DVD can't be read, what to do?
Toyota Solara with Navigation, which means map DVD. Two or 3 years ago, occasionally I'd get an error message when car first started so radio
first tries to read the map. I would either stop and start the car, or
later I realized I could eject the DVD and reinsert it and it always
worked the 2nd time. (There is a separate CD drive for playing music.)
Bought a DVD cleaning DVD, which is a disk with a brush! Used 2 or 3
times. Didn't help.
Changed from the 2005 edition of the map, that came with the car when
new, to the 2008 edition, the last year they made one. Didn't help.
Both map DVDs look pristine. No fingerprints, not even old ones that
have been wiped away.
In the last month, problem's gotten more frequent, but still worked the
2nd time every time. Yesterday, didn't work until the 3rd time. And
today, right after I bought tires for a car trip tomorrow, wouldn't work right at all.
I restarted the map, and the map restarted itself 2 or 3 times** for
each time I restarted, and never completely displayed the map, and
always insufficent for moving my location while I drive***.
A couple strange things, never happened before today: 1) Start of the
day, changing stations, which is usually instantaneous, took 5 or 10
seconds every time. Changing volume, for which there is a knob
(although it's not a direct rheostat control) also took 5 or 10 seconds. Changing from FM band 1 to 2 (6 memories each) also took 5 or 10
seconds. Saving presets took 5 or 10 seconds. This delay phenomenon
never happened before and I don't see how it's related to not reading
the map DVD, but otoh, it's not a coincidence, is it? (Once the radio
was on a station, the radio worked fine.)
2) Sometimes**** much of the map showed, but a quadrilateral
to the left of center, using about 1/5th of the screen, was dark and
blank. But driving didn't move the map. ****Or maybe all the time. Sun
was very bright.
How do I fix this?
Yeah, I've got one that I bought many years ago for $89 at Sam's Club.
If you want navigation, buy a Garmin. Cheaper than any service call
for repairing the DVD unit.
It has lifetime free quarterly downloadable updates from Garmin for
maps, points of interest and operating software.
OTOH, the Nav in my Toyota Avalon Limited runs off a mini SD card and
there hasn't had been an update available for years. The dealer wanted
$170 to install the one released about two years after I bought the car.
But slick talker that I am, I convinced them that the sales deal
included one free update.
In-car Nav, like SiriusXM satellite radio, is on the down-slope because
so many folks now buy unlimited cellular data plans and they just stream directions and music from their phone through the car's 17-speaker audio system.
On 7/14/23 2:38 PM, Ed P wrote:
On 7/14/2023 2:30 PM, micky wrote:Yeah, I've got one that I bought many years ago for $89 at Sam's Club.
DVD can't be read, what to do?
Toyota Solara with Navigation, which means map DVD. Two or 3 years ago, >>> occasionally I'd get an error message when car first started so radio
first tries to read the map. I would either stop and start the car, or >>> later I realized I could eject the DVD and reinsert it and it always
worked the 2nd time. (There is a separate CD drive for playing music.) >>>
Bought a DVD cleaning DVD, which is a disk with a brush! Used 2 or 3
times. Didn't help.
Changed from the 2005 edition of the map, that came with the car when
new, to the 2008 edition, the last year they made one. Didn't help.
Both map DVDs look pristine. No fingerprints, not even old ones that
have been wiped away.
In the last month, problem's gotten more frequent, but still worked the
2nd time every time. Yesterday, didn't work until the 3rd time. And
today, right after I bought tires for a car trip tomorrow, wouldn't work >>> right at all.
I restarted the map, and the map restarted itself 2 or 3 times** for
each time I restarted, and never completely displayed the map, and
always insufficent for moving my location while I drive***.
A couple strange things, never happened before today: 1) Start of the
day, changing stations, which is usually instantaneous, took 5 or 10
seconds every time. Changing volume, for which there is a knob
(although it's not a direct rheostat control) also took 5 or 10 seconds. >>> Changing from FM band 1 to 2 (6 memories each) also took 5 or 10
seconds. Saving presets took 5 or 10 seconds. This delay phenomenon
never happened before and I don't see how it's related to not reading
the map DVD, but otoh, it's not a coincidence, is it? (Once the radio >>> was on a station, the radio worked fine.)
2) Sometimes**** much of the map showed, but a quadrilateral
to the left of center, using about 1/5th of the screen, was dark and
blank. But driving didn't move the map. ****Or maybe all the time. Sun >>> was very bright.
How do I fix this?
If you want navigation, buy a Garmin. Cheaper than any service call
for repairing the DVD unit.
