• Re: CHASE GPR4403 Laboratory Receiver Service manual PLEASE

    From Tony@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 6 21:30:03 2023
    Looks like these threads are years old so this will probably never be read! I designed the receiver. There is no service manual, unless one was done after I left the company. The receiver was calibrated automatically by computer over the rs 232 port
    before the units were shipped. The calibration points were stored in eprom. Depending on the year of manufacture there was a backup battery or 1 farad cap as backup. As the original spec was 10 years receiver life most receivers have now probably died.
    The cal software ran on a BBC micro. Any programming info is long gone.

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to Tony on Thu Jul 6 16:05:42 2023
    On 2023/07/06 2:30 p.m., Tony wrote:
    Looks like these threads are years old so this will probably never be
    read! I designed the receiver. There is no service manual, unless one
    was done after I left the company. The receiver was calibrated
    automatically by computer over the rs 232 port before the units were
    shipped. The calibration points were stored in eprom. Depending on the
    year of manufacture there was a backup battery or 1 farad cap as backup.
    As the original spec was 10 years receiver life most receivers have now probably died. The cal software ran on a BBC micro. Any programming info
    is long gone.


    Talk about planned obsolescence!

    So the receiver calibration might change over time and there is
    absolutely no way to fix this as there is no calibration program left
    anywhere. I/m assuming if anything was changed in the receiver that it
    would then need calibration...

    And people wonder why I like fixing electronic toys prior to the 2000s!
    Stuff after 2000 is not nearly as fixable - too many one-off or customer
    parts.

    Then there is the question of who owns the device they bought. As an
    example one brand of pinball games shuts the game down if it is operated
    on 50 or 60 Hertz and that is different than the line frequency
    (60/50Hz) that the game was originally set up for.

    John :-#(#
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  • From Three Jeeps@21:1/5 to John Robertson on Fri Jul 7 10:11:39 2023
    On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 7:05:47 PM UTC-4, John Robertson wrote:
    On 2023/07/06 2:30 p.m., Tony wrote:
    Looks like these threads are years old so this will probably never be read! I designed the receiver. There is no service manual, unless one
    was done after I left the company. The receiver was calibrated automatically by computer over the rs 232 port before the units were shipped. The calibration points were stored in eprom. Depending on the year of manufacture there was a backup battery or 1 farad cap as backup. As the original spec was 10 years receiver life most receivers have now probably died. The cal software ran on a BBC micro. Any programming info is long gone.

    Talk about planned obsolescence!

    So the receiver calibration might change over time and there is
    absolutely no way to fix this as there is no calibration program left anywhere. I/m assuming if anything was changed in the receiver that it
    would then need calibration...

    And people wonder why I like fixing electronic toys prior to the 2000s! Stuff after 2000 is not nearly as fixable - too many one-off or customer parts.

    Then there is the question of who owns the device they bought. As an
    example one brand of pinball games shuts the game down if it is operated
    on 50 or 60 Hertz and that is different than the line frequency
    (60/50Hz) that the game was originally set up for.

    John :-#(#
    --
    (Please post followups or tech inquiries to the USENET newsgroup)
    John's Jukes Ltd.
    #7 - 3979 Marine Way, Burnaby, BC, Canada V5J 5E3
    (604)872-5757 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
    www.flippers.com
    "Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."

    This makes me wonder if this end state of calibration data vanishing after xx years was a design requirement (specified by who?) or a byproduct of the design approach taken (to increase machine flexibility? reduce parts count? etc.).

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