• batteries leaked.

    From micky@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 7 19:45:43 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
    batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to micky on Mon Aug 7 19:56:41 2023
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    On 8/7/2023 4:45 PM, micky wrote:
    I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

    Only if you ignore the batteries until they leak.

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  • From Jeroni Paul@21:1/5 to micky on Tue Aug 8 02:56:12 2023
    micky wrote:
    I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

    Yes, very possible, some batteries leak even if still good. I have fixed many things affected by leaks, usually if not left long enough all it needs is cleaning. Also the leak can travel upwards against gravity, because the battery is at the bottom does
    not stop it to reach the electronics.

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  • From Greta Thongturd@21:1/5 to micky on Tue Aug 8 09:52:18 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    micky wrote:
    I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.


    How dare you! Disposable batteries cause climate change. C'mon man!
    A true liberal democrat would use rechargeables, preferably made from materials mined with child labor.

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  • From steve1001908@outlook.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 8 15:08:57 2023
    On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 19:45:43 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
    wrote:

    I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its >batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

    Most TV remotes have power on all the time regardless of the
    batteries. Rechargeable batteries don't last for ever. I've never
    found a type of battery that does not leak after a few years.

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to micky on Tue Aug 8 08:03:37 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 2023/08/07 4:45 p.m., micky wrote:
    I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

    Remove dead batteries and carefully scrub the battery compartment and
    wiring with a 50:50 mixture of white vinegar and water. Don't let this
    get to the button pads!
    Best if you can take the control apart - usually they snap together so
    pry apart with a very thin blade. Or they are held together with Philips screw(s).

    Good luck! You may well need a new remote though.

    Change batteries once a year on your birthday - you'd possibly be
    surprised how many disposible battery devices you have roaming around
    your home.

    John :-#)#
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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to John Robertson on Tue Aug 8 08:34:31 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 8/8/2023 8:03 AM, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2023/08/07 4:45 p.m., micky wrote:
    I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
    batteries have leaked.   I didn't think that was possible.

    Remove dead batteries and carefully scrub the battery compartment and
    wiring with a 50:50 mixture of white vinegar and water. Don't let this
    get to the button pads!
    Best if you can take the control apart - usually they snap together so
    pry apart with a very thin blade. Or they are held together with Philips screw(s).

    Good luck! You may well need a new remote though.

    Change batteries once a year on your birthday - you'd possibly be
    surprised how many disposible battery devices you have roaming around
    your home.


    I have never had anything damaged by NiCd or NiMh battery leakage.

    Has anyone else?

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to All on Tue Aug 8 22:40:53 2023
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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to John Robertson on Sat Aug 12 14:17:09 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 8/8/23 8:03 AM, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2023/08/07 4:45 p.m., micky wrote:
    I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
    batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

    Remove dead batteries and carefully scrub the battery compartment and
    wiring with a 50:50 mixture of white vinegar and water. Don't let this
    get to the button pads!
    Best if you can take the control apart - usually they snap together so
    pry apart with a very thin blade. Or they are held together with Philips screw(s).

    Good luck! You may well need a new remote though.

    Change batteries once a year on your birthday - you'd possibly be
    surprised how many disposible battery devices you have roaming around
    your home.

    I've had Kirkland, Duracell and Maxell batteries leak IN THEIR ORIGINAL CONTAINERS as well as in rarely-used equipment years under their printed expiration dates. I returned the Duracells and Kirklands and bought Energizers -- which claim to replace any equipment damaged by Energizer leakage. So far I haven't seen a single one leak.


    --
    Cheers, Bev
    "Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority."
    -- U.S. Supreme Court, McIntyre v Ohio Elections,1995

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to steve1001908@outlook.com on Sun Aug 13 02:20:34 2023
    On 08/08/2023 15:08, steve1001908@outlook.com wrote:
    On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 19:45:43 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
    wrote:

    I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
    batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

    Most TV remotes have power on all the time regardless of the
    batteries. Rechargeable batteries don't last for ever. I've never
    found a type of battery that does not leak after a few years.


    I've yet to have an Energizer Ultimate Lithium leak.
    But maybe I will one day.