It has lifetime free quarterly downloadable updates from Garmin for
maps, points of interest and operating software.
OTOH, the Nav in my Toyota Avalon Limited runs off a mini SD card and
there hasn't had been an update available for years. The dealer wanted
$170 to install the one released about two years after I bought the car.
But slick talker that I am, I convinced them that the sales deal
included one free update.
In-car Nav, like SiriusXM satellite radio, is on the down-slope because
so many folks now buy unlimited cellular data plans and they just stream directions and music from their phone through the car's 17-speaker audio system.
On 7/14/2023 2:30 PM, micky wrote:
DVD can't be read, what to do?
Toyota Solara with Navigation, which means map DVD. Two or 3 years ago,
occasionally I'd get an error message when car first started so radio
first tries to read the map. I would either stop and start the car, or
later I realized I could eject the DVD and reinsert it and it always
worked the 2nd time. (There is a separate CD drive for playing music.)
Bought a DVD cleaning DVD, which is a disk with a brush! Used 2 or 3
times. Didn't help.
Changed from the 2005 edition of the map, that came with the car when
new, to the 2008 edition, the last year they made one. Didn't help.
Both map DVDs look pristine. No fingerprints, not even old ones that
have been wiped away.
In the last month, problem's gotten more frequent, but still worked the
2nd time every time. Yesterday, didn't work until the 3rd time. And
today, right after I bought tires for a car trip tomorrow, wouldn't work
right at all.
I restarted the map, and the map restarted itself 2 or 3 times** for
each time I restarted, and never completely displayed the map, and
always insufficent for moving my location while I drive***.
A couple strange things, never happened before today: 1) Start of the
day, changing stations, which is usually instantaneous, took 5 or 10
seconds every time. Changing volume, for which there is a knob
(although it's not a direct rheostat control) also took 5 or 10 seconds.
Changing from FM band 1 to 2 (6 memories each) also took 5 or 10
seconds. Saving presets took 5 or 10 seconds. This delay phenomenon
never happened before and I don't see how it's related to not reading
the map DVD, but otoh, it's not a coincidence, is it? (Once the radio
was on a station, the radio worked fine.)
2) Sometimes**** much of the map showed, but a quadrilateral
to the left of center, using about 1/5th of the screen, was dark and
blank. But driving didn't move the map. ****Or maybe all the time. Sun >> was very bright.
How do I fix this?
If you want navigation, buy a Garmin. Cheaper than any service call for repairing the DVD unit.
I've had SiriusXM for the past 12 years. I listen to it in the car and
at home. They always have a deal at renewal time if you call.
Thought of ditching it one day. Went to the store and put on a favorite
FM station. It was commercials all the way. Did some shopping, then
turned it on for the way home. Commercials all the way. Got home and
paid the Sirius bill.
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 16:08:54 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:
I've had SiriusXM for the past 12 years. I listen to it in the car and
at home. They always have a deal at renewal time if you call.
Thought of ditching it one day. Went to the store and put on a favorite
FM station. It was commercials all the way. Did some shopping, then
turned it on for the way home. Commercials all the way. Got home and
paid the Sirius bill.
I just used free trials until they offered me 2 years at $5/month. I'm
hoping they'll have a similar offer when this term ends next year.
On 7/14/23 5:22 PM, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 16:08:54 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:One of my gripes with their ads is the fine print line that says "taxes
I've had SiriusXM for the past 12 years. I listen to it in the car and
at home. They always have a deal at renewal time if you call.
Thought of ditching it one day. Went to the store and put on a favorite >>> FM station. It was commercials all the way. Did some shopping, then
turned it on for the way home. Commercials all the way. Got home and
paid the Sirius bill.
I just used free trials until they offered me 2 years at $5/month. I'm
hoping they'll have a similar offer when this term ends next year.
and fees additional."
My $4.99 a month plan had $2.28 added for T&F. That's 46% more than the >advertised "price."
A little Truth in Advertising please guys!
On 7/14/23 5:22 PM, Jim Joyce wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 16:08:54 -0400, Ed P <esp@snet.xxx> wrote:One of my gripes with their ads is the fine print line that says "taxes
I've had SiriusXM for the past 12 years. I listen to it in the car and >>> at home. They always have a deal at renewal time if you call.
Thought of ditching it one day. Went to the store and put on a favorite >>> FM station. It was commercials all the way. Did some shopping, then
turned it on for the way home. Commercials all the way. Got home and >>> paid the Sirius bill.
I just used free trials until they offered me 2 years at $5/month. I'm
hoping they'll have a similar offer when this term ends next year.
and fees additional."
