemed to power on and the LEDs came on as well, but the camera feed didn't display on the intercom screen. After confirming that everything seems to be correct on the
    intercom unit, I suspected the camera itself to perhaps also have an issue or perhaps even some blow components.

    Long story short, once I remove the camera unit completely, I noticed 2 blown components on the back. An surface mount 6-pin IC (marked U8) and a SMD resistor (marked R23). Here is a link to some photos: https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy.

    From what I can make out from the remain bits of the code on the resistor, it seems like the code could be 75R0, which means it's a 75 ohm 0805 SMD resistor, right? Please let me know if I at least got that right.

    The IC however, I have no idea what it could be. I'm also not sure of the exact orientation of the chip, in other words where pin 1 is located, but I have indicated on the image which pin I suspect is pin 1. Based on my suspected pin 1, I can tell you
    that pin 2 is most likely the ground pin, as that is the only pin that has a direct connection (short) with ground. I was also able to detect 12V on pin 3 & 4 when the camera was powered on. Something else that I noticed was that there is a similar
    looking 6-pin IC, marked U9, towards the right-bottom corner of the board (as indicated on photo: https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy). The code on that IC is AJ6LE. I checked the same pins and it seems that pin 2 is also ground and I also detected 12V on pin 3 &
    4.

    I am unable to find any information on the AJ6LE IC online, so I don't know if anyone here could maybe help to find out what exactly that IC is, so that we could hopefully determine if it is likely the same as the IC that has blown.

    Otherwise I have also tried searching online for information on the camera board itself, but couldn't find anything that gave me any indication of the specs of the IC or what IC to try and replace it with. I also tried to search for the schematic, but
    couldn't find anything.

    Also the leads coming into the camera board is:
    - Red is 12V+
    - Blue is GND
    - Yellow is Video

    Here is a link with a few photos of a circuit board that isn't working anymore:
    https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy

    If anyone can perhaps help me identify the blown IC or perhaps point me in the right direction that would be greatly appreciated.

    Let me know if you require any other information from me.

    Regards,
    Jannie

    Yes the resistor value is correct.
    Here is a webpage that can help
    http://kiloohm.info/smd4-resistor/

    Any chance you can locate a similar unit and take a peek inside?
    J

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  • From Jannie Brand@21:1/5 to Peter W. on Wed Nov 10 21:47:10 2021
    On Wednesday, 10 November 2021 at 17:34:37 UTC+2, Peter W. wrote:
    That appears to be a current device - or at least it is available on the open market. Have you tried the "mother ship", being the manufacturer?

    Here, also, is a current source: https://www.megateh.eu/products/commax-intercom-outdoor-stations/commax-drc-4l-video-doorphone-camera

    Peter Wieck
    Melrose Park, PA

    Hi Peter,

    I have actually sent an email to the local distributor here in South Africa (Spectrum Security Products) to hear if they maybe have any replacement parts available for this camera unit. I assume that if they do, then it might cost a pretty penny as the
    camera unit itself is not cheap around here, but who knows, maybe I get lucky. It would obviously be much cheaper to just fix the current board, if at all possible.

    Regards,
    Jannie

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  • From Jannie Brand@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 10 22:20:24 2021
    On Thursday, 11 November 2021 at 00:10:12 UTC+2, three_jeeps wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 9:15:56 AM UTC-5, Jannie Brand wrote:
    Hi Folks

    I have a COMMAX DRC-4L Video doorphone camera that isn't working anymore.

    This is part of a faulty Commax CDV-43k/DRC-4L (Stock Code: PI-1176) intercom that I basically got for free. I think something must have shorted or gone wrong as the power supply board of the main intercom unit (CDV-43k) itself (converting wall power
    of 220v to 15v) was blown. I've been able to replace the power supply board and had to replace some components (mainly a few ferrite beads and a resistor or 2, if I remember correctly) on the main PC board of the intercom unit itself as well. After that
    it seemed that the intercom was working and I connected the DRC-4L camera unit, which seemed to power on and the LEDs came on as well, but the camera feed didn't display on the intercom screen. After confirming that everything seems to be correct on the
    intercom unit, I suspected the camera itself to perhaps also have an issue or perhaps even some blow components.

    Long story short, once I remove the camera unit completely, I noticed 2 blown components on the back. An surface mount 6-pin IC (marked U8) and a SMD resistor (marked R23). Here is a link to some photos: https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy.

    From what I can make out from the remain bits of the code on the resistor, it seems like the code could be 75R0, which means it's a 75 ohm 0805 SMD resistor, right? Please let me know if I at least got that right.

    The IC however, I have no idea what it could be. I'm also not sure of the exact orientation of the chip, in other words where pin 1 is located, but I have indicated on the image which pin I suspect is pin 1. Based on my suspected pin 1, I can tell
    you that pin 2 is most likely the ground pin, as that is the only pin that has a direct connection (short) with ground. I was also able to detect 12V on pin 3 & 4 when the camera was powered on. Something else that I noticed was that there is a similar
    looking 6-pin IC, marked U9, towards the right-bottom corner of the board (as indicated on photo: https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy). The code on that IC is AJ6LE. I checked the same pins and it seems that pin 2 is also ground and I also detected 12V on pin 3 &
    4.

    I am unable to find any information on the AJ6LE IC online, so I don't know if anyone here could maybe help to find out what exactly that IC is, so that we could hopefully determine if it is likely the same as the IC that has blown.

    Otherwise I have also tried searching online for information on the camera board itself, but couldn't find anything that gave me any indication of the specs of the IC or what IC to try and replace it with. I also tried to search for the schematic,
    but couldn't find anything.

    Also the leads coming into the camera board is:
    - Red is 12V+
    - Blue is GND
    - Yellow is Video

    Here is a link with a few photos of a circuit board that isn't working anymore:
    https://imgur.com/a/8hWJyiy

    If anyone can perhaps help me identify the blown IC or perhaps point me in the right direction that would be greatly appreciated.

    Let me know if you require any other information from me.

    Regards,
    Jannie
    Yes the resistor value is correct.
    Here is a webpage that can help
    http://kiloohm.info/smd4-resistor/

    Any chance you can locate a similar unit and take a peek inside?
    J


    Hi there,

    Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, but the units are a bit expensive to buy just for that and then I'll be stuck with a 2nd unit that I wouldn't need. Also, even though I considered it, I wouldn't want to buy a unit, open it up just to peek and then
    put it back together again and return it ... just doesn't feel like the right thing to do.

    I'm also on the lookout locally for 2nd hand units, but it seems that people rarely sell the camera unit on it's own, it's usually the full intercom system. I might still get lucky, but time will tell.

    Regards,
    Jannie

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