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Sun Aug 13 02:24:32 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 12/08/2023 22:17, The Real Bev wrote:
    I've had Kirkland, Duracell and Maxell batteries leak IN THEIR ORIGINAL CONTAINERS as well as in rarely-used equipment years under their printed expiration dates.   I returned the Duracells and Kirklands and bought Energizers -- which claim to replace any equipment damaged by Energizer leakage.  So far I haven't seen a single one leak.

    I believe the Energizer guarantee only applies to Energizer Max, not
    other types, and probably not even Energizer MaxPlus.

    https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guarantee

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Sun Aug 13 02:25:50 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 13/08/2023 02:24, Brian Gregory wrote:
    I believe the Energizer guarantee only applies to Energizer Max, not
    other types, and probably not even Energizer MaxPlus.

    https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guarantee


    Ah ha: <https://energizer.eu/wp-content/uploads/sites/105/2021/02/ENR1209_TermsConditions_V5HIGH.pdf>

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to Bob F on Sun Aug 13 02:17:15 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 08/08/2023 16:34, Bob F wrote:
    I have never had anything damaged by NiCd or NiMh battery leakage.

    Has anyone else?

    Only when accidentally over charged at a fairly high current for much
    too long a time.

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  • From Chuck@21:1/5 to void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.inv on Sun Aug 13 11:53:10 2023
    On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 02:20:34 +0100, Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

    On 08/08/2023 15:08, steve1001908@outlook.com wrote:
    On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 19:45:43 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
    wrote:

    I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
    batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

    Most TV remotes have power on all the time regardless of the
    batteries. Rechargeable batteries don't last for ever. I've never
    found a type of battery that does not leak after a few years.


    I've yet to have an Energizer Ultimate Lithium leak.
    But maybe I will one day.

    Me either, and I've been using a large quantity of them for years.

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  • From The Real Bev@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Sun Aug 13 11:34:31 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 8/12/23 6:24 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
    On 12/08/2023 22:17, The Real Bev wrote:
    I've had Kirkland, Duracell and Maxell batteries leak IN THEIR ORIGINAL
    CONTAINERS as well as in rarely-used equipment years under their printed
    expiration dates.   I returned the Duracells and Kirklands and bought
    Energizers -- which claim to replace any equipment damaged by Energizer
    leakage.  So far I haven't seen a single one leak.

    I believe the Energizer guarantee only applies to Energizer Max, not
    other types, and probably not even Energizer MaxPlus.

    The Energizer Max batteries are the common ones available at Walmart and
    Sam's, equivalent to the Duracells you get at Costco. Good enough. 10
    years. Corsair power supplies give a 10-year warranty. -- which we just
    took advantage of after under 2 years. I wonder what else. Samsung $1K
    stove had a 1-year warranty. Needed at 8-10 months. I don't care what
    anyone says about Samsung's quality, if it only lasts a year it's worthless.

    https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guarantee

    https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/battery-leakage

    Energizer MAX
    Energizer® EcoAdvanced® AA/AAA Alkaline
    Energizer® hearing aid batteries
    Energizer Recharge® Power Plus and Energizer Recharge® Universal
    AA/AAA batteries for up to one year after full discharge
    Energizer® Ultimate Lithium™ Batteries (call for details)

    It's nice when a company is proud of what it makes.

    I bought a charger and set of Duracells for my Nikon digital camera in
    1999 or so. They stopped holding a charge, so Duracell sent me a gift
    cert for a new set. Wash, rinse, repeat. I ended up with a set of
    precharged Duracells (Eneloop-type) which were no better than the
    others. None of the rechargeables worked well in my Canon 720IS. I
    really want to use rechargeables, but they don't work worth shit,
    especially in things not used regularly.

    --
    Cheers, Bev
    What if there were no hypothetical questions?

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  • From Bob F@21:1/5 to The Real Bev on Sun Aug 13 13:02:52 2023
    XPost: alt.home.repair

    On 8/13/2023 11:34 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
    On 8/12/23 6:24 PM, Brian Gregory wrote:
    On 12/08/2023 22:17, The Real Bev wrote:
    I've had Kirkland, Duracell and Maxell batteries leak IN THEIR
    ORIGINAL CONTAINERS as well as in rarely-used equipment years under
    their printed expiration dates.   I returned the Duracells and
    Kirklands and bought Energizers -- which claim to replace any
    equipment damaged by Energizer leakage.  So far I haven't seen a
    single one leak.