My $4.99 a month plan had $2.28 added for T&F. That's 46% more than the advertised "price."
A little Truth in Advertising please guys!
One of my gripes with their ads is the fine print line that says "taxes
and fees additional."
My $4.99 a month plan had $2.28 added for T&F. That's 46% more than the advertised "price."
A little Truth in Advertising please guys!
On 7/14/2023 2:30 PM, micky wrote:
DVD can't be read, what to do?
Toyota Solara with Navigation, which means map DVD. Two or 3 years ago,
occasionally I'd get an error message when car first started so radio
first tries to read the map. I would either stop and start the car, or
later I realized I could eject the DVD and reinsert it and it always
worked the 2nd time. (There is a separate CD drive for playing music.)
Bought a DVD cleaning DVD, which is a disk with a brush! Used 2 or 3
times. Didn't help.
Changed from the 2005 edition of the map, that came with the car when
new, to the 2008 edition, the last year they made one. Didn't help.
Both map DVDs look pristine. No fingerprints, not even old ones that
have been wiped away.
In the last month, problem's gotten more frequent, but still worked the
2nd time every time. Yesterday, didn't work until the 3rd time. And
today, right after I bought tires for a car trip tomorrow, wouldn't work
right at all.
I restarted the map, and the map restarted itself 2 or 3 times** for
each time I restarted, and never completely displayed the map, and
always insufficent for moving my location while I drive***.
A couple strange things, never happened before today: 1) Start of the
day, changing stations, which is usually instantaneous, took 5 or 10
seconds every time. Changing volume, for which there is a knob
(although it's not a direct rheostat control) also took 5 or 10 seconds.
Changing from FM band 1 to 2 (6 memories each) also took 5 or 10
seconds. Saving presets took 5 or 10 seconds. This delay phenomenon
never happened before and I don't see how it's related to not reading
the map DVD, but otoh, it's not a coincidence, is it? (Once the radio
was on a station, the radio worked fine.)
2) Sometimes**** much of the map showed, but a quadrilateral
to the left of center, using about 1/5th of the screen, was dark and
blank. But driving didn't move the map. ****Or maybe all the time. Sun >> was very bright.
How do I fix this?
If you want navigation, buy a Garmin. Cheaper than any service call for repairing the DVD unit.
On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 09:11:28 -0400, Wade Garrett wrote:
One of my gripes with their ads is the fine print line that says "taxes
and fees additional."
My $4.99 a month plan had $2.28 added for T&F. That's 46% more than the
advertised "price."
A little Truth in Advertising please guys!
I still have a landline through Century. The bill I got today said "Your Federal Universal Service Fund Surcharge rate has changed from 29.00% to 29.20%. I don't know how much more Bidenomics I can stand/
On 7/16/2023 1:43 AM, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 09:11:28 -0400, Wade Garrett wrote:
One of my gripes with their ads is the fine print line that says "taxes
and fees additional."
My $4.99 a month plan had $2.28 added for T&F. That's 46% more than the
advertised "price."
A little Truth in Advertising please guys!
I still have a landline through Century. The bill I got today said "Your
Federal Universal Service Fund Surcharge rate has changed from 29.00% to
29.20%. I don't know how much more Bidenomics I can stand/
Long before Biden
Do I have to pay the federal universal service fee?
The FCC does not require this charge to be passed on, but service
providers are allowed to do so. These charges usually appear as a
percentage of the consumer's phone bill. Companies cannot collect an
amount that exceeds the percentage of their contribution to the USF.
This contribution is known as the Universal Service Fund Fee. It is calculated as a percentage of a company's end-user telecommunications revenues. The rate varies but typically ranges from 15.5% to 33%. FUSF surcharges may be passed through to the final user of the
telecommunications services.
On 7/16/2023 1:43 AM, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 09:11:28 -0400, Wade Garrett wrote:
One of my gripes with their ads is the fine print line that says
"taxes and fees additional."
My $4.99 a month plan had $2.28 added for T&F. That's 46% more than
the advertised "price."
A little Truth in Advertising please guys!
I still have a landline through Century. The bill I got today said
"Your Federal Universal Service Fund Surcharge rate has changed from
29.00% to 29.20%. I don't know how much more Bidenomics I can stand/
Long before Biden
On 7/16/2023 1:43 AM, rbowman wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jul 2023 09:11:28 -0400, Wade Garrett wrote:
One of my gripes with their ads is the fine print line that says "taxes
and fees additional."
My $4.99 a month plan had $2.28 added for T&F. That's 46% more than the
advertised "price."
