• Re: PCB Circuit diagram for Intertactive Health EMS12 massage chair

    From Bertrand Sindri@21:1/5 to Amanda Ripanykhazova on Sun Jan 7 04:48:53 2024
    Amanda Ripanykhazova <licensedtoquill@gmail.com> wrote:

    Look under Vitalityweb.com. $3,000, 90 day warranty. Cheap. Clearly
    there is not a great deal of faith in its longevity.

    But I don't see that as a reason not to let anyone see the circuit
    diagram?

    If, by witholding the circuit diagram you can't repair your old one and
    this results in a sale of a new $3,000 chair, then the company sees
    3000 reasons to withhold the circuit diagram.

    Have to keep the new product sales treadmill running, and we can't let
    repair of old models result in lost sales of new ones. Or so the
    corporate doublethink goes.

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  • From Bertrand Sindri@21:1/5 to Amandaa Ripanykhazov on Mon Jan 8 04:37:53 2024
    Amandaa Ripanykhazov <licensedtoquill@gmail.com> wrote:
    Have to keep the new product sales treadmill running, and we can't
    let repair of old models result in lost sales of new ones. Or so
    the corporate doublethink goes.

    But who in their right mind would dream of buying a new three
    thousand dollar item from a company which would not only not support
    their products, but which would so infuriate their customers by
    telling them to get lost when they even dare to ask for a circuit
    diagram??

    Ah, but see, there's where you are indicating you are not the typical
    customer.

    For a $3000 massage chair, the typical customer (and 99% of all the
    customers) will do one of two things when their $3000 chair fails.

    One, if the chair is in warranty, they will instruct their personal
    assistant to file a warranty claim.

    Two, if the chair is out of warranty, they will instruct their personal assistant to purchase a new chair and dispose of the failed one.

    And the corporate doublethinkers know this, and are banking on this
    behavior from 99% of their customers.

    You fall into that remaining 1%, and they have no issue with telling
    you to go pound sand, because you are not enough revenue to matter, nor
    will you likely have sufficient influence to impact the sales treadmill
    for the 99% remainder.

    For my part, I'd prefer to publicise to the whole world that this
    company will intentionally turn your/their $3000 massage chair in
    your living room into a gigantic white elephant!

    Agreed. But doing so here on s.e.r means all of a few tens to few
    hundred individuals see it, and it has no impact at all on $3000 chair
    sales.

    People should be warned off from ever having any dealings with such a company.

    Also agreed, but to do so you'll need to reach those others who don't
    even consider repair as an option and instruct their personal assistant
    to buy another when the current one fails.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Bertrand Sindri on Mon Jan 8 10:21:52 2024
    On 2024-01-08 05:37, Bertrand Sindri wrote:
    Amandaa Ripanykhazov <licensedtoquill@gmail.com> wrote:
    Have to keep the new product sales treadmill running, and we can't
    let repair of old models result in lost sales of new ones. Or so
    the corporate doublethink goes.

    But who in their right mind would dream of buying a new three
    thousand dollar item from a company which would not only not support
    their products, but which would so infuriate their customers by
    telling them to get lost when they even dare to ask for a circuit
    diagram??

    Ah, but see, there's where you are indicating you are not the typical customer.

    For a $3000 massage chair, the typical customer (and 99% of all the customers) will do one of two things when their $3000 chair fails.

    One, if the chair is in warranty, they will instruct their personal
    assistant to file a warranty claim.

    Two, if the chair is out of warranty, they will instruct their personal assistant to purchase a new chair and dispose of the failed one.

    And the corporate doublethinkers know this, and are banking on this
    behavior from 99% of their customers.

    You fall into that remaining 1%, and they have no issue with telling
    you to go pound sand, because you are not enough revenue to matter, nor
    will you likely have sufficient influence to impact the sales treadmill
    for the 99% remainder.

    Not with a chair that costs 3000€, no, we don't.

    I can replace instantly an out of warranty gadget of about 300€. I
    actually take a TV set to the repair shop. If it is 10 years old,
    probably not.


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    Cheers, Carlos.

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