    I believe the Energizer guarantee only applies to Energizer Max, not
    other types, and probably not even Energizer MaxPlus.

    The Energizer Max batteries are the common ones available at Walmart and Sam's, equivalent to the Duracells you get at Costco.  Good enough.  10 years.  Corsair power supplies give a 10-year warranty. -- which we just took advantage of after under 2 years.  I wonder what else.  Samsung $1K stove had a 1-year warranty.  Needed at 8-10 months.  I don't care what anyone says about Samsung's quality, if it only lasts a year it's
    worthless.

    https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/no-leaks-guarantee

    https://www.energizer.com/about-batteries/battery-leakage

    Energizer MAX
    Energizer® EcoAdvanced® AA/AAA Alkaline
    Energizer® hearing aid batteries
    Energizer Recharge® Power Plus and Energizer Recharge® Universal
           AA/AAA batteries for up to one year after full discharge Energizer® Ultimate Lithium™ Batteries (call for details)

    It's nice when a company is proud of what it makes.

    I bought a charger and set of Duracells for my Nikon digital camera in
    1999 or so.  They stopped holding a charge, so Duracell sent me a gift
    cert for a new set.  Wash, rinse, repeat.  I ended up with a set of precharged Duracells (Eneloop-type) which were no better than the
    others.  None of the rechargeables worked well in my Canon 720IS.  I
    really want to use rechargeables, but they don't work worth shit,
    especially in things not used regularly.


    I think it is often a matter of devices not designed properly for NiCd
    and NiMh batteries lower voltage. Designed for alkaline 1.5V batteries,
    they think the battery is dead with lower voltage rechargeables that
    provide most of their power just above 1.2V.

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  • From steve1001908@outlook.com@21:1/5 to void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.inv on Mon Aug 14 13:02:29 2023
    On Sun, 13 Aug 2023 02:20:34 +0100, Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote:

    On 08/08/2023 15:08, steve1001908@outlook.com wrote:
    On Mon, 07 Aug 2023 19:45:43 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
    wrote:

    I have a tv remote that was working up until 3 or 4 days ago, and its
    batteries have leaked. I didn't think that was possible.

    Most TV remotes have power on all the time regardless of the
    batteries. Rechargeable batteries don't last for ever. I've never
    found a type of battery that does not leak after a few years.


    I've yet to have an Energizer Ultimate Lithium leak.
    But maybe I will one day.

    I have not used them. I will try one the next time I need a new
    rechargeable in either of my TV remotes.

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  • From Jeroni Paul@21:1/5 to steve1...@outlook.com on Mon Aug 14 05:39:25 2023
    steve1...@outlook.com wrote:
    I have not used them. I will try one the next time I need a new
    rechargeable in either of my TV remotes.

    For low power devices like clocks and remotes, rechargeables do not work well (NiCd and NiMH). They do not last as long and when the device stops working they have been discharged for so long that their internal chemistry is damaged and go high
    resistance. Due to that some smart charges may refuse to charge them, sometimes they can be recovered with some charge-discharge cycles but will not be like new. Rechargeables are much better for high power devices that will cycle them frequently.

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  • From steve1001908@outlook.com@21:1/5 to JERONI.PAUL@terra.es on Mon Aug 14 14:31:08 2023
    On Mon, 14 Aug 2023 05:39:25 -0700 (PDT), Jeroni Paul
    <JERONI.PAUL@terra.es> wrote:

    steve1...@outlook.com wrote:
    I have not used them. I will try one the next time I need a new
    rechargeable in either of my TV remotes.

    For low power devices like clocks and remotes, rechargeables do not work well (NiCd and NiMH). They do not last as long and when the device stops working they have been discharged for so long that their internal chemistry is damaged and go high
    resistance. Due to that some smart charges may refuse to charge them, sometimes they can be recovered with some charge-discharge cycles but will not be like new. Rechargeables are much better for high power devices that will cycle them frequently.

    That's good advice. I'll change the batteries in my remotes. I'm sure
    they were supplied with rechargeable but perhaps not!

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