A little Truth in Advertising please guys!
I still have a landline through Century. The bill I got today said "Your
Federal Universal Service Fund Surcharge rate has changed from 29.00% to
29.20%. I don't know how much more Bidenomics I can stand/
Long before Biden
Do I have to pay the federal universal service fee?
The FCC does not require this charge to be passed on, but service
providers are allowed to do so. These charges usually appear as a
percentage of the consumer's phone bill. Companies cannot collect an
amount that exceeds the percentage of their contribution to the USF.
This contribution is known as the Universal Service Fund Fee. It is >calculated as a percentage of a company's end-user telecommunications >revenues. The rate varies but typically ranges from 15.5% to 33%. FUSF >surcharges may be passed through to the final user of the
telecommunications services.
In alt.home.repair, on Sat, 15 Jul 2023 14:02:53 -0500, Jim Joyce ><none@none.invalid> wrote:Try CDburnerxp. I've had it work where other programs failed.
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 17:31:51 -0400, micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>
wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 14 Jul 2023 14:30:28 -0400, micky >>><NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
DVD can't be read, what to do?
Toyota car radio/map.
I appreciate all the suggestions to my open-ended question. Buying a
new GPS unit is a last resort**. Mostly I'm trying to fix the one I
have in the dashboard.
One poster on the web thinks that having a map DVD in one's car for
years damages the DVD. Do you think that's true? I park outside and
it goes from 10F in the winter to 97 in the summer, but usually under
90. The car is white and the top is tan, but it does get several
degrees hotter in the car than outside. I think I bougbt the DVD new 4 >>>yars ago, even though it was made in 2008.
Maybe I could have made a copy when I got it but it's too late for that >>>now. :-(
Why is it too late? Is the DVD stuck inside the unit somehow? If not,
I just meant that if it was already damaged from years in the car, it's
too late, I guess.
remove it, take it to your computer and attempt to create an image from
it. Keep an eye on the read speed during the operation, but more >>importantly, check the log at the end. If the disc was unreadable, the >>image creation will fail and you'll have your answer, but if the read
speed drops dramatically at one or more places or the log file shows >>repeated attempts to read certain sections, then you know the disc is on >>its last legs. If the image creation completes successfully and the read >>speed stays relatively constant, the disc is fine and the problem is
with the Nav unit.
Didn't even get that far. Imgburn says "Incompatible Medium".
And when I try to look at the DVD files with a file manager, I get
"Insert a disc" and the drive door opens.
So I tried the laptop, and it said and did the same thing.
Both win10, fully updated.
Is there any point to looking for different software, that maybe can
copy what imgburn won't copy? Or I just can't copy it?
On 7/14/2023 2:30 PM, micky wrote:
DVD can't be read, what to do?
Toyota Solara with Navigation, which means map DVD. Two or 3 years ago, occasionally I'd get an error message when car first started so radio
first tries to read the map. I would either stop and start the car, or later I realized I could eject the DVD and reinsert it and it always
worked the 2nd time. (There is a separate CD drive for playing music.)
Bought a DVD cleaning DVD, which is a disk with a brush! Used 2 or 3 times. Didn't help.
Changed from the 2005 edition of the map, that came with the car when
new, to the 2008 edition, the last year they made one. Didn't help.
Both map DVDs look pristine. No fingerprints, not even old ones that
have been wiped away.
In the last month, problem's gotten more frequent, but still worked the
2nd time every time. Yesterday, didn't work until the 3rd time. And
today, right after I bought tires for a car trip tomorrow, wouldn't work right at all.
I restarted the map, and the map restarted itself 2 or 3 times** for
each time I restarted, and never completely displayed the map, and
always insufficent for moving my location while I drive***.
A couple strange things, never happened before today: 1) Start of the
day, changing stations, which is usually instantaneous, took 5 or 10 seconds every time. Changing volume, for which there is a knob
(although it's not a direct rheostat control) also took 5 or 10 seconds. Changing from FM band 1 to 2 (6 memories each) also took 5 or 10
seconds. Saving presets took 5 or 10 seconds. This delay phenomenon
never happened before and I don't see how it's related to not reading
the map DVD, but otoh, it's not a coincidence, is it? (Once the radio
was on a station, the radio worked fine.)
2) Sometimes**** much of the map showed, but a quadrilateral
to the left of center, using about 1/5th of the screen, was dark and
blank. But driving didn't move the map. ****Or maybe all the time. Sun was very bright.
How do I fix this?
If you want navigation, buy a Garmin. Cheaper than any service call for repairing the DVD unit.
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